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author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 18:08:20     Title: For Those Who Want to Buy Isshin!! ~~ Some Info for you

Edited by KrisKingOfLegend at 2015-4-20 17:10

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=6772546380072132&aid=54&t=1  ~~ Best battle report i cna muster for today [ Hueco mundo report ]

[size=13.63636302948px]Talent: increase 18% speed, with additional 12% damage rate   ~~~~ His talent remians the same and unnerfed
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[size=13.63636302948px]+ his mods are super hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1.040 mill BP uses retsu final mod and everyone well stacked still can't beat that final node



author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-20 18:14:26

I was able to do the final mod, some time ago:

Uruhara+Unuhona - Ishiin +Main - Hollowed ichigo

That aid is rlly needed to be able to defeat those fuckers... or just be faster &stronger
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 18:18:41

595459354 replied at 2015-4-20 17:14
I was able to do the final mod, some time ago:

Uruhara+Unuhona - Ishiin +Main - Hollowed ichigo

yup tried that i even removed fury stones and replaced with defensive type stones


I AM STILL LOSING!!!!!!!!
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-20 20:27:59

who has more speed growth rates, csb.byakuya or isshin?
author: watman    time: 2015-4-20 21:34:58

Hakuteiken Byakuya has a much higher speed growth rate

Bya: 3.9, with 1800 base, higher agility boost (not sure about %)

Isshin: 3.2, with 800 base, certain agility boost
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2015-4-20 21:38:05

watman replied at 2015-4-21 02:34
Hakuteiken Byakuya has a much higher speed growth rate

Bya: 3.9, with 1800 base, higher agility boo ...

this where the information needs to be clear but in theory bya is the faster one if both had similiar set ups, base rate ftw the win
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 21:42:52

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-20 19:27
who has more speed growth rates, csb.byakuya or isshin?

Byakuya is better but not as many combos happens

+ you don't stun the enemy AS
author: watman    time: 2015-4-20 22:03:09

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2015-4-20 21:42
Byakuya is better but not as many combos happens

+ you don't stun the enemy AS

Byakuya is better, in speed.
author: TorukPT    time: 2015-4-20 22:29:54

i have a question, im using the formation 2/2/1 with gin - unohana - shin ulqui -ss kenpachi, and my zanpakuto is kazeshini.
i was thinking to buy isshin replacing shin ulqui or wait to see tomorrow the zanpakuto in join task event, i think it will come zangetsu... what will be good for me too...
im in this question with myself if it will worth to buy isshin instead of the zanpakuto if is zangetsu.
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 22:34:15

TorukPT replied at 2015-4-20 21:29
i have a question, im using the formation 2/2/1 with gin - unohana - shin ulqui -ss kenpachi, and my ...

I say isshin is more worth it but it depends on what you need more focus on
author: TorukPT    time: 2015-4-20 22:37:58

yesterday i got ss kenpachi so im out of epics, soon im lvl 109 and at lvl 110 i will take aizen from tavern. and i dont have stuff enough (stones, weapon) for a 1/3/1 formation.
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 22:53:03

TorukPT replied at 2015-4-20 21:37
yesterday i got ss kenpachi so im out of epics, soon im lvl 109 and at lvl 110 i will take aizen fro ...

in that case get the zan but its a gamble it ay not be zangetsu
tbh i hope its hyorimaru for cheap

but any

Isshin you don't have to run a 1-3-1
author: watman    time: 2015-4-20 22:54:23

It's actually much safer to run

VG
Main - Isshin
Shini Urahara, Shinso

Than it is to run 1-3-1

Shini Urahara saves lives
author: TorukPT    time: 2015-4-20 23:01:36

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2015-4-21 03:53
in that case get the zan but its a gamble it ay not be zangetsu
tbh i hope its hyorimaru for chea ...

