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author: Aratron time: 2018-8-18 09:02:45 Title: HVI vs Ginjo

Who would win?

Ichigo last star vs Ginjo def - how it works?

Bleach Wiki states about HVI attack boost from star 7: A2 = A1 + (D * 0.25 * R). where A2 is the attack in next round, A1 is the current attack, D is enemy defence, R is round.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-18 09:07:40

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author: SolKnight time: 2018-8-18 09:10:04

HVI adds 25% of his enemy's defense to his attack in the most basic way to explain it. Starting round 5 ginjo will have no defense vs HVI so its a slug fest till HVI just depletes all his HP. Since HVI has an ungodly power shield which i doubt a ginjo will break to allow stun and obv shields own Damage reduction pair that with his natural heal in most battles of equal power at a 1 on 1 HVI will win 10/10 times.

author: Aratron time: 2018-8-18 09:11:05

I want to see such battle if anyone has report share it.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-18 16:23:33

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author: rugalb666 time: 2018-8-19 02:28:33

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-8-19 08:31

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-8-18 22:23
say no more
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=46447783623312358&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US
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well what a weird fight, I must said I am kinda lost on what exactly is going on. Those two chumps tickle themselves mutually most of the time (5 reciprocal damage, hilarious) and then there are spikes of damage there and there like PLOT TWIST and then back to tickling

At the end Ginjo wins because he is very healthy: no doubt he eats his 5 vegetables a day, so the moral is saved.

author: Aratron time: 2018-8-19 03:31:16

Something doesn't feel right. So Ginjo gains def faster than HVI growing dmg?

Every time receiving damage, increase own defense by 10% in total. - Explain how this work?

At the beginning of each round, restore 20% of own max HP and increase defense by 20% in total.

I want to know the growth rate of Ginjo's def by round. Also, there were few times HVI did dmg. WHY?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-8-19 03:54:52

HVI power is amazing, especially after you release his exclusive skills, Ginjo will die within a few rounds

Even better if you pair him up with Kokuto.

author: SolKnight time: 2018-8-19 04:03:42

Aratron replied at 2018-8-19 03:31
Something doesn't feel right. So Ginjo gains def faster than HVI growing dmg?

Every time receiving ...

Its Askins death mod.
Let me explain how HVIs last mods works.

let say the enemy has 1 million defense exactly and HVI has 1 million attack what the mod does it takes that 25% of that which is 250K and adds that value to his own Attack remember all boost to defense is also being added to HVIs own Attack so own its own its not Ginjos Defense will not increase enough to stand the damage and since HVI has shield in 1 on 1 he can never outpace HVI.

What happens in that fight was askins death mod which adds 100% Def and Ai Rate. The def itself is not the problem its the AiR which multiplies the base by 100% now if the HVI had a Damage buffer or kokuto in the back he would have still outpaced that but he did not.

So do you get it now?

author: Aratron time: 2018-8-19 05:55:42

SolKnight replied at 2018-8-19 11:03
Its Askins death mod.
Let me explain how HVIs last mods works.

So it is AiR fault ok...

author: theunknown404 time: 2018-8-19 09:07:43

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-8-18 16:23
say no more
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=46447783623312358&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US
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Nice. Doesn't even have his final mod

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-19 09:19:04

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author: SolKnight time: 2018-8-19 09:24:02

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-8-19 09:19
This guy has $$$$$$$$$$ you sure he isnt fully modded

I will do a real test tomorrow wi ...

you did not even check if he had all his mods?
money does not mean auto fully modded chars.
Dude come on it should not be hard to track down the guy and check.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-19 10:38:12

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author: SolKnight time: 2018-8-19 10:43:44

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-8-19 10:38
Its no need to check im 10000000000000000000000000000% sure he has all mods

would be AWFULLY embarrassing if that is not the case

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-19 10:53:00

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author: rugalb666 time: 2018-8-19 13:42:02

Edited by rugalb666 at 2018-8-19 19:50

isn't Ginjo supposed to add in total 30% (with his two mods passive and on receiving damage) of defense each round anyway? so even if HVI remove 25% each round...

I don't get it

author: SolKnight time: 2018-8-20 07:13:14

Edited by SolKnight at 2018-8-20 07:14

rugalb666 replied at 2018-8-19 13:42
isn't Ginjo supposed to add in total 30% (with his two mods passive and on receiving damage) of defe ...

Ok let me explain this again as clear as i can.

Penetrate Defense does not mean Remove Enemy Defense or ignore its effects.
What his mod actually does is take 25% of the enemies Def and adds it to his own attack and that is overall Def the char had in the last round.
For example if void has 4 million Defense this will add 1 million attack to HVIs own Attack each round that goes on and it will continue to grow till end of battle and if that Def was raised to lets say 6 million during the fight it will add attack according to that.So logically if nothing else is interfering you can outpace any Character Defense.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2018-8-23 08:21:03

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author: cheeyman20 time: 2018-8-23 09:44:49

Devvoke2 replied at 2018-8-23 08:21
https://youtu.be/wap-ahcX8dI

mind showing me the stats on that ginjo?

author: adnane.bek time: 2018-8-24 16:31:21

another fight, those 2 seems too young to have made it full mod

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