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author: artinfection time: 2015-3-14 20:02:55 Title: Toshiro , Stark or Hollow Ichigo ? Pros n Cons

Can someone help me here ? :/ Is toshiro worth at all ? And if yes in what strategies ? Also compare him to the other 2 vanguards if you have any feedback

author: Curls88 time: 2015-3-14 20:05:08

I had about the same issue

for toshiro, he sucks

I was thinking about starrk or hollow ichigo but I dedcided to go with starrk its better for killing aizen in hollow soul map and thats only thing i need him for

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 20:08:12

Curls88 replied at 2015-3-14 20:05
I had about the same issue

for toshiro, he sucks

toshiro dun suck...

it all depends how u wanna use him...

vs a high dmg user... i would prefer to use toshiro to debuff them...

n cut down their dmg... so i could last longer...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-14 20:14:26

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 17:08
toshiro dun suck...

it all depends how u wanna use him...

toshiro sux

u sux too pao

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author: artinfection time: 2015-3-14 20:21:11

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 20:08
toshiro dun suck...

it all depends how u wanna use him...

I thought of the same strat with high vit , the only viable option for him . Are you some kind of raper ?

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-3-14 20:33:30

starrk for aizen in hollow map and ichigo for pvp

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-3-14 20:37:15

toshiro doesnt suck lol.....

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 20:49:16

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-14 20:14
toshiro sux

u sux too pao

welll i know my toshiro sux... but i used toshiro to beat ur boss b4...

since he is damm op... i got to lessen ur boss dmg on me...

yeah i sux too... for not bein vip 10... when i should hav been...

but anyway i am luvin it... i luv to sux... i sux the titties... n the luv juices...

yummy....

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-14 20:49:29

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 17:49
welll i know my toshiro sux... but i used toshiro to beat ur boss b4...

since he is damm op... ...

o shiet

smexual dialogue

toshiro had nothing to do with it, u use a gin

reijin seijin has a toshiro

s30 has a toshiro, as well equipped as they both are, both of them suck

starrk ftw

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 20:58:44

Edited by PAOFUI at 2015-3-14 21:08

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-14 20:49
o shiet

smexual dialogue

yes it is true i use Gin to win...

but on some occasion... Gin wasnt enuf... esp when my Gin fail to stun ur boss...

n thts when toshiro comes in... at least to cut away the dmg tht ur boss deals...

i wish i save those battle reports n show it to u... xixixixi

but i do hav the report tht my ass was raped realli bad... i wonder if its still werkin...

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-14 21:10:17

just get sexy rangiku =D

but stark all the way

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 21:15:24

[email protected] replied at 2015-3-14 21:10
just get sexy rangiku =D

but stark all the way

well so far nobody hav her in the US / EU...

n i dunno how good is she...

n if u all notice... toshiro final mod...

theres a 30% chance of stun when attked...

so it might be good altho i haven final mod him yet...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-14 21:19:12

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 17:58
yes it is true i use Gin to win...

but on some occasion... Gin wasnt enuf... esp when my Gin fa ...

so wats the point of toshiro without the gin?

atleast the other vgs can fight for themselves

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 21:28:58

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-14 21:19
so wats the point of toshiro without the gin?

atleast the other vgs can fight for themselves

i still need Gin even if i am using Stark or SWP Ken...

none of my VG fight alone... coz they arent OP enuf...

pssst... i am the underdog... i fight wit my team...

all of them hav their own roles... thts how i win...

i aint like Wis... who can solo a team ... i fight him b4 usin a team n lose to him even

he is all alone... 1 v 5... n still win... now thts OP-nessss...

author: [email protected] time: 2015-3-14 21:29:58

idk the fact that reset mod isnt fix or maybe never it's abit risky thinking they'll do it lol so...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-14 21:37:10

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 18:28
i still need Gin even if i am using Stark or SWP Ken...

none of my VG fight alone... coz they a ...

u have an account on EU? ur obv over vip 10

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 21:37:12

[email protected] replied at 2015-3-14 21:29
idk the fact that reset mod isnt fix or maybe never it's abit risky thinking they'll do it lol so...

yeah certain mods r bugged... esp wit the SWP partners...

but others r doin fine...

my toshiro vg mod is doin fine... i just need time to final mod it...

n i ve got too many on my hands to mod... so it will take some time...

n hopefully by then... support or game dev will fix the SWP mod issue...

