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author: rythen    time: 2018-7-22 11:39:35     Title: Upcoming Zanpakuto: Ichimonji

Edited by rythen at 2018-7-22 18:03



Ichimonji / Kyoka Suigetsu Original stats compare










author: cheeyman20    time: 2018-7-22 11:42:40

last pic reminds me of the green sword from kung fu panda
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-22 11:50:13

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-22 11:57:58

any spec yet rythen? (like skills )
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-22 12:04:49

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-22 17:57
any spec yet rythen? (like skills )

no maybe tomorrow
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-22 12:06:58

rythen replied at 2018-7-22 10:04
no maybe tomorrow

thank you!
author: MurakumoGai    time: 2018-7-22 12:21:57

Phy attack +1050
Speed +1050
HP +1750
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-7-23 04:15:42

Edited by Tanfosh at 2018-7-23 08:54

really assaulter 5% speed and support damage rate 2% only? that's really low for new zanpakuto
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-23 04:23:33

Tanfosh replied at 2018-7-23 10:15
really assaulter 5% speed and support damage rate 2% only? that's really low for now zanpakuto

it is still not finished dont worry
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-23 12:10:03

Max HP pretty much useless as slightly atk upgrade would cover the difference. Physical Attack/Kido Attack/Defence will make this zanpakuto more desirable.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-7-23 12:32:13

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-23 12:10
Max HP pretty much useless as slightly atk upgrade would cover the difference. Physical Attack/Kido  ...

not with a ginjo...  feels like a HP/Def meta is about to happen to me...
author: @ra5h_V    time: 2018-7-23 13:55:15

the story after release


dev1: why we made it?
dev2: rj counter?
dev3: it cant counter
dev1: ppl are buing it
dev2: so everything is fine

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author: Stupidmorty    time: 2018-7-23 19:01:09

Edited by Stupidmorty at 2018-7-23 19:09

sorry not about subject i have jakka would skill that increases attack stack with jakka or make main skill stop the jakkas? skill extreme ice wave lol

author: Soulbladedx    time: 2018-7-23 20:56:22

I wonder if it will be in cbs? if not that's fine just a dream
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-23 22:09:23

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author: Soulbladedx    time: 2018-7-23 23:24:08

Well that sucks gogames is not gonna take my money lol
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-24 01:38:33

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-23 10:32
not with a ginjo...  feels like a HP/Def meta is about to happen to me...

not everyone has Ginjo :/
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-24 08:19:26

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author: aloe89    time: 2018-7-25 11:18:19

rythen replied at 2018-7-22 12:04
no maybe tomorrow

no news about his skill?
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-25 11:20:04

aloe89 replied at 2018-7-25 17:18
no news about his skill?

no, maybe on friday
author: aloe89    time: 2018-7-25 13:09:30

rythen replied at 2018-7-25 11:20
no, maybe on friday

ok, thanks again
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 12:57:58

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-26 11:48

Skill is up... It has the following...

On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth Rate 21% (of total allies attack) Clear all allies debuff. Increase assaulter Combo Rate by 100% (Cannot be cleared), for 1 round. Increase allies assaulters and support 100% Aid Rate (Cannot be cleared) for 2 rounds. Recover allies assaulter by 50 Fury.

Bye Tsukishit. Bye KS. Bye Askin?
author: CryLight    time: 2018-7-26 13:17:24

Wow so basically a destroy pve along with perks of kyoka every round and even to assualter..Nice gg..sigh
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 15:39:49

CryLight replied at 2018-7-26 11:17
Wow so basically a destroy pve along with perks of kyoka every round and even to assualter..Nice gg. ...

I wouldn't say it's a destroy. It actually solved a lot of issues.
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-26 15:53:35

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-26 12:57
Skill is up... It has the following...

On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth R ...

What is a source for the skill's data?
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 16:05:20

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-26 14:09
desintegra replied at 2018-7-26 13:53
What is a source for the skill's data?

No, I made that up.
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-26 16:14:32

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-26 16:05
No, I made that up.

