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author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-11 22:26:42 Title: Re-design ryoka

Crappy event, even crappier with more players.

What about Individual Ryoka??

Where players compete to see who can get the farthest in waves, without having to deal with other players + lag.

1 wave cleared --> wave 2 cleared.. ect

^ the hp and lv would increase the farther you go

dmg can still be calculated towards clan points

The strongest wins ofc, but atleast you won't miss any waves at all, everything you kill is yours.

also increase the amount of souls per kill, and remove the stupid epic mat chests that no one needs.

pls send this idea to support, along with the bugged SWP

the more we send the more likely they might lift their ass a cm off their chairs

author: chris2802 time: 2015-3-11 23:00:44

i totally agree. In my server they go wave 52 in 11 min, if you blink you miss 1 wave of ryoka. It's getting ridiculous.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-11 23:19:45

welcome to server merge. after 1-2 months, you will be back to very few players in ryoka, ie back to normal.

the same goes for ES. after 1-2 months, you wont be able to complete your own ES within 15min. ppl will leave and then it will be back to the same number of ppl or less.

author: bladeofcloud time: 2015-3-11 23:25:37

Edited by bladeofcloud at 2015-3-11 22:26

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 22:19
welcome to server merge. after 1-2 months, you will be back to very few players in ryoka, ie back to ...

The OP and me have both been here longer than you, so I don't know who the " welcome to server merge" was directed to :/

Ryoka is bad, and I agree with what the OP said, on the other hand, you don't ; making it a non-constructive post on your part.

Atleast with this Idea it benefits players new and old, strong and weak.

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-11 23:37:59

If they are going to fix ryoka (Make it like Catacombs from Wartune kind of. It is a 100 level tower that drops a spirit gem every 5 levels and starts at lv1 gems and if you can finish it drops a lv4 gem) I think they should also fix ruri hogyuku too and add a few other things I think.

I would like to see ruri (jades work something like this I know won't happen due to reworking of coding)[attach]5158[/attach]

As you gather astrals you get points and you can later exchange them for higher tier astrals [attach]5155[/attach] of your choice making the effort of leveling up your jades worthwhile and taking away some of the randon ultimate jades that you are not trying to get and actually get ones you want. Would also be nice if we had more stat choices for jades too (crit / block / counter / piercing / aid / combo / immune / dmg modify)

Then the generic appearance of character[attach]5156[/attach] would be really nice if could customize our appearance alittle instead of having mass clones of ourselves running around [attach]5157[/attach] because being able to customize our characters is nice and gogames would profit from this feature since people like to look different and unique. (Bleach fashion is

)

Sorry for the Wartune pictures just figured it was easy to reference (since it another flash game and older) to show the idea behind what i was saying. I also apologize for the messy post.

I'm not complaining about current state of things though just think these improvements would make game more enjoyable for a lot of the people that aren't satisified with current state on some parts of Bleach. It is still a fairly new game but with the background and lore of Bleach the dev team has a ton of options to add. The content they give us depends on how much work they want to put into the game. I hope for the best and can only hope the devs will put in the effort to help improve the game.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-11 23:53:43

Edited by YagamiLi at 2015-3-11 23:58

Eilisa replied at 2015-3-11 23:37
If they are going to fix ryoka (Make it like Catacombs from Wartune kind of. It is a 100 level tower ...

Wartune is more of a money grab than bleach

You're still attached to it!! *plays sad tune on mini violin*

I agree with ruri ro hogyoku, being able to use fragments or silver spent in exchange for a hogyoku of your choice.

Catacombs is not an event, its a pve aspect same with hollow soul for bleach.

this is a thread on ryoka though, I need an army sending in complaints '-'

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-11 23:54:41

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-11 23:53
Wartune is more of a money grab than bleach

You're still attached to it!! *plays sad tune on mini ...

I have sent complaints

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-11 23:55:52

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-11 23:53
Wartune is more of a money grab than bleach

You're still attached to it!! *plays sad tune on mini ...

