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author: MurakumoGai    time: 2018-7-25 05:49:22     Title: Fix void region vote

I need feedback from every player who still play this game
about void region 1 shot problem


author: sayanel34    time: 2018-7-25 05:58:43

Well, the real problem is about how deep the difference between old players and new players is. All the updates were about more def, but it only makes new players more far to take +5 dmg on void. Old players (assuming they have Muken) still can one shot the boss because they already reached atk requirement.

1) No more def, please. More atk would again more penalize new players, and again old just does not care.
2) Heal after hit, well you just have to do more damages, no point here really since big players are not capped yet.
3) Remove revival button, yeah that's good
4) The best option. You have advantage if you're big because you're doing really good damages, but new players could still do something in this event.

The best would be having death skill for evil spirit (at 5 or 10 round) AND remove revival button... yeah ? someone is telling me it's already done with ryokas...
author: shangri-la    time: 2018-7-25 06:04:59

3 and 4 for me
author: negatiwe13    time: 2018-7-25 06:48:46

4 is fine,  remove revival botton  is ok, but I voted for 4
author: Tanfosh    time: 2018-7-25 06:59:50

3 and 4 is good option. I prefer 3 because of those who keep spending coupons to revive and deal more damage
author: grimmjowpantera    time: 2018-7-25 07:03:12

sayanel34 replied at 2018-7-25 04:58
Well, the real problem is about how deep the difference between old players and new players is. All  ...

Yeah it's done well with Ryokas.
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-25 08:03:18

Just cancel the whole void .... come up with new type of event
author: sivern    time: 2018-7-25 08:07:26

RiadDahoe replied at 2018-7-25 08:03
Just cancel the whole void .... come up with new type of event

why cancel void it gives more coupons,
author: alicantibet    time: 2018-7-25 08:35:13

I vote 2 and 3.  

author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-7-25 08:37:44

IMO...

double HP
make 5th round kill 100% of the time
auto enter (like in ES and Ryoka)
return def to 2M or so, so that the lesser peeps can get some damage in there
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-25 09:48:27

2 & 3 (and even 4 ?) if I could vote more than one time.
author: Asian123    time: 2018-7-25 10:36:56

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-25 14:37
IMO...

double HP

Make the hp at least 100billion on all 5 characters.
5th round kill.
remove the revival button
defence 2m

author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-25 10:40:18

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author: zelkova12320    time: 2018-7-25 10:50:55

I voted for 4 but I like option 3 too. Also add way more hp instead of increasing its def again.
author: SeptaTK    time: 2018-7-25 11:14:33

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-25 08:37
IMO...

double HP

Those are good ideas that i would agree with.
author: cheeyman20    time: 2018-7-25 11:37:41

everybody wants a 5th round kill thing but freeze is still gonna work
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2018-7-25 12:47:05

sivern replied at 2018-7-25 08:07
why cancel void it gives more coupons,

well , it mostly works for the small group that is able to get a hit in. Unless they make a ryoka type of system , the OP players will be the only group benefitting. Second, a event that last seconds is not worthit. Third ... void starts late for me , so i get extra salty ..hahaha especially when i dont get a hit in ..lolzz
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:37:15

I was going to make this post... But they claim they will attempt to fix passive skills problem. If they manage to fix that, we won't even need to do any of those things.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:39:47

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-25 12:41
sayanel34 replied at 2018-7-25 03:58
Well, the real problem is about how deep the difference between old players and new players is. All  ...

Let me get this straight, having Muken doesn't mean you can 1 shot boss even if they reached atk requirement. Void Region is not a place for beginner in the first place.

3) That's my idea to GoGames, thanks lol!
4) It is not possible at this point. Even death kills at 5 rounds, if people can use SDT or Handsome Toshiro to freeze the enemy and make it last 20 rounds in ES, what makes you think they cant do the same for Void Region. Same issue will occur.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:41:27

Tanfosh replied at 2018-7-25 04:59
3 and 4 is good option. I prefer 3 because of those who keep spending coupons to revive and deal mor ...