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 21:38:05

Edited by PAOFUI at 2015-3-14 21:44

YagamiLi replied at 2015-3-14 21:37
u have an account on EU? ur obv over vip 10

i do not hav an acct on EU...

but i hav access to an acct in EU which is VIP 10...

thts y i ve battled Wis n S30 b4...

besides this 2 guys in EU n on tht server...

i guess i was able to win the rest of them... on the server...

it is a very nice acct... but... there were some big mistakes on it...

otherwise i think i could even beat s30 wit it...

ermmmm adnane n 2 others know about it... was surprise u din know about it... xixixixi...

author: YagamiLi time: 2015-3-14 21:47:53

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 18:38
i do not hav an acct on EU...

but i hav access to an acct in EU which is VIP 10...

I don't pay attention to EU players

only

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author: Unholyknight time: 2015-3-14 21:48:18

Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here the best answer I can give to you

Event Toshiro- Honestly I wouldn't bother with Toshiro at this point in time but that just me, but if you really want to use him then you'll want to build him as offesivly as you possibly (need lvl 9 stones at most) can so he gets his skill off. since he lowers the opponent Vanguard attack and break defence by 25% (isn't much if your opponent is stronger that your Toshiro) this can help you out but again this is hard if you don't have high lvl stones to use. Toshiro will run into a lot of issues pass lvl 100 as most opponents you'll face will have a high break defence stat (PVE) or if your opponent can play around Toshiro entirely. Toshiro also need a Zanpakuto that doesn't drop his damage rate

Pros: can disrupt your opponent Assult line making it easier for Toshiro to Block.
Cons: High lvl stone cost for non gold spenders and isn't great at higher lvls and need a good Zan

Coyote Starrk - this is base on personal experience since my Current vanguard is Starrk, Starrk is great for the fact that he can hit everyone as well as recovering 50% HP (base on his attack damage not his max HP) but that where all the pros ends. Starrk sadly is another one of those that requires High level stones (level 9 at most) and need to get his skill off ASAP otherwise he going to be nuked long before he can go off. you also need a Zanpakuto to compliment him being a Vanguard that won't lower his Damage (Hyorimaru and Senbonzakura are your best coice)

Pros: able to recover HP off of both normal and skill hits and a all hitter.
Cons: Same as Toshiro

Hollowed Ichigo - Personally I think Hollowed Ichigo is the best Vanguard for f2p to Low VIP because he can be built both Offensively or Defensively. plus Ichigo puts a high Aid Rate on your Assult line which can a saving grace against your opponent on top of being able to recover HP for 45% (again base on his attack power not max HP). Ichigo major downfall when compared to Starrk is the fact that he only single target and some of his modifications could be a bit better (never got the point of Strategy attack on Van). otherwise this is the one I would recommand the most of the 3

Pros: Same as Starrk with the added Aid Rate on Assult line
Cons: Single target and Mods

these are just my personal thoughts and I know not everyone will agree but it really all up to you in the wnd on how you want to build your formation

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-14 22:39:12

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 21:48
Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here ...

nice detail answer ...

xixixixi...

i hav both toshiro n stark... onli thing i din get along the way was hollow ichi...

guess too late for tht...

but i do hav SWP Ken... which i think not too bad dependin on his usage once again...

toshiro... i like his - 25% of opponent VG n Assaulter attk n also break def.... very useful to reduce opponent dmg on ur team...

stark ... luv him for GW coz he can heal... n use him for hollow soul map too...

SWP Ken... he is good for Ryoka... high dmg... n can tank a lil... altho he cant be mod at the moment... n god knows till when...

