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author: JucieYXD time: 2019-3-11 13:58:38 Title: Elegant Unohana any good??

Any thoughts on her?

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-3-11 14:08:34

not bad u may try her on vietnameese servers for free day 5 reward of server;

she deducts fury and put a shield on whole team plus she heals herself; she's a smaller version of hach regarding the shield;

do u plan on buying her?

whats ur team

author: 15mdr02 time: 2019-3-11 17:41:23

If you run an assaulter heavy team formation she is pretty good. She gives 25% attack and speed to your assaulters plus a shield which is nice. If you can get her going first you can knock out t1 enemy characters as long as they don't have a fury deduction resistance and even if some keep their t1, the 25% speed buff combined with her enemy speed reduction halo of -12% speed can get you going before the enemy sometimes as well. She can also lower enemy physical defense when hit (50% affliction on entire enemy team) so that can be a bonus as well granted your team can survive to utilize it

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-11 18:48:04

15mdr02 replied at 2019-3-11 17:41
If you run an assaulter heavy team formation she is pretty good. She gives 25% attack and speed to ...

-50% physical defense on attacker, but it may be bugged in Tournament of Throne still.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-11 18:48:45

adnane.bek replied at 2019-3-11 14:08
not bad u may try her on vietnameese servers for free day 5 reward of server;

she deducts fury and ...

She heals the partner with the lowest HP...which often ends up being herself or main character.

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-11 18:51:37

She's basically Blood War Byakuya beta version, except the distance between her speed and the assaulter's boosted speed is not as wide of a gap.

author: sivern time: 2019-3-11 23:58:52

does she remove all debuffs like kyoka?????

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-3-12 08:33:03

sivern replied at 2019-3-11 23:58
does she remove all debuffs like kyoka?????

Nah, Kyoka was the first dispeller to be introduced and she came years after Elegant.

author: Ichigobankai2 time: 2019-3-12 09:23:26

sivern replied at 2019-3-12 06:58
does she remove all debuffs like kyoka?????

No, I do not think she can remove ignite

author: 15mdr02 time: 2019-3-12 09:39:55

theunknown404 replied at 2019-3-11 18:48
-50% physical defense on attacker, but it may be bugged in Tournament of Throne still.

you right. Thank you for the correction. I totally misread it

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-12 09:43:48

Shield has been visually removing ignite recently, but that's a visual bug.

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-3-12 10:07:34

theunknown404 replied at 2019-3-11 18:48
She heals the partner with the lowest HP...which often ends up being herself or main character. :l ...

hahahahahahahha, damn useful isnt it

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-12 10:08:53

adnane.bek replied at 2019-3-12 10:07
hahahahahahahha, damn useful isnt it

yee

author: Gorgish time: 2019-3-12 11:45:22

I have Kirinji, kisuke urahara, Shin Ishin and Komamura.
Should i get Elegant unohana or should i wait for smth better

author: theunknown404 time: 2019-3-12 12:05:45

Gorgish replied at 2019-3-12 11:45
I have Kirinji, kisuke urahara, Shin Ishin and Komamura.
Should i get Elegant unohana or should i w ...

I would mostly recommend Elegant Unohana for somebody with a very destructive and fast assaulter like Yhwach. If your formation relies on the assaulter a lot, then she might be a good fit. Her full-team shield and anti-support halo are still nice, however.

author: Gorgish time: 2019-3-12 13:09:39

theunknown404 replied at 2019-3-12 12:05
I would mostly recommend Elegant Unohana for somebody with a very destructive and fast assaulter l ...

i plan to buy RJ zanpakuto and i will probably only get characters from UBP because i dont plan to top up tons of gold. I will just do the Bankai Power each month and wait to get more gold.
Just thought how could i improve my current formation.
i m lvl 103, vip5, have 5 ult equipment and 1.1 mil bp

author: JucieYXD time: 2019-3-12 15:00:26

adnane.bek replied at 2019-3-11 14:08
not bad u may try her on vietnameese servers for free day 5 reward of server;

she deducts fury and ...

I have YHwach, Yama, Kinji and TSI..

author: sivern time: 2019-3-12 21:10:37

Potdenutella replied at 2019-3-12 08:33
Nah, Kyoka was the first dispeller to be introduced and she came years after Elegant.

(clear all debuff and immune from control) What does it mean by this? if she cant clear debuffs then she is not good to replace hiki and noble isane in my formation?