hyriorinmaru is a good choice too, it would help a lot for the hollow map with ss kenpachi. in that case i will see the zanpakuto tomorrow. but hyorinmaru was in the lucky cards last week, and zangetsu never was in join task i think and hyorin was in the last join task and in the other before too...
author: DeEmEn    time: 2015-4-20 23:22:31

I guess I can replace Ikkaku with Isshin for PvE. =]
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-20 23:28:12

DeEmEn replied at 2015-4-20 22:22
I guess I can replace Ikkaku with Isshin for PvE. =]

For PvE i run Isshin, MC, shura ken, Cute orihimi, Kisuke and sogyo
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-20 23:30:07

watman replied at 2015-4-21 06:34
Hakuteiken Byakuya has a much higher speed growth rate

Bya: 3.9, with 1800 base, higher agility boo ...

thanks, this is exactly what i needed.
author: watman    time: 2015-4-21 00:53:24

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-20 23:30
thanks, this is exactly what i needed.

No problem.

Including mods:
Hakuteiken Tier 4 10% speed boost

Isshin Tier 3 8% speed boost

Hakuteiken will outspeed Isshin
So if you can Hakuteiken, with a follow-up Main
You could potentially wipe out an Isshin before it gets to skill
But that's rare =P
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 00:59:17

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 01:01
am thinking of a haiku+isshin combo

btw how does void work, is it same as stun? i can then rem ...

yes its like a stun but better, it doesnt have the risk of failing
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 01:01:01

watman replied at 2015-4-21 09:53
No problem.

Including mods:

am thinking of a haiku+isshin combo

btw how does void work, is it same as stun? i can then remove my gin and use isshin instead as i get more speed to assaulters from zang than to supporters.
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 01:06:12

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 07:01
am thinking of a haiku+isshin combo

btw how does void work, is it same as stun? i can then rem ...

Yes, Void suppresses assaulters for 2 turns and only skills will damage.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 01:06:57

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 09:59
yes its like a stun but better, it doesnt have the risk of failing

ok you mean its not a chance to void, but actually cause void.  thanks

btw do we have anyone who actually stuns rather than chance to stun?
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 01:08:45

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 01:06
ok you mean its not a chance to void, but actually cause void.  thanks

btw do we have anyone who  ...

main 3rd skill i believe has 100% successrate.. other then that nope
author: Judge_Spawn    time: 2015-4-21 01:09:39

I want him but my problem is
On my server i have a rivalry with the guy in first. It all comes down to SPEED. He is stronger but i am faster.

MY harribel Clocks 107k Speed at 91 and my kuiske 130k at 102
Once my shark girl attacks his assualter first i win lol

Isshin aint gonna be as fast and if he not faster ill get wiped out.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 01:14:04

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 10:06
Yes, Void suppresses assaulters for 2 turns and only skills will damage.

ah ok, neat. how about his combo chance, how would it be used at its best? does that extra turn apply same like csb.bya and main ie not on the skill round but on the round after the skill round
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 01:14:27

I saw a battle report with someone having Isshin that used his skill after the assaulters were dead on the VG but the VG didn't get voided. Is this correct or was that a glitch? Don't see why it wouldn't have applied to VG since every other skill that targets other rows will work on others after the row their skill is used on is dead.
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 01:17:26

Edited by Aquivix at 2015-4-21 07:18
ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 07:14
ah ok, neat. how about his combo chance, how would it be used at its best? does that extra turn ap ...

