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author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-21 16:07:38 Title: Character Tier List.

Edited by SolKnight at 2018-6-23 18:58

This is a list ranking and showing the characters of where they place in the current meta and if they are worth the gold and effort to obtain and build.

Note:These characters are judged overall in comparison to each other so partners that work relitively fine may be much lower on the list,

Rules:
>Characters Stats,Skill and usage will be considered.
>Each Partner will be judged indivisually as well as if there a team player.
>Performance in PVP and PVE will both be considered and PVPE is made up BS for anyone wondering so dont bother bringing it up.
>Characters Price and ease to obtain may Boost a characters rank more.
>If a Partner is the Top of the current tier a + will be added in front of there name meaning they can qualify for a greater rank under right conditons or with certain partners.
>Tavern Partners and Alaince War Exclusive partners will not be considred for this list however all other partners are going into consideration

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SSS+(Meta Defining Character)
Blood War Byakuya

SSS(God Tier Characters)
Hell Verse Ichigo +(SSS+)(With Kokuto and BW Byak)
Muken Aizen +(SSS+)(With BW Byak and/or Sternritter Uryu)

SS(Fantastic characters but just fall short of god tier)
Sternritter Uryu
Shin Daiguren Toshiro
Kugo Ginjo +(SSS)with Askin death mod in effect)
Kokuto + (SSS)With hellverse ichigo)

S(Great Characters)
Sexy Kukkaku
Valkyrie
Hachwath
Bankai Shunsui
Askin

A+(Good Characters)
Bankai Kenpachi
Raijin Yoroichi
Senjumaru Shutara
Noble Isane
Isane Kotetsu

A(Good Characters but have a few flaws that do not allow them to excell)
Yhwach +(S-SS) (With hachwath and Raijin yoro)
Bankai Genryusai +(S)(With Daiguren Toshiro)
Elegant Unohana
Shy Nemu
Bazz B
Hikifune Kirio

B+(Decent and mediocre partners)
Shunko Soi-Fon
Bankai Urehara
Handsome Toshiro
Koga Kuchiki
True Shikai Ichigo
Shinigami Kensei
Ultima Aizen
Ichibe Hiyosobe
Oetsu Namiya
Gentel Byakuya
Suihei Hisagi
Mugetsu
Cute Orihime
Shin Isshin Kurosaki
Kyoka Suigetsu Aizen

B(Good but outclassed partners)
Nozarashi Kenpachi
Bankai Rukia
Sexy Yoroichi
Beserk Renji
White Ichigo
Hakuteiken Byakuya
Shinso Gin
Retsu Kenpachi Unohana
Shingeki Yammamoto Genryusai
Kirinji Tenjiro
Mayuri Kurostsuji
Delicate Yachiru
Demon Ichigo
Bambietta Basterbine
Shura Kenpachi

C(Not worth much)
Ryuken Ishida
Smart Nanao
Glamourous Rangiku
Christmas Ichigo
Shinigami Yoroichi
Shinigami Urehara
Isshin Kurosaki
Tessai Tsukibiyashi
Panthera Grimjow
Reserection Ulquiora
Human Komamura
Zabimaru Renji

D(Worth nothing at all)
Toshiro Hitsugaya
Daiguren Toshiro
Gamuza Nell
Soo Zabimaru Renji
Shinji Hirako
Dark Rukia
Ichigo Kurosaki
Nanao Ise
Rangiku Matsumoto

author: Xallog time: 2018-5-21 16:37:36

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author: Rukongai_News time: 2018-5-21 17:15:11

Oh no!
My eyes, my eyes!
My beautiful eyes!

