Aristeaus Publish time 2015-12-8 16:21:32

Ywach Theorycrafting

I am starting to think Ywach might actually be worth his pricetag. Assuming you can get him in another event with mods for points ( Probably Anniversary/Christmas ), that is. If he shows up in Ultimate Charge for 60k, then he is absolutely worth it.
A fully stacked Ywach would be a nightmare. Health regain that is out of this world, great defensive growth rates, Senbon for increased Defense, pretty much impossible to CC, and once he gets ignore Invulnerability, you have to kill him Turn 1 BEFORE he attacks. Putting him to 40%, and then letting him attack, won't be enough as he will just heal out of your kill range. Stack Immune on him for added tankiness. Isn't like he is lacking damage.

You can even run Tavern Unohana with him for her on death mod to help ensure he gets to his attack. He is a absurdly good VG killer, with his damage and heal ability.

I suppose the question would be what type of team would you run Ywach with.

Zanpakuto: Senbonzakura

Ichibei ( Defense and heals )
Ywach ( Stacked )
Main
Tavern Unohana ( Because why not )
Tavern Aizen ( Would be interested to see if his T5 Mod works through Invincibility, since it isn't a attack or debuff ).

Zento-Hazashi Publish time 2015-12-8 16:22:34

TL;DR this

gimme Curls

Yhwach is worth it from the 5th mod itself anyways, there's reasons for these prices on the partners  ^^ :)

Raeace Publish time 2015-12-8 16:25:23

Wouldn't Hikifune do the job of support, then you could just run 3 2 0 or 2 3 0, at that point you dont need a vg, just get max speed Hiki and max damage Yhwach and you are ready to oneshot enemies.

theunknown404 Publish time 2015-12-8 16:44:05

I was told that when he critical fury regens, it is +75. Add in a Shinso Gin, and he will skill every round.

Aristeaus Publish time 2015-12-8 16:44:33

Raeace replied at 2015-12-8 16:25 static/image/common/back.gif
Wouldn't Hikifune do the job of support, then you could just run 3 2 0 or 2 3 0, at that point you d ...

Yeah, I mean you would probably still use Hiki, but having a tough VG with a defensive buff is pretty important for anti-kirio tactics.

sirnibbles Publish time 2015-12-8 18:59:20

theunknown404 replied at 2015-12-8 16:44 static/image/common/back.gif
I was told that when he critical fury regens, it is +75. Add in a Shinso Gin, and he will skill ever ...

it is 75                    

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2015-12-8 19:27:36

It does make some sense, but tbh, I think he'd still lose to a combo of Hikifune, Oetsu and Tenjiro.

Aristeaus Publish time 2015-12-8 19:29:34

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-8 19:27 static/image/common/back.gif
It does make some sense, but tbh, I think he'd still lose to a combo of Hikifune, Oetsu and Tenjiro.

Depends. Does Mutilate land on Ywach? Does Ywach's 5th mod shield clear Mutilate/Chaos/Burns? Does Ywach's 3rd Mod heal before the attack, or after? Lots of questions. :)

noctustheking Publish time 2015-12-8 20:05:00

Aristeaus replied at 2015-12-8 19:29 static/image/common/back.gif
Depends. Does Mutilate land on Ywach? Does Ywach's 5th mod shield clear Mutilate/Chaos/Burns? Does ...

the only problem is making him faster than a T1 kirio if she skills 1st hes gonna lose fury

Aristeaus Publish time 2015-12-8 20:18:55

noctustheking replied at 2015-12-8 20:05 static/image/common/back.gif
the only problem is making him faster than a T1 kirio if she skills 1st hes gonna lose fury

I am not sure that matters. You would have to have 3 supporters faster then him ( which can happen, but against a stacked Ywach it is unlikely ), and since he is faster then every assaulter / VG, he will attack and regain a ton of health. Assaulters/VG aren't likely to do a ton of damage to him since his growth rate is off the charts for strength. So now he is Teed up for Turn 2, all your support skills are wasted, you probably still have your VG, and when he skills the fights over basically.

Between his regain ability, stacked WIS/STR/STA/COUNTER, 3 Immune rate 2 piece sets, and a Tavern Unohana death mod, I don't think the low damage supporters are going to be enough to take him.

Granted, it would take a Tier 7 Modded Ywach, but still.
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