Scared me to death xD
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 17:17:40

desintegra replied at 2018-7-26 14:14
Scared me to death xD

why scared? lol
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-26 17:35:03

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-26 17:17
why scared? lol

I thought that there will be another broken shit ))
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 23:16:34

desintegra replied at 2018-7-26 15:35
I thought that there will be another broken shit ))

it's not broken actually, it's a fix.
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:01:52

Edited by rythen at 2018-7-27 10:04
DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-27 05:16
it's not broken actually, it's a fix.

its broken because the buff last 20 rounds

On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth Rate is 21% (total allies attack) Clear all allies debuff. Increase assaulter Combo Rate by 100% (Cannot be cleared). Increase allies assaulters and support 100% Aid Rate (Cannot be cleared) until fight end , Recover allies assaulter by 50 Fury
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-7-27 04:04:01

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:01
its broken because the buff last 20 rounds

still no update?
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:05:24

Tanfosh replied at 2018-7-27 10:04
still no update?

waiting for hogyoku form but original form is already 25% Speed for support

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 04:06:01

New update:

On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth rate 21% (of total allies attack). Clear all allies debuff. Increase assaulter Combo Rate by 100% and Increase allies assaulter and support Aid Rate by 100% (Both cannot be cleared) until fight is over. Recover allies assaulter by 50 Fury.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 04:07:46

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 02:05
waiting for hogyoku form but original form is already 25% Speed for support

I thought they are gonna work on those hahahaha.
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:11:41

Edited by rythen at 2018-7-27 10:24


author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 04:13:36

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 02:11

holy shit my balls LOL

btw, this zanpakuto will most likely release mid August.
author: Rukongai_News    time: 2018-7-27 04:36:22

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:11

Thank you)))

Last is skill))
Is something known?
author: sayanel34    time: 2018-7-27 04:36:36

What type of fortification bonus is BWB ?
I recognize heal for ichibe, crit dmg for HVI and Uryu, def each round for Ginjo, but never seen the other
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:38:37

Rukongai_News replied at 2018-7-27 10:36
Thank you)))

Last is skill))

Skill: On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth Rate is 21% (total allies attack) Clear all allies debuff. Increase assaulter Combo Rate by 100% (Cannot be cleared). Increase allies assaulters and support 100% Aid Rate (Cannot be cleared) until fight end , Recover allies assaulter by 50 Fury
author: Rukongai_News    time: 2018-7-27 04:40:28

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:38
Skill: On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth Rate is 21% (total allies attack ...

Nooooo.....
I don't believe in that...
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-27 04:45:27

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:38
Skill: On 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th Round. Attack all enemies, growth Rate is 21% (total allies attack ...

So u just put smtning made up and it's done?
Is it official data?
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:49:01

Edited by rythen at 2018-7-27 10:50
Rukongai_News replied at 2018-7-27 10:40
Nooooo.....
I don't believe in that...

but its true.

and this are the fortify bonuses, probably increase with each round
Ichibe - 20% Max HP / heal?
HVI - 5% PATK
Ginjo - 10% Defense
Sternritter Uryu - 10% Break Defense Rate
Byakuya - 5% Crit Rate
author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-27 04:49:06

   so much trolling
author: rythen    time: 2018-7-27 04:50:08

desintegra replied at 2018-7-27 10:45
So u just put smtning made up and it's done?
Is it official data?

thats really the truth sorry                           
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-27 04:51:28

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:50
thats really the truth sorry

Holy shit =/ whatever thx for info
author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-27 04:52:18

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-7-27 10:55

ok so if it is true the Tsuki haters better prepare their credit card and people playing with free zan better prepare their anus
author: Rukongai_News    time: 2018-7-27 05:06:02

rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:50
thats really the truth sorry

Thank you))
Your work is awesome))
Really cool)
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-27 05:06:32

we wish u a merry christmas  we wish u a merry christmas  we wish u a merry christmas  from the bottom of ur credit card!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmssLcQj9ts
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-7-27 06:11:29

Edited by Tanfosh at 2018-7-27 06:22
rythen replied at 2018-7-27 04:11

it will start with assaulter 5% speed and support damage rate 2%
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-27 08:46:33

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author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-27 09:15:20