It's funny, but not seriously) Many characters has wrong rang. Really many.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-5-21 17:50:05

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author: Qforina time: 2018-5-21 18:58:22

Dude can you just explain me why is Cute orihime higher ranked then Noza?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-5-22 00:23:03

TYBW Bya is not that good lol.

author: jackthehorn time: 2018-5-22 00:35:57

Have you even tried to even defeat askin, even a new server player from yesterday can beat a 9mil BP from old servers.
If he goes first that is. And normally they do reach high agility very easily.
BW Byakuya is not that much of a SSS

author: [email protected] time: 2018-5-22 00:39:54

So i can buy hvi and forget about sternritter uryuu... Thats cool

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-5-22 00:58:33

jackthehorn replied at 2018-5-21 22:35
Have you even tried to even defeat askin, even a new server player from yesterday can beat a 9mil BP ...

Askin is not undefeatable. Shield and tankiness is the trick to solve the problem.

author: 15mdr02 time: 2018-5-22 01:02:11

My oh my. I dare say you have made a mistake...I have triple checked for the SSS+++ category in search of the most most overpowered character in the game but alas I cannot find him. I recognize that there are some good characters but I believe it goes without debate that none is more deadly or anywhere near as strong as Ganju. I realize the need for his own divine category but the rest of these lowly characters should never stand above him

author: @ra5h_V time: 2018-5-22 02:03:03

"Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" by judge

author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-22 03:29:12

1:@Rukongai-News If you have any problems with if a char is placed in a certain spot do point that out.

2:@DeEmEN BW Byak is rated above the others for the reason that yes he is that broken add him to your team and will elevate it to a much higher level that you expect, Currently he has not drawbacks and is the fastest partner in game and with him in the formation you can expect to win battles normally unwinnable and pair byak up with any assaulter on this list and he will show results and Do not forget the current meta in it the battle usually ends in one round and the faster team wins, BW byak is currently the fastest partner in game and thanks to his buffs he can make sure your assaulter line will be just as fast as him thanks to the 40% Extra speed and almost every other buff not Crit,Dodge or damage rate, barely anyone of equal power will even end up surviving So in the end with a proper setup with BW byak in it you can make sure the opponent cannot even move and its over I am not denying the fame of other god tier partners but you have to admit that byak DEFINES the current meta.

3:@Jachthehorn Askin is good but not unstoppable thanks to things such as KS,Faster Partners and ofc shield in game and other mechanics present his dot for the most part may not be even setup and he dies as i have mentioned before in the proper up to meta setup expecting to live multiple rounds is a fantasy for most part, He does have a solid avoid injury mod but he NEEDS to survive for that to take effect and his main usage falls to his death mod in the end not cause he is bad but because the overall meta shuts him down and BP in the end is a arbitrary representation there are many ppl who can defeat other 3-4 times there BP it depends on the formation and investment.

4:Read the rules again Team player Utility and Ease to get will give points thats why Cute orihime actually got a spot higher,She is significantly easier that other partners to get and Provides the role of a great buffer in the meta and Noza though good is not a team player and tends to do work on his own which is nice and all but his stats and skill is to outdated to adapt to the entirety of the current meta and he just fails to live up if you compare him with it this was mainly a reason why B Yama got knocked to A tier because his price is the SAME as HVI and stern uryu partners Significantly better on there own while yama needs help of Daiguren tosh to even compete with them.

5:Ganju was so Good i Could not even attempt to put him on the current list without it breaking apart.

6:NANI.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2018-5-22 04:23:29

this is an example when u lack of knowledge and experience

author: rythen time: 2018-5-22 10:34:29

Edited by rythen at 2018-5-22 16:37

everyone that says BWB does not fit in SSS does not own him or no opponent with him.
its just ridiculous how much of buffs,damage and sustainability he brings to the team.