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-12 21:43:51

Edited by SolKnight at 2019-3-12 21:47

sivern replied at 2019-3-12 21:10
(clear all debuff and immune from control) What does it mean by this? if she cant clear debuffs th ...

shield can help control debuffs such as stun and whatnot. it does not apply to all it has some other functionality as well but her own shield is to weak for that. even though support shields are weaker in general her 5% would be removed more often than not so if you want to rely on her for that alone not worth it, a usefull add on that can be used with certain strats but not always and considering you have hiki and noble the real reason to use her is to lower enemy support speed with halo and 25% speed for assaulter in exchange for invic and 25% extra attack from hiki or for nobles def halo and other usefull mods and damage rate. In easy words worth using for you if you have a support whos speed/bulk you can match and is giving you trouble.

As an added note cause i know someone will be wondering yes if you break the shielld mid attack the control effect will still take place so her shield is only usefull for after you have taken the first hit and need to clear something off your team(granted she herself is not debuffed).
Edit:A thing i forget to add she is not really that fast compared to other supports nor as bulky as some which is a major flaw for her. she is good and worth using by people but not every team will make her work smoothly and its worth it to opt for other boosters.

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-3-12 21:47:19

sivern replied at 2019-3-12 21:10
(clear all debuff and immune from control) What does it mean by this? if she cant clear debuffs th ...

Shield only clears the controls, some special shield cancels the controls (but the controls are back once the shield is broken) (don't quote me on that, it's just an imagination), but a shield that can clear controls AND debuffs is even more special... So nope only controls.

author: sivern time: 2019-3-12 22:59:21

SolKnight replied at 2019-3-12 21:43
shield can help control debuffs such as stun and whatnot. it does not apply to all it has some othe ...

good thing i use all my vit on SA then, i was thingking she can clear all debuffs like chaos, i wont get her then.i have hiki,noble, and the normal healer isane but atm i dont use normal isane

author: sivern time: 2019-3-12 23:00:27

Potdenutella replied at 2019-3-12 21:47
Shield only clears the controls, some special shield cancels the controls (but the controls are ba ...

thanks, i was thingking she can clear all debuffs lol, my bad

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-13 03:32:41

sivern replied at 2019-3-12 22:59
good thing i use all my vit on SA then, i was thingking she can clear all debuffs like chaos, i wo ...

It can remove chaos but as i have said her own shield is weaker than paper if you wanna risk speed manipulation vs every enemy for chaos management can work but i can guarantee you will not work 100% of the time for her atleast.

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-3-13 14:28:13

JucieYXD replied at 2019-3-12 15:00
I have YHwach, Yama, Kinji and TSI..

well i see u use a 1 3 1 tteam, well she does fit on that set up , however the best support on that set up would be byakuya;

to sum up if she comes around in UBP why not give her a shot if not dont wast ur gold on her better support than her starting by noble isane

author: JucieYXD time: 2019-3-13 15:51:05

adnane.bek replied at 2019-3-13 14:28
well i see u use a 1 3 1 tteam, well she does fit on that set up , however the best support on tha ...

Hmmmm....i think ill wait for another UBP character....thanks

author: adnane.bek time: 2019-3-14 15:22:01

JucieYXD replied at 2019-3-13 15:51
Hmmmm....i think ill wait for another UBP character....thanks

yeh i'm doing the same also, so far the best UBP team that came around is

ywatch noble isane shy nemu ichibe katen as zan i would say

i hope for kukaku bazz b or soi feng red

author: Chihiro135 time: 2019-3-17 04:09:13

theunknown404 replied at 2019-3-12 19:05
I would mostly recommend Elegant Unohana for somebody with a very destructive and fast assaulter l ...

I'm using Hiki, Shinso Gin, Yhwach and TSI. Shinso can be a pain because of the yellow status (can't use red hogu's) and his stats aren't as good as my red partners. Good idea to get elegant unohana and replace shinso?

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-17 05:18:24

Chihiro135 replied at 2019-3-17 04:09
I'm using Hiki, Shinso Gin, Yhwach and TSI. Shinso can be a pain because of the yellow status (can ...

I say go for it.
She is a good support and seeing as you have yhwach i will assume he is your main focus and for PVP her speed buff is great for a quick nuke like him ontop of which she has a few mods that cover yhwachs and your teams weaknesses such as being fury deduct immune and having a mod that has a chance to regen 100 fury while deducing enemy fury as well as a few other things like her anti support halo and she is defo among the stronger UBP supps if you ask my personal opinion the 3rd best we had so far.

author: Bindus time: 2019-3-17 06:56:45

ill get her only for the speed bond on my Noble Isane. Beside collection option, she ain't that good

author: Potdenutella time: 2019-3-17 07:20:21

>not picking Elegant for swimsuit waifu collection

author: Bindus time: 2019-3-17 07:44:55

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-17 10:34:41

OK let me try to give a decent analysis for people who want to be sure if you should get her or not cause i know alot of people are having that question and cannot be sure.