Thank you for supporting my idea.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:45:04

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-25 06:37
IMO...

double HP

Double HP doesn't work. I already propose the idea, they said there's nothing they can touch in terms of HP.
5th round kill 100% of time unless you have SDT or Handsome Toshiro.
Auto Enter already propose the idea a long time ago, they didn't add it, I don't expect them to add now.
Keep the same def, don't bother to decrease it, Void Region are meant for advanced players.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:46:34

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-25 08:40
Well I think players would still kill it rather fast with all the damage between Mooken, HVI Stern a ...

I proposed 10x HP and remove revive button to GoGames. They said 10x HP is not doable. Removal of the revive button is possible but have to wait for everyone to support the idea.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:47:56

cheeyman20 replied at 2018-7-25 09:37
everybody wants a 5th round kill thing but freeze is still gonna work

exactly what I was thinking.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:54:51

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-25 12:58

Let me get this straight, this is what I worked with the support and the final conclusion that we came up with.

1.  need more boss att / def or both        They will attempt to fix the passive skills. When its fixed, they will re-adjust atk and def

2.  boss got heal after took damage [like deal 10 to boss heal 3 not reduce point]        Not a good idea, due to the fact that the reward system is based on HP bar. When a player deal certain amount of damage and claim the reward, then if a weaker player attacked, it heal back across the the bar it will create a lot of problem

3.  remove revival botton        I proposed this idea, but support wants to hear everyone opinion before making this move. This along with multuple times of HP amount. but they said they cant touch HP.

4.  make it 5 round to over like Evil Spirit Freeze will bypass that, same issues will occur and favor those that have freeze capability and can go pass 5 rounds. It will be a good idea if they can remove freeze from Void Region, but that's not possible either.

I was going to make this poll, but they said they will attempt the fix in their passive skill first. If it fails, then we will go from there and make these adjustment. Just be patient.

author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-7-25 14:56:07

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-25 14:47
exactly what I was thinking.

easy fix...  immune to freeze
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 14:58:53

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-25 13:00
MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-25 12:56
easy fix...  immune to freeze

It seems easy, I already proposed that idea as well.
Or... they can have shield 24/7 lmao...

yeah no... lol

author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-7-25 15:22:45

Things that would help the most:
1.  Make the Void enemies block again.  As of now, you can make a team built for all offense and survive longer than you would if they blocked.  You can remove defensive and healing partners with current void.
2. Give the Void enemies at least 20 times more HP.  More HP will make the event last longer.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 15:29:45

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-7-25 13:22
Things that would help the most:
1.  Make the Void enemies block again.  As of now, you can make a t ...

1. I also proposed that, they said if block is added back in, it will create a problem, but they didnt mention what kind of problem.

2. Like I said before, they said they can't touch the amount of HP. I also proposed that.

Trust me, every strategic option to toughen up Void Region Boss, I already proposed, all we can do right now is to wait it out, wait and see if they are able to fix their passive skills, if they fixed it, none of these matters. If not, we will try something else.
author: mayuri1177    time: 2018-7-25 15:52:41

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-25 15:29
1. I also proposed that, they said if block is added back in, it will create a problem, but they d ...

They will not fix Void without doing what I recommended.  They will just make it less accessible to people by bumping up defense.  Stopping revives wont stop Void from being 1-shot.
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2018-7-25 16:01:54

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-25 14:58
It seems easy, I already proposed that idea as well.
Or... they can have shield 24/7 lmao...

"immune to forbid" modify can fix the issue...   my isane has it and never gets frozen
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 16:03:13

mayuri1177 replied at 2018-7-25 13:52
They will not fix Void without doing what I recommended.  They will just make it less accessible t ...

They will fix void IF they fixed passive skills. I will keep you guys up-to-date the progress of the fix.

Remember, what you recommended are what I already proposed right at the beginning of this project a few weeks ago.

Stop revives will do the trick for most part, as not every server have powerful people, some half-ass strong people will just keep spamming coupon to get the prize and kill the Void Boss off. It will also work if we can increase Void Boss's HP.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 16:05:59

MylarHyrule replied at 2018-7-25 14:01
"immune to forbid" modify can fix the issue...   my isane has it and never gets frozen

First, let's get them to work on what they have to do.