-fastest partner
-200% AOE, 40% Speed and 30% Block Rate buff for assaulter, aswell as a shield and 100 fury (150 if 100% crit fury for assaulters) the 150 fury he gives is equal 37% increased damage.
-decrease enemies break def by 40% when hit
-increases assaulters block rate by 40%
-increases assaulters attack by 50%
-heals all allies by 30% of their total HP when hit

author: theunknown404 time: 2018-5-22 10:38:09

BWB could decimate a team with Minazuki. >Balance

author: jgooner time: 2018-5-22 10:51:56

rythen replied at 2018-5-22 17:34
everyone that says BWB does not fit in SSS does not own him or no opponent with him.
its just ridicu ...

kokuto 3rd modify still remove the speed buff, are the devs going to ignore it, any news

author: rythen time: 2018-5-22 11:00:06

jgooner replied at 2018-5-22 16:51
kokuto 3rd modify still remove the speed buff, are the devs going to ignore it, any news

where does this happend? i just tried it in arena and i was still faster then my opponent with less speed

author: rythen time: 2018-5-22 11:01:07

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_Eu

author: jgooner time: 2018-5-22 11:33:27

Edited by jgooner at 2018-5-22 19:22

rythen replied at 2018-5-22 18:00
where does this happend? i just tried it in arena and i was still faster then my opponent with les ...

EU 95
in arena
in csb
in tot
i usually talked with mages about it, thought you known about it
i keep the battle reports if you want to see them
in PM i send you the 2 battle reports i did together with byakuya help from my server to prove this bug

author: trojandrew time: 2018-5-22 11:42:12

just take the list of partners released, and order them from most recent to oldest. theres your list.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-22 11:50:08

trojandrew replied at 2018-5-22 11:42
just take the list of partners released, and order them from most recent to oldest. theres your list ...

Except partners like human koma and Muken exist who would ruin the ranking.

author: trojandrew time: 2018-5-22 11:56:45

SolKnight replied at 2018-5-22 11:50
Except partners like human koma and Muken exist who would ruin the ranking.

partner combinations and zans also ruin the list. which is why its so hard to make an actual list

author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-22 12:36:23

trojandrew replied at 2018-5-22 11:56
partner combinations and zans also ruin the list. which is why its so hard to make an actual list

That is a valid criticism but since almost all existing zanpaktou are outclassed by RJ and KS and the team built with them even the old combo of Noza + Hyorin does not survive the meta so in an assumption you have to take that into account thats its one of these two who are used specially since one is technically free.

As for Placing of these characters yes combinations do effect a characters effectiveness thats why i tried to put more of an emphasis on the characters role and effectiveness in it such as yhwach,Mugetsu,Koga you can do all the comparisons you like but all three are used as damage dealers for a formation and in this case yhwach will be better and i used + for several characters(Though there are more characters i can use this with namely shutara with a most supports) since that can allow them to be more effective. What this list does try to highlight are partners who rank best and who rank worst at the job there suppose to handle and IF there is someone who can do there job better than them if at all and how would they fair when added into most combinations for example BWByak,HVI and muken were put at the top for a reason add
any of them to a form and you will bring hell for most ppl who face you no questions asked compare to a lower tier partner team made like shutara,Hiki and isane which will be a good combination but gets destroyed by higher ranks this is also a reason why the list gets so broad when you go down as partners get much closer to power and effectiveness with one another.

author: ohmyvenus time: 2018-5-22 12:57:15

rythen replied at 2018-5-22 10:34
everyone that says BWB does not fit in SSS does not own him or no opponent with him.
its just ridicu ...

fyi bwb is trash.. 200% aoe only doing 1 damage to all partners

with some magic strat whollaa super easy, woah rythen so lazy evo

author: Sylencer90 time: 2018-5-22 13:48:23

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author: Lelouch71 time: 2018-5-24 10:15:02

Can i ask why Daiguren Toshiro is that high? I'll start to work for it when i get the chance on my new toon but i want to learn why

author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-24 11:08:55

Edited by SolKnight at 2018-5-24 11:13

Lelouch71 replied at 2018-5-24 10:15
Can i ask why Daiguren Toshiro is that high? I'll start to work for it when i get the chance on my n ...