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 08:46
wait is this thing not defensive aside from clearing debuffs

100% aid for a whole team, do u even need more defence?
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author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-27 12:09:35

rugalb666 replied at 2018-7-27 04:52
ok so if it is true the Tsuki haters better prepare their credit card and people playing with free ...

hahah the last part ... priceless..lolzz
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 13:25:14

Rukongai_News replied at 2018-7-27 02:36
Thank you)))

Last is skill))

I already posted the skill for ya... lol you missed me and his comment.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 13:27:48

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-27 11:29
rythen replied at 2018-7-27 02:49
but its true.

and this are the fortify bonuses, probably increase with each round

Ichibe - 30% Max HP
HVI - 5% Phy ATK
Ginjo - 10% Counter Rate
Sternritter Uryu - 10% Break Defense Rate
Byakuya - 5% Critical Rate

These bonus added once enter battle, unlike the other zanpakuto. Other zanpakuto will trigger these bonus after first attack/being attacked.
That's most recent one. Things may change.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 13:31:45

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 06:46
wait is this thing not defensive aside from clearing debuffs

atk only for HVI, stern is break def.

If you want def, they can add that in, and everyone will be crying this zan is broken. lol!
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 13:32:47

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 08:53
Well aid isn’t real defense

It can backfire

Nah... it last 20 rounds, or till battle is over. lmao.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-27 13:35:28

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 14:30:16

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 11:35
I don’t really care what they add it’s gold costing zan and most people won’t even get it espec ...

This zanpakuto fix all the OP crap issues. I wouldn't worry about it.
author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-27 14:50:43

fixing broken thing by being even more broken so at the end you can't even tell what is broken anymore
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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 15:50:55

rugalb666 replied at 2018-7-27 12:50
fixing broken thing by being even more broken so at the end you can't even tell what is broken anymo ...

Everything has a balance. Put this in your mind, VIPs will always have the upper hand. I don't see you guys complaining when people can get free OP stuff that makes cash partners like nothing.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 15:52:04

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 13:50
How will it fix anything?

It cost gold and many won’t even get it

It's time to top-up then? lol!
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author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-27 17:36:27

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-7-27 23:43
DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-27 21:50
Everything has a balance. Put this in your mind, VIPs will always have the upper hand. I don't see ...

You talk as if free op stuff were inaccessible to vip , they are the first ones to get it and they can use it with better gear and zanpakuto already, so yeah always the upper hand could not agree more. It was fairly predictable that thanks to the economical p2w model they will create a pay counter to Tsuki but this is overkill. Even worse I am sure the majority of the ones getting the broken zan will be  sporting Tsuki very soon as well.Tsukishima I'll probably never have the time to get him, but at least I know it'll took a minimum amount of time before a full invasion because of the grinding to do even for a top of csb, on the other hand if Ichimonji become as common as RJ this is going to be a nightmare
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2018-7-27 18:17:44

And this whole thread is why I rarely ever visit the forums anymore. More and more disappointment almost every time I come. Only time it's never disappointment is when I see the fan made partners. I'd love to see more stuff added to SWP. Like my fan made tousen. Add more reasons to really do Hueco Mondo Attack other than to collect dust now that Ultima and Noza have been out classed by god tier partners. Fix certain events. I know i've been seeing a lot of talk about void recently so that's good but give some light to ES lol. I rarely ever do it seeing how it's always one shot the moment it starts. Also fix the Notifications that pop up. I always miss ES anyways and with Ryoka. I'd love to have all those pop up just disappear. Leave them in the chat box lol. I look over at my lap top and I can just see it slowly and steadily starting to lag a bit the more the kill messages pop up. And Alliance battle. Do something with it. Is there even a real reason for the honor shop if there isn't much of anything new in it? Fuck Put ichimonji in there as a reward like the partners are or something lol.

Also no one hate on my ideas here. This is just a little bit of anger that's been pent up every time I see something done with CSB and not SWP. It just Aggravates me to a certain point. Oh and this all is just my opinions just as everyone else is entitled to.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 23:37:02

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-27 21:58
rugalb666 replied at 2018-7-27 15:36
You talk as if free op stuff were inaccessible to vip , they are the first ones to get it and they  ...

