shura ken necessary?
My dilemma is this. I got enough stones to get shura ken. Now I don't know if I should get him since he will replace my tavern kenpachi fully modded. Yeah I know immediate reaction of everybody is shura ken is way way way better than tavern kenpachi but these are my doubts that I have.I use kisuke, shini uruhara main tavern kenpachi and isshin. This is for ES. Now the thing is I don't have cute orihime. I'm not sure if I ever gonna get her since I use zangetsu and her buff overwrites zangetsu's. What I like about kenpachi is that he gives 10% block to assaulters so that really helps a lot. If I get shura kenpachi, I will no longer get that 10% block so I don't know how I'd do with ES. Maybe I die faster, or maybe my damage goes up/down, not sure, since don't know how much damage block gave me. But since it's a fully modded kenpachi, and if I do get shura ken and use him he'll need to be modded first, so I'm not sure.
So, final thoughts, would my damage go up in ES if I use shura ken instead of kenpachi? Is it better to use shura ken than a fully modded kenpachi who gives 10% block to assaulters? (For reference, ES level is 149 quincy, 139 shinigamy and 130 arrancar).
all i know is2 things: block is useless in ES. and growth rate is king in ES Your damage WILL go up against Tavern Ken + 10% Block, even a fully modded one
Block does normal attack damage (so whatever your attack does without skill and crit)
You won't be dying if you're fighting a lvl 149 ES with 0/3/2 formation, so the 10% block isn't necessary
the stats and growth damage is too high for Tav Ken to beat
Also 10% Block rate you shouldn't depend on as it's only 10%, compared to a consistent 350% Damage from Shura Ken which is 100% going to happen, and yes, the 10% may have proc'd quite the bit, but it's not going to change it as much as Shura Ken will
hopefully this answers all yo' questions ^^ :) in case if you didn't know, Shura's skill reduces enemy's break defense by 75%, now try to compare it with adding 10% block to assaulters ... see the difference ?
and even if Kenpachi is fully moded, Shura is loads better than him i run t1 kisuke and rukia with shura and tavern kenpachi with main's 9th skill i do about 27million damage in es and about 1.4billion damage in ryoka with them untill wave 56 for when i trade tavern ken's gear back to my hollow ichigo and ichigo's aid rate helps out alot ;P uwannadonkey replied at 2015-11-27 16:21 static/image/common/back.gif
all i know is2 things: block is useless in ES. and growth rate is king in ES
Umm actually block is very good in ES, as far as I know. Because by blocking, you decrease the damage you take plus you return damage, thus damage would increase because of blocking. Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-11-27 16:23 static/image/common/back.gif
Your damage WILL go up against Tavern Ken + 10% Block, even a fully modded one
Block does normal at ...
It's just that I thought that the 10% block would help perhaps not only to give more damage but also to last longer in battle, because as the ES level goes up 150+, they'd hit harder. thus blocking, even if it's only 10% could make the difference if I live or die. theguyinblack replied at 2015-11-27 16:25 static/image/common/back.gif
in case if you didn't know, Shura's skill reduces enemy's break defense by 75%, now try to compare i ...
I know shura's skill reduces brk defense by 75%, but didn't debuffs not work on ES? I think somebody mentioned before in another thread that ES can't get debuffs. 10% block is like level 7 block stone, and should not outweigh the benefits of a 350% skill rate which happens 100% of the time vs block which happens 10% of the time ryujikun18 replied at 2015-11-27 17:41 static/image/common/back.gif
i run t1 kisuke and rukia with shura and tavern kenpachi with main's 9th skill i do about 27million ...
I normally use vg at the start. I run 1-2-2 in ryoka because well as I see it, it doesn't make much of a difference to do more damage, at least not in the early waves, because you only need so much damage to beat a ryoka. In addition, need to level h.ichigo, because if I leave him be, it gonna be tough to lvl him for his mods.
If I did get shura ken I'd only use him for ES. For ryoka I'd use isshin and main, run a 1-2-2 all throughout the ryoka, that's what I do because it would make no difference running 3-2, except for wave 56 where I stop one hitting. with 3-2 I'd probably onehit up to 58, but since the waves go very fast, I don't bother switching. Plus around wave 61 I need to put vg on.
ES is a different story though, 3-2 all the way to the end.