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author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:17:08     Title: Fair Game

This Game needs to stop being Pay to win. It needs to be who has skill not who has a bigger Wallet. I refuse to top up from this day forth tell this game gets more Fair. May Events be easyer to get grand prize. May you have Equal chance to fight someone who has put $100+ into this game. May this game be more about skill and less about money. May there be events that dont need top up to win. If you with me share this post may this game owners see this. Let us all stop top ups tell they make this game fair.  MAY THIS REVOLUTION START.
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2014-8-17 22:31:54

if ya don't like it, quit. how do you think these companies that make browser game are supposed to make money? Of course if someone spends real money on a game then they should have the right to be stronger. People who buy gold or whatever keep the game running for everyone.
if you can buy the in game currency for real money, then obviously they will be stronger and there is nothing you can do about that except try your absolute hardest at it.
Don't get people to "revolt" otherwise this game will die if people actually do what you said, all the browser games will die whose community didn't pay for anything
look at pockiepirates, that game is basically dead, it was my favorite browser game since it came out (i was on first day) and people got fed up with top-up events and mostly stopped topping up. There has been no update for 6 months and even the gm's are saying there will be no update, it wasn't profitable so the company stopped working on it
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 22:34:33

This game is pay to win and once they suck every single drop of juice from the players, which will be about half year-year, then they will shut it down xD
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:35:54

TicklemyTit replied at 2014-8-17 20:31
if ya don't like it, quit. how do you think these companies that make browser game are supposed to m ...

Well ya i get that but for vips to be so overpowered make it so that coupons are given out more often or something or not $100 for every event
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-8-17 22:38:27

but the top ups need to be reasonable!
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:38:28

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 20:34
This game is pay to win and once they suck every single drop of juice from the players, which will b ...

This game would be better if everyone had a equal chances at winning not just vips beating everyone
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:40:24

chamsdar replied at 2014-8-17 20:38
but the top ups need to be reasonable!

ya i could understand maybe $10 for a event but $100 for a Chance
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-8-17 22:42:04

im %100 with you brother! they should lower the prices at least
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:43:08

chamsdar replied at 2014-8-17 20:42
im %100 with you brother! they should lower the prices at least

ya its just to expensive to play the game if you want to win
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 22:51:59

I do agree prices are insane, it's much much much cheaper on the Chinese server.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:54:00

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 20:51
I do agree prices are insane, it's much much much cheaper on the Chinese server.

they just want $$$ and dont care about us. So long as they think they can take are $$$ they wont care. So may this Revolution open there eyes
             Vive La Revolution
author: TicklemyTit    time: 2014-8-17 22:54:50

if they want to spend the cash for a chance, it's their money, no sense in complaining
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 22:56:59

TicklemyTit replied at 2014-8-17 20:54
if they want to spend the cash for a chance, it's their money, no sense in complaining

any event should be equal chance for all partys. But you have to put money in for events which is unfair to other players.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:00:54

yeah but the game needs money for them to add new stuff
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:04:00

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:00
yeah but the game needs money for them to add new stuff

ya but more people would stay and top up if it was more worth it not hundreds of dollors for basicly nothing
           Viva La Revolution
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:04:19

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 21:54
they just want $$$ and dont care about us. So long as they think they can take are $$$ they wont c ...

That is not correct. They do care, the pricing system may be a little...off, but it's the same prices as in UN as well. Can't be helped I guess.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:06:24

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 21:56
any event should be equal chance for all partys. But you have to put money in for events which is  ...

If you want a fully F2P game where everyone's equal, this may not be the game for you, or any web game like this for that matter. You can't be #1 and F2P, that's all there is to it, it's not, and should not, be a possibility. The game would die if it was 100% F2P.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:06:35

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:04
That is not correct. They do care, the pricing system may be a little...off, but it's the same pri ...

Then why is it when people need support it takes days to hear back why is it that they dont merge servers more often they dont care unless you have money
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:08:46

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:06
Then why is it when people need support it takes days to hear back why is it that they dont merge  ...

Because this game has barely been out a month, not merging servers yet.

