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author: savvasthelegend    time: 2018-6-9 04:13:08     Title: Void and Muken damage

I was wondering how much attack does Muken need in the void (after they removed block).
My muken has 1,6M attack, 242% dmg rate and he does 0 dmg to the new void even when buffed by Isane Kotetsu.
He also survives all 20 rounds still dealing 0 dmg.Is that normal?

author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-6-9 04:56:55

it's not normal for muken to not do any damage while he survive all 20 rounds

author: savvasthelegend    time: 2018-6-9 05:01:13

Tanfosh replied at 2018-6-9 04:56
it's not normal for muken to not do any damage while he survive all 20 rounds

I KNOW RIGHT?I was concerned its a bug thats why i made a post about it.
I mean 1,6M att muken with Isane buff does no fcking dmg!


author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 05:05:47

Tanfosh replied at 2018-6-9 04:56
it's not normal for muken to not do any damage while he survive all 20 rounds

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

look!kokuto does 5 dmg, muken does 0.Did only 1 dmg to Momo.

author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-6-9 05:30:41

savvasthelegend replied at 2018-6-9 05:01
I KNOW RIGHT?I was concerned its a bug thats why i made a post about it.
I mean 1,6M att muken wit ...

happens to me from time to time...  it's a bug
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 05:35:38

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-6-9 05:30
happens to me from time to time...  it's a bug

Happened 2 voids in a row and something tell will happen next one as well...
author: MurakumoGai    time: 2018-6-9 05:59:22

dev. fix void by upgrade more Imm Dmg
does have any server still can 1 shot ?
author: Sylencer90    time: 2018-6-9 07:02:50

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author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 07:08:38

MurakumoGai replied at 2018-6-9 05:59
dev. fix void by upgrade more Imm Dmg
does have any server still can 1 shot ?

This doesnt explain the fact that kokuto with less att and dmg rate does more dmg than muken.This is learly a bug.
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-6-9 08:19:44

My muken do all the damage if I let the other attack he have 1.63M physical attack
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 08:28:16

Tanfosh replied at 2018-6-9 08:19
My muken do all the damage if I let the other attack he have 1.63M physical attack

Told you its a bug.Check the br.
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-6-9 08:50:24

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 08:28
Told you its a bug.Check the br.

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He still doing good damage




author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 09:36:40

Tanfosh replied at 2018-6-9 08:50
He still doing good damage

Not mine though.He was doing good dmg until last 2 voids where he did 0.Its a bug.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 13:58:33

MurakumoGai replied at 2018-6-9 03:59
dev. fix void by upgrade more Imm Dmg
does have any server still can 1 shot ?

ummm, I am doing quite a lot of damage still...

After they upgrade, I can no longer 1hko ichigo's void, but still do almost 9bil damage in 1 hit.

Last night void, I did 6.6bil damage in 1 hit.

So... I don't know what you guys are talking about bug... They just got a lot stronger.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 15:22:41

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-9 13:58
ummm, I am doing quite a lot of damage still...

After they upgrade, I can no longer 1hko ichigo's ...

You didnt bother checking the battle report i guess.Just came here to flex.W/e
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 15:38:52

Edited by mayuri1177 at 2018-6-9 15:40
MurakumoGai replied at 2018-6-9 05:59
dev. fix void by upgrade more Imm Dmg
does have any server still can 1 shot ?

Without the enemies blocking, it is much easier to 1-shot Void now.  You can build an all offensive team without the need for adding in defensive supports or healing.

The Void enemies need at least 10 to 100 times the HP they have now to make Void last more than a few seconds.


author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 15:43:12

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 15:38
Without the enemies blocking, it is much easier to 1-shot Void now.  You can build an all offensive ...