Hakan uses Isshin and it always works in the same turn. His main will attack then will use skill afterwards when the combo buff is consumed. I believe the best way to abuse it is to have him go first, but I don't have him yet, so until I can test it I cannot say for sure. Already found a supurbly amazing spirits team, Isshin is all that I've been missing. Now I can just save CSB points/stones ^_^.

author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 01:20:12

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 10:08
main 3rd skill i believe has 100% successrate.. other then that nope

main 3rd skill worked only in my early levels, after that i feel its like 10% only for me lol, never seen it work.
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 01:23:14

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 10:14
I saw a battle report with someone having Isshin that used his skill after the assaulters were dead  ...

gamuza nel's skill doesn't work if there is only VG, i just saw one match where she did some heal kinda thing to my team rather than attack VG when she was using her skill attack. after that i never checked .
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 02:03:31

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 01:14
I saw a battle report with someone having Isshin that used his skill after the assaulters were dead  ...

the skill itself voids assaulters. it has nothing to do with the targets it hit (Atleast thats what i  believe it does)
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-4-21 02:04:13

lol this is old news void is a skill that only trgts asltrs period
fossiles is a skill that only tgts vg period
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 02:07:16

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 08:03
the skill itself voids assaulters. it has nothing to do with the targets it hit (Atleast thats wha ...

Why would other skills, like Shinigami Urahara, have his silence still effect the VG when support is dead then?
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 02:17:35

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 11:07
Why would other skills, like Shinigami Urahara, have his silence still effect the VG when support  ...

looks like not all skills apply on target, some are automatically aimed at certain formation lane
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 02:18:17

Edited by Aquivix at 2015-4-21 08:21
ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 08:17
looks like not all skills apply on target, some are automatically aimed at certain formation lane

It's just inconsistent effects it seems. Silence should only work on support, yet it'll still apply to VG/Assaulters if support is dead. Hence the inquiry.

author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 02:37:56

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 02:18
It's just inconsistent effects it seems. Silence should only work on support, yet it'll still apply ...

its good that there are formation llane focused skills, having void on any target it hits is just broken since its 100%
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 02:43:00

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 08:37
its good that there are formation llane focused skills, having void on any target it hits is just  ...

The same could be said for Shini Urahara. His silence can effect any lane aside from support. Or has nobody truly noticed that his skill does that?
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-4-21 02:52:08

least when i get silenced i can still kill people unlike viod i cant do anything

author: watman    time: 2015-4-21 02:55:04

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 02:43
The same could be said for Shini Urahara. His silence can effect any lane aside from support. Or h ...

Shinigami Urahara, much more powerful than you can imagine.
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 02:59:32

watman replied at 2015-4-21 08:55
Shinigami Urahara, much more powerful than you can imagine.

I love using him for that reason alone. From what others are commenting, nobody noticed that happening besides me. Maybe only mine is broken and moved to 1337 status lol!
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 03:00:45

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-21 08:52
least when i get silenced i can still kill people unlike viod i cant do anything

Actually, your counter is what kills people. So people are killing themselves, not you.
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 03:13:55

Aquivix replied at 2015-4-21 02:43
The same could be said for Shini Urahara. His silence can effect any lane aside from support. Or h ...

silence doesnt stop them from attacking, void does
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-21 03:15:24

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 09:13
silence doesnt stop them from attacking, void does

Not using skills can suck just as much. I know the difference between the two, but for a targeted row effect to apply onto a different row raises questions.
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 04:06:11

LadyKyojin replied at 2015-4-21 03:38
this where the information needs to be clear but in theory bya is the faster one if both had simil ...

Ishiin's skil>Byakua in PVE
SWP AIZEN>ishiin/byakuya PVP
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 04:07:15

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2015-4-21 04:53
in that case get the zan but its a gamble it ay not be zangetsu
tbh i hope its hyorimaru for chea ...

I'm running a 1-3-1 (even VS gin):

Uruhara-ishiin+main+sexy yoru- nozashiri VG

Skill= anti stun = LOTS OF CONTROL hehe
author: Leitzur    time: 2015-4-21 04:21:31

595459354 replied at 2015-4-21 16:07
I'm running a 1-3-1 (even VS gin):

Uruhara-ishiin+main+sexy yoru- nozashiri VG

what lv is your anti control skill?
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 04:55:55

Leitzur replied at 2015-4-21 10:21
what lv is your anti control skill?

