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author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 15:45:14 Title: Who should I get from Xmas Carnival.

Edited by Desolutlon at 2018-12-21 15:52

Hey guys, I just need some help making a decision. I'm planning on getting at least 2 chars from xmas carnival. Rn my mind is telling me to grab Sternritter Uryu as an Assaulter and then grabbing Ginjo as a VG. What I can't decide on is whether Uryu is better than hvi.
Hvi gets his skill every turn so he's basically t1 and he does immense damage.
But Uryu has really good mods and a 400% skill.
so basically...Uryu or HVI...?
Current formation: Main, Ikakku, Kirinji, Shinso Gen, Toshiro.
Zan: Ryujin Jakka
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author: EdmondGzv time: 2018-12-21 15:51:19

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2018-12-21 15:53

200% is actually the skill of uryu.. after some debates here I decided to go for HVI+kokuto instead of BwB+Sternritter as I wanted initially. You can do hvi+bwb and add kokuto after, my hvi is 1.7m bp and have lower atk and phys def than the sternritter that the previously 1st in arena has, I didn't even added kokuto yet and I beat him like this-> He's faster, he have like 600k speed on stern and even faster bwb. Still, my hvi 1shots him, and he has 2.5m hp. My HVI have lvl 10-11 stamina and full block, full +10/11 and two 12 lvl str, and it tanks pretty well. 80 lvl gantz mod soul
So far i'm glad I picked HVI because I got from 3->1 in arena..
The importance of having such chars is to stack them. Between running a naked sternritter and having a stacked yhwach I would choose the second anytime. Just go for HVI+kokuto+(def/off booster supp) Kokuto and Haschwalth does great in terms of pvp/void.
As I told you, I studied their mods and bonds and everything and decided to go hvi+kokuto over stern+bwb

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 15:54:56

It's 200%?? I thought he got buffed to 400% because his skill was bugged? That growth rate alone is enough to make me choose HVI

author: EdmondGzv time: 2018-12-21 16:00:26

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2018-12-21 16:02

Change toshiro with hvi and kirinji with kokuto.
Now u want to decide if u're goona run 2-3-0 or 3-2-0. I would go for 2-3-0 with Cute Orihime-Kokuto-Ikkaku-HVI in pve and keep your shinso in pvp. renting a Cute orihime is, idk.. 100 gold a week, 150.
I heared that February UBP might be Shy Nemu. Complement ur team with Shy nemu-Kokuto-Ikkaku-HVI and then try to change Ikkaku.
Edit: 200% is uryuu

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author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 16:20:17

I see, so HVI is the obvious choice. So instead of getting Ginjo the broken VG I should go for a boost for HVI? What about Shin Daig Tosh btw

author: EdmondGzv time: 2018-12-21 17:04:51

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2018-12-21 17:08

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-21 16:20
I see, so HVI is the obvious choice. So instead of getting Ginjo the broken VG I should go for a boo ...

You can go SDT if u feel like it, but the freeze can be immuned and most chars are immune to fury detection, he gives enough dmg boost for the team and can still be exploited in void, idk for how much tho.
But, is fast naturally, however, ask yourself a question when you go for partners of this price range. Would I really see this partner in my end-game team formation? Ofc, a team made at the end of 2017 with the best partners is lacking compared with a 2018 one. However, things like Haschwalth, Yhwach...u name it are still good and can work. You need to know where are u aiming with ur team.
Kugo is "broken" only if u don't have enough dmg, as game progresses you'll find different problems in pvp, but an immortal kugo is only because someone on the other team lacks dmg. I was thinking myself of kugo as well, but we basically are 1-2 months away from new release who might be a VG.

One thing that people ignore when giving advice for formation/ building a formation is "who and what are you fighting" and u must know better wich formations are u up against and decide a little from there. Kugo is still very strong pick but needs tons of resources to be effective and, at your lvl i would focus getting a good supp + assaulter and build my team with a vg after

author: LordEranda time: 2018-12-21 17:05:53

Im having the same debate with muself now and would like a good explanation aswell. It seems hvi has more damage if kokuto is there. But if katen is there uryu could do more dmage i think and pairs well with katen. And uryu skill it says is 400% so that would mean 1200% with crit damage (160% frm katen and 40% from uryu mod)... i think. If so thats a lot. Hvi has 2 more atack mods over uryu but uryu seems to surpass with crit. Also uryu seems to tank well because of high aid rate from passive talent and mod.
Mu guess is uryu can tank longer while hvi is a bit squshy and unpredictable

author: Sylencer90 time: 2018-12-21 17:08:23

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author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 17:13:09

Sylencer90 replied at 2018-12-21 17:08
Do not bother with HVI. Uryuu is the only Assaulter to consider getting for now.