They should put a damage cap then but if you reach it you get like 10 times the silver you normally get so there is at least some reward for it.Also remove the option to re-enter using coupons and make the cooldown of entering longer.
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-6-9 16:30:53

As stated, the immune/avoid injury rate was significantly increased on Void enemies in exchange for block rate. It doesn't matter how much attack you have on Muken; if your damage rate is lower than the Void enemies' immune/avoid injury rate, you will do no damage.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 16:33:27

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 13:22
You didnt bother checking the battle report i guess.Just came here to flex.W/e

I did lol, all my partners that can do damage is doing the damage except for my kokuto, that used to do damage but can no longer do any damage for most of the rounds, some rounds still can manage to pull 500k ish.

Also, if people think its easier to 1hko, I don't think so... as my damages are now lowered by a portion.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 16:33:46

theunknown404 replied at 2018-6-9 16:30
As stated, the immune/avoid injury rate was significantly increased on Void enemies in exchange for  ...

How do you  explain the fact theen that kokuto deals 5 dmg with 1M att and lower dmg ratee than muken and muken does none?Its in the  battle report above.Also  if its not a bug, how much dmg rate then you need to deal any dmg?I feel lilke these things should be shown in void stats annyway...
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 16:39:15

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-6-9 14:43
XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 14:33
How do you  explain the fact theen that kokuto deals 5 dmg with 1M att and lower dmg ratee than mu ...

I also believe that Momo has kido def not physical def, rest of them has all physical def, that's why your muken do almost 0 damage? (Not sure)
Also, yeah, maybe your Muken become way too weak to attack now? lol.

author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 16:43:59

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-9 16:33
I did lol, all my partners that can do damage is doing the damage except for my kokuto, that used  ...

My alt that used to get hits of 20-30m can now get 100-180m hits.  My alt's Muken used to get blocked to death after attacking 1 or 2 times, now he can attack more and do more damage per attack.

There is someone in my Void that used to get a few billion before that can now 1-shot even the Yhwach void who didn't even do 10% before.  I haven't gone to an all offense team yet, since I don't like ending Void so soon.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 16:52:01

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 14:43
My alt that used to get hits of 20-30m can now get 100-180m hits.  My alt's Muken used to get bloc ...

yeah cuz your muken didn't get block to death, that's why it can stay longer and do more damage... ok I get it... But their normal skills should be enough to kill your Muken if their block can kill him. But that's not what I meant...

But for me, what I am trying to say is, a person like me who can 1 shot (ichigo)void by myself, can no longer do it because of the increased immune/avoid injury stats... the real one shot, not everyone contributed one shot.
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 16:59:07

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-9 16:52
yeah cuz your muken didn't get block to death, that's why it can stay longer and do more damage... ...

I said my alt's Muken is doing much more damage per attack on the enemies also.  He still only gets to attack about 3 times now instead of 1 or 2.  Plus he only has 1.4m attack.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 17:04:27

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 16:59
I said my alt's Muken is doing much more damage per attack on the enemies also.  He still only get ...

Care to tell plz what your alts Muken dmg rate is?Cause all i hear is mine has low dmg rate.
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 17:18:12

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 17:04
Care to tell plz what your alts Muken dmg rate is?Cause all i hear is mine has low dmg rate.

Here is my alt's Muken

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author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 17:23:07

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 17:18
Here is my alt's Muken

Here is mine.
So i need like a bit more dmg rate to do dmg?
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 17:27:08

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 14:59
I said my alt's Muken is doing much more damage per attack on the enemies also.  He still only get ...

per attack? You mean everytime it skills or everytime the total damage pop-up?
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-6-9 17:34:00

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 17:23
Here is mine.
So i need like a bit more dmg rate to do dmg?

This is my Muken on 1 of my acc's , He only survives 2 rounds ( pic sbelow shows both times he did damage) ...on last void , just 1 battle it did 16.3 mil damage.

Onl 2 other acc's my muken are almost as strong as this one, but they do no damage...

[attach]22269[/attach]
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author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 17:45:09

RiadDahoe replied at 2018-6-9 17:34
This is my Muken on 1 of my acc's , He only survives 2 rounds ( pic sbelow shows both times he did ...