And yes catacombs was kind of like hollow souls but campaigns would sometime drop extra keys for more chances

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:06:41

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-3-12 09:08

bladeofcloud replied at 2015-3-12 08:25
The OP and me have both been here longer than you, so I don't know who the " welcome to server merg ...

if you were here for a longer time then you would have the sense to know that ideas are not taken by gogames and neither will they be implemented. it has to be fixed in CN first maybe(i havent stayed in this forums for as long as you are hence ..)

ideas are always welcome, but when you know its shooting in the dark, then its just a waste of energy.
Edit- oh and one more thing, you were not even in this thread when i repled to, so it means i don't reply to random strangers. (unless the second reply is from ur alt forum account)

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 00:17:40

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 22:19
welcome to server merge. after 1-2 months, you will be back to very few players in ryoka, ie back to ...

You mean after server merge in 1-2 months players quit? or what do you mean by back to normal?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:18:49

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:17
You mean after server merge in 1-2 months players quit? or what do you mean by back to normal?

just from my exp, server merge would be say 4 servers getting together. so now say there are 4 top players, from which 2nd or 3rd must have done topups just to stay on top of the arena but now he is 2nd and cant defeat the first, he quits as he is anyways tired of the game(just a probability). many others play and find ryoka and ES very less rewarding than before merge, from that 1-2 will find it boring later(2 months atleast) and quits.

now for ryoka to hit lvl 50, you need strong players and not so many players, if 2-3 lvl 80-100+ ppl leave, there is more chance for others to get hits.

for ES, in the beginning it will get over within 5 min, this will continue for a week or 2-3 weeks. then when such players quit, it depends if they have the time to come for events or not, if not then you will be left alone with some players only, hence you will find it hard to even finish the ES(again this will happen after 2 months or so). again weekends ppl might not play events, you again have less ppl.

so more or less say after 2-3 months, it will be back to how it was before ie a few players in ES and ryoka.. but yes, the first 2 months will be very less rewarding for events.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-12 00:26:25

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 00:18
just from my exp, server merge would be say 4 servers getting together. so now say there are 4 top ...

u say it would have to be changed in CN

but gogames

they don't even give us the rewards of cn or the prices

just jjj-ust just.. nerfed partners, modify that doesn't work, time expiration date on mods .-.

^ Credits to Brahmastra

#Team Yagami

(Also confirming bladeofcloud is his own person, my guild mate in game '-')

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:31:01

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-12 09:26
u say it would have to be changed in CN

but gogames

i wonder why its cheap in china. do they get 200g for 5$ too?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 00:31:30

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:18
just from my exp, server merge would be say 4 servers getting together. so now say there are 4 top ...

Oh I thought it takes merged servers much faster than 5mins.. I don't know how strong the players next to my server are.. but I'm already soloing all 3 ES in less than 4mins.. so I guess if they were slow before merge, they might quit sooner than 2months after merge

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:35:32

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:31
Oh I thought it takes merged servers much faster than 5mins.. I don't know how strong the players ...

one more thing, when more strong players arrive, the hp of your ES increases, thereby making it harder to kill later on.
what is the lvl of your ES and hp now if you remember ie? and how much dmg do you do in ES per fight?

Edit- basically when more players from your clan increases in lvl, then ES lvl increases is what i meant

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 00:46:14

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:31
i wonder why its cheap in china. do they get 200g for 5$ too?

There are many options to that but not sure which one it is

1- Wages for chinese staff are much lower than EU/US staff
2- Chinese servers might be cheaper than EU/US
3- Gogames are greedy, they want to make as much money as possible in a short time
4- Gogames thinks that something made in china is always cheap so they should charge more
5- Chinese players income are much less than US/EU income in general

You can choose whatever reason you like.. I just listed few

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 00:49:12

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:35
one more thing, when more strong players arrive, the hp of your ES increases, thereby making it har ...

