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Title: What should I get, VG Toshiro or Shini Urahara? [Print this page]

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-20 23:16:48

shinigami uruhara, i like stark more than crappy toshiro

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-20 23:17:17 Title: What should I get, VG Toshiro or Shini Urahara?

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-2-20 20:20

I'm on the edge of choosing toshiro or urahara and i'm hoping to get a good formation. At the moment, i have sajin with enough for the 5th mod, level 6-7 stones, kido main, harribel, yourichi, shini yourichi. Can anyone help? Level 89 atm. Planning to get Gin at level 100 if i get toshiro, or stark at 100 and get shini urahara. Ideas?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-20 23:41:59

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-20 20:16
shinigami uruhara, i like stark more than crappy toshiro

any reason why you should point out that stark is better?

author: watman time: 2015-2-20 23:52:00

shini urahara will help you more in PvP

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-2-20 23:53:09

i have both starrk and toshiro. pfft toshiro is a million times better but i'd go with shini ura aswell. he seems WAY more useful in the long run

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-21 00:07:10

I have a hyorinmaru too if its better with toshiro or just get urahara

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 00:25:10

[email protected] replied at 2015-2-20 22:41
any reason why you should point out that stark is better?

stark has more attack and defense, with option of hp regen and aoes
high end players will have STR base talent VG's only

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-21 00:38:43

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-20 21:25
stark has more attack and defense, with option of hp regen and aoes
high end players will have STR ...

what's your level and your bp of stark?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 01:06:44

[email protected] replied at 2015-2-20 23:38
what's your level and your bp of stark?

doesn't matter :3

be a fan boy and buy toshiro, it's only going to rott away and be replaced very shortly.

theres a guy that bought it for 500$ when it first came out, he is retired but uses hollow ichigo now only.

it looks lame too, it's not a partner i'd ever buy or even consider buying

everyone I know that did purchase a toshiro at some point no longer use it, I only see nubs using one.

i'm above lv105 no further details '-'
shin shura kenpachi> toshiro

nozarashi kenpachi > toshiro

hollowfied ichigo> toshiro

a beastly stark > toshiro

sophisticated rangiku > toshiro

demon ichigo > toshiro

author: [email protected] time: 2015-2-21 01:16:09

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-20 22:06
doesn't matter :3

be a fan boy and buy toshiro, it's only going to rott away and be replaced very ...

alright thanks, that made me consider over to urahara.

author: watman time: 2015-2-21 01:28:08

Shini Ura will last you forever due to the control it provides on an entire lane

If you're willing to drop 15k gold on modify frags on Toshiro, you will have a very good vg with 30% stun on being attacked.
But otherwise, what Yagami has said is true about the other vgs

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-2-21 02:22:02

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-21 00:06
doesn't matter :3

be a fan boy and buy toshiro, it's only going to rott away and be replaced very ...

Shin Shura is garbage.

Nozarashi is miles away for most people, and if you are capable of aquiring him, I would take Toshiro + SWP Aizen, over Nozarashi + any free support.

Rangiku is only better in a 3-1-1.

Demon Ichigo is better then everyone.

A beastly Stark is dumb, but if you have the capability to have a beastly Toshiro, it is equally as stupid. The only reason I would go with Stark is because in a Offensive VG formation, you will often be left with only the VG vs 2-3 debuffed opponents. You still win most of the time, but the worst thing is leaving a support alive as Toshiro cannot hit supports, where as Stark can.

author: bladeofcloud time: 2015-2-21 02:53:56

Aristeaus replied at 2015-2-21 01:22
Shin Shura is garbage.

Nozarashi is miles away for most people, and if you are capable of aquirin ...

I smell the bait, the bait is strong within this one.

ur garbage if u think shin shura is garbage

wis hatake used stark to defeat aizen solo and group for hollow soul, all ur complaints are invalid

noob

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-21 03:01:18

Toshiro for sure, 25% attack decrease is golden in both PVP and PVE.
I personally don't understand why people like Urahara so much. Silencing sounds like a small upgraded version from yoruichi or aizen with their stun and fury deduction.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 03:30:30

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-21 02:01
Toshiro for sure, 25% attack decrease is golden in both PVP and PVE.
I personally don't understand w ...

at this point im pretty sure you just live to play devils advocate

where is ur army of trolls????

inb4 s30 shini uruhara wipes ur team

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-21 03:37:14

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-21 02:30
at this point im pretty sure you just live to play devils advocate

where is ur army of trolls???? ...

kek

I-I'm just trying to fit in next to y-you Yagami

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-2-21 12:42:04

bladeofcloud replied at 2015-2-21 01:53
I smell the bait, the bait is strong within this one.

ur garbage if u think shin shura is garbage ...