Not all of them are accessible, like me, I won't have Tsukishit anytime soon. honestly his build is ridiculous for a free partner, just like KS and Muken.

Having a 21 mil BP team beaten by a mere 11mil team is super sad, should be impossible to do, but all these free stuff from CSB shop made it possible. Ichimonji is the thing that will bring the balance back. When Muken or KS become as common as RJ, it's even more chaotic.

New stuff coming out all the time, I dont see why you are complaining. I don't see you talk when Tsukishit came out.

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-27 23:38:24

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-27 13:58
Also I was and still am complaining about mooken
Also also I don’t need to top up for ichimoney I  ...

what in the CSB shop that's not broken? =]
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 02:51:44

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 03:09:15

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 00:51
tsukishit isnt broken

lol very well then.
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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 03:59:45

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 01:48
and you guys (forum peeps) really jumped the gun with the tsukishit hate

I didn't jump the gun btw Tsukishit is horrible, I will never get him myself. with or without knowledge of Ichimonji.

Ichimonji is designed to fix current situations.

Hint: we kinda asked to make Ichimonji can give fury to counter this 50% fury deduction. Don't think they planned to do it, cuz it was never mentioned.

It's just sad looking at numb nuts go without fury. It's like back to our old noob days again.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 04:14:24

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 04:55:46

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-28 02:58
Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 02:14
wait tsukishit is horrible?

Logic is there in this game.

Inferno partners/zan are broken. Ichimonji is OP but at least it was made reasonably.

At least fury was not given to supports or whole team, so KS users can still have a fighting chance; Tsukishit's mod 7 didnt entire go to waste. Askin can still do decent toxic damage.

What did KS do to us with RJ and cash partners? KS cancel out all enemy buff and self debuff, strip the other team entirely of power up and your own disadvantage. Chaos the right guy will have their own team wiped out. I have seen 21mil BP team got beaten by 12~ mil BP because of KS. Logic? nope. Logic is higher BP with amazing team and much more invested formation should win, the other team should see no hope to defeat stronger guy. Oh, you can use KS too to counter. Yea sure... drop what I invest and pick up something free just to counter? pfft... It should be the other way around, you drop your free shit, top up to counter RJ. Logic.

Tsukishit drained half starting fury from the enemy team, makes the fury stones we collected over past years become worthless. So what if both team can have him, it's like dropping us back in kindergarten and fight like a baby again. Suicide to gain fury? no thanks, horrible tactics. Select a partner that gain fury when attacked? Sorry, that will limited our choices and tactical play. Wait for future partner? No thanks, who knows what will come out. Yes, Tsukishit is horrible, he can come out when more options were available to counter him normally. Aka, I present you Ichimonji Zanpakuto.
author: Sylencer90    time: 2018-7-28 04:58:27

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author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 18:02:00

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 19:59:46

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 16:02
do you know what worthless means?

stop exaggerating
Yes, you can still use Fury Stones on PvE, but PvP is worthless, T1 is one of the main thing in PvP. When facing Tsukishit, fury stones become worthless due to the fact no matter how many fury stones, even with ALL lvl 12 fury stones, you still cannot skill first round.

Fury gain on death on FIRST ROUND is plain stupid. It's a form of struggle that weak players use to keep up. Sorry, I am not one of them.

Ichimonji is finalized and ready to release mid-August.

Like I said, what in CSB shop is not broken? But at least Muken cant do shit if teams are build up properly now. You haven't seen my Muken with 2.1mil atk is struggling to damage decently build team. Maybe you should start building your team properly first then we will go from there?

HVI and Stern are working properly as far as I know.

With KS sacrifice speed, who cares, speed isn't important at this point of game. Maybe for you it is.

She mainly win because of how I describe it previously. Multilate and ignite isnt a big deal.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 20:12:12

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 20:26:03

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 18:12
You do not need to skill turn 1 (you can but you obviously dont want to)

You avoided the questio ...

Ichimonji is one of the good option to counter that fury mod from Tsukishit.