What is your mukens dmg rate if i may ask?
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-6-9 18:03:40

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 17:45
What is your mukens dmg rate if i may ask?

you may ask 4 sure... but where do i check it...jeez... i'm nooby as F ... he has 12.50 extra from evolution and 6.75% from bond with ywach .. dont know wher to check the total damage rate...
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 18:13:47

Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-9 18:14
RiadDahoe replied at 2018-6-9 18:03
you may ask 4 sure... but where do i check it...jeez... i'm nooby as F ... he has 12.50 extra from ...

Its ok my dude.Just click the "detail" arrow next to muken's battle power so you can see all stats like they show in mine.Its the "modify" one.Mine says modify 241% for example.Its his dmg rate
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 18:34:50

Edited by mayuri1177 at 2018-6-9 18:36

Per hit.  I didn't save the BR of the highest 2 hits yesterday.  This was the last hit my alt's Muken did.  My team killed Yachiru in this fight.

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author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 18:48:27

Raised my muken's dmg rate to 273%.If Mayuri's Muken can do dmg with a lower att and dmg rate then its clearly a bug.Btw thank you all fot the feedback.Appreciate it a lot.
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 18:55:26

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 18:48
Raised my muken's dmg rate to 273%.If Mayuri's Muken can do dmg with a lower att and dmg rate then i ...

It's not really a bug.  My team makes Muken hit harder.  Benny gives 20% atk and reduces enemy defense by 50% and Nemu gives 50% dmg rate with halo and skill combined.  The same setup was doing much less damage than before when the enemies still blocked.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 18:58:21

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 18:55
It's not really a bug.  My team makes Muken hit harder.  Benny gives 20% atk and reduces enemy def ...

Well i dont know if my dmg rate would be high enough right now but i use isane for att boost and muken can last all 20 rounds.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 19:08:26

Well, I think we all have different void here lol. My damage got reduced.

Meh, who gives a shit really... as long as I can do damage, I am happy lol! It only motivates me to get stronger and stronger.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 19:11:05

I dont care if it got harder.I care about bugs though.If its not a bug its all good.Ill make some adjustments and see for myself in 3 days.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-9 19:15:51

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 17:11
I dont care if it got harder.I care about bugs though.If its not a bug its all good.Ill make some ad ...

Try to increase the damage rate like how unknown404 told you about how this void got improved.
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 19:16:38

Edited by mayuri1177 at 2018-6-9 19:26
DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-9 19:08
Well, I think we all have different void here lol. My damage got reduced.

Meh, who gives a shit rea ...

I think the key to getting higher damage is just increasing damage rate(Shy Nemu or Noble Isane) to make up for the higher immunity rate.  After that evens out, then the damage reduction the Void enemies lost from blocking will make your damage dealt be much higher than before.
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-6-9 19:36:48

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 18:13
Its ok my dude.Just click the "detail" arrow next to muken's battle power so you can see all stats  ...

ah ok , mine shows 235.2 % ..... lower than yours...but i do have hikifune in my setup she gives 50% attack to supps and asSaulters..... , on the other hand i also have hiki on my other acc's with muken , but no luck there..
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-6-9 19:36:51

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-9 19:11
I dont care if it got harder.I care about bugs though.If its not a bug its all good.Ill make some ad ...

The part where Muken does no damage is a visual bug, I would assume. It's probably caused by the fact Muken's skill damage is already bugged visually. I still see some 1's, so that just means his damage rate is too low.
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-6-9 19:44:40

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-6-9 19:16
I think the key to getting higher damage is just increasing damage rate(Shy Nemu or Noble Isane) to ...

What about Noble Isane/Shy Nemu's damage rate buff and Askin's enemy immune rate reduction together?
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-9 20:14:46

theunknown404 replied at 2018-6-9 19:44
What about Noble Isane/Shy Nemu's damage rate buff and Askin's enemy immune rate reduction togethe ...

