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author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 12:08:38 Title: HELP!!!!! Am Stuck

ok guys I need help

Am stuck between two bad ass VG.
Am getting Shin Shura Kenpachi but he just for show. That fossilize talent really kills the full.

Sooo Ichigo and Stark
IDK who to get

Like yeah I know Stark is more PVP than Ichigo but
Ichigo can hold up a higher Block rate than start ( After Mod )

But stark is the type to really attack everyone and with a hyorimaru. lol high HP sky rockets

For now am running 2-2-1

Any got any enlightenment for me?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-1 12:35:19

i got starrk when i hit 100, now am getting swp kenny ONLY for ryoka(may use him elsewhere if needed). if i go for ichigo next i need to get exp scrolls, golden reishi and mod him too, that i would only if i was getting something way significantly better than starrk, since i am not, i ain't going for ichigo. hence for me its starrk for pvp and other events esp gw and defend seretei, csb kenny for ryoka(wave 52+).

but since you haven't got starrk yet i think ichigo might suit you if you can wait till lvl 110, you get that extra 100% damage , which will be useful in those fights in arena/csb/hma etc

also i haven't used ichigo(havent reached 110 yet), so i am not sure how good he is over starrk (if worth waiting for ichigo from 100->110), some ichigo users could spread some knowledge here

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-1 12:35:59

I would totally get Starrk if you have level 9 or level 10 str stones. I think you've seen the battle report before but he's amazing with Hyorinmaru or Senbon.
If you have a regular spirit forged set and some level 7-8 stones Starrk still does proper damage against most Supporters.

Ichigo gives a lot more defense through Aid Rate. So it really depends on what you want or what you need? Attack or defense?

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 13:09:54

That stark is kick assssssss.
but the reason for that is cause he focuses on stark.
If he did on ichigo he would have a dope ass Ichigo. Since I seen sone BAD ass ichigo too
I want an offensive VG. but I really want him to hold his own as a VG and not die b4 my team.

If I get a VG that holds out after my team and can stuff draw 1/2 or 1/4 of opponent HP ill be happy.
if I get a VG killing VG lol DOPE. rest of team wont be a problem.

but idk. I guess it all depends on how am willing to mod him

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-1 13:16:47

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-1 12:09
That stark is kick assssssss.
but the reason for that is cause he focuses on stark.
If he did on ic ...

Focusing on Ichigo isn't as great due to his limited reach wth his soul skill. What makes Starrk effective is that his soul skill has a higher regen than Ichigo + hits all lanes.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-1 13:36:46

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-1 20:16
Focusing on Ichigo isn't as great due to his limited reach wth his soul skill. What makes Starrk e ...

So for pvp all part members died and 1vs1 hollowed ichigo and stark with same bp eq. stones etc. who would win???

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-1 13:39:48

[email protected] replied at 2015-3-1 22:36
So for pvp all part members died and 1vs1 hollowed ichigo and stark with same bp eq. stones etc. w ...

50% vs 45% hp recovery. starrk wins??

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 13:52:40

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-1 12:39
50% vs 45% hp recovery. starrk wins??

I dnt think stark would win. Ichigo does twice as much damage but stark doesn't Heal twice as fast as ichigoes damage rate.........hmmmmmm I guess ichigo would win there......

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-1 13:57:00

[email protected] replied at 2015-3-1 12:36
So for pvp all part members died and 1vs1 hollowed ichigo and stark with same bp eq. stones etc. w ...

starrk more dmg (final mod for starrk is 10% str) + heal is scaled off group dmg even if hitting single target

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-1 14:03:12

Starrk can kill support, Ichigo has to go through the vanguard and assaulters first. Chances are high that your Ichigo will never touch them due to stun or fury deduction.
This also happened in that battle report and if the attacker has 70%-90+% break defense rate and some stamina stones chances are high the supporter will never die. Of course with a bit of luck you will be able to do a fury turn every now and then. I'm pretty sure who the winner is in this scenario.

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 14:58:08

U guys making this hard than I was b4 looool

My head hurts

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-1 15:12:39

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-1 13:58
U guys making this hard than I was b4 looool

My head hurts

don't have hollow ichigo but here is difference between starrk and shin ken hope it helps.

ken solo
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... &aid=54&t=1

starrk solo
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... &aid=54&t=1

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-1 15:34:09

I think bad ass stark is better than bad ass ichigo since he attack all lanes and can directly kill the bad ass support

whereas bad ass ichigo may face difficulties upon opponent's bad ass VG with bad ass support as backup
and bad ass ichigo would need higher block than bad ass stark in compensating for his single lane attack (his condition might be more or less like bad ass ken video above)

does this post hurt your heads more?

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-3-1 15:34:22

Starrk's the best character in Bleach. And better than the other two. While Ichigo...boring protagonist. Kenpachi, while a bad-ass, that's really all he's got going for him.

