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author: BleachGoffd time: 2019-1-28 13:42:14 Title: Void again

400+ Accuracy, thank you for not getting to the boss. Best game

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 14:04:35

you simply don't have enough atk....

author: BleachGoffd time: 2019-1-28 14:16:52

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-28 14:04
you simply don't have enough atk....

http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightrep ... ;t=1&lang=ru_RU
Really ?

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 14:20:33

Edited by DeEmEn at 2019-1-28 12:36

BleachGoffd replied at 2019-1-28 12:16
http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightreport/?rid=563084646108457&aid=67&t=1&lang=ru_RU
Really ?

LOL wow.... don't ask me lol! It's totally different from our current US one. Plus, it did not remove debuff... So it is russian side dev that messed this up.
It's hard to tell just from SS you know.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-28 14:25:25

You could literally only kill it with dots.

author: shadowfane time: 2019-1-28 16:24:37

Just looks like the programers being lazy and inept again to me like normal

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 16:27:26

shadowfane replied at 2019-1-28 14:24
Just looks like the programers being lazy and inept again to me like normal

Russian version is different, some of their staff probably messed with the setting. If they want to blame, blame it on the Russian staff. =]

author: shadowfane time: 2019-1-28 16:29:43

I blame the whole thing on them being to lazy to fix things correctly. They were to lazy and inept to make it where it was control only got taken out instead decided to take out control debuffs and dot. I stand by my statement of lazy and inept

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 17:20:58

shadowfane replied at 2019-1-28 14:29
I blame the whole thing on them being to lazy to fix things correctly. They were to lazy and inept ...

Their original intention is, no debuff should work on PvE bosses... They DID fix how things are meant to be.

author: shadowfane time: 2019-1-28 17:28:08

ok so that covers maybe 2 of 3 and I say maybe because I still call bull. Your story is changing as you get called on it. No debuff still doesn't cover DOT's which isn't a debuff but part of the damage said hero does.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 17:40:32

shadowfane replied at 2019-1-28 15:28
ok so that covers maybe 2 of 3 and I say maybe because I still call bull. Your story is changing as ...

DoT is a damage the by-pass defenses to do damage. It's not a real damage. Sorry.

DoT = By-pass defense.
Freeze = By-pass offense.

Same deal. My story never changed.

author: raiedecha time: 2019-1-28 17:42:38

In literally every other game ever dot is a debuff... why would this be any different

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 18:05:03

1. If someone abused freeze they still got their goods, resources and etc.
2. 3mil defense and no one explain clearly how damage is meant to work in void beside 2m atk and 250-300% modify
3. Why I'm not able to debuff the 3mil defense? Because no poison, no ignite, no stun, nothing the only meaning to beat void is pure stupidly strength, need no brain, no strategy for void. Just pure strength. And when comes that strength? VIP 10 with 15m bp scratch void.
Take example from this guy, he has 4.6m bp muken, idc if he's vip 0 or something, he can't hit only because he only have 1.7m atk. he have 70% dmg rate from noble, 50% from shy nemu. I call this more than enough to get little to something dmg. How many players have what this guy have?

No need for a strategy when doing void is just a little reward for people that had an account earlier than others, nothing much.

And most important thing for me, when there is gonna be an offline event wich isn't a lottery for poor people?

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 18:30:53

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 16:05
1. If someone abused freeze they still got their goods, resources and etc.
2. 3mil defense and no o ...

1. VR is now weak enough for you to do some dmg.
2. Just debuffing is part of strategy? I don't see any strategy in there, except for stacking all the debuff you can to cover your lack of strength. But I do agree to leave some debuff on for weaker players to do damage, but PvE bosses are meant to have 0 debuff.
3. You should look at his BR lol, it's not about his atk and dmg rate.

Strategy? It's just a poor excuse for easier VR.

Offline events are already running, are you missing out?

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 18:57:33

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-28 19:02

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-28 18:30
1. VR is now weak enough for you to do some dmg.
2. Just debuffing is part of strategy? I don't se ...

