theunknown404 Publish time 2016-1-25 16:15:25

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-1-25 16:08 static/image/common/back.gif
Good to go right?

Almost, almost. X)

Sylencer90 Publish time 2016-1-25 16:22:10

Shadow49999 Publish time 2016-1-25 16:26:52

Sylencer90 replied at 2016-1-25 16:22 static/image/common/back.gif
demon ichi or tsi incoming too

#TSI FOR UBP
#LOL THATD BE SUCH A TROLL BY GOGAMES
#GOGAMES:LETS FUCK WITH THE VIPS AND PUT TSI IN UBP
#GOGAMES:THEN LETS MAKE AN EVEN BETTER CHARACTER AND PUT IT IN THE GAME

Devvoke2 Publish time 2016-1-25 16:53:43

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2016-1-25 16:57:36

theunknown404 replied at 2016-1-25 15:28 static/image/common/back.gif
Wouldn't Senjumaru still go first, though? If it's someone who can survive longer than one shot, K ...

I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 will usually go for just offensive and pay relatively little attention to defensive - especially on supports, so there's no question Katen will just whipe them out.

However, if both teams are fully build in offensive and defensive, a Senju with Katen might not be enough to 1-shot the enemy Hikifune with Tensa.

Another possible outcome would be, that a Senju with Katen goes first, Kills a fully modded Brenji and gets all supports killed by Brenji's on-death attack.


But as mentioned, in the End it does come down to how much damage a Senju does with Katen.

AFAIK, normal crit does 50% more damage than a normal attack (at least that's what I found on the Forums).

Senju's skill has 140% on base...

The Fortification raises crit dmg by 100% on the last level, which can mean a lot but most likely only rises the crit damage to 100% from 50% (which makes only 25% bonus damage)..

Assuming the same worst case for Katen's active skill, crit would do another 80% of the normal damage.

The end Result would be roughly:
Senju normal skill: 140%
Senju crit skill: 210%
Senju + Katen Active crit skill: 290%
Senju + Katen Active + max fortify crit skill: 340%

However, Katen has no dmg rate active, so assuming Senju has a Tensa:
Senju normal skill: 175%
Senju crit skill: 262,5%

What I forgot to put in is the 7% higher damage rate of Katen.

Ofc, there are other unknowns:

You could theoretically not use a +10% speed to all/allys char and use Senju, Hikifune and Tenjiro, who'd make your Hikifune atk before the enemy hikifune. But this bears the risk that the enemy does use a +10% speed to all allys, which would provide exactly 1% more speed bonus with tensa than Katen's passive.



TL;DR:

I'd rate Katen slightly stronger, as it puts A LOT of pressure in terms of equipment, partners etc on those using Tensa.

In turn however, Katen does fall off harder after the initial damage, because he Active lasts only for 1 Turn, which for Senju&Kensei Teams etc. does not at all equal one round.

Anyway... I'm gonna get Katen, because having 2 girls follow me is so much better than a guy... and because I like to have a Zanpakuto that fortifies my partners... since I kinda plan on Sticking with the 0 Division.


PS: They'll add another Zanpakuto for sure, since Yhwach has no fortification yet and he's notably more expensive than Senju etc.

noctustheking Publish time 2016-1-25 17:04:18

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 16:57 static/image/common/back.gif
I guess we wont know until some top-end guys actually test it.

Thing is, the average non-vip-10 w ...

ps: oetsu also doesnt have a fortify zanpaktou lol

I_MIKE_I Publish time 2016-1-25 17:23:36

noctustheking replied at 2016-1-25 17:04 static/image/common/back.gif
ps: oetsu also doesnt have a fortify zanpaktou lol

Yeah, I was rather surprised that they excluded him and added Tenjiro to Katen... even more so since Tenjiro's Evo is still bugged.

noctustheking Publish time 2016-1-25 17:48:55

I_MIKE_I replied at 2016-1-25 17:23 static/image/common/back.gif
Yeah, I was rather surprised that they excluded him and added Tenjiro to Katen... even more so sin ...

next zan prolly minazuki or some shit
or demon tensa zangetsu

Lelouch71 Publish time 2016-1-25 17:58:24

noctustheking replied at 2016-1-25 17:48 static/image/common/back.gif
next zan prolly minazuki or some shit
or demon tensa zangetsu

we still need Ryuujin Jakka,Kinshara,no need for demon tensa zangetsu shit tho...

Lelouch71 Publish time 2016-1-25 17:58:59

Devvoke2 replied at 2016-1-25 16:53 static/image/common/back.gif
kirinji is and always will be a trap partner cause hes good low cost but they limited him with havin ...

umm what's rng? made me curious
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