You are not reading my previous statement properly about wtf I want to do to counter it.

There's nothing I don't understand in Muken and the rest of the inferno shop items. They are all broken. But it's Aizen sama, so its all good.

Going 2nd is BEST factor especially with noob-friendly zanpakuto KS.

I always have shit speed, I am still slow comparing to some other people. I don't buy a partner just because he/she is fast. If he has the right skills, bond, mod and fit in my team, sure, I don't mind taking a slow partner.

Well, you are bashing on Muken and you complain how people stack, of course I know the people who you are dealing with, obviously not big spenders. This is why I said you are not at the point where speed and stack Muken aren't a problem anymore.

I did not deflect anything, all my answers are direct and on-point.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 20:49:58

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author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-28 20:52:02

Ichimonji is designed to fix current situations.

Elaborate

Hint: we kinda asked to make Ichimonji can give fury to counter this 50% fury deduction.

Who designated that zanpakuto in the first place, and asking for something to counter someone sounds selfish, don't you think ? If that was a strategy to make the moneys for GoGreed, why don't you ask the devs to give void 600% dodge to force everyone to buy the hit rate-buffer instead ? Similar to when void got his DEF raised then HVI came out. This is just bad.

It's just sad looking at numb nuts go without fury. It's like back to our old noob days again.

Well depends if you are nostalgia or nah lol, those days were gold, the Bleach handled by the right devs, even if we all had a slow start we all liked that, but now it looks like it is handled by the bad devs who take the worst possible route of Bleach's evolution.

At least fury was not given to supports or whole team

Oh I didn't read the skill properly, I thought Ichimonji gives 50 fury to everyone (on skill or everyturn for 20 rounds ?) but that's kind of overkill with the 100% combo, the assaulters can skill on round 1 just fine with the combo (Starts with 50 fury, attack to recover 50 fury and attack a second time to skill). At the end you adviced them for the 50 fury recover to counter Tsukishima, but it ends up being a counter against the fury reducer-partners like Hasch, Kokuto... not a Tsuki counter.

I have seen 21mil BP team got beaten by 12~ mil BP because of KS.

So what's the difference between them is that the 21m BP one doesn't have a brain, if he hardstacks an assaulter (Muken or HVI) or the formation doesn't have a shield of course he dies like a retard, you don't buy a brain with the money, you get them only from experience, look at the plants on the newer servers who shell out $1000+ to have a dream team but without knowledge, do you still think he can win just with a meta team ? The dude with 21m BP had no brain, that's all, and the 12m one stays a lucklet, he only has 20% chance and that 20% is too RNG to win everytime in a daily basis.

makes the fury stones we collected over past years become worthless.

If you go without a single fury stone, you start with 0 fury (the halo decreases the fury by -50 apparently, not -50%, stupid fake gaijin translation), Kokuto (and few partners before) made the fury stones "worthless" in your eyes, so how did you counter kokutos ? They are not worthless bro.

Suicide to gain fury? no thanks, horrible tactics. Select a partner that gain fury when attacked? Sorry, that will limited our choices and tactical play. Wait for future partner? No thanks,

Well that's your choice, but we are playing in a game of STRATEGY, it has no unique genre, the meta doesn't define the toptier broken non-counterable partner, no, it just defines the popularity with this character, even if the character is broken or you have a meta team there are millions of variation of team to counter a meta team, it's all about STRATEGY, if you don't follow it then you'll have the same fate as the 21m BP guy... And yet you decide to add the fury on Ichimonji for your own purpose and for the future plants, not for the community of old bleach players.

>monie monie
There are better ways to catch more money, but the route the devs have taken is one of the worst for both the community and money-grabbing.

I call it stupid that one "free" partner can flush your entire setup down the toilet.

Again it's a game of strategy, keeping with the same formation with or without synergy is a death sentence, no surprise there.


