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author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 14:08:14 Title: Make a kickstarter for a new bleach online XD

Edited by ichmkami at 2018-7-17 01:54

Sooo emmm hello people. With the absolute joy that the Tsukishima ( fuck I need to learn to spell) has bestowed upon this small community of ours (sarcasm people) I was discussing with a fellow community member if he/she ( I forgot to ask) thinks if a kickstarter for a new game independent from this would be a good idea. I know how much the community loves this game (no sarcasm here) even though it’s an absolute mess. So I made this thread to ask you guys about this, let’s say as a community we start this project how many are willing to be a part of this and more importantly are there people in the community who have the skills that they can invest to make this thing possible. Rythen said in a different thread that the boss guys for the game now treats this game as a cash cow for a lack of a better term soo... what say people. What is your thoughts on this matter cause I even if am willing can’t do this alone.

Regards,
Ichmkami

author: Finney time: 2018-7-16 14:38:37

bye felicia

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-7-16 14:42:36

Finney replied at 2018-7-16 19:38
bye felicia

logic is impressed

also pay more money for better bleach whoop

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 14:48:37

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2018-7-17 00:42
logic is impressed

also pay more money for better bleach whoop

Valid but still its more of a situation of a small step for man giant leap of mankind kinda thing. As I said it will only work out if the community will work together ya know.

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-7-16 15:13:00

I would totally support this idea, but would be great if we can transfer what we have right now and carry it over to the new server. But who would be hosting the servers? Are there anymore detail about this plan?

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 15:24:01

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-17 01:13
I would totally support this idea, but would be great if we can transfer what we have right now and ...

I thought about complete transfers of accounts but the issue with that is that the game has a shitton of balance issues and a thing that bugs me is how something like how HIV and Muken are on a comparable level even though the in manga power levels are absurdly different (its more of a personal peeve). Since manga is over, we can essentially start making a list and release the characters in a more orderly manner. The thing is i want to keep the familiarity of the game while introduce new stuff like new daily events and such. essentially what I'm getting at is we will have to make a new game cause if we just copy paste the code we will get sued to high heavens. Thats why i was asking if there are people in the community who are able to invest their skills, like programming so that we can make the game. As for server hosting, I am thinking of making a new firm or such like GoGames which will be dedicated to the game. Hope that makes a bit of sense, and i would like both input on the plan and would like to discuss about the plan more.

author: theunknown404 time: 2018-7-16 15:48:43

Edited by theunknown404 at 2018-7-16 15:51

If the game was redone, it would need some major power adjustments to work long term

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 15:50:29

theunknown404 replied at 2018-7-17 01:48
If the game was redone, it would need some power major adjustments to work long term

That's the idea I'm going with, I put some of the base structure of the base plan up in the comment

author: adnane.bek time: 2018-7-16 15:51:11

sup, im the fellow member and i'm a dude

anyway that said, i'm on in any way i can help out with, i'm no program genious but i'm sure there are peeps who are here, i do however know how to count, so if any business model is gonna be formed i'm on, as Deemen (man it's hard to respect the caps letters

) said the best way would be to transfer this plateform between the hands of new investors (us for example) it has a good pyramid of players and also the product is not that bad, and already advertised,

and ichmkami; who dahell is Rydon?

; joke; rythen said n we all read what he said on the tsukishima thread; and i'm pretty serious about knowing how much is this boss asking to transfer the rights to a new dev community or at least leasing it

any suggestions guys? we're chiilling , no pressure, but if we think carefully we may get something from this

Also if rythen can do the middle man for us if the time comes (cuz we need to be serious about it)

author: adnane.bek time: 2018-7-16 15:54:49

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-16 15:24
I thought about complete transfers of accounts but the issue with that is that the game has a shit ...

starting from scratch is not impossible but however it can be tough to advertise on and be granted acces to names n copyu rights, i'm curious if anybody has or had a work experience witht he such of gogames like structures ?

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 16:00:31

adnane.bek replied at 2018-7-17 01:51
sup, im the fellow member and i'm a dude

anyway that said, i'm on in any way i can help out wit ...

