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author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 09:08:12 Title: The most efficient assualter skill in PvP?

Edited by Curls88 at 2015-2-26 08:09

Who do you think has the most efficient skill for PvP and why?

Yamamto Skill: Attack all enemy, growth rate 150%, dot (burn) the enemies for three turns (growth rate 25%). Among the enemies, three will be left in seal (unable to recover fury) and mangle (unable to heal)
Isshin Skill: Attack enemy assaulter, growth rate 190%, hollowfy* enemy assaulter for two turn, increase allies assaulter 35% combo rate, recover self fury by 100 point.
*Hollowfy: a type of cc, a hollowfied character unable to move/skill, and only vulnarble on skill attack
White Ichigo Skill: Attack all enemy, amp 180%, decrease all enemy 15% damage rate (three turns), increase allies assaulter 25% attack (three turns), recover self fury by 35.

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 11:12:27

Change isshins skill cause greedytrollgames nerfed him here -_- the skill you mentioned is used by isshin in the chinese version not here ....... and for the question i think Hichigo has the best skill cause 180% aoe growth skill is scary and he has agility talent which will make him faster than most partners....

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-26 11:25:14

Edited by Brahmastra at 2015-4-2 03:01

Isshin for sure, nerfed or unnerfed. The stun itself is amazing even without the 35% combo rate. A perfect char for PVE and PVP.
Yamamoto can be nice but you are screwed if one of those seals lands on a vanguard or a useless support. Besides that the character can still attack and I THINK the fury can still be refilled by Urahara, since there's always a loophole.
I don't think we have to talk about White Ichigo since most of us, if not all of us, will never get him. Unless by some miracle he shows up in UBP or 30k gold lolol.

aquivix:
"He stops any fury from being gained, even from fury generators. I've never seen anyone gain fury after my Yama gets that effect on them. If they have 100 fury, they skill but gain nothing back from my own experience with him. Perhaps the skill is bugging for others to allow fury to be gained? I can't confirm since I'm one of three in my CSB that has him."

author: ajoalex time: 2015-2-26 11:57:54

how is csb byakuya not here, that speed deduction is enough for your stunner support team to stun the hell out of them and yes the other assaulters to use their skill attacks .

we dont have original isshin and white ichigo in EU/US servers yet.

author: watman time: 2015-2-26 12:02:12

Has anyone gotten Yamaji and figured out whether his seal prevents support fury generators from giving mana back to those under seal?

I think White Ichigo is nice and all, but his skill buff will be over-written by Zans, or render some Zan buffs pointless.
It's almost like CSB Byakuya, except Bya is free and gives 100% combo rate

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 12:31:08

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-26 10:25
Isshin for sure, nerfed or unnerfed. The stun itself is amazing even without the 35% combo rate. A p ...

Yes but not everyone use urahara in formations.. does that mean yamamto always stop 3 partners/main from recovering fury and heal.. thats like no one can recover 50 fury.. Doesn't that make him the most OP for pvp since everyone kills with the '' fury skill '', (2 destroy the world can beat almost everyone)?

I would vote for Yamamto myself if what I said is correct but weird no one voted for him so maybe I am wrong with what I said

author: Eilisa time: 2015-2-26 12:48:29

Edited by Eilisa at 2015-2-26 11:53

Problem with Yama and most the partners in the formation is they are assaulters. Fastest chars in game are support even White ichigo is slower due to Muramasa zanpak (rei bonus is higher than Zangetsu) and Tensa (unsure of applied buff) which gives the highest intitial speed to support. White Ichigo mods well but would still be slower than an Ultima Aizen which would cripple assaulters since void isn't considered a stun. Can have the best dmg assaulters but if they can't act are no longer efficient overall and not worth gold for them.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-26 12:58:12

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 11:31
Yes but not everyone use urahara in formations.. does that mean yamamto always stop 3 partners/mai ...

No, you are right indeed but I guess people don't like the randomness of his skills? I also know you have him, or the other guy in your server, and yes he's a solid char.

At the end of the day it's all personal preference and it really depends on your formation.

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 13:17:11

Edited by Curls88 at 2015-2-26 12:18

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-26 11:58
No, you are right indeed but I guess people don't like the randomness of his skills? I also know y ...