My opinion on the matter.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-1 15:35:53

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-1 14:12
don't have hollow ichigo but here is difference between starrk and shin ken hope it helps.

ken so ...

ur such a bully leave kidox alone

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-1 15:41:05

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-1 14:34
I think bad ass stark is better than bad ass ichigo since he attack all lanes and can directly kill ...

a talking dog??

SHINJI RANAI!

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-1 15:44:22

Edited by Eilisa at 2015-3-1 14:47

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-1 14:35
ur such a bully leave kidox alone

lol i could do arena fight vs someone weaker but fight would end faster and 2nd is guildie trying to get 1k win streak so kido gets victimized =(
My hma fights not so entertaining or would post them (last fight in hma)
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=19145367902976625&aid=54&t=1

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-1 15:46:50

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-1 21:34
I think bad ass stark is better than bad ass ichigo since he attack all lanes and can directly kill ...

that badass ichigo keeps your AS alive --> 3v1 instead of 1v1

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 15:48:34

DUDE............................................
what server r u on?
almost 2mill HP?

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-1 15:50:13

Edited by Eilisa at 2015-3-1 14:55

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-1 14:48
DUDE............................................
what server r u on?
almost 2mill HP?

US71 i'm on and even with aid skill i prefer starrk over ichigo wish i could show my fights vs sroo but csb battles don't work

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-3-1 15:55:25

Stark sucks

get ichigo

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-1 15:58:00

595459354 replied at 2015-3-1 14:46
that badass ichigo keeps your AS alive --> 3v1 instead of 1v1

maybe for pve and event partner nodes, but if the stark is super strong it doesn't even need assaulters

when it comes to pvp aid rate doesn't matter

u know why??

gin, thats why

isshin, thats why

assaulter disablers

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-1 16:00:14

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-1 14:44
lol i could do arena fight vs someone weaker but fight would end faster and 2nd is guildie trying t ...

another clip of u being a bully

despicable!!!

take on someone ur own size!

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 16:00:31

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-1 14:34
I think bad ass stark is better than bad ass ichigo since he attack all lanes and can directly kill ...

I Kill u.........

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 16:20:20

Seems stark is the bad ass here.
My head still hurts

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-1 17:14:55

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-1 21:58
maybe for pve and event partner nodes, but if the stark is super strong it doesn't even need assau ...

say hello to nozashiri then ;p

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-1 17:17:24

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-1 22:20
Seems stark is the bad ass here.
My head still hurts

I got ichigo after ken VG and he's good.. til nozashiri ;)

depending on how far I get on hollow soul maps with him i'll get stark (but most CN higher lvls take ichigo> stark)

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-1 17:33:32

595459354 replied at 2015-3-1 16:17
I got ichigo after ken VG and he's good.. til nozashiri ;)

depending on how far I get on hollow s ...

i don't have anything constructive to say

but I wanted to reply anyway

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author: DeEmEn time: 2015-3-1 17:51:20

I personally faced a bad ass icihigo and a bad ass starrk... I found stark is way more affective... both of them focus a lot of the VG and not a lot of the rest of the team.

As what Yagami said about Stark... I 100% agree.

author: chris2802 time: 2015-3-1 18:03:12

so what stones and which level would you recommend for stark? right now i have sajin and he has lvl 4~5 str stones and i'm lvl 87 and maybe i would collect stones for him until lvl 100?

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-1 18:31:36

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-1 23:33
i don't have anything constructive to say

but I wanted to reply anyway

Haha now i'm flattered, that you're willing to share that experience with me

It makes me feel loved...

It's a strange feeling

let me share that with you

L.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-3-1 18:52:28

you need at least a good amount of lvl 9 stones (Str/Agi/Stam/Crit/Block/Hit) to make him very effective, or else, stick with sajin or SWP ken lol.

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-1 19:22:37

DeEmEn replied at 2015-3-1 17:52
you need at least a good amount of lvl 9 stones (Str/Agi/Stam/Crit/Block/Hit) to make him very effec ...

Dude it takes forever to get 900 coupons.

author: gr8nesh18 time: 2015-3-2 06:19:50

can stark touch aizen swp? lol

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-2 10:38:52

gr8nesh18 replied at 2015-3-2 05:19
can stark touch aizen swp? lol

looool aizen is a bad ass

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-3-2 10:53:40 Title: RE: HELP!!!!! Am Stuck

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-1 14:50
US71 i'm on and even with aid skill i prefer starrk over ichigo wish i could show my fights vs sroo ...

do u know someone named phillip on US71 ?

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-2 11:15:11

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-3-2 09:53
do u know someone named phillip on US71 ?

yes i do

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-2 13:35:10

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-1 14:12
don't have hollow ichigo but here is difference between starrk and shin ken hope it helps.

ken so ...

Dude give me some pointers on how to get the HP so high plz

Pretty please!!!!!
PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-2 17:04:29

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-2 12:35
Dude give me some pointers on how to get the HP so high plz

Pretty please!!!!!