1. not in my realm, no one can hurt void.
2. Yeah debuffing is a part of strategy, I agree that things like freeze and poison can be exploited but that's all about it, buffing void constantly and nerfing just their speed/atk isn't doing much for people than have less than 10m bp. PVE bosses are meant to have 0 debuff just in this game, in any rpgs or mmorpgs, or strategy games you have races/classes meant only to buff your allies and debuff enemies.
3. I didn't watched the br, idc about a free team made from cbs shop and ubp, he's lacking ofc, but that shouldn't mean he have a weak team that can't even scratch void. there is a lot of grinding done in that team and a lot of time spent and i think is quite depressing to work that much and see you can't do nothing. Vip 0 accounts are my heroes in this game

Indeed you can call them offline events, but I only see a lottery for poor people in wich I was interested only when it had top-up cards and excl. frags.

Edit: I watched the br and is just too painful to watch, that void is older and bugged wtf

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-28 19:05:02

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 18:05
1. If someone abused freeze they still got their goods, resources and etc.
2. 3mil defense and no o ...

>3
You were here but you might want to recheck his question and the answers for that.
You took how the damage rate works wrong, it just increases the final damage (after the defense is counted) not the base attack, meaning if the muken has 1.7m ATK and void 3m DEF, he will deal 1~8 damage whatever it pops with 150% damage, if Muken had 250% DMG instead he would deal 2~16 because with 100% more DMG he deals twice his final damage.
The DMG means nothing if you have NO attack to surpass 3m DEF, you need more than 3m ATK then you may consider having DMG buff.
If the guy had Isane or Hiki for a 50% ATK buff and an extra 25% from the bonus partner, he would have more than 3m ATK and start damaging rawly.

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 19:23:09

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-28 19:28

Potdenutella replied at 2019-1-28 19:05
>3
You were here but you might want to recheck his question and the answers for that.
You took how ...

I recognize my mistake, I said 2mil physical and 250-300% modify when thing were certain different. Agree with all you've said.
Then I'm gonna be subjective and bring up hvi in this discussion.
Hvi skills every turn so his dmg will be like this: ( attack - enemy's defense) x ( dmg rate - enemy's imm rate) x 300% from growth rate x2 if critical? + how fury "overflow" works?

Still, if I have 40% atk from kokoto and 50% from bwb are those adding to the base atk? with 1 mil atk from these 2 modifiers alone is 1.9m? indeed doing this first with 40 and then 50 and vice-versa brings up 2 different results so, i tend to think that they add to the base. Something like attack=1m +(1m x 40)/100 + (1m x 50)/100 =1.9m attack is the correct answer?

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-28 19:36:56

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 20:32:24

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 16:57
1. not in my realm, no one can hurt void.
2. Yeah debuffing is a part of strategy, I agree that thi ...

Well, you bring the debate back to square one, and every problem will be repeating itself. Like I said, though, I do agree to leave poison and burn to let weaker players to do some damage. But if you can't find a way to boost your dmg, there's nothing we can do because the dev are too lazy to code in immunity. I am also a victim of removing some legit debuff also, cuz I do less damage because of that. But instead of begging for bringing debuff back, I strengthen my team and boost the atk and dmg rate. You grind a lot doesnt mean you deserve some damage, tbh. My alt grind as much as my main account, doesnt mean I give up on trying to do some damages.

Oh, you are only interested in top-up cards and exclusive frags? so sad. There won't be any top up cards in the future. Only in special occasion.

His void is not bugged, someone messed with setting and dodge is super high.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 20:34:56

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 17:23
I recognize my mistake, I said 2mil physical and 250-300% modify when thing were certain different. ...

Kokuto buff for HVI is currently not functional. If HVI exclusive is on, it will receive no buff.

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 20:50:55

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-28 20:55

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-28 20:32
Well, you bring the debate back to square one, and every problem will be repeating itself. Like I ...

I think you missed the point of what I was interested in, an actually good offline event.
the kokuto buff is unfunctional only on void?
edit: yea it's only for void

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 20:52:16

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-28 19:36
no you fool there is no strategy in debuffing and making a team work together

.......but stacking ...

Guess i'm just a filthy casual

author: shadowfane time: 2019-1-28 20:58:36

goes back to my programmers are to lazy and inept

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-28 21:00:04

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 21:09:39

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 18:52
Guess i'm just a filthy casual

you can be a normal casual, doesn't have to be filthy.

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-28 21:14:34

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 18:50
I think you missed the point of what I was interested in, an actually good offline event.
the koku ...

Having an offline event that players requested is already a gift.

Before: Why don't we have offline event like Spanish/German server!?!?