As for Support, I think I've helped out a lot of people, and got them directed and taken care of if it's something I can't help with. Support e-mail gets hundreds of e-mails a day, this is not a huge staff. It takes time to do some things.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 23:10:36

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:51
I do agree prices are insane, it's much much much cheaper on the Chinese server.

I don't think the prices are even the problem, this whole game model is the flaw.

Basically almost everything is pay 2 get or pay to participate, or you are just stuck way behind others.
And unlike other games, there is no way to earn gold by selling something to other players.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:11:10

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:06
If you want a fully F2P game where everyone's equal, this may not be the game for you, or any web  ...

but F2P should still have a chance at #1 but they dont
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:11:45

you must understand shadow like every other game that starts up for a few weeks it will not be perfect. Im Sure the creators are trying their hardest to get everything finish and they have to fix all those bug and glitches that are being reported. Then release updates and patches all that takes time and money too so just be patience and wait. Im sure you would like to say that you were  among the ones to play this game before alot of people even joined( bragging rights)
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:11:49

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:08
Because this game has barely been out a month, not merging servers yet.

As for Support, I think I ...

still think events need to be cheaper and more fair to get Dark Rukia you need like 4k gold really that doesnt seem unfair
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:14:13

Edited by shadowlaw at 2014-8-17 21:15
[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:11
you must understand shadow like every other game that starts up for a few weeks it will not be perfe ...

I want this game to just be fair and everyone have a chance at every char dark rukia  takes like 4k gold to get that doesnt seem unfair everyone should be able to get her not just vips maybe make it so the ice things dont dissapear after event so non vips can save for her
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:15:46

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 22:11
you must understand shadow like every other game that starts up for a few weeks it will not be perfe ...

Thank you sir for understanding. Most people don't.

They are extremely busy, and trying to get things done with a small staff. I'll go out of my way to keep people updated on what I can say, as well as providing feed back to the devs. I'll do my damndest to let them know some people aren't 100% happy with prices, I don't know if anything can or will come from it but we'll see.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:17:40

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 21:10
I don't think the prices are even the problem, this whole game model is the flaw.

Basically almos ...

yes maybe add more coupons or give em out more. make it so char's are cheaper or easyer to get. more options for everyone not just vips to get good items and char's
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:20:23

Edited by shadowlaw at 2014-8-17 21:22
[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:15
Thank you sir for understanding. Most people don't.

They are extremely busy, and trying to get th ...

All im asking for is a Equal chance at everything the game has to offer Char's Gear Silver and Stones this game is only fun when you vip cause to get all that stuff you need to be vip if anything add more options or chances to get coupons. I think this game would be so much better and more active if everybody had fair chance at getting everything vips should get it easyer but non vips should be able to get it to with more work.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:21:45

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:20
All im asking for is a Equal chance at everything the game has to offer Char's Gear Silver and Ston ...

I guess we'll agree to not agree, though I do think F2P should be able to get lower ranked stones atleast with Silver or something. Lots of silver.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 23:23:23

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 22:21
I guess we'll agree to not agree, though I do think F2P should be able to get lower ranked stones  ...

Stones arent really the problem, since f2p are getting like 20-30 coupons a day and even more on every 3rd day with sign-ins, ect.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:24:46

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:21
I guess we'll agree to not agree, though I do think F2P should be able to get lower ranked stones  ...

Look at the Dark Rukia event coming up only vip 8-10 gonna get her. I think everyone should have a chance at her. For Ikkaku in the Alliance Honor Shop he gonna take forever to get him for non vips but they still can get him
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 23:26:10

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-8-17 22:28
shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:24
Look at the Dark Rukia event coming up only vip 8-10 gonna get her. I think everyone should have a ...

Hmm, you are probably better off quitting this game then, if it bothers you that much,  you can already see its not for you, because Dark Rukia is the first event like this, of very many to come ._.

Half the zanpakuto's in the game are going to be like this, attainable only if you spend 6000~12000 gold and a good chunk of the partners are also like that aswell.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:29:09

Edited by shadowlaw at 2014-8-17 21:31
Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 21:26
Hmm, you are probably better off quitting this game then, if it bothers you that much,  you can alr ...

thats my point it should be fair like maybe make the events repeat and people can keep items from the events so over time non vips that are active can get them I love this game its fun and i love bleach but i cant justify spending $500 for 1 char.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 23:30:32

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-8-17 22:31
shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:29
thats my point it should be fair like maybe make the events repeat and people can keep items from  ...

