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author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 04:14:20 Title: how is the % calculated for "when dead" modifiers?

Eg: tavern aizen, it says when dead has 25% of reducing fury of whole team. How is this 25% calculated?

is it like if i do 4 fights in arean, one of them in which aizen dies the opp team fury reduces or out of the 4 times aizen dies one of that fight the opp fury reduces?
if so then if i do 3 fights in arena and aizen dies , then 4th fight if i do in csb will that trigger the reducing opp fury(provided aizen didn't reduce fury in the first 3 matches?)

how exactly does this work?

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-8 04:33:39

Stop over thinking things, when he dies there is a 25% chance.

author: elitegio time: 2015-3-8 05:43:18

you just have a 1 in 4 chance of reducing the opponents fury, its not like its a guarantee either since your working with a random % chance.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 06:15:38

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-8 13:33
Stop over thinking things, when he dies there is a 25% chance.

had you said that it was a random chance, that would have made sense. but you telling there is a 25% chance doesn't make sense at all.

i was thinking for using aizen for a strategy where a full T1 team would wipe me off by their third fastest player, if i playing them 4 times would help in reducing the fury then i could try that.

author: UnKnOwNHoLlOw time: 2015-3-8 06:18:54

Its like stun rate % its random and luck

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-8 06:25:31

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-8 05:15
had you said that it was a random chance, that would have made sense. but you telling there is a 2 ...

Why does it not make sense? There is a 1 in 4 chance or 25% in order for the skill to trigger. Depending on your luck this can happen 3 times in a row or never at all.
A random chance would imply that the percentage is given randomly, could be 1%, 20%, 88% or 100%

As for the strategy I'd totally try it! Maybe even leave your Aizen without gear and just accessories?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 06:30:20

elitegio replied at 2015-3-8 14:43
you just have a 1 in 4 chance of reducing the opponents fury, its not like its a guarantee either si ...

hmmm. so the 25% doesn't mean anything then. if it was a 50% chance, it would still mean the same. its "a chance to reduce team fury then" i suppose cos "1 in 4 chances" can mean something else.

anyone else knows how this works?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 06:33:35

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-8 15:25
Why does it not make sense? There is a 1 in 4 chance or 25% in order for the skill to trigger. Dep ...

yeah, that was my plan, to leave him with the least HP. but then i haven't got him yet, was thinking if i do go with him, i would like to know how this thing works.

because if he does that skill 3 times continous then again that is not 25% cos it could be a (0,0,0,1),(1,1,0,0), so it could have happend 25%, 50% (correct me if i am wrong). if its indeed a 1 in 4 chances then i would be sure that after he does that skill then he would atleast do it within the next 4 tries again. if so then i could use that to my csb opponent whom i cant defeat

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i am getting gin to his 5th mod, i will try and test with that out and see how this works.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-8 06:53:24

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-8 05:33
yeah, that was my plan, to leave him with the least HP. but then i haven't got him yet, was thinki ...

Ok lets try it this way lolol

Aizen has 25% chance, PER FIGHT, to trigger his skill.

If it fails 3 times it won't mean the 4th time is a success, because it's 25% per fight and not in total, that would be OP.

Is it understandable this way? The skill does not add up.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 07:08:39

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-8 15:53
Ok lets try it this way lolol

Aizen has 25% chance, PER FIGHT, to trigger his skill.

"because it's 25% per fight "

hmmm,
say gin, "when attacked there is 50% chance of recovering fury". now you mean this is 50% chance per attack and not 50% every turn ie once in every two attacks he recovers fury?

if so then 25% would mean something like a low chance
and 50% would be something like a high chance(just like the stun chance terminology). the numbers confused me, now got it. so it just cant be calculated when it could trigger. anyways the plan is still on, i will try it later.

thanks for the clarification

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 07:13:45

UnKnOwNHoLlOw replied at 2015-3-8 15:18
Its like stun rate % its random and luck

yup, got it now, thanks

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-8 07:27:31

Edited by Brahmastra at 2015-3-8 06:34

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-8 06:08
"because it's 25% per fight "

hmmm,

If Gin gets attacked there is a 50% chance of him recovering 20 fury, this is PER ATTACK.

So lets say Gin gets attacked by supporters and a 10 skill from a main char. You are lucky enough to trigger the effect twice during both attacks. Gin will now have 40 extra fury.

As far as terminology goes you are right.
25% could mean low and 50% could mean high. Of course we will never be certain until GoGames releases official numbers.

author: mansonloo time: 2015-3-8 10:58:18

Wow Alex are u serious? Is this ur first mmorpg or u like to catch ppl word by word. If it is the latter, ur gonna have a pretty bad headache in this translated game. Just saying bruh.

author: Audis3000 time: 2015-3-8 12:36:53

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-8 06:13
yup, got it now, thanks

well i will explain more exactly let's take first for example aizen final mod ( 25% chance to deduct fury after dead ) :
well if we put 100/25 = 4 which mean if aizen die 4 times " at the same time " he will have 100% of deducting fury to one of them

let's go to gin ( 50% chance to stun per attack ) :
100/50 = 2 which mean if gin was attacked 2 times at the same time he will stun one of the opponents

now to noitra ( 20% stun per attack ) :
100/20 = 5 which mean if noitra is attacked 5 times at the same time he will stun one of the opponents

hope it cleared things up

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 14:15:56

mansonloo replied at 2015-3-8 19:58
Wow Alex are u serious? Is this ur first mmorpg or u like to catch ppl word by word. If it is the la ...

must be my second, the one i played before was diablo, but that was much a clearer on terminology. noob here

author: nieverland time: 2015-3-8 15:50:57

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-8 13:15
must be my second, the one i played before was diablo, but that was much a clearer on terminology. ...

yep bro pretty much Brhamastra is right the % never increase doest matter how many times you do that gonna stay the same, in this case 25% that only means 25% or a low % of succed , so even with a low % of succed lets say Noitra have 20% of stuning oponent after being att and happened that he stun all my team at the same turn incredibly a lot more times than 20%

so is mostly random bro

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-8 21:27:49

nieverland replied at 2015-3-9 00:50
yep bro pretty much Brhamastra is right the % never increase doest matter how many times you do tha ...

cool, thanks for that. am just learning

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