Now: Have offline events, more frequent than Spanish/German servers
Prize aren't good enough!

Give me a break. Let's be honest... Nothing will satisfy you guys until GoGames give out a ton of better crap, so you don't have to spend money to be on equal ground with those that did spend a lot.

You don't have to participate, give more chances for others, and they get what you can't get every week.

author: Ace_BleachOnline time: 2019-1-28 22:11:40

128 silver per hit, not worth staying for an hour

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 23:06:46

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-28 21:14
Having an offline event that players requested is already a gift.

Before: Why don't we have offli ...

Agree, that's why I didn't participate.
this is offline event: http://forums.gogames.me/thread-127958-1-1.html
this is wtf: http://forums.gogames.me/thread-128078-1-1.html

author: EdmondGzv time: 2019-1-28 23:13:31

Edited by EdmondGzv at 2019-1-28 23:19

DeEmEn replied at 2019-1-28 21:14
Having an offline event that players requested is already a gift.

Before: Why don't we have offli ...

Of course I can't be satisfied with an offline event that doesn't help me even if I won first prize. because the resources are too bad, let's ignore this.
Things like between 5-12 November top-up 1k to get rewards for that day, or idk. between 6-8 top-up 15k and get a free someone, something. not write your name here and wait 1 week for 500 bonds frags if you're the lucky nr 1..

Edit: that doesn't mean i'm not grateful for the 150% rebate that keeps happening in the game wich is good, and the prizes that people are earning on forum. But I remember crying a lot on forum for them and now after a month has passed I didn't enjoy any 1 of the offline events.

author: [email protected] time: 2019-1-28 23:36:26

On that 400% hit rating... only for your servers might be having that problem. US ones tested today 101% hit rating will hit 100%. Was testing setups since couldn't damage void much today... I can see why so many are mad 1.5 mil attack or even 2 mil doesn't do much damage. You need big pockets to get all the right team to drop the def-% and boost your damage enough to even put out some amount of damage these days. Sure dots and affects had to be nerfed because of what happened but now pointless to even play void if your not willing to burn alot of $$$ for the perfect setup. Today was luck to do 384 per hit worth of damage since only 1 target and the burn would be cleared off the bat. Since we can't take off MC no way to be low enough speed to not clear the debuffs. Can't lower hit rating enough to miss so can't clear the debuffs. Can't boost damage enough to make chair aizen do any reasonable damage. Thou def stacking you might take his aoe and land more hits. If gogames wants to make more $$ throw players a bone and stop making it seem like nothing the players do will add much into the game.

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-29 00:15:08

EdmondGzv replied at 2019-1-28 19:23
I recognize my mistake, I said 2mil physical and 250-300% modify when thing were certain different. ...

>x2 if critical?
A critical is x1.5 of the normal damage, x1.7 for HVI since he has a mod boosting everyone critical damage by 20%.

>how fury "overflow" works?
For each point of fury above 100 you gain a damage bonus of 0.25%, example with 150 fury you have a bonus of 12.5%. The cap of fury is over 500 and the bonus is 100%.

>if I have 40% atk from kokoto and 50% from bwb are those adding to the base atk?
Close ! The attack is shattered in 3 parts: Halo, Buff and Bonus (from Ryoka, Void...) :

If there are two of the same source, they add themself, let's simply take Kokuto and B.Kenny :
1m * (1.4 + 1.2) = 1.6m. Because you combine B.Kenny halo with Kokuto to make a simple 60%.

If there are two of different source, they multiply themself, in the case of Kokuto and BWB :
1m * 1.4 * 1.5 = 2.1m. Because one is a halo and the other is a buff. It would be 1.9m as you said if both were halos.

Did I answer all your questions, need more clarity ?

author: StormShield time: 2019-1-29 02:04:58

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 03:36
no you fool there is no strategy in debuffing and making a team work together

.......but stacking ...

Ie , Motto Motto Motto..

author: jackthehorn time: 2019-1-29 02:33:40

Potdenutella replied at 2019-1-29 06:15
>x2 if critical?
A critical is x1.5 of the normal damage, x1.7 for HVI since he has a mod boosting ...

Good thing i missed the void, so nothing to add upon experience.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 09:53:57

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 16:45:12

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 07:53
No one on cares about giving you anything adequate on this game

aside from UBP which was changed ...