Wait really? I'm being told 2 different things now. So I should get URYU?

author: Sylencer90 time: 2018-12-21 17:19:48

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author: EdmondGzv time: 2018-12-21 17:27:36

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-21 17:13
Wait really? I'm being told 2 different things now. So I should get URYU?

Is a matter of strategy, at your level I would go for HVI+kokuto because you can help yourself better with this combo And u save 1 place in your team. If you go BwB+Stern U would be tempted to go for Muken. Mostly because stern gives muken 40% ignore defense and 40% crit damage. BwB+Stern+Muken can potentially be better in terms of how they complement each other. BwB, boosting atk and giving block and shield for Muken and Stern is a good strat. Sternritter alone with BwB is good, but in my opinion HVI with Kokuto is better from what I'm seeing on your acc. You can always get BwB+HVI and add Kokuto later.
At your level, getting a BwB+HVI might be even better than going for the Kokuto combo.

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 17:29:26

Edited by Desolutlon at 2018-12-21 17:34

I didn't mean to spam this sorry.

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 17:31:54

Edited by Desolutlon at 2018-12-21 17:35

Oops sorry, I had no idea my messages were sending

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-21 17:32:49

EdmondGzv replied at 2018-12-21 13:51
200% is actually the skill of uryu.. after some debates here I decided to go for HVI+kokuto instead ...

It's nice to see some players actually thought of a good team build, way to go.

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-21 17:34:28

Sylencer90 replied at 2018-12-21 17:19
From my personal thoughts and the BR's i've seen (and possible ways to get shit on) .
I do not rec ...

Can you tell me exactly how URYU is better? Is his skill actually 400% or is it 200%? I'm so lost now idek

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-21 17:35:13

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-21 15:29
Could you explain exactly how Uryu is better than HVI. Is his skill actually 400%?

If you want a team that you can use all around PvP + PvE, HVI + kokuto is the way to go.

If you just want pure PvP, you can go ahead and go with the nerd+BWB.

author: EdmondGzv time: 2018-12-21 17:38:41

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-21 17:32
It's nice to see some players actually thought of a good team build, way to go.

Going for HVI in my situation boosted me 2 places in arena 3->1 against 2 stern users, one of them who has 500k bp more than my hvi and I didn't even add kokuto yet, depending on when and how Bankai Mayuri will be realeased i'm gonna complement my team with him 70-80% because I got a good feeling about him.

author: LordEranda time: 2018-12-21 18:02:57

Edited by LordEranda at 2018-12-21 18:16

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-21 17:34
Can you tell me exactly how URYU is better? Is his skill actually 400% or is it 200%? I'm so lost ...

Im pretty sure its 400%. Unless he was nerfed recently. Im just saying it from what i see in the forum and wiki. The skill description in some servers may not have been properly edited. I dunno, since you have shinso and if combo is active you maybe able to get uryu to skill every turn as well. But with the current look of void it seems a bit hard to get him to 2m speed, and that is maybe why deemen said he is good for pvp only. If not i dont see any reason for hvi to outdamage uryu (considering kokuto is not there)Edit: If uryu fury crits thats 75 fury instead of 50 i think. With shinso it is very likely he can skill every turn

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-21 19:57:47

EdmondGzv replied at 2018-12-21 15:38
Going for HVI in my situation boosted me 2 places in arena 3->1 against 2 stern users, one of them ...

You will beat them sooner or later. Keep up the good work.

author: mayuri1177 time: 2018-12-21 20:11:18

Uryu's normal skill is 400% damage. His exclusive skill is 200/300/400%.

author: ichmkami time: 2018-12-21 20:18:41

I'd say get HIV

author: LordEranda time: 2018-12-21 21:05:19

EdmondGzv replied at 2018-12-21 17:38
Going for HVI in my situation boosted me 2 places in arena 3->1 against 2 stern users, one of them ...