I would rather support the decision to take over the game if dont make it from scratch cause the game have a lot of balance issue as we all know. So making it basically a reset and then use the assets they have and rewrite all the stats and the skills so that we can make it more balanced. Plus by taking the rights we will be able to insert more events and such will solve the issue of the game become monotonous over time. I support Rythen being the middle man or something like that and lets say we pull off the new game plan i would love to have on board too since he cares bout the game too ya know. But then that's a late game strat XD

author: adnane.bek time: 2018-7-16 16:11:04

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-16 16:00
I would rather support the decision to take over the game if dont make it from scratch cause the g ...

yep indeed rythen or unknown also and many others;

when i was talking about taking their product (buying or renting) i wasnt reffering about keeping the game as it is, ofc there are a lot of issues to discuss n correct even create. the main reason i think getting this brand is the numbers of players already invested in it and the good concepts ingame such as ryoka or events such as UBP or bankai power.

i dont know much about coding too adn thats a big handicap, and we need some manpower and womenpower too

so if anyone can tell us aproximatively how much time needed to work on the code and programs to make somthing similar plz join the discussion, no comitment

author: adnane.bek time: 2018-7-16 16:21:47

reading about some business models there, gonna sleep soon, see ya all tomorrow

any discord to join?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-7-16 16:52:02

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-16 13:24
I thought about complete transfers of accounts but the issue with that is that the game has a shit ...

A smooth transfer account would be more pleasant because it's all the hard work we dump into this game for the past 3-4 years won't go to waste, and most importantly... the amount of money we spent.

Yes, the game characters plus their power is off balance... But you can also replace those partners with the proper characters inside the manga. Like we can swap out all the Traven partners that are strong... like Arrancars, Gin, Aizen... they deserve to be in better place... and replace them with like 3/4 seat to Lieutenant from all squadron... and etc... Stats can stay the same, just the characters and animation will change. We need coder, graphic designer and etc to make this happen.

btw, HVI is strong because of it's the strong Ichigo (after defeating Aizen and regained his power PLUS the power from all the Kushanāda, the Hell Guardians, who are super strong). AND on par with Muken Aizen because of Kokuto assist. So... I think it's fine.

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-16 17:09:13

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-17 02:52
A smooth transfer account would be more pleasant because it's all the hard work we dump into this ...

Well I get what you are trying to say with the transfer being a more appealing option as you have spent a lot of time and money on the game. But when making a game we have to realize that a new game will just die if no income is generated and it we have 20mill plus bp acc just appearing on the game.. ya see what i mean.

I agree that the stats and skills can remain the same and we will just hammer out the problem child chars. The kickstarter is for the reason to hire/compensate the people whom we can have work on the game and then maintain the servers until the game starts to make a profit and become "self-sufficient".

Well the comparison was for an example ya know XD well as for another one we can take Yhwach and Tsukushima XD

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-7-16 17:50:29

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-16 15:09
Well I get what you are trying to say with the transfer being a more appealing option as you have s ...

Those with 20mil+ BP account will continue to spend to get stronger, especially when the game become more player friendly and everything started to make sense, then we are willing to spend, as we still compete with other top players. Trust me, it doesn't take much to have the system self sustain. Unless, you are looking into more profit for your own.

If you start a new Bleach Online and make me have to start again from scratch... I will never play this game again.

author: Soulbladedx time: 2018-7-16 19:39:33

i hope it wont be spending based as much as gogames made it

author: XSuperSaiyanX time: 2018-7-16 21:13:40

you wont make it far considering all the rights you re gonna need,since kickstarter would draw much attention.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-7-16 22:43:07

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author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-7-16 22:45:02

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author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-17 00:09:54

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-17 03:50
Those with 20mil+ BP account will continue to spend to get stronger, especially when the game beco ...

Valid makes sense, I have a question I would like to ask you(since I haven’t raised my bp by that much) Let’s say after making the game we offer you the levels, spirit stones, the replacement partners and the other bp raising things except for the thing we would fix and or may remove for balance sake (just speaking hypothetically) will the consumer base which has spent so much on the og accounts get mad?? I know one man’s opinion doesn’t define the consumer base but it’s still an important opinion nonetheless.