Its called Thunder BOOM (atm lvl10).. didn't feel like lvl'ing it since I pref pve>pvp

Tbh I just take care of controlling my opponent and then the dmg doesn't matter (as long as I do more dmg than recoil dmg :p)
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 04:58:02

595459354 replied at 2015-4-21 13:07
I'm running a 1-3-1 (even VS gin):

Uruhara-ishiin+main+sexy yoru- nozashiri VG

is your main faster than most of all the opponent stunners in arena/csb you have faced?
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 05:01:51

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 10:58
is your main faster than most of all the opponent stunners in arena/csb you have faced?

I'm not a 100% t1 guy, so here's my speed list:

1) Uruhara
2)Ishiin
3) Main Main is 3rd cuz he'll trigger the combo effect from ishiin so he hit twice in the same round
4) Sexy yoru
5) VG

If I were to be a t1 guy... which could be possible (then I would either T1 ishiin/T1 shinigami Uruhara)
edit: To answer your real question: No my main isn't faster than all my oppponents I faced, ishiin is though

author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 05:44:05

[/quote][quote]he'll trigger the combo effect from ishiin

is this 100% ? cos i dont see anything about it in the skill description provided.

i have csb.bya and main(8th skill) for pve for eg, csb.bya gets the extra turn on the round after he does a skill, and the same goes for my main.
how does isshin's combo work? the isshin's combo i have seen are just 1-2% (player stats ie). how does main get a combo from isshin?
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 05:47:22

Edited by BurakCinar at 2015-4-21 06:26
ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 05:44
is this 100% ? cos i dont see anything about it in the skill description provided.

i have csb.bya ...

nope its 35% for 2 rounds so you could basically do 6 hits with ur aSSaulters at its best. combined with bya + 8th skill its 8 hits (if they stack ofc)
Edit: 7 hits* if csb bya stacks with them

author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 06:06:43

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 14:47
nope its 35% for 2 rounds so you could basically do 6 hits with ur aSSaulters at its best. combine ...

ok i am getting old, could you explain how this 35% adds to 6 hits.

so isshin increases 35% of assaulters combo rate upon skill, so i am assuming that his combo is activated on the next turn since its activated after he does the skill attack.

if so then on the next turn when isshin does an attack, the assaulter gets an extra turn. now if that assaulter/main had done his 8th skill in the same round that isshin did his skill, then main/assaulter will get another extra turn by which isshin will do an attack. so that is a total of 4 hits with isshin and main. could you explain the 6 hits?
thanks
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:08:41

it activates instantly he uses his skill (so making him go 1st is the way to go) (the combo rate applies to isshin aswell)
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:21:13

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 06:23
ok lets do another calculation

since you meant 6 hits at the best, i am guessing both isshin and  ...

i meant a formation of: isshin, 8th skill + csb byakuya xD
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 06:23:31

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 15:08
it activates instantly he uses his skill (so making him go 1st is the way to go) (the combo rate app ...

ok lets do another calculation

since you meant 6 hits at the best, i am guessing both isshin and main do their skills in the same round

1)isshin does skill and if combo activates
2)main does 8th skill
3)main does normal attack, combo activates
4)isshin does normal attack and if combo activates
   5)main does normal attack

so its just 5 hits. sorry haven't used combo players to this extent. where is that 6th hit that i am missing? since main does his combo for one round, isshin doesn't get to do his 3rd attack. or did you mean the case when main does his second attack a skill attack too?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 06:24:29


wow.... just notice... isshin for 300 bucks... wakakakakakakakakaka...

i am sure quite some ppl would like to get their hands on isshin...

author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:27:46

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 06:24
wow.... just notice... isshin for 300 bucks... wakakakakakakakakaka...

i am sure quite some ppl wo ...

yup... looks like a lot from my server might do it. a lot of people are concidering
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 06:32:53

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 06:27
yup... looks like a lot from my server might do it. a lot of people are concidering


I WILL NOT...