Second, they already said ending it in 5 rounds is not possible at this stage, because they won't invest time in this game anymore that require more coding. I hope they can change their mind, almost everyday I talked to them and trying to convince how much people love this game and hope to improve game play.
author: ohmyvenus    time: 2018-7-25 16:30:04

as for revive i disagree, u can make gold use 200/500 gold if want spam dont use coup so we will know which fucker use real money and use gold hack, bcos my realm got gold hack
author: ohmyvenus    time: 2018-7-25 16:32:42

VR with stage, 1st stage usual VR after u clear that stage go to 2nd stage VR with 4m + 4m attack def, 3rd stage VR with 8m def+att
author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-25 19:17:42

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 22:02:36

ohmyvenus replied at 2018-7-25 14:30
as for revive i disagree, u can make gold use 200/500 gold if want spam dont use coup so we will kno ...

haha my realm got no gold hack
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-25 22:04:53

Edited by DeEmEn at 2018-7-25 20:06
Devvoke2 replied at 2018-7-25 17:17
wait they make mutilate not work but cant make immune to freeze

They don't bother to make that happen, that's the thing. Bern and rythen said it before, this game is only cash cow for them, they no longer have interest to adjust more than basic editing.
If they actually take their time to adjust, I am sure they can make all PvPE events immune to freeze and 5 rounds end 100%%%%%%

But now we should appreciate that they are trying to fix their passive skills, if that worked, we no need to worry other stuff, and you guys will beg for a nerf lol!

author: Devvoke2    time: 2018-7-25 23:38:26

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author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 02:40:40

I heard there's new version of Void Region coming up.
author: MurakumoGai    time: 2018-7-26 06:02:33

1. atk&def passive will fix for every version maybe in this week
2. this poll will give advice to our god
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 13:47:53

MurakumoGai replied at 2018-7-26 04:02
1. atk&def passive will fix for every version maybe in this week
2. this poll will give advice to ou ...

I already gave them all the advices that every player in here can think of. What can be done, what cannot be done are explained in the previous page.
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-26 13:52:11

3+4           
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 13:56:15

adnane.bek replied at 2018-7-26 11:52
3+4

you have to read what i said lol.
author: evagorasl    time: 2018-7-26 13:59:05

Problem is that lower bp player cant get any silver cus they cganged void to be suited for Muken and now when he even more broke void they need to change it so muken players dont break void and lower bp players can still get some silver, beafore i farmed silver in void with yamas burn now i cant do that and even berserkes renjis death skill gives 0 dmg so there is no way for low bp players to get any silver
author: [email protected]    time: 2018-7-26 14:03:52

evagorasl replied at 2018-7-26 13:59
Problem is that lower bp player cant get any silver cus they cganged void to be suited for Muken and ...

Void is not an event focused on obtaining silver... It's for coupans and stuff
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 14:35:29

evagorasl replied at 2018-7-26 11:59
Problem is that lower bp player cant get any silver cus they cganged void to be suited for Muken and ...

Void are meant for Advanced Players. Just saying.
author: Potdenutella    time: 2018-7-26 14:48:34

[email protected] replied at 2018-7-26 14:03
Void is not an event focused on obtaining silver... It's for coupans and stuff

This.
But Void can be silver-focused if they raise the cap to 2m per strike from 1m, more than 2m is just too generous I guess as we earn 130m max from ES and 50~80m from Ryoka. Assuming void lasts 60min you get 120m silver just like that.
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-26 14:59:36

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-26 13:56
you have to read what i said lol.

mmm tru for 4th  i forgot u can force the 20 rounds on es since i dont use

3 is still doable, as for the freeze skill of the thosizz it may be a good thing to correct it indeed
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-26 15:37:15

adnane.bek replied at 2018-7-26 12:59
mmm tru for 4th  i forgot u can force the 20 rounds on es since i dont use

3 is still doable, as  ...

If they can spend some time and make 4th possible, I would ask them to make the bosses immune to forbid skills. But if they cant even take the first step, there's nothing I can do.

3 is still doable, we will wait till this coming or the next Void Region to check how the new adjustment work and see. If the new Void can last for a while, I will ask if they can remove the revive button, so no one have to stress about not being able to click in.
author: evagorasl    time: 2018-7-26 18:44:41

[email protected] replied at 2018-7-26 14:03
Void is not an event focused on obtaining silver... It's for coupans and stuff

Than you obs didnt play bleach before Muken got out
author: [email protected]    time: 2018-7-26 22:07:33

evagorasl replied at 2018-7-26 18:44
Than you obs didnt play bleach before Muken got out

I am playing this game for 3 years... So i totally know how the game was before muken came out.. But now sadly void ends too quickly that almost no significant amount of silver can be obtained
author: [email protected]    time: 2018-7-26 22:10:42

Potdenutella replied at 2018-7-26 14:48
This.
But Void can be silver-focused if they raise the cap to 2m per strike from 1m, more than 2m  ...