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-17 00:13:45

Soulbladedx replied at 2018-7-17 05:39
i hope it wont be spending based as much as gogames made it

That’s the plan, I would like to introduce both weak and strong partners and cost them accordingly so that both in higher and lower vip has something to enjoy. Moreover introduce events like ultimate challenge and the lucky table event from unlimited ninja so that f2p have something to strive for as well when playing.

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-17 00:19:43

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-17 08:45
no need for transfer

cant we just screen our stuff and then teh can boom poof the shit up

That could work essentially make it so that we are showing the new players who may join the insane levels that they can get up to and put the best of the bests on like the first 50 servers which could be called the legacy servers. Cause my fear is that people might abuse the transfer mechanic by shifting their acc on a brand new server and then dominating it that ways but by assigning the oh acc to a set number of servers and then releasing a few every months or so depending on the increase specifically for the og should iron out the prob by a little bit.

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-17 00:22:09

XSuperSaiyanX replied at 2018-7-17 07:13
you wont make it far considering all the rights you re gonna need,since kickstarter would draw much ...

That’s why I want the people in the community with the skills to help out in technical situations like getting the rights and such

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-7-17 07:36:11

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-16 19:48
Valid but still its more of a situation of a small step for man giant leap of mankind kinda thing. ...

Ye i know don't worry, I was just messing about and making references

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-23 11:15:35

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2018-7-17 17:36
Ye i know don't worry, I was just messing about and making references

Heh well that’s no biggie XD I think that a game like this has some cool potential if handled correctly this this thread cause the current owners are kinda abusive towards the community with their wierdass new chars with bad balance issues and nonsensical prices...

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-7-23 16:52:07

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-23 16:15
Heh well that’s no biggie XD I think that a game like this has some cool potential if handled cor ...

haha

the current owners are kinda abusive towards the communit

that's a brilliant way to put it indirectly

well if this thread is to gather anything from, it seems like that same community is in the same boat as you and wouldn't mind doing that

also ye on the potential thing, it absolutely does
i personally enjoy the game and have nothing wrong with it (emphasis on the "personally" xD) butt ye there could definitely be alot of paths to lead to a better current state than the one we're in now which the community doesn't seem to like ^^

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-24 05:12:01

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2018-7-24 02:52
haha
that's a brilliant way to put it indirectly

Well indirect blame is my style of talking XD

That’s the thing I made this thread for, to get to know the opinions of the community. Cause my motivation for this thread was my dissatisfaction with the way the game is being Handeled. The best part would be if there is a game designer in the community who can give the cost to build and maintain the game and server so that we can atleast slap together some sort of an abomination which we can customize to be more people friendly and shit XD

author: Kirito4365 time: 2018-7-27 11:43:52

i can see this failing really badly mainly because balance can't be seen in the game but if it somehow works then fuck that'd be amazing

author: ichmkami time: 2018-7-27 16:07:31

Kirito4365 replied at 2018-7-27 21:43
i can see this failing really badly mainly because balance can't be seen in the game but if it someh ...

Well u are aware of the ultimate challenge in un right? By introducing chars which have kinda fallen out of the meta list but aren’t abysmally obselete is one way of reigning the non sense that this game tries to create in the f2p and p2p players, and then slaps something obscene like a muken to try to make up for their screw ups. Another thing that the game does wrong is for the sake of giving an incentive to the dudes who can afford to spend money they introduce monstrosities like hiv which might become relavent in a more later stage of the game but Rn is just op. Power balancing will be a major ass pain tbh cause of the way that game has made its name in the world but I think that it’s not as impossible as it may seem. Well I would like to hear more from u about the whole schenanigan so yeah... XD

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-8-6 10:28:11

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-24 10:12
Well indirect blame is my style of talking XD

That’s the thing I made this thread for, to get to ...

yea that's a good point to see the last line you said there and see what changes can actually be made instead of throwing things out there

it's good stuff i'm reading from here, hopefully it can go somewhere with it all ^^

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2018-8-6 10:28:12

ichmkami replied at 2018-7-24 10:12
Well indirect blame is my style of talking XD

That’s the thing I made this thread for, to get to ...

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