I don't have him yet because I wasted my money on Gin, but I might get him later because compared to gin (he is completely free) and his skill is amazing but still not sure if he is the best for me.

My formation is/will be Demon Ichigo(later), Main, (the other a.ssaulter not sure yet), Shinso Gin and CSB Aizen(when enough stones), Zanpkt (Senbon).. so who do you think is the best a.ssaulter for me on this formation/zanpkt?
Actually I'm thinking of going with Ultimate Aizen instead of Gin but he will take much longer time .. so lets say my formation is just the one I wrote above..

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-26 13:52:41

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 12:17
I don't have him yet because I wasted my money on Gin, but I might get him later because compared t ...

HMA Aizen and Yamamoto is a crazy combo.
Aizen itself does some sort of status to the entire enemy team and Yamamoto will only make that effect stronger. I would almost say it's overkill haha.

Honestly after Senbon, Aizen, Yama and a main, with the right stones, I doubt any team will stand.

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 14:05:06

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-26 12:52
HMA Aizen and Yamamoto is a crazy combo.
Aizen itself does some sort of status to the entire enemy ...

Yeah, thats true.. but I still don't know what does Mugetsu skill really do.. is it only damage or he can do some nice cc too?

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 14:10:10

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-26 12:52
HMA Aizen and Yamamoto is a crazy combo.
Aizen itself does some sort of status to the entire enemy ...

Problem is senbon doesnt give anything to supports but if you rely on raw damage and have a offensive van then senbon is the best cause he give damage/attack buff to assaulters and vanguard...

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-2-26 14:13:29

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 13:05
Yeah, thats true.. but I still don't know what does Mugetsu skill really do.. is it only damage or ...

I'm not entirely sure what his stats are but his effect does give a random character an extra turn and 2 partners regain 25 fury.
I have a video though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXMYKRrR15w

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 14:28:46

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-2-26 13:10
Problem is senbon doesnt give anything to supports but if you rely on raw damage and have a offens ...

Do you mean it's better to go with 1-3-1 with senbon instead of 1-3-2?

So lets say those 2 fight with the same stones etc..

1. Demon Ichigo, Main, Yamamto, Mugetsu, Ultima Aizen Zankpt Senbon
VS
2. Demon Ichigo, Main, Yamamto, Ultima Aizen, CSB Aizen Zankpt Senbon

Who would win do you think? and who is better overall between those 2 setups?
Overall for PvP only I mean

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-2-26 14:36:58

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 13:28
Do you mean it's better to go with 1-3-1 with senbon instead of 1-3-2?

So lets say those 2 fight w ...

i think i would go wit 1 3 1

for more DMG in PVP

1. Demon Ichigo, Main, Yamamto, Mugetsu, Ultima Aizen Zankpt Senbon

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 14:37:11 Title: RE: The most efficient assualter skill in PvP?

PAOFUI replied at 2015-2-26 13:36
i think i would go wit 1 3 1

for more DMG in PVP

Agreed. .

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 14:45:57 Title: RE: The most efficient assualter skill in PvP?

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 13:28
Do you mean it's better to go with 1-3-1 with senbon instead of 1-3-2?

So lets say those 2 fight w ...

I think the 1st formation will destroy the 2nd one..... but i would put hichigo instead of yamaji.....cause in terms of damage and that formation ....even if your partners get to skill once it will destroy anything...and yes senbon will be the best zan for that formation...

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 14:54:33

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-2-26 13:45
I think the 1st formation will destroy the 2nd one..... but i would put hichigo instead of yamaji. ...

I guess you are right.. then I won't be needing yamamto.. I'll focus on those 5 to get.

I'll go with Demon Ichigo, Main, White ichigo, Mugetsu, Ultima Aizen Zankpt Senbon

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-26 14:55:34

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-2-26 13:56

PAOFUI replied at 2015-2-26 13:36
i think i would go wit 1 3 1

for more DMG in PVP

Mugetsu/Ishhin/Main

Shinso Gin/Dark Rukia or cute orihime

Zanpaktou- Senbonzakura

if you read the Mugetsu thread you can see the guy has 440k+ speed on mugetsu, with fury seal on supports and random 3 target fury reduc, ultima aizen is a joke

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 15:25:16 Title: RE: The most efficient assualter skill in PvP?

