Edited by iz4n4minok4mi at 2017-4-24 17:13
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-24 11:50 static/image/common/back.gif
the nasty truth about tavern upgrades...
the growth rates and base stats are crap... it just plain ...
Well the base stats arent that different between upgraded ichigo and nozarashi. He doesnt really have high base stats.
But I agree that between these two, noza is better if you put fair amount of work in him. He can be used for pve with his dmg and with some work he can be pretty defensive too + he is deadly with that block if you have high enough power + he increases it on his own.
I am personally gonna switch him soon for ichibe mostly because that fossilize is more trouble than it is worth in my case and as I am not really stacking him really hard (no best stones/hogu/eq or exclusive fragments) and he serves mostly as an annoying wall with hyorin/zangetsu (depending on situation) while rest of my team does most of the work.
If you are gonna put the best stuff + exclusives on vanguard then noza is the way to go especially with hyorin. If not then any other red vanguard is better in pvp except h. ichigo :D
Instead of tousands of words, here.. http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?rid=596174056683866071&aid=58&t=1&lang=en_US. As i said before, Noza lacks defence to be a top-tier VG. And this was second strongest Noza i've ever meet, even Starrk is far more dangerous cuz of AoE.
[email protected] replied at 2017-4-24 17:10 static/image/common/back.gif
prove me wrong or gtfo. i wana see how your noza handle a stacked assulter who will give a fook ab ...
This is how
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=20269721689423130&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US
trojandrew replied at 2017-4-24 17:36 static/image/common/back.gif
This is how
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=20269721689423130&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_U ...
Are you kidding me? Psy def is alright to not get one-shoted, but with that Wis def you gona end-up slaid by first stacked Hiki.
Look at report i posted above. That's how 8m hp & 400k+ def Noza fare against a non-stacked Renji. A real stacked assulter like Kai's CSB Byakua will end it in 2-3 turn.
[email protected] replied at 2017-4-24 18:08 static/image/common/back.gif
Are you kidding me? Psy def is alright to not get one-shoted, but with that Wis def you gona end-u ...
thats a 2.5M stacked hiki that first hits me, so ya im good, and he lost b/c he cant take out backline, i can. thats my noza solo not even my full team, so ya, either show me how good you are or shutup b/c you sound like a nub whos just blowing smoke
[email protected] replied at 2017-4-24 17:31 static/image/common/back.gif
Instead of tousands of words, here.. http://mybankai.game.ggcorp.me/fightreport/?rid=596174056683866 ...
as for lacking def...
I just fail to see that "lack of defense" you are talking about... true someone like Kukaku will be higher... but the fact that Noza is basicly free, and she is basicly $200+ and she is supposed to be the biggest defensive chunk in the game, I fail to see why you would ever compare the two as for defense goes... that's like saying that B Renji hits harder than Ikkaku does... besides, he isn't designed to just tank till the end of time, He is only supposed to tank till he blocks you to death
Edited by [email protected] at 2017-4-24 20:11
MylarHyrule replied at 2017-4-24 19:28 static/image/common/back.gif
as for lacking def...
I never said that he is a complete waste. Im not against Noza as a random VG, im against idea to waste ~35k fragments on him when they can give way more profit to other characters. Stacked Noza is quite one-sided build, you sacriface a loot of potential for a VG that cannot handle good amount of other stacked characters. Sure, he is nightmare for any phrone characters with his block. But any stacked nuker will do the job just as good.
I mentioned Kukkaku cuz TS wrote that he might get her in future.
Ps: by lack of def i mean stars modify/talent.
[email protected] replied at 2017-4-24 19:53 static/image/common/back.gif
I never said that he is a complete waste. Im not against Noza as a random VG, im against idea to w ...
tbh i dont see the use in frags for him either, i have my noza at lvl 40 and i doubt ima raise it higher, gonna save those up for muken aizen :D
yeh go with noza he is a beast when built right here is my noza on the left 1.7m and a proper built noza with hyron from a server freind over 2mil bp
trojandrew replied at 2017-4-24 20:09 static/image/common/back.gif
tbh i dont see the use in frags for him either, i have my noza at lvl 40 and i doubt ima raise it ...
Meh, then stop with that fanboism. I just said that he is not worth stacking cuz you be left with noza + 4 sissies that die from first slightest fart.