You are fucking retarded. I said Stark > Toshiro and gave a exact reasoning for it.

Shin Shura does nothing. It isn't until you get Nozarashi that he becomes relevant to this conversation. Oh no, don't attack me with a 300% attack to just my VG, while I am destroying your team with Toshiro or Stark. Even at Nozarashi, which is forever away, you have YEARS before you get max mod on him. 1+1 = 2.

But, since your reading comprehension is so strong, perhaps you could form a actual sentence with a realistic thought on the subject.

author: bladeofcloud time: 2015-2-21 13:31:03

Aristeaus replied at 2015-2-21 11:42
You are fucking retarded. I said Stark > Toshiro and gave a exact reasoning for it.

Shin Shura do ...

thanks for the screen shot, ill be sure to send this cursing to the support asap.
not like I even care about your opinion, but i'm pretty sure you said " a beastly stark is dumb" you just like to run your mouth on forums, im sure of it.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-2-21 14:04:40

bladeofcloud replied at 2015-2-21 12:31
thanks for the screen shot, ill be sure to send this cursing to the support asap.
not like I even c ...

XD........

author: Evild4nte time: 2015-2-21 14:07:20

Wis had probably beaten Aizen with Ichigo too, so thats not that great argument.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-21 14:09:39

bladeofcloud replied at 2015-2-21 12:31
thanks for the screen shot, ill be sure to send this cursing to the support asap.
not like I even c ...

Don't forget to send in your own cursing as well. If you are going to start shit at least expect a similar reaction in return.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-2-21 15:05:13

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-2-22 00:06

since everyone is giving their shit around here, i'll poop some too.

shini.urahara - waste , when compared to tavern aizen in terms of modifiers/fragment requirement/usability
tavern aizen is more than enough for pvp(deducts 50 fury so support can't skill attack), high chance of stunning espadas(for those wanting to showoff their espada defeats instead of completing the previous espada stars to all of their partners).. shini.urarhara does not the same but the same result ie support not doing their skill attack, impossible to modify tier unless spend 5$ per day in accelerate modifier event. [exception when support has 150 fury, to hell with those ppl]

vg toshiro, another waste. go for starrk, stable vg cos of 50% hp recovery (better than ichigo in the stable dept, starrk can be used for gw, seretei etc) . don't go buying a hyorinmaru for toshiro and then dump toshiro and stick hyorinmaru up thy bottoms for good.

swp kenny(upgraded or not upgraded) is best for ryoka for that 50+x wave where u need a vg.

i dunno what is the "shini.urahara wipes the team" shit about, maybe he wipes their shit off.

PS- don't fall for the "he can defeat espada" shit. go to the next espada slowly slowly, finish one, get your partners to compelte its spirit map completely with the bonus, after that you will be strong enuf to defeat the next one. espada defeat shit is only for showoffs.(this doesn't include those who worked hard to defeat espadas, yes you can showoff and i like reading such posts)

PPS- my shit is diff than others so don't pee on it !!

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-21 15:16:22

ajoalex replied at 2015-2-21 14:05
since everyone is giving their shit around here, i'll poop some too.

shini.urahara - waste , when ...

