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author: Hermagaddon time: 2015-2-18 07:19:09 Title: Pve, The 8th skill?

Hey guys, I had a question.

I have heard some people talking about the 8th skill being viable for PVE, Some even said that it was better than the 9th skill. But no matter how i look at it, The increased damage the 9th skill does and the dmg increase it gives is far more than one of your partners getting an extra turn. So i was wondering, Am i missing something? Is the 8th skill better in PVE than the 9th? And if so, How?

Thanks,
Herm.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-18 07:27:24

depends on you realli, 8th skill allow you combo rate 100% therefore most likely attacking twice and furying earlier then expect, therefore more dmg
high vips perfer 9th skills since it can go well with alot of zanpakuto so all come down to your built and lvl i suppose

author: artinfection time: 2015-2-18 09:49:40

8th skill + SWP grimmjow is op . Especially if he crits

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-18 10:15:23

I've always used the 8th skill.

If all partners do 2mil damage a 15% increase should make it 2.3mil. Now that's 3x300k or 0.9mil damage increase.
If the 100% combo rate gives straight out 2mil damage, even if its every other turn, that's still a bit more than the 15% increase.
The combo gets even better if you have Sexy Yoruichi or another special partner.

Well that's my look on 8th vs 9th, but in the end it really depends on your characters. I have run a ton of tests on this but the damage between these 2 skills is barely noticeable. Maybe a solid test without Crit stones, block stones, etc. and without random extra turns will sort this discussion once and for all.

author: Ragnet time: 2015-2-18 10:39:21

If you are using zabi i dont think it matters much which skill u use just that you stick with the choice until the 10th and 8th/9th is maxed out first before leveling the other 8th/9th that u have not leveled. However, if you do have sogyo abandon 9th as soon as 8th is at a point where it can match what u are doing with 9th.
If there was more solid facts about combo rate i think this wouldnt be that hard to figure out.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-2-18 10:56:12

i use sexy.yorui+csb byakuya +main
8th skill i get 20m damage
9th skill i get 16-17m damage

why cos, main does his 8th skill then in the next turn when he does an attack , byakuya will get to do an attack
and when byakuya gets to do a skill, then in his next attack , sexy.yorui gets to attack
so thats like so many extra turns, which is way way better than the 9th skill.

and yes, this depends on your formation. if you don't have a 100% combo guy then go for the 9th skill.

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-18 11:04:06

According to Azrial the best PVE formation till now is Ass- Sexy yoruichi, CSB Ken, main 8th skill, Supp-obedient orihime, shin gin/dark rukia , Zan- Sogyo.....
if you got the green to meet those things mate then 8th will be the best.....if not then i prefer 9th

author: ibromvlieg time: 2015-2-18 11:23:31

i've heard that if you got sogyo as zanpakuto. 9th skill will be useless for pve events, so u have to use 8th skill. but not sure, also never really tested 8th skill. but seeing people own opinion about 8th skill being better then 9th, i might test it tomorrow to see if there really is a difference or not.

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-18 11:25:31 Title: RE: Pve, The 8th skill?

ibromvlieg replied at 2015-2-18 10:23
i've heard that if you got sogyo as zanpakuto. 9th skill will be useless for pve events, so u have t ...

Sogyos buff and 9th skills buff overrites each other.....

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2015-2-18 11:44:48

Well I got dark rukia in current reio and got sogyo from the tresure map thx to my inattention so I will soon be able to test it out as well. Need few more lvls on dark rukia to make her viable and then I will see and will be able to share my experience as well.

author: ibromvlieg time: 2015-2-18 12:03:00

iz4n4minok4mi replied at 2015-2-18 17:44
Well I got dark rukia in current reio and got sogyo from the tresure map thx to my inattention so I ...

then tell me how it goes and if the difference in damage is good enough to get both of them. that way i just might wasted some money for gold to get the both in some next events

author: Uharakamiko99 time: 2015-2-18 18:51:18

one question i have sexy yourichi and Grimjow from SWP and my skill 8 lvl 12, which skill is better for me 8or 9?

author: iz4n4minok4mi time: 2015-2-21 08:23:49

Ok I tested that on ES today and I can honestly say that the increase is barely noticable, definitely not worth the gold which is because(if my understanding of 8th skill is corrent) the 8th skill is bugged and doesnt provide combo every time you use that skill. Not to mention, my partners didnt receive additional round according to this guide http://forums.gogames.me/forum.p ... mp;highlight=stats. I had main, sexy yoruichi and zabimaru renji from top to bottom so according to this guide if my main activated combo with his skill, yoruichi should get additional attack but renji got instead.
Also I would like if someone who has char on CN could explain to us how that 8th skill is suppose to work correctly because in my opinion there are 2 possibilities.
1. you use the skill, trigger combo and one of your partner gets additional attack. (which is how I understand it and which is not working currently)
2. you use the skill and receive 100% combo so next time you attack you trigger it because you have 100% chance. If this is the case then probably the skill is not bugged but completely useless....

author: insignio time: 2015-2-21 08:56:45

From what i know when the main attacks with the skill, the next turn 1 assaulter gets 1 additional attack. Though i observed that when you have 2 assaulters its bugged and does not work.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-2-21 11:27:04

combo is activated on skill , extra turn is received in the next round. for the 8th skill ie. you DO NOT get the extra turn in the same round that the skill attack is performed.
so if your main does skill attack in first round, your second assaulter gets extra turn in the second round AFTER your main does his next attack.

author: watman time: 2015-2-21 17:37:14

Combos rule the game.
That's why you get +5% combo on Level 110 Ult Sets.

There is nothing else quite like the fury regen it provides
My servers #1 has Isshin, and he's close to 4k CSB Stones

I'm trying to get him to nab CSB Byakuya so he can run
Sogyo
CSB Byakuya, Main 8th, Isshin
Retsu Unohana

That combo rate... ouch

author: Edalmau time: 2015-2-22 05:55:17

8th skill works if u have dark rukia and sogyo.
But if u are using Ishin also there's no use for 8th skill, cause Ishin buff triggers so much even with 35%.
So if u have ishin sogyo and dark rukia, choose the skill with more growth rate, 5th.

author: watman time: 2015-2-22 14:28:14

Edalmau replied at 2015-2-22 04:55
8th skill works if u have dark rukia and sogyo.
But if u are using Ishin also there's no use for 8th ...

I'd choose the 10th

author: Edalmau time: 2015-2-23 07:54:22

Ryoka/ES 10th skill?

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