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author: griffon777    time: 2015-3-29 11:55:59     Title: Best skill for ryoka??

Hi people i would like to know what skill i should use at the ryoka scorching power or incinerate?
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-3-29 12:22:28

9th skill (with zangetsu/zabimaru or kazeshini)


or 8th skill (with sogyo)
author: elitegio    time: 2015-3-29 14:43:31

9th skill (with zangetsu/zabimaru or kazeshini)


or 8th skill (with sogyo)


if you don't have sogyo then its 9th skill all the way but once the ryoka start killing you without a vanguard on i recommend running with the 8th skill that way you get a extra attack in and the damage adds up nicer that way with a van in the formation.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-3-29 14:54:54

elitegio replied at 2015-3-29 14:43
if you don't have sogyo then its 9th skill all the way but once the ryoka start killing you withou ...

I been thinking about when I have to replace my vanguard back on.  That's 10 minutes in ryokas.  Thing is, I'm thinking about getting kisuke.  So him and rukia should help a lot in damage.  

But when I put my vanguard back on, somebody has to sit down.  I don't use 8th skill, its at zero.  Instead all my scrolls go to 9th and last skill, 9th is lvl 20.  Don't have sogyo.  

What troubles me is if I should replace my renji and transfer his equipment to vanguard, so it'd be 1-2-2 and vanguard will have a boost in strength to with asaulters strength stones or use vanguard's regular equipment, which is tanky with stamina, and replace rukia and stay with kisuke so it'd be 1-3-1.

Vanguard is sajin. Asaulters are ikkaku, and renji, main is kido user.
author: elitegio    time: 2015-3-30 10:53:25

i personally run the 2-2-1 formation once my assaulter can't tank anymore and because of that i run the 8th skill and i don't need to worry because if you really think about it using the 8th skill every other attack your running something close to a 2-3-1 formation so long as your assaulter partner has good attack.
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-4-2 16:38:03

elitegio replied at 2015-3-30 10:53
i personally run the 2-2-1 formation once my assaulter can't tank anymore and because of that i run  ...

For ikkaku, in ryoka, would 8th skill work better for more damage in 2-2-1?  He gains 25% fury after skill.  

That is, if I do a 2-2-1 formation for ryoka, when I have to put my tank, him, along with kisuke and rukia.
author: elitegio    time: 2015-4-2 17:37:55

For ikkaku, in ryoka, would 8th skill work better for more damage in 2-2-1?  He gains 25% fury after skill.  

That is, if I do a 2-2-1 formation for ryoka, when I have to put my tank, him, along with kisuke and rukia.


since ikkaku can get 100% fury every turn with rukia and kisuke he out damages kenpatchi and if you add in a extra attack with the 8th skill you'd be using you'd be getting in a extra 100% damage in the same turn in which he used his skill for 260% so in 1 turn your doing 360% damage in total then it becomes every second turn because of the turn delay on the combo rate. So ikkaku can do 1340% damage compared to kenpatchi's 900% damage. (and if your wondering how i come to theses numbers i count a normal attack as 100% then the skill growth rate, so ikkaku's would be 260% then i add theses numbers together over 5 turns. I didn't factor in the 12% combo rate ikkaku has from final mod either because its to random but does become 24% chance during the time of the combo rate is active. This is also how i break it up (100%+260%+360%+260%+360%=1340%) i could be off with this but i'm pretty sure i'm correct. Kenpatchi's is (100%+300%+100%+300+100=900%))
author: elitegio    time: 2015-4-2 17:38:53

SosaRey replied at 2015-4-2 16:38
For ikkaku, in ryoka, would 8th skill work better for more damage in 2-2-1?  He gains 25% fury aft ...


since ikkaku can get 100% fury every turn with rukia and kisuke he out damages kenpatchi and if you add in a extra attack with the 8th skill you'd be using you'd be getting in a extra 100% damage in the same turn in which he used his skill for 260% so in 1 turn your doing 360% damage in total then it becomes every second turn because of the turn delay on the combo rate. So ikkaku can do 1340% damage compared to kenpatchi's 900% damage. (and if your wondering how i come to theses numbers i count a normal attack as 100% then the skill growth rate, so ikkaku's would be 260% then i add theses numbers together over 5 turns. I didn't factor in the 12% combo rate ikkaku has from final mod either because its to random but does become 24% chance during the time of the combo rate is active. This is also how i break it up (100%+260%+360%+260%+360%=1340%) i could be off with this but i'm pretty sure i'm correct. Kenpatchi's is (100%+300%+100%+300+100=900%))
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-4-2 17:52:13

elitegio replied at 2015-4-2 17:37
since ikkaku can get 100% fury every turn with rukia and kisuke he out damages kenpatchi and if yo ...

Why do you say he gets 100% fury every turn?  25% he recovers, 25% from kisuke and 30 or 35% from rukia, that is 85%.

Also I don't have sogyo, if I had sogyo I"d use 8th skill, but I"m about to get zabimaru.

My current lvl 9 skill is 20, my lvl 8 skill is 0, knowing this, for max damage at ryoka, do you recommend upgrading and using 8th skill, or continue with 9th skill?
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-4-2 21:30:03

SosaRey replied at 2015-4-2 17:52
Why do you say he gets 100% fury every turn?  25% he recovers, 25% from kisuke and 30 or 35% from  ...

If 2 of the 3 crit, Ikkaku will recover 100.

Ikakku and Kisuke crit=74 plus 30=104

Ikkaku/Kisuke and Rukia=82 plus 25=107
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-4-2 23:33:08

sirnibbles replied at 2015-4-2 21:30
If 2 of the 3 crit, Ikkaku will recover 100.

Ikakku and Kisuke crit=74 plus 30=104

Ok I see very well.  So is 8th skill worth using with ikkaku, or stick with 9th?




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