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-26 13:55
Mugetsu/Ishhin/Main

Shinso Gin/Dark Rukia or cute orihime

just asking is there any chance of him being an UBP reward x'D (i'm probably daydreaming X'D)

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-2-26 15:38:18 Title: RE: The most efficient assualter skill in PvP?

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 13:54
I guess you are right.. then I won't be needing yamamto.. I'll focus on those 5 to get.

I'll go ...

Mugetsu is undoubtedly the best character ingame at the time IMO http://forums.gogames.me/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5173&highlight=O.O ^check page number 4
EDIT:thanks yagami bruh

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-2-26 15:43:08

y is ultima aizen is a joke ?

care to elaborate ?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 15:59:41

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-26 13:55
Mugetsu/Ishhin/Main

Shinso Gin/Dark Rukia or cute orihime

Yes, but you said Isshin is nerfed in EU? and white ichigo is better than him for pvp? I would go Isshin if he isn't nerfed... and for Ultima Aizen if it's a joke.. I can just replace him with Gin(already have) or CSB Aizen since i'll have way more than enough challenge stones by that time

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-26 16:02:27

PAOFUI replied at 2015-2-26 14:43
y is ultima aizen is a joke ?

care to elaborate ?

I just did, mugetsu will kill it and silence it at the same time.

mugetsu>ultima aizen in the anime, it just makes sense.

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 16:02:39

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-26 15:02
I just did, mugetsu will kill it and silence it at the same time.

mugetsu>ultima aizen in the anim ...

but mugetsu is an assaulter, he will still do the same for any other supporter?

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-26 16:05:17

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-2-26 15:11

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 14:59
Yes, but you said Isshin is nerfed in EU? and white ichigo is better than him for pvp? I would go ...

nothing wrong with CSB aizen

yeah Isshin is nerfed, but the reason why I add him in there is because COMBO RATE BONUS

meaning even with nerf assaulters will attack twice, stack that with Mugetsu's combo rate on supports, they will end up going twice aswell

regening a cap of 37+37+45+45 = 164 fury every round, the more fury a partner has the more damage it's skill will do aswell

^ this set up is also super effective for ryoka/es, actually it's probably the strongest possible set up to get, unless kenpachi unohana is switched out for cute orihime for some 400% growth with combo xDD

i'm pve player at heart, so i'm not a fan of stunners, add the fact without VG in the group ultima aizen chaos ability isn't going to do anything xDDD

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-26 16:12:06

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 15:02
but mugetsu is an assaulter, he will still do the same for any other supporter?

I don't understand that question xD

author: Curls88 time: 2015-2-26 16:16:48

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-26 15:05
nothing wrong with CSB aizen

yeah Isshin is nerfed, but the reason why I add him in there is becau ...

Thats some sick thoughts, just explain how experienced you are ingame.
You make me rethink to take Isshin and retsu and ignore Aizen/white ichigo (I did ignore him/her the last event cuz he/she was expensive just like Gin price and I thought he/she only good for PvE) xD

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-2-26 16:47:24

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 15:16
Thats some sick thoughts, just explain how experienced you are ingame.
You make me rethink to take ...

you don't have to get retsu xD

but isshin is definetly awesome for any scenario

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-2-26 22:02:59

YagamiLi replied at 2015-2-26 15:02
I just did, mugetsu will kill it and silence it at the same time.

mugetsu>ultima aizen in the anim ...

well i would luv to get mugetsu... but he aint comin cheap... n i dun plan to spend anymore...

unless mugetsu comes out in UBP ...

ultima aizen at least there is a chance if i keep on playin ...

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-2-27 20:14:02

Curls88 replied at 2015-2-26 13:05
Yeah, thats true.. but I still don't know what does Mugetsu skill really do.. is it only damage or ...

i think mugetsu translation is more or less like this:
Mugetsu
Kurosaki Ichigo zanpakuto Zangetsu's final form, who defeated Aizen at the end.
Occupation: Ghost blade, Formation type: Assaulter
Talent: Getsuga, Skill: Final getsuga tensho

Skill explanation:
Attack all enemies growth rate 190%, randomly decrease 3 enemies fury by 10 points, silencing enemy's support for two turns, increase own support's combo rate by 35% for two turns, increase own and vanguard fury by 25 points.