The whole point is... You guys asked for Offline Event just like the other platform did.

Ok, GoGames gives you offline event. Prizes are even better and more frequent than that said platform gives.

Try to appreciate what they are doing. 500 bond frags is better than 0 bond frags.

Feel free to avoid this, which benefits other players that appreciates and participates.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 18:25:13

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 18:46:26

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 16:25
No 500 bond frags is beyond crap but thats just par for the course on the cUckS side of things

if ...

They are the stuff people required to upgrade their partners....

Do you not use bond fragments to upgrade your bonds?

Whatever that they are giving out are used in daily basis...

I know for a fact that Spanish/German side run their offline event the same way, every 2 weeks. Unlike us, every week. They only draw 3 out of all their participants in the event. So, GoGames offline events are already better.

I am not trying to protect them or anything, just from what I am seeing.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 18:52:31

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 19:05:14

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 16:52
that is the circumstance of games with different providers

Oh, so it's an upgrade and you don't use it. Cool. Personal preferences I guess.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 19:14:20

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author: theunknown404 time: 2019-1-29 19:36:24

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 19:14
yeah ignore teh cost of a lvl one

upgrade

People are still signing up for it even if 500 bond frags are a drop in a bucket for people more experienced with the game, so it must not be bothering them too much. The event would not exist if people did not participate after all.

Let's be honest. These free events are not necessarily for veterans. For a beginner, even only 500 bond frags can be a struggle, and the developers love appealing to new players most of all.

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-1-29 19:48:54

To be fair this game requires such amount of grinding that if you play for free every little thing helps, sure they aren't particularly generous but that does not take much time to register

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 19:49:19

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 17:14
yeah ignore teh cost of a lvl one

upgrade

I would, it's better than nothing lol. I know the prizes are kinda cheap, but even I tried to boost up the prize for a bit.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 19:58:24

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 20:08:14

theunknown404 replied at 2019-1-29 17:36
People are still signing up for it even if 500 bond frags are a drop in a bucket for people more e ...

I will take any free stuff to make me improve. Even if it's only a little step, I am still ahead of the me that didn't get anything.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 20:12:15

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-29 20:17:43

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-29 18:12
cant side with peeps who give scraps and call the rewards

VN gives better stuff

If things are so easily to come by, it won't make your efforts feel special.

Just like if everyone gets Jakka (obviously a better zanpakuto) who is gonna use the other zan? How will Jakka's users stands out from the crowd with the advantage it gives to the user?

Anyways, you have your opinions, I respect that.

author: [email protected] time: 2019-1-29 20:31:20

Well I'm not one to give up but void the way it is now ... total waste of time for most servers. Might as well just lock in who is 1st give them all the stuff or close to it. And everyone else 1-10mil silver 50 cp and just call it a day. Till they can really balance it out.

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-1-29 20:34:12

theunknown404 replied at 2019-1-29 19:36
People are still signing up for it even if 500 bond frags are a drop in a bucket for people more e ...

*win 500 bond frags*
HAHA TOP NUMBER ONE SUPREME VICTORY I'M DA KING NOW HAHAHAHA
*new offline event pops in with 100 times better rewards*
NO NO NOOOOOO WHY THE FUCK THERE IS A CD WHO DESIGNATED THAT SHIT SYSTEM AAAAAAAA LET ME IN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-29 20:49:16

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author: Ace_BleachOnline time: 2019-1-29 22:08:48

totally agree on the bond frags reward, most players could get more than 500 daily. offline event rewards went downhill real fast
you could even see by the number of people who registered, gets less and less by the time

author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-30 01:47:40

Ace_BleachOnline replied at 2019-1-29 20:08
totally agree on the bond frags reward, most players could get more than 500 daily. offline event re ...

Anyhow, if you guys don't appreciate what's being given out, then you simply don't have to participate. It's simple like that. Those that do participate actually glad the numbers are dropping, means higher chance to get free stuff.

Little > none.

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-30 11:48:41

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author: DeEmEn time: 2019-1-30 15:12:02

Devvoke2 replied at 2019-1-30 09:48
yeah we appreciate it just a much as the creators appreciate the players by giving us crap they ob ...

*hint hint* that person in charge can see this lol... (not me)

author: Devvoke2 time: 2019-1-30 16:20:26

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