The reason Daiguren tosh is that high is:
>Second Fastest Partner ingame.
>Freeze is insanely broken if it gets off. If you are smart and use the setup properly you can last 20 rounds vs ES,Ryoka and Void and thats not adding the PVP use and the 40% extra damage boost it gives.
>Silences on skill on top of that as well as fury deduction.
>10% speed decrease halo vs enemy so beneficial to all allies in PVP.
>Adds laceration as a boosted effects so can make the regen on partners who rely on it useless.
>The tankiest support ingame(Not that impressive since he dies easily anyway when hit but nice to have)

>One flaw of the char is that he is not immune to fury deduct so something like kokuto can counter him and make him useless without the right support.

A detailed guide to how freeze works
http://forums.gogames.me/thread-97083-1-1.html
Hope this answers your question.

Edit

o not confuse Daiguren tosh aka SWP Toshiro who is actully garbage and the tosh that is on the SS on here SHIN Daiguren toshiro aka Adult Toshiro who is an event partner worth 40K gold.

author: Lelouch71 time: 2018-5-24 11:12:49

SolKnight replied at 2018-5-24 11:08
The reason Daiguren tosh is that high is:
>Second Fastest Partner ingame.
>Freeze is insanely brok ...

Thanks a lot, i have another question. If i mod Shin Toshiro, will the mods stay on Daiguren?

author: SolKnight time: 2018-5-24 11:16:24

Lelouch71 replied at 2018-5-24 11:12
Thanks a lot, i have another question. If i mod Shin Toshiro, will the mods stay on Daiguren?

Yeah i suspected this.
Sorry bud but you got confused.
Daiguren toshiro aka SWP toshiro is actually garbage.
SHIN Daiguren toshiro aka Adult toshiro who costs 40K Gold is the one on the SS ranking.

Sorry but blame the devs for the shit naming skills.
Edit:Also yeah the mods and all the work on SWP remains same between upgrade you do not lose anything.

author: Lelouch71 time: 2018-5-24 11:18:07

SolKnight replied at 2018-5-24 11:16
Yeah i suspected this.
Sorry bud but you got confused.
Daiguren toshiro aka SWP toshiro is actual ...

ah damn i though it was SWP Toshiro, lol xD Thanks anyways

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2018-6-7 23:00:15

Where does Ginjo fall within this tier ranking? Was thinking of buying him Dragon Boat Festival and then getting and spending another 10k points to recruit BWB. Should I just spend all my gold, skip out on Ginjo, and get BWB and a different character?

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2018-6-8 00:07:05

Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-8 00:50

hashwalth is better imo and bwb is not the best partner in the game, any team with high tankiness negates him.plus if im not mistaken raijin and b uarahara are barely faster than toshiro.but its still all my opinion.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-8 04:49:54

Edited by SolKnight at 2018-6-8 05:03

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-8 00:07
hashwalth is better imo and bwb is not the best partner in the game, any team with high tankiness ne ...

the reason for putting BWB up so high was just how impact full he can be to a team as a whole with or without assaulter those for without part he does need his EX skill to be the most effective doe.
Rn ingame as it stands there is not one single Drawback in using BWB some partner have no fury deduct immunity,lackluster stats compare to other,low skill growth,weak exclusive or normal skill,Bad mods and so on but as he Stands he is very good a fact why people will disagree with BWB placement is by considering him being the only partner in formation which he never will be any case.
Consider it this way Muken alone is a godly assaulter with BWB he can be an unstoppable monster and take for example Tavern byak alone he is frankly shit simple as that but even BWB can raise him to level of partners like Koga and yhwach alone and maybe even further given the scenario.
And unlike how some people this he can actually hit very hard 200% GR skill with what is the best wisdom attack char possible for supports is strong and seeing as the meta is assaulter centric and they have weaker kido def they gain some advantage again as well.
As for Hach yes i agree he is very good and this list does not say he is bad at all the difference between chars from S-SSS+ is situational and just stands with usually a small difference so dont think to much of it.