The game was NEVER P2W, how many time do I have to repeat to make that fact enters in your skulls ? If you wanted a P2W game, might aswell remove UBP from Bleach, CSB costs gold, make the game costs $$$ once you reach level 30 to continue playing (like a free trial) etc... The partners that cost gold were never something ONLY VIPs can get, you top-up to buy a future free partner IN ADVANCE and it's because of UBP that partially made the game not P2W, there are only few partners and SWP that are not obtainable by the free players but they really not a game changer, the free players can still beat someone who have a VIP-only partner, just because of UBP and 'lot of free shit a free player can deal with the VIPs (remember it's all strategy) and can have a formation that the VIPs had before, so where is the P2W part in this game exactly ?



Reminded me of someone who paid for a partner who came out for free in UBP tomorrow hahahahaha another player felt in the trap, you top-up because you are not patient to wait 2 years for a partner to be free, the partners are all overpriced as shit to gain only ehhh a little something ? A pride ? Be unique ? You were all aware of overpriced they are and yet you take the bait...

Those peoples are still thinking the game is P2W ? I swear... Make a slot of a certain piece of equipment in the character menu only equipable by VIP8+ so we start to make the game P2W.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 20:58:55

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-28 18:52
Elaborate

After reading this comment.

"So what's the difference between them is that the 21m BP one doesn't have a brain, if he hardstacks an assaulter (Muken or HVI) or the formation doesn't have a shield of course he dies like a retard, you don't buy a brain with the money, you get them only from experience, look at the plants on the newer servers who shell out $1000+ to have a dream team but without knowledge, do you still think he can win just with a meta team ? The dude with 21m BP had no brain, that's all, and the 12m one stays a lucklet, he only has 20% chance and that 20% is too RNG to win everytime in a daily basis."

Obviously, you don't know anything about this person, and you made this assumption. So I decided to skip the rest of your comments.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 21:03:45

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 18:49
i guess i did miss this " Aka, I present you Ichimonji Zanpakuto."

if that was you sayi ...

yup TLDR. Keep up the good work.
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-28 21:32:11

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 21:57:29

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-28 19:32
keep up the top ups

will do thanks
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-28 22:37:35

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-28 20:58
After reading this comment.

"So what's the difference between them is that the 21m BP one doesn't ...

You could have used the picture above instead, here you go, it's christmas.

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-29 00:12:55

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-28 20:37
You could have used the picture above instead, here you go, it's christmas.

I actually took my time to read it while I was waiting for my pizza. A lot of things you said gave me a headache as I was reading. But you can keep your opinion, I am not going to change that. Should stick to what you are good at and not make any comments lol!
author: theunknown404    time: 2018-7-29 00:48:05

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-28 20:52
Elaborate

I'm not really interested in arguing for or against the developers' current actions because we all know they fucked up at some point in the first place (and that they did it for the money), but even if you can say it's not a P2W game, it's not relatively F2P friendly. The gap between paying and free players is still often very large. It is only recently that they have made some more things available to free players.

There are some games where you top-up just because it's fun, but if you want to be any kind of major superpower in this game, you need to spend money. In some games, that's not necessary.
author: rugalb666    time: 2018-7-29 03:54:48

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-7-29 09:57

it's not because they are a few free stuff that's the game is not p2w, in fact p2w games always give you some stuff for free (that's why the commercials always say "play for free!" not "spend a fuckton of money on our game" )not by generosity but to encourage people to buy stuff. Simple example : sure you can get Muken for free with time, but without his modifications he is pretty much worthless, now sure you can wait an insane amount time or have planned billion of years ahead to get enough modification fragments but most likely you are going to top up to do some inherit. So sure it is not the worst p2w ever, as f2p you can still enjoy progress and small victories and get new stuff, but you will always be leagues behind in term of power, plus the core principle of the partners /zan release is out-dating and power creeping former partners so you can never settle down with what you got.
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 04:07:04

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-27 14:30
This zanpakuto fix all the OP crap issues. I wouldn't worry about it.