altho i so wanted isshin for my PVE ES...

not goin to gif my money to GOGAMES...


author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:33:56

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 06:32
I WILL NOT...

altho i so wanted isshin for my PVE ES...

looks like there's 2 of us ... altho im so tempted. i took down gin 1st minion to 36k hp today... so mad... i need like 20k hp and i can survive that last hit and finish him off!!!!!
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 06:45:13

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 06:33
looks like there's 2 of us ... altho im so tempted. i took down gin 1st minion to 36k hp today.. ...


all the best to u...

not sure y... u n absan cant finish Gin since u hav win tht 1st minion...

as eilisa said... its easier compare to the 1st minion...

hmmmmm i am not on 2nd minion of Aizen.... dang... lazy to tweak...

just lvl up a lil more n see wat happens...


author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:50:05

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 06:45
all the best to u...

not sure y... u n absan cant finish Gin since u hav win tht 1st minion...  ...

nvm.... he's down now, gin here i come... and nice dude, let me know when u beat aizen

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... 16935602&aid=54&t=1
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 06:55:24

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 06:50
nvm.... he's down now, gin here i come... and nice dude, let me know when u beat aizen

http://b ...


gratz bro...

it will take a long time more for me to b able to beat Aizen...

eilisa hav bigger chance than me...

if u look at her stuff closely n mine... we r quite the same almost...

but somehow... she is much more skillful... n realli plans it well...


author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 06:57:23

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 06:55
gratz bro...

it will take a long time more for me to b able to beat Aizen...

havent elisia topped up much more then you tho? i think ur doing fairly well being vip 9... (dunno how close u are to 10 but still)..
author: Eilisa    time: 2015-4-21 07:02:28

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 06:57
havent elisia topped up much more then you tho? i think ur doing fairly well being vip 9... (dunno ...

I'm vip 8 halfway to 9 so I don't know where that puts me on top up list O.o
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 07:08:46

Eilisa replied at 2015-4-21 07:02
I'm vip 8 halfway to 9 so I don't know where that puts me on top up list O.o


wow.... vip8 onli...

n stuff equal or better than mine...

sounds like my sensei...  lower vips who can rock ...

well no doubt there will alwiz b ppl like u...

spend minimal but max the str....


yo... wanna join me in COTK ?

xixixixixi...
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 07:09:07

Eilisa replied at 2015-4-21 07:02
I'm vip 8 halfway to 9 so I don't know where that puts me on top up list O.o

then i mustve mixed u with someone else xD arent u the one with senbon, noza ken etc?
author: Eilisa    time: 2015-4-21 07:11:29

BurakCinar replied at 2015-4-21 07:09
then i mustve mixed u with someone else xD arent u the one with senbon, noza ken etc?

that's sroo
author: Eilisa    time: 2015-4-21 07:14:11

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 07:08
wow.... vip8 onli...

n stuff equal or better than mine...

i been testing it on s32 its pretty fun won't top up there even though vip 1 is tempting for the build option <.< hoping they release s34 though playing from behind is tedious lol
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 07:24:34

Eilisa replied at 2015-4-21 07:14
i been testing it on s32 its pretty fun won't top up there even though vip 1 is tempting for the b ...


when s34 release... will keep u updated...

we will choose SHU...

i think by now we hav like 8- 10 ppl who is goin to join s34 when it opens...

we all will be united n fight for SHU ...

i am now lvl 78... i think my 8th day of playin n testin... but still lots to learn...

tactics is even more important as a team... as how we deploy our str vs opponents...

if u hav notice... SHU normally win a lot of event n there isnt much VIP in it...

compare to others i heard... but they r very united... i am still tryin to follow their strats...

the ART of WAR...


author: Eilisa    time: 2015-4-21 07:26:31

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 07:24
when s34 release... will keep u updated...

we will choose SHU...