As for STDs speed issue lets see 30% Agility from talent,10% speed from bonds,10% from mods and he has a 10% speed decrease halo so thats an added for the whole team you get about=60% boost if you want + a better base stat that the fastest B urehara of the competitors(yes he is faster than raijin) who has 30% Agi from talent,30% speed from mods and 12% from so a 72% boost so yeah B urehara can stand to be a bit faster but it depends on how much the base stat effects the value in which case STD can win but boost wise urehara does win.
Hope that answered some questions and if i failed to to explain something or you probably did not understand please do tell me so i can try it in a better way and its alright to have your own opinions thats what makes discussions more interesting.
Edit:One more thing about blood war byak as far as boosting supports the number of things he does is absurd as he gives fury,shield,attack,heal,speed and block and if you know how shield works you will know how broken that shit is.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-8 04:59:58

jimmycricketwin5298 replied at 2018-6-7 23:00
Where does Ginjo fall within this tier ranking? Was thinking of buying him Dragon Boat Festival and ...

Can not say with a 100% Certainty right since he is not out yet so can not give a first hand experience.
But from what i can see from stats and mods he is defo better than valk and kukkaku and the strongest van in game so i say S or SS tier by the and a SS-SSS with Askin Death mod to boost him up.
IF you are going for Dragon boat he is not a bad investment and a good partner overall even BWB is not wasted with a van in formation since Aoe Exists,he gives a monsters number of boosts beside block so yeah a good investment.Do remember to put a good assaulter in formation(Muken/HVI) to get the most out of byak.

author: jimmycricketwin5298 time: 2018-6-8 06:01:44

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-8 03:59
Can not say with a 100% Certainty right since he is not out yet so can not give a first hand exper ...

Yeah I've got a major stacked Muken right now and have been saving stones and other materials for a new partner. BWB alone is gonna make my Muken skyrocket to hell. He's already tanky enough to survive 1 turn of void without any buffs, and enough damage to 1 shot anyone no matter if they have a shield or RJ/Gerard defense buff. I just need BWB to secure it even more, and Ginjo to help with some more void tankiness. But yeah, all I really wanted to know if he was the best VG, and seems like it, so I guess I'mma pick Ginjo and BWB on Dragon Boat

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2018-6-8 22:14:26

Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-8 22:37

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-8 04:49
the reason for putting BWB up so high was just how impact full he can be to a team as a whole with ...

oh i enjoy friendly banter a lot xP
about bwb i agree he gives an insane amount of utility,like no other and thats why i really like him.all around hes the most complete/loaded partner and you could easily just build a whole formation just around him. shields are awesome for the debuffs and cc although everyone runs ks at this point which you can count on more, plus if i remember right and please someone correct me if im wrong(by error in programming and never bothering to change it) shields get all their stats from physical dmg.IF he gave flat def instead of block id say that he d be the best partner in the game by far no questions asked and i would already had him on my team. i get the block-break def combo but i feel flat def is more important and in insane amounts could negate any dmg input which also covers your whole teams weaknesses,makes assaulters tanking kido atks and supps tanking physical more effectively..so in the end he JUST falls short for my preferences and strategy/synergy. yes his skill growth is high(although we have sups with much higher like buzz b or shunsui),so im still not convinced especially in an assaulter meta where all the dmg comes from them.i dont expect the sups to deal that much honestly.if i could run a 3rd sup for my formation id def put him in,and maybe i will depending how the game evolves.
Speed wise i see it like this

author: mayuri1177 time: 2018-6-8 22:55:11

BWB is in a tier of his own(will probably be joined by Ginjo) because you would need multiple partners using skills and passives to bring what just he does. 100 fury, 70% block, 50% attack, 40% speed and gives a shield. He also heals team when he is hit. He also has the best HP bond compared to the other recent supporters, he has 24%, BShunsui 19.2%, Askin 15% and Kokuto 10%.