As long as the damage rate debuff from just A S K I N works, that could also help.  
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-6-9 20:57:31

MurakumoGai replied at 2018-6-9 05:59
dev. fix void by upgrade more Imm Dmg
does have any server still can 1 shot ?

I'm US 161, and with no blocking involved, Berny can still one shot them...

Why can't dev stop screwing up the event and just make it where the damn skill kills you 100% of the time?

It feels like a super easy fix that they will ruin the event over...  every time they touch it, it breaks worse...   skill killing on round 5 will almost definitely fix it until the point where we hit 35M BP or so...   AND it will only affect the very top dogs, which is where the problem is coming from
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-9 21:08:57

Just in general i want to thank you guys,you actually contributed with more help and input than the ones higher up, that i expected help from.so thank you all.i raised my dmg rate  by upgrading 2 equips to soul king from windchaser and keeping the 2-4 format for more atk and less speed.muken is a snail anyways.ill see on next void if this is enough for any dmg to go through.hope that was the case and was going crazy for no reason. appreciate you all.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-10 01:00:24

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-10 01:15
Try to increase the damage rate like how unknown404 told you about how this void got improved.

How to increase DMG rate? Or that modify rate?
Any tips?
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-6-10 02:22:05

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-10 01:00
How to increase DMG rate? Or that modify rate?
Any tips?

Red Hogyoku.
Evolution.
Bond.
Advanced Modification.
Zanpakuto.
Buffs/halos.
2 pieces of the same gear.

Though it's not a really problem of lacking of damage, but hey, if you want to damage void normally, you need at least over 270% DMG.
With that much, not everyone can achieve that amount unless you have a huge attack and there is now a great supporter...

...yes, a supporter which everyone disliked, guess who is it ?

It's Ryuken. Yep him, his EX skill reduces the enemies' block rate and IMM by 99% everyturn, what else can we ask more ?
Ryuken is yellow hurrdurr
SLAP
He is yellow for a reason, don't bring that dead meme again and get him already.

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-10 03:12:56

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-9 23:00
How to increase DMG rate? Or that modify rate?
Any tips?

Noble Isane is quickest answer other than what Bowl of Nutella said.
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-6-10 03:48:35

I have 262.5% dmg rate on my muken and it has no effect on void. I think the problem is somewhere else
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 04:04:54

@ra5h_V replied at 2018-6-10 03:48
I have 262.5% dmg rate on my muken and it has no effect on void. I think the problem is somewhere el ...

If RiadDahoe's Muken has lower dmg rate and still does dmg then the problem might be somewhere else.I mean he has hiki for att boost but i also use isane and his Muken's attack is lower than mine.
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-6-10 04:46:46

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 13:04
If RiadDahoe's Muken has lower dmg rate and still does dmg then the problem might be somewhere els ...

I had this problem before new non-block update, so it is not about def nor block
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 05:02:17

@ra5h_V replied at 2018-6-10 04:46
I had this problem before new non-block update, so it is not about def nor block

Did you manage to do dmg normaly though?
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-10 06:16:41

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-10 09:12
Noble Isane is quickest answer other than what Bowl of Nutella said.

That Bowl And Nutella Just what you ate this morning!!
Still that bowl is hope for vip 0 like me to do any kind of DMG in void

Was doing 640 dmg before that block and still doing 640 after that block removal so kind of grasping what is wrong with my account?
Still you both gave the same advice, get partners which is somewhat on luck who comes in UBP to grab.
Will have to miss this one 2K vit so next to next i guess.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-10 06:17:48

Potdenutella replied at 2018-6-10 08:22
Red Hogyoku.
Evolution.
Bond.