LMFAO

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 16:24:18

Evild4nte replied at 2015-2-21 13:07
Wis had probably beaten Aizen with Ichigo too, so thats not that great argument.

group battle? I don't think so, he needed starks aoe

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 16:27:46

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-21 14:16
LMFAO

I didn't see bladeofcloud curse at all

but I guess you just like to be wrong, so keep doing what you do best

@ajoalex

yeah aizen is a free and effective tavern alternative to shini uruhara, but you limit him strictly to pvp by saying that, when he's a capable partner for pve events ryoka/es 170% growth rate with fury regen, I don't think it's uncommon for people to use jushiro, so theres nothing wrong with shini uruhara.
with the added fact lv110 is far away for many players, and yoruichi isn't that great

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-21 16:43:23

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-21 15:27
I didn't see bladeofcloud curse at all

but I guess you just like to be wrong, so keep doing what y ...

noob is an offensive word.

author: Evild4nte time: 2015-2-21 17:07:49

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-21 15:24
group battle? I don't think so, he needed starks aoe

I dont know the current fight there, but i can imagine, that´s only important, that the vanguard survives somehow, so the assaulters could clear the rest.
Or is starts atk rate that much better than 10th skill ?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-21 17:40:13

Evild4nte replied at 2015-2-21 16:07
I dont know the current fight there, but i can imagine, that´s only important, that the vanguard ...

http://forums.gogames.me/forum.p ... amp;highlight=Aizen

"the fight was long as only my main and starrk could damage all of them."

I dunno how far barrack is in hollow soul map, but i'm positive wis used hyonimaru to clear it

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-2-21 20:16:33

bladeofcloud replied at 2015-2-21 12:31
thanks for the screen shot, ill be sure to send this cursing to the support asap.
not like I even c ...

In what world is me saying "A beastly stark is dumb" interpreted as it is bad.

Do you live in a third world country?

Especially since my literally quote is:

A beastly Stark is dumb, but if you have the capability to have a beastly Toshiro, it is equally as stupid

I used pretty colors so that it might grab your attention long enough for you to understand. Figure I should treat you like a 5th grader at this point, since you are clearly mentally challenged.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-2-21 20:24:53

ajoalex replied at 2015-2-21 14:05
since everyone is giving their shit around here, i'll poop some too.

shini.urahara - waste , when ...

When you evaluate characters, you need to keep absolute endgame in mind. With that being said, Shini Urahara is miles ahead of Tavern Aizen. A T1 Fury Shini Urahara will keep your opponents supports at bay as long as he is alive, and generally a turn or 2 after he dies as well. He also pairs extremely well with a offensive vanguard because it forces generally lower break def characters to auto attack your pumped up Stark/Toshiro/Whatever. As for modifying, it is far easier to Modify Urahara then it is to modify any SWP character ( not that you even can now anyway ). You will get a fully moded Shini Urahara literally years before Ken/Aizen.

SWP Kenny being the best in ONE situation is not exactly great.

author: watman time: 2015-2-21 23:47:11

Shini Ura is end game entire Support Lane Control

Isshin is end game entire Assaulter Lane Control

SWP Aizen provides some VG Control, but not permanent

author: AndriChristopher time: 2015-2-24 03:53:15

shini urahara = beast support ( you can 1 hit ryoka from wave 1 - 50 ++ ) if you are normal spender
toshiro vg = beast vg if you can afford high stone and can modif him . and if you can tier 1 fury him event better
thats all

author: Eilisa time: 2015-2-24 10:50:25

Aristeaus replied at 2015-2-21 19:24
When you evaluate characters, you need to keep absolute endgame in mind. With that being said, Shi ...

It has been mentioned by a reply to someone that the expire dates will be removed on partners but have yet to be implemented yet (going on 3 months now) so if that doesn't get removed a fully modded shini ura never going to happen. The only official word i have seen posted by an admin is in this post http://forums.gogames.me/thread-6622-2-1.html

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 11:17:30

May I interject here?

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... &aid=54&t=1

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... &aid=54&t=1

*Drops Mic, Walks off like a F***ing BOSS!!!!!!!

author: chamsdar time: 2015-3-1 11:48:25

AndriChristopher replied at 2015-2-24 02:53
shini urahara = beast support ( you can 1 hit ryoka from wave 1 - 50 ++ ) if you are normal spender ...

best support is CSB Azien
best vanguard is magstu ichigo

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-1 15:21:04

AndriChristopher replied at 2015-2-24 02:53
shini urahara = beast support ( you can 1 hit ryoka from wave 1 - 50 ++ ) if you are normal spender ...

you do use shini urahara for ryoka? what is your partner formation?

author: LadyKyojin time: 2015-3-1 16:11:14

shini urahara i go for, toshiro will rot away eventully tbh should be a tavern vg for level 100

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