Block is straight damage reduction and damage returned to attacker. Until I retired Mayuri, the only damage he took was from ignite and mutilate since he blocked everything. If they ever make a partner with immunity to mutilate, and fury restriction with as high of block as Mayuri could reach, he would be immortal. If you add high to decent attack on top of that, he wouldn't need any other partners in formation either.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-9 00:22:19

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-8 22:14
oh i enjoy friendly banter a lot xP
about bwb i agree he gives an insane amount of utility,like n ...

Like Mayuri said Block is actually better than a defense buff since no partner outright has the ability to reach high enough of it to bypass it and that is an 80% damage reduction hence why just removing block from void allowed people to one shot it much more easily than before as so yeah the rest of the argument remains same.

and Raijin is still not faster due to Agility. Having a better agility than speed is an advantage since it gives a superior boost than flat out speed boost an easy way to say it will be like 1% of agility boost is equal to 2% of speed boost and having a slightly better speed stat.

author: faracorn time: 2018-6-9 02:48:22

i would put noza at A grade or even in A+ if you combo him with hyorin. his big flaw is that he is abit squice if you dont build him right other than that if you cant afort the god tier vanguards or you are the type o person who wants to build a wall i think he is good for pvp and pve. other than that i agree in the most of the cases . but you should always consider that power lvl the others play..
if you are around 2mil or 4 mil bp noza is a god

author: flameporo time: 2018-6-9 03:13:34

for me is what can you pay for the game. if you cant afort to spend dosens of dollars for pixels xD and you are a regular vip5 or 6 . ultima and noza are the gods for you

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-9 10:29:56

faracorn replied at 2018-6-9 02:48
i would put noza at A grade or even in A+ if you combo him with hyorin. his big flaw is that he is a ...

The thing is dude.This list was composed of all the characters in the meta where there two things for you to do if you want to survive either be strong and up to date with stats yourself or have some ability to provide amazing support for the team and frankly he fails both fronts and getting 2-4 million BP is no longer difficult or an accurate representation of someones level or power anymore and a stacked noza can help you in PVP early on perhaps and may help in a server with no high VIPS(OR with smart ones) but is a strong server/realm there going to be plenty of people to counter it and he is just to outdated of a partner to keep throwing resources on him.
One more point when considering VIP 5-6 the time has changed a bit back when these guys were godly the rebate was horrible so in a way you wanted 20K gold you had to top up 20K gold directly nothing else so there was not enough now if you are a VIP 5 that is a 5K gold top up and for example you top up during bargain sale that becomes an easy 13-14K gold and even more depending on events and if it is VIP 6 for ultima included in the case you can make plenty more and get more stuff if you do it smartly so getting partners that are better at the VIP level you can even get these guys at is not that hard and even UBP is throwing better partners every other month than these two.

author: faracorn time: 2018-6-9 12:10:03

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-9 10:29
The thing is dude.This list was composed of all the characters in the meta where there two things ...

it's like poro said its depens on how much money do you want to invest in the game. if you want to be vip 4 or vip 5 Noza i think is the one of your choise. if you are a big spender noza is useless vs the new meta and new vanguards . i personaly am vip 5 and i am not planning to top up . For me noza is sure choise as vanguard .

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-9 12:51:04

faracorn replied at 2018-6-9 12:10
it's like poro said its depens on how much money do you want to invest in the game. if you want to ...

Dude it is completely up to you who you want to use and how you use them.
My point is just that this list is composed for the entire meta and all partners in it so i simply cannot put noza higher than he should be in comparison to others.
He is still a good options and if you want to use him he can be good.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-6-9 22:09:31

This list

HAHA

ah 3rd best joke of 2018 is always giving me a laugh

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2018-6-10 22:16:39

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-9 00:22
Like Mayuri said Block is actually better than a defense buff since no partner outright has the ab ...

but! everyone is running ks.having bwb which is the fastest partner, makes you atk first which means all the buffs debuffs he provides are actually gone after his turn is over,considering the opponents ks will come to clear everything out.and in no way bwb is gonna sweep the whole team with his first atk.so a team with high def will survive his atk and even the second supports atk, IF your own fastest support doesnt out speed already the opponents second fastest sup.so with you clearing nothing and the enemy clearing everything on you, you re left with a "naked team" whereas thats not the case for your enemy.and at this point its probably the assaulters turn which are sure to clear the board with your enemy having the upper hand.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-11 04:22:33

Edited by SolKnight at 2018-6-11 04:28

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 22:16
but! everyone is running ks.having bwb which is the fastest partner, makes you atk first which mea ...