Yesterday it was lvl112 for main, the rest were 90+, I did 45m with PvP

Today it should be higher level, and I think I should do more dmg cuz i'm going PvE

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:50:09

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:46
There are many options to that but not sure which one it is

1- Wages for chinese staff are much ...

i choose option 3 and 4

btw any idea what are the gold prices in CN? is it same as EU/US?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 00:54:53

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:49
Yesterday it was lvl112 for main, the rest were 90+, I did 45m with PvP

Today it should be higher ...

woot 45m per fight to ES? wow, that too pvp :O,
wait, 45m damage per fight as in per 5 rounds of a single fight right?

what lvl are you ? and wats your bp?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 00:54:55

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:54
woot 45m per fight to ES? wow, that too pvp :O,
wait, 45m damage per fight as in per 5 rounds of ...

Level 106
BP 1.3m

Yes, 43~45m per fight

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 01:00:37

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:54
woot 45m per fight to ES? wow, that too pvp :O,
wait, 45m damage per fight as in per 5 rounds of ...

I hope i'll get over 50m today

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 01:02:00

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 09:54
Level 106
BP 1.3m

thats awesome, what is your team formation pvp and pve ie. are there other monsters like you in ur server?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 01:02:32

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-11 23:50
i choose option 3 and 4

btw any idea what are the gold prices in CN? is it same as EU/US?

The prices are much cheaper, I can't tell you how much cuz I don't really remember but lets say

VIP 10 in EU/US is 5,000 USD
VIP 10 in China is 1,000 USD (more or less)

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 01:09:14

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 00:02
thats awesome, what is your team formation pvp and pve ie. are there other monsters like you in ur ...

No, I'm doing 92%+ of the damage

Actually, both PvP and PvE are the same formation, just the difference is who attacks first/who gets the best stones etc.. king of hallows exchanging.. hogyoku change.. for example

PvE Speed '' fastest to slowest ''
1- Shin Gin
2- Dark Rukia
3- Shin Yourichi
4- Main
5- S. Yourichi

In PvE, which one to give the best stones for dmg etc
1. S. Yourichi
2. Shin Yourichi
3. Shinso Gin
4. Main/D. Rukia

PvP speed '' fastest to slowest ''
1. Shin Yourichi
2. Shinso Gin
The rest can die, they are too slow xD

In Pvp, which one to give the best stones for dmg etc
1- Shinso Gin
2- Shin Yourichi
The rest can die, don't need their dmg xD

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-12 01:21:43

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 13:09
No, I'm doing 92%+ of the damage

Actually, both PvP and PvE are the same formation, just the diff ...

so, you stacked only these 2 characters for pvp?

author: Eilisa time: 2015-3-12 01:22:09

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 00:46
There are many options to that but not sure which one it is

1- Wages for chinese staff are much ...

There might be some low wages in China but China does have a pretty big economy.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/25/ ... dle-class/index.htm

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 01:28:26

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 00:21
so, you stacked only these 2 characters for pvp?

They are enough to get me rank 1 in CSB

I don't rely on others at this moment but later I will make them stronger/faster

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 01:43:14

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 10:09
No, I'm doing 92%+ of the damage

Actually, both PvP and PvE are the same formation, just the diff ...

shinso gin and dark rukia, neat combo. which zanpakuto do you use?

what tier are your yoruichis?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 01:58:52

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 00:43
shinso gin and dark rukia, neat combo. which zanpakuto do you use?

what tier are your yoruichis? ...

Senbon

2 t1 fury partners
1. Shinso Gin
2. Shin Yourichi

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 02:01:51

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-3-12 11:07

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 10:58
Senbon

2 t1 fury partners

ah i completely forgot about the T1 part. nice. well since u r #1 in csb, you won't have to worry about server merge. but yes the money you get from ES would be less.
one tip, after finishing ur ES, go to the lowest lvl clan ES, you will earn more silver there
Edit- senbon, worth all the gold you spent

. does he give speed to support too? i have seen stats here n there by ppl but not by those who have used him, could you provide his hogyoku stats? thanks

author: Aquivix time: 2015-3-12 02:28:58

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 08:01
ah i completely forgot about the T1 part. nice. well since u r #1 in csb, you won't have to worry a ...

