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author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-12 19:24:46     Title: Class imbalance? Stat imbalance?

Wondering, why does ghostblade hit so hard with exactly the same stats as a kido class?

The stats should be exactly the same, only different damage types, but obviously devs fucked up somewhere and physical def doesn't work nearly as well as strategic def?

author: frostytide    time: 2014-8-12 19:50:51

are you asking why physical damage main characters do more damage or magic/strategic damage main characters deal more damage? since physical def will protect you from ghost blade and the other blade main character while strategic def protects you from kido main character. could just depend on what players are upgrading also, only 1 piece of kido defense gear while there is 2 pieces of physical defense gear, two pieces of physical defense gear = same defense of the 1 kido defense gear
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-12 19:55:45

Aye, i know that and thats exactly what is bothering me, on paper everyone looks equal, but it feels like Ghost Blades do way more damage for some reason.

I've been doing for example about 6-7k damage with my special skill on a even level ghost blade, while he would be doing over 10k easily :/
author: frostytide    time: 2014-8-12 20:05:52

Edited by frostytide at 2014-8-12 19:07

do you both have the same fortifys on gear, best stat refines for each of your character, same lvl spirit jades that are good for each of you? I'm a kido class and beat most of the spirit blades and ghost blades on my server that are equal level/not much higher in vip than i amcould also be that they are using a different skill with a stronger growth rate on it/upgraded it more and they could also be further on their scroll than you so their main character has better growth rate on stats also

author: boringstuff    time: 2014-8-12 20:10:15

lol This is a pathetic thread , it is balanced you are just being a paranoid nubbie
author: fcalife    time: 2014-8-12 20:10:49

On S23 the top two players are a ghost blade and a kido user, and they can consistently one-shot eachother with their skills. Their stats are also very similar. I do not think there's a imbalance, at least stat-wise

Best regards!

- Blaze Akari, S23

author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-12 20:29:23

boringstuff replied at 2014-8-12 19:10
lol This is a pathetic thread , it is balanced you are just being a paranoid nubbie

I really they would ip block you, so the forum would have less trash stinking it up.
author: boringstuff    time: 2014-8-12 20:36:19

fcalife replied at 2014-8-13 02:10
On S23 the top two players are a ghost blade and a kido user, and they can consistently one-shot eac ...

see ? its just as i said , you paranoid nubcake
author: nieverland    time: 2014-8-12 22:05:31

Dunno, this game is easy for Gost blade in most of trials, hollow king, and instances  but i dont think they can do more dmg with same stats you can look in reiatsu stats or both def maybe thats the difference
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-12 23:07:22

boringstuff replied at 2014-8-12 19:36
see ? its just as i said , you paranoid nubcake

Almost all of your posts has something negative about a poster. What's the need for it?

Anyways to the OP, it's balanced, each class has it's good and bad positions. Kido does better in the espada 3 last fights, where as the other 2 do well in trials and palace.

Kido starts out rly strong, due to low Strat defense in the beginning, on S11, the #2 and #3 behind me are Kido, and shit on everyone except me. Later on it will fall off, as vans and party members get more and more Strat defense.

It's all rather well balanced at the end.
author: N7Pankake    time: 2014-8-12 23:31:53

boringstuff replied at 2014-8-12 19:10
lol This is a pathetic thread , it is balanced you are just being a paranoid nubbie

It is so balanced why everyone uses kido ?
Ah right theres not too many strategic Defence ^^
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-13 04:36:38

N7Pankake replied at 2014-8-12 22:31
It is so balanced why everyone uses kido ?
Ah right theres not too many strategic Defence ^^

Exactly as much Strategy def as much as phys def, actually strategy def is even easier to obtain due to having to upgrade only 1 item for it.
author: loljk1337    time: 2014-8-13 04:40:37

Kido users will be in a disadvantage later on due to being forced into a 1-3-1 setup if you want 2 physical damage dealers. also the Attack all of a Kido user to take out opponents supports won't be as effective as a ghost or soul blade.
author: N7Pankake    time: 2014-8-13 06:29:35

loljk1337 replied at 2014-8-13 03:40
Kido users will be in a disadvantage later on due to being forced into a 1-3-1 setup if you want 2 p ...

Not really thats why theres Momo and Haribel son
you can get momo vs assaults before 70 so...
I have seen people with 3 supports and 1 assault (Main supper beefy) and one Vanguard
How this works? cause no one have reach lv 70... and no one can do direct damage to Supports... he...hehehe....

When you are lv 70 you can get Yoruichi but before that... Dam that combo is op.
author: loljk1337    time: 2014-8-13 06:46:55

N7Pankake replied at 2014-8-13 05:29
Not really thats why theres Momo and Haribel son
you can get momo vs assaults before 70 so...
I ha ...

"Later".... Guess you missed that part. The moment your Main gets the 'attack all' hit it will not deal a lot of dmg to supports as its Kido damage and Supports have a high defence value against this.


Be it in PVP or PVE combat there will be a disadvantage when trying to take down supports ;-)


author: N7Pankake    time: 2014-8-13 07:03:42

loljk1337 replied at 2014-8-13 05:46
"Later".... Guess you missed that part. The moment your Main gets the 'attack all' hit it will not  ...

hehehe yeah i miss that part but is pretty much that
author: boringstuff    time: 2014-8-13 16:14:16

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-13 05:07
Almost all of your posts has something negative about a poster. What's the need for it?

Anyways t ...

I'm  just allergic to nubcakes , plus he insulted me first on a thread before . . .
Im usually pretty nice ,ask anyone on the server u.u
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-13 17:56:10

boringstuff replied at 2014-8-13 15:14
I'm  just allergic to nubcakes , plus he insulted me first on a thread before . . .
Im usually pr ...

Insult? No mate, i'm sorry but i just stated the truth, you have to be pretty miserable, if you feel the need to insult people on the forum to gain attention.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-13 19:18:07

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-13 16:56
Insult? No mate, i'm sorry but i just stated the truth, you have to be pretty miserable, if you fee ...

Can't we all just get along
author: N7Pankake    time: 2014-8-13 19:25:39

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-13 18:18
Can't we all just get along

aparently we cant so im gonna eat a candy :3

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author: boringstuff    time: 2014-8-13 20:09:47

N7Pankake replied at 2014-8-14 01:25
aparently we cant so im gonna eat a candy :3

hey i wanna D:
author: AgentP    time: 2014-8-13 21:57:47

Edited by AgentP at 2014-8-13 20:59
N7Pankake replied at 2014-8-12 22:31
It is so balanced why everyone uses kido ?
Ah right theres not too many strategic Defence ^^

I just like the kido character and their description xD

I realize i'm late to the pitch here but hey... hehe

author: N7Pankake    time: 2014-8-13 22:05:18

AgentP replied at 2014-8-13 20:57
I just like the kido character and their description xD

I realize i'm late to the pitch here but h ...

is just that Kido users have an early "head up" cause theres not too many Strategy Defence, and is hard to go vs em at the start, also is easier to do PVE with them sometimes (Some trials).
author: AgentP    time: 2014-8-13 23:17:04

N7Pankake replied at 2014-8-13 21:05
is just that Kido users have an early "head up" cause theres not too many Strategy Defence, and is ...

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