Does ichigo's 6th mod (shield and speed boost) get activated on Zampaktou hit? or does an enemy partner needs to hit him after zampaktou?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-21 21:12:17

LordEranda replied at 2018-12-21 19:05
Does ichigo's 6th mod (shield and speed boost) get activated on Zampaktou hit? or does an enemy pa ...

If the mod say "When receiving dmg" it activates on zanpakuto hit. If the mod say "when being atk" it only activate when a partner attacked.

author: LordEranda time: 2018-12-21 21:14:43

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-21 21:12
If the mod say "When receiving dmg" it activates on zanpakuto hit. If the mod say "when being atk" ...

oohh i see. didn't know that. that's really useful. thanks mate. someone should put that on the wiki

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-21 21:17:56

LordEranda replied at 2018-12-21 19:14
oohh i see. didn't know that. that's really useful. thanks mate. someone should put that on the wi ...

np mate, anytime.

author: YoungsterJoey time: 2018-12-21 21:36:04

Hey mans

i am trying to decide as weell

i cam cross a gud guy on youtube who has a sick ginjy

lol he take like no damage

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-22 03:57:59

Decision is made. My verdict is HVI is definitely more all rounded. And due to the fact that I would be waiting another year for such a good top up event, I'll go HVI. Now all that's left is Ginji or Shin Daig Tosh

author: xb7gyahoo time: 2018-12-22 04:14:44

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-22 03:57
Decision is made. My verdict is HVI is definitely more all rounded. And due to the fact that I would ...

Remember, HVI does not ignore invincibility and is not immune to mutilate, and chaos. Stern is immune to chaos and ignores invincibility. Yukio or Hiki is enough to nullify a stacked HVI.
Edit1: Kokuto is not immune to fury deduction.

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-22 05:20:17

xb7gyahoo replied at 2018-12-22 02:14
Remember, HVI does not ignore invincibility and is not immune to mutilate, and chaos. Stern is immu ...

This is why you require a whole team to work together. Muken can finish the invincibility, shield to protect from chaos, not to mention he will create his own shield.

Kokuto deduct the other team's fury so its all good, and HVI require no fury to fire his shots. If you team up with BWB, it's all good to go.

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-22 05:24:21

YoungsterJoey replied at 2018-12-21 19:36
Hey mans

i am trying to decide as weell

It really depends on his opponent. Ginjo is not indestructable.

author: YoungsterJoey time: 2018-12-22 05:48:46

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-22 05:24
It really depends on his opponent. Ginjo is not indestructable.

do you have a ginjy?

is he helping you beat stronk guys

author: Swague time: 2018-12-22 13:28:56

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author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-22 14:15:24

DeEmEn replied at 2018-12-22 05:20
This is why you require a whole team to work together. Muken can finish the invincibility, shield ...

Do you think my second char should be Ginjo as a VG to compliment HVI or a Shin Daig Tosh?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-22 14:30:55

YoungsterJoey replied at 2018-12-22 03:48
do you have a ginjy?

is he helping you beat stronk guys

I don't need a VG to beat strong guys.

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-22 14:32:37

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-22 12:15
Do you think my second char should be Ginjo as a VG to compliment HVI or a Shin Daig Tosh?

I would get Kokuto to enhance the power of HVI. Ginjo can come after.

author: Desolutlon time: 2018-12-22 17:17:20

thanks for the help Deem and everyone else

author: YoungsterJoey time: 2018-12-22 17:30:05

Desolutlon replied at 2018-12-22 17:17
thanks for the help Deem and everyone else

You welcome my bruddah

we can all helpeach other

author: jokergang time: 2018-12-23 14:29:57

Kukuto vs BWB, Who to get? Why?

author: DeEmEn time: 2018-12-23 15:22:16

jokergang replied at 2018-12-23 12:29
Kukuto vs BWB, Who to get? Why?

It really depends on your team. BWB is a great partner for PvP and some PvE.

Kokuto is more of all around partner.

author: [email protected] time: 2018-12-27 23:24:55

So who to get from Christmas event? running SDT, Hiki, Noble Isane, and Muken now with Kyoka as Zanpakto ?

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