Brahmastra Publish time 2015-6-8 14:01:13

PVE Buff Stacking: Partners and Zanpakutos

Edited by Brahmastra at 2015-12-18 16:34

Update 4-7-2015:
Sogyo + 8th skill deals the highest damage again, don't bother reading everything explained below.

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Since there is a lot of confusion about buff stacking and the random damage increase since the Evolution update I figured I'd make a thread and post screenshots.
This thread is mainly about the damage difference between Sogyo, Zabimaru and Zangetsu combined with Dark Rukia, Inoue and Sexy Yoruichi.

Warning. These results are based on a fairly balanced team. If you have level 12 wisdom stones and level 5 strength stones chances are high you will get different results, exaggerated I know.

The skill you want to use depends on you, I have always used the 8th skill (100% combo)
Tested on "Quicksand Controller" in the "New Karakura Town" map. I hope the screenshots are understandable.
Personal backup:
- Urahara had no belt on.
- Tested with VG gear on main.
Normal Zanpakuto Damage: Urahara + Main.
http://i.imgur.com/QiIWAN0.jpg
Zabimaru highest support damage.
Zangetsu highest assaulter damage.
Zangetsu best overall damage.

Stacked Support Zanpakuto Damage: Urahara + Sexy Yoruichi.
http://i.imgur.com/JI1MHkN.jpg
Zabimaru gives highest damage for support.

Stacked Assaulter Zanpakuto Damage: Dark Rukia + Main.
http://i.imgur.com/GqnJIQd.jpg
Zangetsu gives highest damage for assaulters.

Combined: Urahara + Sexy Yoruichi & Dark Rukia + Main.
I calculated this one by adding Urahara's + Sexy Yoruichi's damage with Dark Rukia and my Mains damage.
Zangetsu is the best one with Zabimaru following very close. Sogyo on the other hand is not worth buying anymore and I guess the Sogyo + Dark Rukia days are over. I'm not sure if this change was intended or how much longer it will stay if it wasn't.
http://i.imgur.com/i0Tp98t.jpg


Difference with and without buff stacking.
Shows the difference with or without Dark Rukia, Inoue and Sexy Yoruichi.
http://i.imgur.com/uTDtsnQ.jpg




The skills: 100% combo rate  vs 15% assaulters attack.
I have to say that the skills are rather weird especially skill #9. The damage on skill #9 seems super broken and the damage randomly goes through the roof, shown on screenshot below.
Right now I'd say skill 9 is better even though I always used skill 8 to get a 100% fury attack on ever turn (combo on Sexy Yoruichi).
http://i.imgur.com/EFKN2VW.jpg

tl;dr: Zangetsu + 9th skill.

iz4n4minok4mi Publish time 2015-6-8 15:10:23

Hmm interesting. I will try it during tomorrow ES. Currently I am using d. rukia + sogyo + 8th skill. Will try to switch for zabimaru + maybe 9th skill and see what happens.

UnKnOwNHoLlOw Publish time 2015-6-8 15:12:30

Thanks mate this helps alot :D

jfcorey Publish time 2015-6-8 15:15:14

why all good things its for vip, i am VIP0 :'(

Brahmastra Publish time 2015-6-8 15:17:18

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-6-8 15:10 static/image/common/back.gif
Hmm interesting. I will try it during tomorrow ES. Currently I am using d. rukia + sogyo + 8th skill ...
I've tried the 9th skill during Ryoka today. My S.Yoruichi her damage increased with ~200k per round, but I think the extra turn on her from the 8 skill still works better for me.

MATTRAT Publish time 2015-6-8 15:25:02

Can u compare the damage total with 8th skill and 9th skill with different partner? i wanna see which is better 8th or 9th

ikunmX Publish time 2015-6-8 15:30:59

How comes my sogyo weaker than zambimaru :'(

dezzed Publish time 2015-6-8 15:49:35

dont use 8th 50% lower than 9th

iz4n4minok4mi Publish time 2015-6-8 15:49:37

You can say thank you to this weird patch xD I dont know it still seems to me as a bug than intended feature but we will see. Now to get zangetsu somewhere relatively cheap.. It is still expensive as f*** 28k in joint task etc.. Can afford 12k gold not more :'(

[email protected] Publish time 2015-6-8 16:11:21

well could you compare sogyo vs zabi using 9th skill?
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