Ola yellow partner to get and put him in formation
cant do that, still trying to get rid of tavern kisuke and D.Ichi from my formation
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2018-6-10 06:20:22

They must have increased the imm rate by a lot because before even with block and just 50% bonus attack from hiki I could do around 17-35 mil dmg in one round (couldnt survive longer) on whole party of enemies, around 5-8 mil on yhwach with the same formation/bonuses. Last void I did around 6 mil... so I pretty much deal 3 times less damage now... Seriously is it so fucking hard to just make it that everyone dies after 5 rounds? Instead they are fucking around with various crap that only screws over us plebs who could survive one round and do some damage and does absolutely nothing to people who are dealing billions of damage. Only change is that others can damage the void one more time before the others kill it... Looks like I will have to go back to 4/2 eq on my muken if I want to do more damage cause 240% with full set and no dmg rate bond with 30% extra from shy nemu halo seems not enough...
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 06:32:35

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2018-6-10 06:20
They must have increased the imm rate by a lot because before even with block and just 50% bonus att ...

From what everyone is saying im guessing you need 250% dmg rate to deal any dmg at all.
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2018-6-10 07:35:09

Well I guess that could be about right considering I should have 270% with shy nemu bonus and can do some damage but still the increase must have been quite big cause going from 17+ mil dmg with enemies blocking to 7 mil with no block is quite a drop
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 08:08:56

Just got mine to 271% and he can last 20 rounds so ill be posting any changes when next void comes around
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-6-10 10:36:09

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 14:02
Did you manage to do dmg normaly though?

not at all              
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-10 13:12:46

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 04:32
From what everyone is saying im guessing you need 250% dmg rate to deal any dmg at all.

not really tho lol! My HVI only have 244% and still can do a ton of damage
author: itsme8805    time: 2018-6-10 14:08:26

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-10 13:12
not really tho lol! My HVI only have 244% and still can do a ton of damage

with kokuto?







author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 14:50:51

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-10 13:12
not really tho lol! My HVI only have 244% and still can do a ton of damage

Yes really.Kokuto pumps him up to 284%.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-10 19:56:57

oh right oops, my bad lol! I miss out on that one
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-6-10 20:02:21

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 14:50
Yes really.Kokuto pumps him up to 284%.

I'm not sure if if it really increases his damage rate by 40% or if it just increases his final damage by 40%. I forget now.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 22:02:19

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2018-6-10 07:35
Well I guess that could be about right considering I should have 270% with shy nemu bonus and can do ...

i feel that.i dropped from 500m-1b per hit to 51m per hit lol.thats 10x-20x less lol.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-10 22:05:30

theunknown404 replied at 2018-6-10 20:02
I'm not sure if if it really increases his damage rate by 40% or if it just increases his final da ...

its 40% increase in dmg rate AND atk as far as i know. :/
author: sivern    time: 2018-6-11 02:36:08

[attach]22278[/attach]
i dont see isane here?

author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-11 10:59:03

Edited by XSuperSaiyanX at 2018-6-11 13:20
sivern replied at 2018-6-11 02:36
i dont see isane here?

Ok dude seriously..No offense but if i say i used isane and i didnt do any dmg why would i lie about it and confuse people even more???Furthermore if i used isane and did damage why would i make a thread about muken doing 0 dmg in void while believing its a bug?I used isane.Did no dmg.Switched to Toshiro just to test the freeze.Still no dmg.
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-6-11 12:59:13

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-10 22:05
its 40% increase in dmg rate AND atk as far as i know. :/

It increased the total output damage for Yhwach's mods. I'll have to check again later.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-11 13:17:32

sivern replied at 2018-6-11 02:36
i dont see isane here?

more insight:actually i switched to toshiro from isane because he is stronger in general so that my dot from jakka raises,so i gained like 1 m of extra dmg.but isane never actually helped even with the buff.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-12 21:41:21

Hmmmm.... Is there a cap on block rate for muken?
I have 108% of block stones on him but in details it wont show except 95.5%?
So asking here to clear doubts if there is a cap then i better move my block stones on somebody else.
author: Malshun    time: 2018-6-12 21:46:20