He only buffs up Assaulter and tank sadly. Nothing to support at all otherwise I would have got him as well. Losing 30k speed not worth it to me. Plus only getting him instead of him and a bunch of extra items for 30k seems incredibly pricey. Far better deal with Shinso Gin in Joint Task for $800. A great Zanpakuto, just a terrible deal right now for him in my opinion.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-12 02:32:18

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-12 00:26
u say it would have to be changed in CN

but gogames

pls whisper my name into my ear.. softly

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-12 03:36:05

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 14:01
ah i completely forgot about the T1 part. nice. well since u r #1 in csb, you won't have to worry a ...

weak clan = weaker def, lower hp, lower lv

why is that weaker ES drops more silver? is it because of our % damage is higher than strong one? not because of ES level?

also, how can we estimate ES level? ES usually have higher lvls than the real player

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 03:44:51

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 01:01
ah i completely forgot about the T1 part. nice. well since u r #1 in csb, you won't have to worry a ...

[attach]5162[/attach]

author: Aquivix time: 2015-3-12 03:46:14

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 09:36
weak clan = weaker def, lower hp, lower lv

why is that weaker ES drops more silver? is it because ...

I believe you are correct. It matters not the level of the ES, but the % of damage you deal that determines what rewards you reap. As for the level of the ES, I have no clue. On US 42-44, the Shinigami one is at 128. Think it's something about the top 20 in arena. Not certain though.

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-12 04:03:29

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 00:36
weak clan = weaker def, lower hp, lower lv

why is that weaker ES drops more silver? is it because ...

All evil spirits give the exact same amount of silver

it only appears lesser due to high hp

so leitzur is correct ITS RELATIVE TO %

BUT WHEN U HAVE OTHER PEOPLE HITTING ON UR ES

U WANNA GET 2 QUICK HITS ON DEM ES TAP TAP

LIGHTS OUT NIGGUH LIGHTS OUT

author: mansonloo time: 2015-3-12 04:28:20

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 03:36
weak clan = weaker def, lower hp, lower lv

why is that weaker ES drops more silver? is it because ...

i think what he meant was weaker clan = less people hitting it, thus more hp/time for u to churn out more silver.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 04:29:19

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-12 13:03
All evil spirits give the exact same amount of silver

it only appears lesser due to high hp

yes, i forgot to tell that shinigami clan has the lowest in our server, hence maybe the more silver acc to what leitzur and you said. but then why does it give a bit more on the first attack or max second, and then its constant? any idea abt that?(even if its just one person attacking all the time)

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-12 04:34:45

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 01:29
yes, i forgot to tell that shinigami clan has the lowest in our server, hence maybe the more silve ...

1st hit on ur own ES is like 3.5x what u would generate from a normal round

1st hit is high silver/high exp

2nd hit is normal silver/high exp

then it's consistent flow

I have no idea why/how it works like that, I guess it's just a bonus if you manage to reach other clans EVIL SPIRITS

so many mysteries

so many untold secrets

so many hidden things

actually if its based on % then it's pretty dumb to have the thing lv up and increase in hp

my es is lv135, probably 136 later today with 1.2billion hp >.> so tedious, rather they can cap each es at 500m

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 04:36:00

Aquivix replied at 2015-3-12 12:46
I believe you are correct. It matters not the level of the ES, but the % of damage you deal that d ...

level is calculated maybe adding a base lvl to an average lvl. when server merged the ES had a base lvl, so maybe that is added to the avg lvl of the clan lvls , or some calculation like that.

author: Aquivix time: 2015-3-12 04:44:17

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 10:36
level is calculated maybe adding a base lvl to an average lvl. when server merged the ES had a bas ...

Yeah makes sense. Haha I remember day one of server merge. Lvl 30 spirit and died in a second lol. First time I was on top 3 and got the kill at the same time

. The one time Hakan didn't get the killing blow when he played!