This pakto won't fix any shit. If u didn't know there is currently only one meta - HVI. U just put bwb  and kokuto, stack block for hvi and u can fuck up any formation. If u need to counter kensei just make hvi faster than others in your team. That's all, hvi has 300%reflection with block, add kokuto and bwb u will oneshot any muken. So what will this new pakto fix?
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 04:22:56

Edited by desintegra at 2018-7-29 04:28

And even more. Hvi can get more than 150% block rate easily. 90% from stones, 5 or more from evo, 40% with bwb star ( it goes over 90% cap and works even if bwb dead), 30% from skill, then if opponent's char attacked bvb then again bwb will reduce break defence to all enemies for 40%, and lastly u can change some hvi's stars. So just imagine how hard to kill him and how easily u can die with his 300% reflection. And aid from so called «fix that» pakto won't help, block ignores it.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-29 04:28:39

desintegra replied at 2018-7-29 02:07
This pakto won't fix any shit. If u didn't know there is currently only one meta - HVI. U just put  ...

There is no meta, just a list of partners and see how you can afford and use them. One simple solution, chaos, make him hit his own team. KS or any partner (Raijin?) that cast chaos or stun from any partner can easily do the job. Tsukishit can make any of them won't be able to skill, your muken (I assume you stacked him?) can finish the job.

This zanpakuto is to fix problem in near future, to clean up the mess from CSB shop.

With this zanpakuto, your support can surely go before HVI activates. Your team will be more tanky, your supports can easily control HVI movements. This new zanpakuto will fix your so-called issues.
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 04:31:44

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:28
There is no meta, just a list of partners and see how you can afford and use them. One simple solu ...

It seems u didn't get it. Hvi can just stand there and do nothing while u will kill yourself from that block. Ks and ichimonji will clean all debuffs, what chaos?
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 04:43:11

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:28
There is no meta, just a list of partners and see how you can afford and use them. One simple solu ...

Hvi is the only char who has 300% block reflection, with his basic attack 2- 2,2kk and 40% from kokuto star and 50% attack from bvb it's about 4kk attack x 3, 12 kk with reflection that ignores def, aid and avoid injury. It's a oneshot and block reflection can crit easily, u will get more than 20kk back at your face
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-29 04:45:41

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-29 02:48
desintegra replied at 2018-7-29 02:31
It seems u didn't get it. Hvi can just stand there and do nothing while u will kill yourself from  ...

Well, I don't know about you but the amount of BWB is too limited. Whoever touched HVI mods are idiots.

Mods usually no longer works if that person is dead, if you have a BR you can prove it to me, I will ask if they can fix that.

KS sure, if you go AFTER him then he can't clear debuff, this is what people are doing, go after always give you advantages. IF you have Tsukishit, he can't even skill to give HVI the extra block, stun him chaos him, do whatever you do to rape him. It's for you to figure out the strategy to beat him. HVI is not invincible...
Anyways, off to bed. I will try to count how many players have both Kokuto, BWB and HVI at the same time... zZzzzZz shit... I can't even count 1.
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 04:55:02

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:45
Well, I don't know about you but the amount of BWB is too limited. Whoever touched HVI mods are id ...

We already tested all this shit, block star from bvb works after his death no dispute on that and it goes over 90% cap. If u don't get that some  hvi mods can be changed without much harm, then u shouldn't call those people idiots, they r current tops of their csb. And they did a lot of research on this stuff
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 05:08:27

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:45
Well, I don't know about you but the amount of BWB is too limited. Whoever touched HVI mods are idi ...

R us and euro so poor? We have a lot of bwb, kokuto and hvi. I won't prove u anythig we r satisfied with current situation. U better advise them to fix void and spirits, they die like a shit
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 05:18:54

Edited by desintegra at 2018-7-29 05:24
DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:45
Well, I don't know about you but the amount of BWB is too limited. Whoever touched HVI mods are idi ...

And it looks like u lot can't even guess that if u will make hvi fastest in your team ( u also need to change his star that gives 30% speed under attack so he wouldn't go before yours KS) then he will go after opponent almost all the time ( it means no debuff that will hinder u )  and if not then he will just oneshot opponent with his insane damage how do u even play there?
author: desintegra    time: 2018-7-29 05:32:21

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-29 04:45
Well, I don't know about you but the amount of BWB is too limited. Whoever touched HVI mods are idi ...

Btw we also developed good counter for hvi's block but devs ruined everything with tsukishima. Thx a lot. And u even promoted more block strategy with so called « fix that» pakto xD



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