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-3-14 22:45:38

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 20:48
Since not a lot of ppl like to give helpful answers (not that I mind the comedy here in forums) here ...

what about binkini rangiku who will be around 350$'s ~ 450

author: Unholyknight time: 2015-3-14 23:13:41

Edited by Unholyknight at 2015-3-14 22:31

Well seeing as now you all want my thoughts on SWP Kenpachi and Van Rangiku I suppose I can give my personal thoughts because why not I got time to kill
SWP Kenpachi (I'll include both) - Shin Shura Kenpachi is the definition of a Offensive Vanguard for a very high amount damage but as with Toshiro and Starrk, he requires lvl 9+ stones and need to get his skill off asap as I'm sure Fozzilies can disrupt your opponet strategy but the fact he only increase his own attack by 25% and crit rate by 35% may not be the best selling point for many players and also most may not like that you have to be VIP 1 just to recruit him and his cpns won't show in the shop until lvl 100. now as i said I'm including Nozarashi Kenpachi which I feel is the better of the 2 so this is the one I would recommand if your aiming for Kenpachi. what make Nozarashi amazing is the fact his skill does multiple things at one time such as Fossilizing your opponent van, Silence 2 random opponent (which can disrupt your opponent plays depending on who get silence) giving himself a attack buff of 35% and Crit of 55%, and he randomly give one of your partner full rage can really throw off who ever your fighting. the main problem that players will find with Nozarashi is in order to recruit him you need to be VIP 5 and again just like with Toshiro and Starrk need high lvl stones (lvl 9+) and need to get his Skill off ASAP and need a Zanpakuto that doesn't lower his damage rate (Hyorimaru or Senbonzakura recommended)

Pros: very Vanguard for his lvl and great upon upgrade
Cons: Same as Toshiro and Starrk and the VIP cost to recruit

Rangiku (Vanguard) - because she isn't out the current moment it hard to say how good she going to be when she arrives or if she will be nerfed. so going by her skill in the CN version of the game and going by the guide on here this is what I can give. She probally going to be the best Defensive Vanguard which the fact that she puts Aid rate on your Support line (which is great since Support normally have low HP) and due to the Hot dot being recovery over time it generally a good idea to have her Skill as soon as you can and if not she more then like makes up for it after words. I suppose the only Con I can give at this point is maybe we don't know if she'll be nerfed when she gets here in the US/EU server

Pros: can be builded either way with Aid on Support and Recovery over time on support is a plus
Cons: not knowing if she going to still be good when she gets realesed

hope this is good enough for you all and again i know most may not agree with me as these are my own thoughts on these partners

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-15 00:05:44

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-14 23:13
Well seeing as now you all want my thoughts on SWP Kenpachi and Van Rangiku I suppose I can give my ...

nice break down...

we will see Nora Ken soon... n i know the fella will goin to rape me wit his Nora Ken pretty soon...

gulps... prepares the KY first...

author: Unholyknight time: 2015-3-15 01:05:03

PAOFUI replied at 2015-3-14 23:05
nice break down...

we will see Nora Ken soon... n i know the fella will goin to rape me wit hi ...

thank you for the kind words, I try my best to give as much info to the best of my ability but I will admit I'm not the best player by any means as I have my flaws as well since a mojority of the Vanguard I either don't have (Hollowed Ichigo though I'm 3 lvls away from getting) or have no plans to get anytime soon (Toshiro and Shin Shura).

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-15 02:52:43

Unholyknight replied at 2015-3-15 01:05
thank you for the kind words, I try my best to give as much info to the best of my ability but I w ...

well at least u take the time to break it down in details...

i hardly do tht... maybe in PM i will take my time to slowly elaborate n advice ppl...

in forums i ll normally chat or troll for fun...

xixixixi...

i too am not pro... i am learnin day by day... n i do a lot of mistakes myself...

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-3-15 03:23:54

I'd love to give my opinion but I would probably get laughed at and made fun of again so good luck to you!

author: PAOFUI time: 2015-3-15 03:28:06

Brahmastra replied at 2015-3-15 03:23
I'd love to give my opinion but I would probably get laughed at and made fun of again so good luck t ...

thts the forum...

u can gif watever u feel like it... ppl can laff or cry... thts their choice...

i dun even care wat ppl thinks or say... i ll onli take the good ... n leave the bad out...

n luv trollin around...

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