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-12 06:27:31

chris2802 replied at 2015-3-11 23:00
i totally agree. In my server they go wave 52 in 11 min, if you blink you miss 1 wave of ryoka. It's ...

every day i miss at least 10 waves of ryoka...

gotten so use to this shit...

at worst i think i gave a full 12mins of handicap by not even hittin any shit or

login in late...

most of the time i chase the top spot like a mad person... n all this lag n CD is not helpin...

even worse if i get DC...

well i do agree wif a solo ryoka n see how far u can go for the duration of time given...

eg : 30mins... u clear everythin by urself... tht would be cool...

or... make more ryoka per waves... eg : 10 ryoka to 15 ryoka per waves...

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-12 06:30:12

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 00:17
You mean after server merge in 1-2 months players quit? or what do you mean by back to normal?

well ever after server merge... for the 1st week u ll see a lot of ppl due to the merge...

but after the 2nd week or so... ppl will start quiting n leavin...

thts wat happen to most of the servers... includin mine... coz they feel tht they cant cope wit the ranks

anymore... n its gettin stressful in ryoka since they cant hit as fast... n not gettin as much b4...

pros n cons of havin a merge...

but thts just the cycle of life in game...

same goes to every other games u know....

author: ShawnTheWolf time: 2015-3-12 07:06:24

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-12 05:30
well ever after server merge... for the 1st week u ll see a lot of ppl due to the merge...

but ...

Truth

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 08:00:40

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-12 15:30
well ever after server merge... for the 1st week u ll see a lot of ppl due to the merge...

but ...

but then you are here for less than 45 days, you shouldn't be stressful, you should be joyful ;) take it easy !!

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-12 08:03:46

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 08:00
but then you are here for less than 45 days, you shouldn't be stressful, you should be joyful ;) t ...

i am joyfull in the forum... esp wit ur presence...

onli stressful in game...

hics...

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-12 09:12:02

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-12 16:34
1st hit on ur own ES is like 3.5x what u would generate from a normal round

1st hit is high silv ...

yes i have the same feeling, too many misteries at this game kinda makes me want to unfold it

so you compare exp and silver for first battles? wow

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-12 09:13:12

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-12 15:44

your image is too small, did you capture it with cellphone?

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-12 09:19:35

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 09:12
yes i have the same feeling, too many misteries at this game kinda makes me want to unfold it

s ...

yeah on ES... the first hit is the most silver gain...

n the final blow nets u more silver then ur first hit...

author: Leitzur time: 2015-3-12 09:37:56

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-12 21:19
yeah on ES... the first hit is the most silver gain...

n the final blow nets u more silver then ...

is the final blow for ES silver depend on character lvl?

i mean, even ryoka's silver gain from killing ryoka differ by player lvls

@#team yagami
another mystery solved out of curiosity: during mid-days of ubp i encountered mystic shop and I try to buy 1 shini ura mod frag (costs around 15 coupon each). I don't take screenshot when I bought it at mystic shop but this can be a proof that mod frag can be stored even before you recruit the partner (not sure if it worked for accelerate mod though)
I get shini ura at ubp's last day and started modding him since. I have 7 frags today. (2frags x 3 days) + 1 bought from mystic shop
[attach]5165[/attach]

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-12 10:07:37

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 09:37
is the final blow for ES silver depend on character lvl?

yeah its dependin on LVL...

also... yeah when u buy mod frags in the shop... altho it wont show... even if dun hav tht partner...

but once u ve recruited him... it will show in the mod page...

i bought CSB Aizen mod frags long b4 i got him... n when i got him... its all there...

altho b4 i got him... it wasnt shown anywhere in my bags ...

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-12 11:27:48

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 08:13
your image is too small, did you capture it with cellphone?

No, from pc

author: shieldandsword time: 2015-3-12 11:40:15

Actually i need those epic material chests

author: ajoalex time: 2015-3-12 22:16:49

Leitzur replied at 2015-3-12 18:37
is the final blow for ES silver depend on character lvl?

yeah its stored, i bought shura kenny fragments before i recruited him , after recruiting him i had that 2 frag which i bought.

author: theguyinblack time: 2015-3-13 04:35:07

ajoalex replied at 2015-3-12 05:31
i wonder why its cheap in china. do they get 200g for 5$ too?

in the CN servers 1$=100g if Bleach online is the same as Unlimited ninja....

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