But it won't become fair, because publisher gogames obviously wants to rack up money off of this title and the CN version is like that as-well, they can't and wont just change the game radically because a few people dont agree with how it runs things.

Personally i knew what kind of game this is and i threw some $$ into iit as-well, because its much easier to play it if you have at-least some top-up ability.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:31:47

Edited by shadowlaw at 2014-8-17 21:34
Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 21:30
But it won't become fair, because publisher gogames obviously wants to rack up money off of this t ...

but if enough do and top ups stop they well have to change it im not asking for anything thats unreasonable just a chance at everything this game has to offer chars, zans, gear and stones.
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-17 23:34:13

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:31
but if enough do and top ups stop they well have to change it im not asking for anything thats unre ...

If you want free events and stuff, you probably shouldn't play this, but if you want to just be top 10 for example or something, then its very possible to get there without ever topping up, just takes time and patience.

Besides, to enjoy the game, you dont need dark rukia or any other fancy zanpakuto.
author: Chaotic123    time: 2014-8-17 23:34:51

shadowlaw replied at 2014-8-17 22:24
Look at the Dark Rukia event coming up only vip 8-10 gonna get her. I think everyone should have a ...

What your problem is you never read the guides in strategy section. someone actually suggest to save your vitality for such events. I did read the guides, and I saved more than 3000 vit, well prepared for this kind of event. Before the event end, I am able to get more than 6000 vit, hopefully I am able to get the grand prize without spending gold/coupon.
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:35:31

Glasglow replied at 2014-8-17 21:34
If you want free events and stuff, you probably shouldn't play this, but if you want to just be to ...

ya but i would like to have a chance at her just to say ive had every char at least once
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:42:08

i have been playing the whole time with out gold im level 47 my guild is in the top 6 in the US S26 Servers so you really dont need to spend money at least not to me i made it this far by reading guides and being patience
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:44:32

eventually im sure when the devs have everything set up the prices will get lowered. If you like games where you can get everything in the game without paying i recommend Warframe but i think it would be a good if you stay here. I would be glad to help you out
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-17 23:48:56

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:44
eventually im sure when the devs have everything set up the prices will get lowered. If you like gam ...

i just want everyone both new and old to have a game were they can get there fav chars and weapons without topping up but just with time and Patience im on server 13 my guild number 3 and im rank 4 in arena so i know hard works pays off but i think its unfair that events are only for thoses that have money
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-17 23:59:56

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-8-18 00:01

i want you to know your point is 100 percent valid but now here is the fact. we can not do anything to change that as of now the event is already happening. The moderator said she/he will see what she/he can do so lets just wait for the next event and see what happens
author: shadowlaw    time: 2014-8-18 00:02:02

Edited by shadowlaw at 2014-8-17 22:16
[email protected] replied at 2014-8-17 21:59
i want you to know your point is 100 percent valid but now here is the fact. we can not do anything  ...

ya but i can keep this thread going just so our voices are heard
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-18 00:03:41

nice idea
author: Riiyugo    time: 2015-1-27 19:21:56

Edited by Riiyugo at 2015-1-27 19:11

While I understand the game needs to make money, it's been proven by multiple games that it does not ''have'' to be something game breaking.
I myself don't mind paying for a game... but I want a good game for that, and a good game ha's balance in my opnion {as in everyone ha's a fair chance especially end-game and most importanly pvp wise} People can pay and will pay for luxery items like cosmetics or faster xp.

people allways say don't complain, the payers keep the game alive etc. etc. but if you take away the none payers how much players do you have left? {loads of games failed scaring away people with there cash shop} being pay to win is also a bad image to have it should be play to win, pay to win faster, everyone contributes playing.

just my 2cents but what do I know yada~

{Just started this game so the negativity about pay to win is not directed to this game, can't have an opinin about that yet, just my view of pay to win in genaral}
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-1-27 20:14:09

Hope it works or noticed some of developers :S



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