This is why you pair BWB with a good assaulter he gives a 40% speed buff to the assault line so with correct investment making them P much as fast as byak. obviously strats have upsides and downsides but KS there is no point in the other buffs since if you are considering people with KS already they defo you have a Assaulter strong enough to Use with BWB to its full potential at that stage and how that guy is setup most teams with equal BP will be dead on turn one in the first place.
Aside from this KS stands a problem for most partners you can think of heck it makes Askin absolutely worthless but i am not going to put it in the lowest tier and with BWBs one bang ability he actually comes the closest to counter it.
Edit:One more thing to consider is if you do not have the ability to kill the oponent after KS execution BWB can causually setup his own buffs onces again without issue on top of that he both heals and reduces B def when his so if you do even one shot him he puts your team in a good enough spot.

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2018-6-11 04:40:51

Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-11 04:59

SolKnight replied at 2018-6-11 04:22
This is why you pair BWB with a good assaulter he gives a 40% speed buff to the assault line so wi ...

there is no way any assaulter (at that stage of the game) will be faster than your own supports.i dont care how many buffs they get,your fastest support should be outspeeding any assaulter easily at all times.which means you re still playing second(since enemy bwb will be faster) having the upper hand from your ks actually doing the work and your opponent's ks being wasted and having major advantage when the assaulters turn come (for both teams) when his are gonna be naked versus yours .cause like i said no way bwb will clear the field round 1 considering vs's against fair even teams.so it all depends on the assaulter's speed and who's gonna atk first but only raw speed stat without the bwb buff or any other buff for that matter since the ks will clear it.and chances are the one that goes second(and his fastest sup will play after bwb) will have some type that buffs or debuffs in some way and his will be sticking around making even small differences in your maybe stronger assaulters completely turned over.which makes this fight a little hp missing naked and/or debuffed team against a little hp missing buffed team and like i said its turn for the assaulters and at that point someones team is going down but will be too late.in which case at that point you d probably be wishing for some flat def auras instead.

thats how i see it and why im not completely convinced over bwb yet.im like 90% there but that 10% kinda keeps me from getting him xP but im not denying he's one of the best if not the best all around partner.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-6-12 07:50:27

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-11 04:40
there is no way any assaulter (at that stage of the game) will be faster than your own supports.i d ...

Dude i am not saying your assaulter will be faster than your support but how you face your opponents will vary as 40% speed buff is not a small amount no matter how you look at it a good assaulter with a proper build will be able to outspeed most forms just enough(Specially if you use someone will B shun for aura) to actually move first and with BWB buffs knock out and the other fact of speed manipulation exists where you can make BWB fast or slow enough to avoid KS just by enough(And if the oponent has KS you can have aswell so anything there support can pull also gets whiped and byak is ready to destroy) and bieng faster allows you to have a greater option range of how much speed you can end up with as if you opponent is far drastically slower that the speed cannot be lowered than you than the assaulter is defo gonna outspeed with buff and essentially wipe out more than half of the enemy team if not just outright KO it entirely.

With KS zan you also have to consider the before mentioned speed manipulation which alot of players do now days and is common and Easy enough for consideration where most of the time BWB can just be made slow enough to be slower than enemy support and faster than rest of the enemy team as it has no threat of a faster assaulter really being an issue also he has block as a passive not just by skill same so more often that not that block on assaulter will activate and hit supports and i dont need to mention that most supports wont survive hits from well built assaulters

author: Baroso time: 2021-5-3 23:59:10

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