Positives:
+immune to fury deduction. Very important for the support role otherwise it is really easy to shut you down and make most of your use null.
+12% Attack and speed drop for enemy supports:Well its a good halo no mattter how you look at it so another pro.
+AoE shield a weak one but has uses against some setups with certain strats which is rare for UBP partners as the only partner without ex skill to give that from UBP or CSB shop so far has been Yhwach.
+Aoe fury deduct so yeah ruins enemy T1s all the way a good disruption ability.
+25% attack and Speed you can argue that there are supports that give more attack but seeing 25% attack is the best what any zan gives so far i.e:does not ruin that + the speed and seeing as she is slow in her own teams regard while still nefing enemy supports to be slower its possible to make moderate assaulters act before enemy supports which are usually the only chars you should be concerned about outspeeding so PVP wise this is a superior trade off, in PVE would still with a 50% booster if you even have one to begin with.
+Easy to obtain and activate bonds which is rare for a UBP partner and these are good ones that can effect her speed and suitability to which is always a bonus.
+Has a 25% chance to regen 100 fury for a char on team, not always usefull but has both PVP and PVE applications that can assist in situations.

Negatives:
-Her shield though good is rather weak and not easy to break so you will have to arrange her speed to go after enemy disrupter or be close to the assaulter, not immpossible but can cause inconvenience.
-her EX skill is not worth looking to much into compared to normal skill.

So verdict:If you are someone with an assaulter focus she is probably one of the best supports UBP will offer for you your team does not need to be assaulter heavy either you have have a good and fast assaulter, its ideal to use her with nuke assaulter formations.If you dont have any attack boosters period she is also a very good pick since her 25% attack is nothing to scoff at and 50% attack boosters are rare aswell so for a new player she is a definite must if you are new do get her since a booster is always good.As for my personal opinion the only supports that are better than her from UBP so far have been noble isane and shy nemu with hiki having several cons in comparison as far as PVP is concerned which makes elegant the bettter pick overall however for PVP that 50% attack is a superior choice.Not every team can make her work ofc like i said she is assaulter focus but if you team is working with atleast even a half decent assaulter she will show results.

author: Chihiro135 time: 2019-3-18 02:45:19

hmm don't suppose anyone has any idea who's coming in UBP after her? That's also a bit of a defining factor in whether I'll get Elegant

author: Chihiro135 time: 2019-3-19 04:17:48

SolKnight replied at 2019-3-17 12:18
I say go for it.
She is a good support and seeing as you have yhwach i will assume he is your main ...

what are the best supps to get then if she's only 3rd best we've had in UBP?

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-19 04:23:16

Chihiro135 replied at 2019-3-19 04:17
what are the best supps to get then if she's only 3rd best we've had in UBP?

I say both shy nemu and noble isane are superior supports to her but the thing is both of those 2 work really well with elegant uno so you can use them. You can make an argument for hiki but she is not as good as people think she is and is rather outdated overall.

author: Autopsyst time: 2019-3-20 02:01:49

currently running TSI/Yhwach/Main/Noble Isane/Hikifune with Katen (Hiki goes first)
any point of getting Uno and switching Hiki with her?

author: rugalb666 time: 2019-3-20 02:30:28

Autopsyst replied at 2019-3-20 08:01
currently running TSI/Yhwach/Main/Noble Isane/Hikifune with Katen (Hiki goes first)
any point of get ...

No point : Unohana is already my waifu

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author: Chihiro135 time: 2019-3-20 02:54:20

SolKnight replied at 2019-3-19 11:23
I say both shy nemu and noble isane are superior supports to her but the thing is both of those 2 ...

yes I thought noble isane was better...maybe I'll just wait and see if they come around again, don't want to blow all my vit on someone that's not going to drastically improve my form. I know Hiki was the best a long time ago, but at the moment she's still the main force winning some battles for me by getting in that first attack. Basically her and Yhwach are doing most of the job in my form lol, Shinso is just coming along giving fury to everyone.

That said I have been obliterated by some people's OP shinsos, so old partners aren't always bad, depends on how they're built

author: SolKnight time: 2019-3-20 03:16:01

Edited by SolKnight at 2019-3-20 03:18

Chihiro135 replied at 2019-3-20 02:54
yes I thought noble isane was better...maybe I'll just wait and see if they come around again, don ...

Its up to you but do remmber that just like noble may not come around again, there is always the same chance for unohana.
Edit:Also i do say better but elegant is kinda diffirent booster as in she has seperate things that she boosts and noble boosts diffirent attributes.

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