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-12 18:41
Hmmmm.... Is there a cap on block rate for muken?
I have 108% of block stones on him but in details  ...

cap of 90% of block, break defense, dodge, counter from stones.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-12 22:00:03

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-12 21:41
Hmmmm.... Is there a cap on block rate for muken?
I have 108% of block stones on him but in details  ...

caps at 90% BUT it raises over the 90% with mods and evos

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-13 00:38:37

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-12 20:00
caps at 90% BUT it raises over the 90% with mods and evos

so did the extra damage rate works tonight?
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-13 01:01:02

Thank you then i will remove extra stones from muken and will give to main or some other partner.
I wish there was a way to break cap.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-13 01:26:27

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-12 23:01
Thank you then i will remove extra stones from muken and will give to main or some other partner.
I  ...

There is, if you have a partner that has a mod that exceed 90% cap block rate. OR sacrifice your mods and change them ALL to block.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-13 01:36:51

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-13 00:38
so did the extra damage rate works tonight?

actually IT DID!!felt so relieved i was almost certain it was a perma bug. thank you all <3

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-6-13 01:41:38

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-12 23:36
actually IT DID!!felt so relieved  i was almost certain it was a perma bug. thank you all

told you not to worry too much buddy! Keep it up!
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-13 01:51:36

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-13 01:41
told you not to worry too much buddy! Keep it up!

thank you!felt good killing the void again! mah prizeeesss
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-13 02:40:37

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-13 01:26
There is, if you have a partner that has a mod that exceed 90% cap block rate. OR sacrifice your m ...

Hrere is my Muken's damage from today's VR.  

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author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-13 09:18:17

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-13 07:36
actually IT DID!!felt so relieved  i was almost certain it was a perma bug. thank you all

So how much DMG rate was increased for you so you can deal dmg again?
Mine still does in single digits lol

Oh and what did you change to increase please do tell
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-13 09:21:27

DeEmEn replied at 2018-6-13 07:26
There is, if you have a partner that has a mod that exceed 90% cap block rate. OR sacrifice your m ...

Nope cant change muken mods not any of it for block. they are perfect just need chaos immune though lol
BTW changed spirit stones and got a boost in BP by 61710 on giving others parnters the spirit stones that were capped out on him.
So thank you for a good advice to all.
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-13 20:09:44

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-13 09:18
So how much DMG rate was increased for you so you can deal dmg again?
Mine still does in single di ...

from 241% i increased it to 273%. somewhere between those numbers(prob 250?not sure) is the voids cap that you need to exceed.there are few dif ways to do it,like raising hogyoku lvls and upgrading your equip.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-6-13 21:09:14

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-14 02:09
from 241% i increased it to 273%. somewhere between those numbers(prob 250?not sure) is the voids  ...

can you tell me what levels and which hogyoku you have on muken?
I tried that but seems to have no effect on modify. Lost 2 Ultimate on swallow
author: XSuperSaiyanX    time: 2018-6-13 22:09:26

jackthehorn replied at 2018-6-13 21:09
can you tell me what levels and which hogyoku you have on muken?
I tried that but seems to have no ...

you need to lvl up hogyokus that give you dmg rate,not just leveling up any kind of hogyoku.and leveling up equips is still an easy way.not reinforcing the equips,but upgrading their tier lvl,like going from aquaria tier to firelord(advance in shutaras shop).
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-6-16 21:56:01

Sorry to my Void group, I did an experiment today and last Void.  I found that 70% dmg rate from Noble Isane with 50% attack from Isane does more damage than 50% attack from Isane and 30% dmg rate plus -50% defense from Bankai Kenpachi.  Last VR with Isane/Noble Isane/Gerard/Muken I did 8.5b and I did 7.1b with Benny/Isane/Hasch/Muken.  It looks like Noble Isane is the queen of VR.
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-6-17 02:09:37