STR 2300, growth rate 4.6
AGI 2200, growth rate 4.6
WIS 2000, growth rate 4.5
STA 7500, growth rate 5

his stamina is very high

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-4 13:57:46

Where is mugetsu?????

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-4 15:39:31

skill 10.. why it fken FREE!!!!!! YEH!!!!!!!!!

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-3-10 14:50:34

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-2-27 19:14
i think mugetsu translation is more or less like this:
Mugetsu
Kurosaki Ichigo zanpakuto Zangets ...

that is some effing op crap there

author: Aquivix time: 2015-4-2 02:56:54

Brahmastra replied at 2015-2-26 17:25
Isshin for sure, nerfed or unnerfed. The stun itself is amazing even without the 35% combo rate. A p ...

He stops any fury from being gained, even from fury generators. I've never seen anyone gain fury after my Yama gets that effect on them. If they have 100 fury, they skill but gain nothing back from my own experience with him. Perhaps the skill is bugging for others to allow fury to be gained? I can't confirm since I'm one of three in my CSB that has him.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-4-2 03:24:11

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-2 02:56
He stops any fury from being gained, even from fury generators. I've never seen anyone gain fury a ...

O cool thanks for clearing that up.
Sorry for asking again but could you possibly send a battlereport of him here or privately through pm if you want?
I'm still pretty interested in him.

author: Aquivix time: 2015-4-2 03:35:30

Brahmastra replied at 2015-4-2 09:24
O cool thanks for clearing that up.
Sorry for asking again but could you possibly send a battlerep ...

When I get off work I'll try to get a decent report for you showcasing the skill. Still working on infusing his gear sadly so don't expect huge numbers of damage.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-4-2 03:46:01

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-2 03:35
When I get off work I'll try to get a decent report for you showcasing the skill. Still working on ...

It's fine just want to see his skill in action if possible.

author: Aquivix time: 2015-4-2 03:54:05

Brahmastra replied at 2015-4-2 09:46
It's fine just want to see his skill in action if possible.

If nobody beats me to it I'll get a report sent in 8 hours or so.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-2 12:59:29

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-2 10:54
If nobody beats me to it I'll get a report sent in 8 hours or so.

Normally i really hard to win against aquivix(August) But when i make my T1 isshin fastest here is the result by the way isshin is agility talent i guess cause with same eq gear etc. my main only has 161k top speed but when i gave them isshins speed hits 176k which makes realy difference ^^

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=11860115529232378&aid=54&t=1

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-4-2 15:13:47

damn I want Isshin lol!

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-4-2 15:16:46

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-2 12:59
Normally i really hard to win against aquivix(August) But when i make my T1 isshin fastest here is ...

watever the formation... there is a way to counter it...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-4-2 16:11:19

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-2 12:59
Normally i really hard to win against aquivix(August) But when i make my T1 isshin fastest here is ...

seriously fk me.... so pissed i skipped isshin when i was 4k crystals away... gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-16 23:04:18

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-4-16 22:05

u counter him i can counter u, or am i hiding somthing

author: Lelouch71 time: 2015-8-5 16:45:48

Did you guys get Tosen and build him right? If you didn't,please leave this topic

author: thepoke007 time: 2015-8-9 07:58:19

wow didn't know real ishin regains fury....ours is nerefed

author: myungdae time: 2015-8-9 15:49:56

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-9 12:58
wow didn't know real ishin regains fury....ours is nerefed

Thank goodness, imagine how it would feel to get ulted every god damn turn.

author: thepoke007 time: 2015-8-9 17:05:41

myungdae replied at 2015-8-9 15:49
Thank goodness, imagine how it would feel to get ulted every god damn turn.

it would feel great since i have him

but yeah non ishin users will break their screens, gogames were weirdly fair this time..

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-12-27 15:14:41

Did anyone say top up yet?

author: theunknown404 time: 2015-12-28 14:31:36

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-27 15:14
Did anyone say top up yet?

Omg, it's so old. My eyes...

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-12-28 16:24:42

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