Very true .. Hope i can still do some significant damage
author: adnane.bek    time: 2018-7-27 03:02:44

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-26 15:37
If they can spend some time and make 4th possible, I would ask them to make the bosses immune to f ...

well i perso do have sdt so not gonna complain about having this advantage however i do undrstand that this skill has to be put aside in pve events; i aint gonna talk about pvpe a new concept i discovered when i came backc in 2017

thus a 5 turn battle with immune to any crazy skills and make it ryoka like for the cool down

lets see tomorrow the new defense buff i guess
author: GamingUnleashed    time: 2018-7-28 18:59:15

Edited by GamingUnleashed at 2018-7-28 19:13

I dont see the point in removing the revival button thats not going to stop someone 1 hit killing the boss before 1 of the other 4 players in que gets a chance to land one of their hits
something defiantly needs to be fixed , I do not even get to land 1 hit anymore and the events over only 2 x people are getting to land 1 hit at the moment and I am getting 1 hit 1/4 of the time
hell barly even have time to click "attendent chest " and its been reset ...

something needs to be done to at least make it last 30 mins give them back block their was nothign wrong with that
just put it back to how it was when everyone was complaining about being killed after first hit
at least you had time to participate

just like evil spirits that's a 1 shot wounder  by the time a battle loads all other fights are over

and something needs to be done about the way Ryoka Attack que works a lot of time is waisted trying to attack something thats already in battle or dead ..
my partner can walk back and forwads at least 4 time before getting something to battle
their has to be a better way to clear the first 70 waves faster





author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-28 20:50:48

GamingUnleashed replied at 2018-7-28 16:59
I dont see the point in removing the revival button thats not going to stop someone 1 hit killing th ...

Revival Button has to be removed when we make Void Region tankier, to prolong the battle. I can understand your struggle of clicking in, that's why I am trying to ask them to make VR Boss tankier so more people can at least click in. But if you can barely have time to click attendent chest, how about you go in void region a minute ahead so you are ready to click in and get the attendent chest?

Block is impossible to get back in, I already asked and if you read what I said on 2nd page.

I asked to improve ES and Ryoka too, but nope.

What game system are you using?
author: sivern    time: 2018-7-29 10:16:30

void should also have option like guild war that u can click auto enter.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-31 01:40:28

sivern replied at 2018-7-29 08:16
void should also have option like guild war that u can click auto enter.

not possible, two events works differently.
author: sivern    time: 2018-7-31 06:11:20

DeEmEn replied at 2018-7-31 01:40
not possible, two events works differently.

nothing is impossible they are just lazy lol

author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-7-31 13:16:50

sivern replied at 2018-7-31 04:11
nothing is impossible they are just lazy lol

that too lol! but I suggested that option for a long time, if they haven't done it, it's possible it's impossible.
author: Terabit[UA]    time: 2018-8-4 06:39:14

It would be best to put a limit on damage from one attack .. but the rating take into account from the actual damage ..
author: GamingUnleashed    time: 2018-8-8 22:12:41

Finally I can click and enter the game before it Ends


so what where the changes ?
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-8-8 22:15:21

GamingUnleashed replied at 2018-8-8 20:12
Finally I can click and enter the game before it Ends

magic. =]
author: sivern    time: 2018-8-8 22:37:46

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and i last 20 rnds lol

author: GamingUnleashed    time: 2018-8-16 22:07:45

and now we are back to insta kills


so first void after fix 1 full hr heaps of Hp remaining 2nd void 10 mins .. 3rd void .. game over ...
author: sivern    time: 2018-8-16 22:18:45

maybe your realm is just too op. my acc in server 8 took about more than 5mins to kill void. while my other 4 acc finish 1hr and cant kil it.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2018-8-17 02:57:47

GamingUnleashed replied at 2018-8-16 20:07
and now we are back to insta kills

Why? Cuz Freeze...




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