Nice think I'm only lv72 lol i only been testing 3 days trying to figure best way to level up for bounty gold before it expires (think best option is to fight lots at start of a server kind of hard when you enter a server and there lvl 80's everywhere lol) but game is fun and its nice to see united players on forums.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 07:42:55

Eilisa replied at 2015-4-21 07:26
Nice think I'm only lv72 lol i only been testing 3 days trying to figure best way to level up for  ...



yeah its fun to see who is united... 3 kingdom game has alwiz been about unity... n teamwerk...

1 cant win it all... in this kinda of game... even if u r vip 12...

yeah when i go in n test it... i got hit left right n center.... alwiz gettin my ass raped...

wakakakakakakakaka

but its fun....


author: calmar09    time: 2015-4-21 09:15:51

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 05:44
is this 100% ? cos i dont see anything about it in the skill description provided.

i have csb.bya ...

CBS Byakuya's skill gives himself combo rate while Isshin's gives your whole assaulters lane combo rate. That's the reason it can trigger the combo on the same turn he does the skill ( If he's the first of your assaulters that goes off )
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 09:51:42

calmar09 replied at 2015-4-21 18:15
CBS Byakuya's skill gives himself combo rate while Isshin's gives your whole assaulters lane combo ...

so its basically a chance. it could be either just 1 hit or some weird combos of hits if the combo gets activated. nice
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 10:25:03

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 11:44
is this 100% ? cos i dont see anything about it in the skill description provided.

i have csb.bya ...

It doesn't say 100% but so far it works like 100% for me
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-4-21 11:01:21

ill get isshin but i dont know what my pve formion will be im now 2-2-1
ill go 2-3-0 and it will be at the back shin gin +treven urahara +isshin +sexy youru +main with that ill have t1 all the time
or shin gin +shini urahra +isshin +CBS kenpachi +main and this way ill have t1 from the combo but i need to get extra evry time if i did't that mean ill lose my t1 but at the same time i have CBS 350% and shini urahara 170% what do you think is batter ?
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 11:01:28

595459354 replied at 2015-4-21 19:25
It doesn't say 100% but so far it works like 100% for me

if so then that means no need to have the second assaulter faster, cos isshin if goes first will anyways make the next person attack in isshin's skill attack round itself. interesting
author: 595459354    time: 2015-4-21 11:21:07

ajoalex replied at 2015-4-21 17:01
if so then that means no need to have the second assaulter faster, cos isshin if goes first will a ...

Yes but make sure to make your 2nd as fast enough to counter a Gin ;) (thats if you run my 1-3-1 format)
author: watman    time: 2015-4-21 11:48:15

All about that Isshin Speed

My Isshin speed:  108k,  Yagi's Isshin speed:  111k
I lose:  http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... &aid=58&t=1

Hyogoku Jade Pill
My Isshin speed:  122k,  Yagi's Isshin speed:  111k
I win:  http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... &aid=58&t=1
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-4-21 11:52:11

watman replied at 2015-4-21 11:48
All about that Isshin Speed

My Isshin speed:  108k,  Yagi's Isshin speed:  111k

holy f*ck what a partner dude... nice!!
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 12:14:23

watman replied at 2015-4-21 20:48
All about that Isshin Speed

My Isshin speed:  108k,  Yagi's Isshin speed:  111k

that combo+skill yagi uses is exactly what i had in mind, beautiful , so it works out quite well.. and wat friggin combo is that. nice stuff there
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2015-4-21 12:24:17

PAOFUI replied at 2015-4-21 11:32
I WILL NOT...

altho i so wanted isshin for my PVE ES...

its okey bruh i take the fall this time lol wakakaka
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-4-21 12:32:51

watman replied at 2015-4-21 20:48
All about that Isshin Speed

My Isshin speed:  108k,  Yagi's Isshin speed:  111k

does the aid rate stack?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2015-4-21 12:36:28

LadyKyojin replied at 2015-4-21 12:24
its okey bruh i take the fall this time lol wakakaka