I use hyori for zanpak (70% hp bonus) and have lv9-10 sta stones + a tier 5 hogu that is at lv8 also using lv100 yellow hp accessories to0 .

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-2 17:14:51

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-2 16:16
I shall make u proud master. IDK abt the stones tho
Right now I just have lvl 8 stamina

obviously she has already spent a minimum of 2grand

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-2 17:16:49

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-2 16:04
I use hyori for zanpak (70% hp bonus) and have lv9-10 sta stones + a tier 5 hogu that is at lv8 als ...

I shall make u proud master. IDK abt the stones tho
Right now I just have lvl 8 stamina

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-2 17:18:24

Edited by Eilisa at 2015-3-2 16:22

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-2 16:16
I shall make u proud master. IDK abt the stones tho
Right now I just have lvl 8 stamina

The reason I had to make my vg strong was due to second have a t1 isshin which disabled my assaulters so had to change my team setup to support and vg based since couldn't match assaulters speed I was using kazeshini or hyori and he was using zangetsu so was losing out in the assaulter natural speed unless i wanted to spend to get some higher tier stuff (currently boycotting topping up till gogames fixes some stuff) . Strengthed my vg and was orginally using toshiro but found that not being able to hit support with vg can have you negated by them putting Unohana in back or a stunner.

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-2 17:35:00

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-2 16:18
The reason I had to make my vg strong was due to second have a t1 isshin which disabled my assaulte ...

So instead of over powering him u took a different root.
It makes sense, You made a beast that Blocks and Attacks.

But what happens in they have a bad ass healer?
I guess that's why you have crit stones on a VG?
Since a lot of Support isn't Crit resistant too much

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-2 17:41:37

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-2 16:35
So instead of over powering him u took a different root.
It makes sense, You made a beast that Bl ...

Retsu doesn't heal herself so once she is taken out you can dwindle the team down.

author: mansonloo time: 2015-3-3 02:27:43

hmmm noobie question, can u crit when dealing damage through block? just curious... as i have yet to see that happen. even during ES or ryoka when my assaulters have around 40% block each. they only do normal damage through block.

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-3 04:32:39

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-3 01:27
hmmm noobie question, can u crit when dealing damage through block? just curious... as i have yet to ...

i don't think we can crit when opponent block is activated

author: mansonloo time: 2015-3-3 05:01:50

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-3 03:32
i don't think we can crit when opponent block is activated

What I meant was when we block, we deals back damage. Can that damage be critical?

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-3 14:53:49

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-3 04:01
What I meant was when we block, we deals back damage. Can that damage be critical?

yes you can crit on damage dealt back

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-3 16:41:39

What Eilisa said, kinda weird that you can though haha

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-3 16:59:59

595459354 replied at 2015-3-3 15:41
What Eilisa said, kinda weird that you can though haha

maybe ur the weird one

._.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-3 17:14:17

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-3 22:59
maybe ur the weird one

._.

I think i'm more suited to be the "special" one, at least that's what my mom calls me

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-3 17:42:17

595459354 replied at 2015-3-3 16:14
I think i'm more suited to be the "special" one, at least that's what my mom calls me

Maybe i'm a lion?

+1 FF8 reference

+1 ME BRO + 1ME NOW!!!!!!

author: 595459354 time: 2015-3-3 18:20:42

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-3 23:42
Maybe i'm a lion?

+1 FF8 reference

That depends, are you into Hakuna matata?

Here ya go:

author: madarad time: 2015-3-6 08:41:11

ichigo rules

author: madarad time: 2015-3-6 09:39:58

ichigo is ten times better then starrk

author: Leonsumrak time: 2015-3-8 06:05:05

Guys i have other problems .................I cannot chalange in 'HUECOMONDO'. help me what i need to do with it?

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-3-8 09:47:14

Leonsumrak replied at 2015-3-8 05:05
Guys i have other problems .................I cannot chalange in 'HUECOMONDO'. help me what i need t ...

IDK reset maybe or its a bug.
Whats happening exactly?

author: Animatri time: 2015-3-8 09:50:53

Judge_Spawn replied at 2015-3-8 15:47
IDK reset maybe or its a bug.
Whats happening exactly?

It's bugged. happened to me aswell and i had to reset to be able to fight again...
You can click "start battle" as many times as you want but nothing will happen...

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-8 09:54:06

same as me, i thought I lagged so I refresh but still can't start battle until I reset the map. I experienced this at HMA espada 3, how about you guys?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-8 10:04:22

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-8 15:54
same as me, i thought I lagged so I refresh but still can't start battle until I reset the map. I ex ...

same second battle of map gotta wait till it's fixed i guess have a good bloody sunday

author: Audis3000 time: 2015-3-8 12:49:21

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-1 11:35
I would totally get Starrk if you have level 9 or level 10 str stones. I think you've seen the battl ...

well lvl 7-8 still does good damage and specially with hyorin

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