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-6-13 10:36
actually IT DID!!felt so relieved  i was almost certain it was a perma bug. thank you all

then the problem was damage rate?
author: xb7gyahoo    time: 2018-12-7 08:12:14

Edited by xb7gyahoo at 2018-12-7 08:18

I have a similar problem. My Muken has the highest damage rate, attack, and hit rate in my server. Same as my Yhwach (both over 1mil  attack) but I do no damage while noobs with half my stats do more overall damage per attack! I also used Noble Isane and same result. Trust me damage rate is not the problem.
My vip0 alt does more damage per hit (3mil overall bp). my main has over 12mil overall bp. lmao what a joke.

author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-12-7 08:59:55

xb7gyahoo replied at 2018-12-7 14:12
I have a similar problem. My Muken has the highest damage rate, attack, and hit rate in my server. S ...

Its called nerfing muken in void.
Or so i read it somewhere.
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-12-7 09:25:41

they increased the immune rate and not sure if they increased the aid also
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-12-7 18:49:23

xb7gyahoo replied at 2018-12-7 06:12
I have a similar problem. My Muken has the highest damage rate, attack, and hit rate in my server. S ...

It's the aid rate... it's at 80% right now, so you are only doing 20% dmg to void region. Your alt probably has different zanpakuto that's doing DoT damage which bypass all things... that's why he got more damage?

It's nothing about nerfing Muken only in Void... that just sound crazy lol.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-12-7 18:50:27

Tanfosh replied at 2018-12-7 07:25
they increased the immune rate and not sure if they increased the aid also

they actually lowered back down the avoid injury rate and only adjust aid rate. This is to avoid people 1hko void region and let other players to find other ways to do more damage.
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-12-8 05:18:37

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-7 18:49
It's the aid rate... it's at 80% right now, so you are only doing 20% dmg to void region. Your alt ...

if he should do just 20% that would let us make more damage than now after I saw the last void battle report I saw muken doing 1 and 2 damage for each enemy so I think did something to muken in void
author: jackthehorn    time: 2018-12-8 06:48:06

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-8 00:49
It's the aid rate... it's at 80% right now, so you are only doing 20% dmg to void region. Your alt ...

I only told what i read in the past threads how muken's last mod was invalid and it was valid before something like that.
i know i am crazy but not that crazy if the skill or mod is changed later on in the game its called nerfing.

You talked about finding other ways to do dmg so can you tell what are those since askin is not in CSB shop and Rujin jakka is not coming in UBP
Or is THAT the Xmas surprise with an update you hiding with offline events, tell us more.
author: ohmyvenus    time: 2018-12-8 07:14:36

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-7 18:50
they actually lowered back down the avoid injury rate and only adjust aid rate. This is to avoid p ...

u shouldnt lowered avoid injury bcos idiot gg gave free noble isane now VR so easy shit unless they want change noble isane lower isane skill and mod
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-12-8 13:19:55

Tanfosh replied at 2018-12-8 03:18
if he should do just 20% that would let us make more damage than now after I saw the last void bat ...

Just do 20% will allow all top players to 1hko that thing... you guys need to find other ways to do some decent damage.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-12-8 13:48:43

jackthehorn replied at 2018-12-8 04:48
I only told what i read in the past threads how muken's last mod was invalid and it was valid befo ...

Oh, Muken is too broken to be available for everyone, nerfing is fine.

It's more than just that way... I thought you guys sharing secret with each other about how to deal more dmg in void.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-12-8 13:51:00

ohmyvenus replied at 2018-12-8 05:14
u shouldnt lowered avoid injury bcos idiot gg gave free noble isane now VR so easy shit unless the ...

Easiest way to adjust dmg cap right now is aid. Would be great if we can remove freeze from all PvE events.
author: ohmyvenus    time: 2018-12-8 14:43:09

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-8 13:51
Easiest way to adjust dmg cap right now is aid. Would be great if we can remove freeze from all Pv ...

then make it 100% aid rate this noble isane now broken VR also, just modif her mod and skill to other




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