LOL... its ok... many r fallin for it... xixixixi

Om..... Om.... Om....


author: SosaRey    time: 2015-4-21 14:41:18

What anime is this on the animation? On the first page, below the threads you have an animation below, from an anime?  Which anime is it?
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2015-4-21 14:49:11

SosaRey replied at 2015-4-21 13:41
What anime is this on the animation? On the first page, below the threads you have an animation belo ...

that is Magi the Kingdom of magic [ from season 2 ]

Season 1 is called the Labyrinth of magic
author: SosaRey    time: 2015-4-21 15:02:29

Sounds very interesting, everything about ishhin but I don't know much about combo rates and combo.  I see many people in my server use 8th skill in ryoka, some even without sogyo nor dark rukia yet they still use 8th skill.  

I use 9th skill, my team is main (kido), ikkaku, SWP grimmjow, tavern kisuke, and rukia.  Am I ok, or should I switch to 8th skill? I don't have sogyo nor dark rukia.

An earlier thread in another forum mentioned I should use 9th, but still, many people in my server use 8th.
author: llKhiz    time: 2015-4-21 15:54:14

Got him. He's amazing.

Wondering how much the 8th skill stacks. Look forward to testing it out.
author: watman    time: 2015-4-21 17:53:26

I don't think 8th skill stacks 100%

Sometimes with 8th my partners go 3x
Sometimes it's just 2x

Also, during Ryoka todayZabimaru Zanpaktou

-- DMG with 8th @ level 19 #=> 43~46m

-- DMG with 9th @ level 18 #=> 48~52m

So... I don't know.
Will have to test it out more tmr

author: calmar09    time: 2015-4-21 19:22:23

watman replied at 2015-4-21 17:53
I don't think 8th skill stacks 100%

Sometimes with 8th my partners go 3x

What for those that have the DRukia/Cute Orihime + Sogyo combo? The 8th from your main only overwrites isshin's buff to your main from 35% to 100% so is not a bad idea at all. The only drawback is that isshin's buff is for 2 rounds while your main's is for 1 round.
author: llKhiz    time: 2015-4-21 19:53:16

calmar09 replied at 2015-4-21 19:22
What for those that have the DRukia/Cute Orihime + Sogyo combo? The 8th from your main only overwr ...

So you're implying that if my Main where to attack after Isshin, it would overwrite his combo chance therefore giving a 100%, but only for one round, whereas Isshins is lower but lasts for two?

I'll have to test it out later tonight. Because that would make it kinda pointless. Although having Sogyo as my Zan means the 9th skill is pointless too

I wonder if anyone knows whether Sogyo's skill and SWP Grimmjows clash? If so I probably shouldn't have been saving for him
author: calmar09    time: 2015-4-22 03:07:35

llKhiz replied at 2015-4-21 19:53
So you're implying that if my Main where to attack after Isshin, it would overwrite his combo chan ...

It appears that isshin's buff while it says 35% it triggers all the time without failure. I've watched a lot of battle reports and never seen a single partner that didnt combo after his buff.
So the best way to maximize your damage output if you have Sogyo would be to use skill 2 on your main.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-4-22 03:51:47

watman replied at 2015-4-21 17:53
I don't think 8th skill stacks 100%

Sometimes with 8th my partners go 3x

Have you tried using the 5th skill?
author: llKhiz    time: 2015-4-22 07:25:09

calmar09 replied at 2015-4-22 03:07
It appears that isshin's buff while it says 35% it triggers all the time without failure. I've wat ...

Yeah it triggers every time I've used it. Can't imagine how OP the CN version of him was with 100% fury back
author: Aquivix    time: 2015-4-22 07:53:14

calmar09 replied at 2015-4-22 09:07
It appears that isshin's buff while it says 35% it triggers all the time without failure. I've wat ...

I use Senbon and I found skill 2 to be the best compared to all the others.




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