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author: Leitzur time: 2015-4-22 21:54:47 Title: Block stones for pvp/pve questions

I have questions for you guys:

1. Anyone ever placing block stones on support for pve/pvp?
2. How do you distribute block stones for all partners for both pvp and pve? And what lvl range of stones, number of stones and total block rate recommended for each partner (VG, assaulter, support)?

Thanks

author: Eilisa time: 2015-4-22 21:58:36

If you want your vg to last longer and dish out some dmg block stones are good there.

If I could I would have max block on all my partners would mess up aoe's pretty bad till people got max break defense but as game gets later block is only really good for pve events like es / ryoka imo

author: KrisKingOfLegend time: 2015-4-22 21:59:31

Edited by KrisKingOfLegend at 2015-4-22 21:26

i only put counter, stamina, or strength on my support when ever they have room for more stones

i don't stack block on them unless its for PvE purposes BUT NOT PVP
My setup for right now

VG ~~ Stamina, strength, wisdom, counter, block, dogde

AS line ~~ Strength [ if your ghost or spirit blade ] //or// Wisdom if your a Kido user, break defense, critical rate, hit, aglity, stamina/fury/counter/strength or wisdom for added counter type defense

Support ~~ Aglity, crit rate, hit, wisdom, strength, stamina ~~ you can also use fury, counter, block

DO NOT USE DOGDE UNLESS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PARTNERS FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Break defense ~~ will pirece through enemy blocking

Critical rate ~~ increases your chance on landing a cirtical hit on an emeny causing you to do 1.5 ~ 3 x's damage more than normal

Hit ~~ Increaces chance of succefully landing a hit

agility ~~ Increases speed of a character [ THIS SHOULD THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT TO FOCUS ON speed determines the winner in 98% of all fights ]

Strength ~~ increases attack power for Ghost blade, and Spirt blade users, and adds to defense against physical attack users

Wisdom ~~ Increases attack power for Kido users, and adds defense aganist magic type users

Block ~~ increases the chance of having a successful block lower damage taken

Counter ~~ Reduces the chance of a critcal hit happening

Dogde ~~ increases the chance of having an attack miss which in turn pervents fury build up

Stamina ~~ Increases your maxium health

Aglity and Turn 1 fury [ aka skilling off on the first turn ] determines the winner of a fight in 98% of most fights

also take in consideration the partners skill

author: ajoalex time: 2015-4-22 22:02:17

i dont even have that much block, cos i synthesized them for VG, i just swap VG gear with one of the assaulter for ES/ryoka, so they reflect back some nice dmg too esp since they do the least dmg. but with the amount of break defence top players have, there is no point adding block stones to all, unless they are of say lvl 9-10 and 6 of them each. and also a skill that increases block for those players should be present too for that.

author: elitegio time: 2015-4-22 22:50:44

i only put block stones on my yoruichi when i don't have the stones to a high enough level that i can synth them into what i have on my van other wise i wouldn't put them on my supports on the fact i'd rather have more hp, wis or what ever i had to remove from them to add the block stones on them. Also helps with yoru's last mod though. The highest level block stone i have on yoru currently is only lvl 6.

author: CosmicEmperor time: 2015-4-22 23:15:29

Basically I just switch my VG's gear to my PVE assaulter (Ikkaku) remove dodge, counter stones put critical and break def stones. I leave his block stones as is (they're my highest) and I have other block stones in bag for my assaulters. [attach]5879[/attach] I put the highest block stones that I leave for assaulters to go tomy assaulter who deals the most base dmg. And as for supp I just make rukia/kisuke faster than my assaulters no block stones there they're useless on supports

author: 595459354 time: 2015-4-23 00:49:16

Royka: Basically I only give block to my VG, since he's the only1 that can tank the hit + even with 90% he doesn't block everything.

Es: I don't give block to supports since they never get attacked hence 0 use of block stones (I give a few to my AS, though: 2-3-0 setup)

PVP: Since I don't have a ton of block stones I didn't give my SP block stones... However it might be good to throw some block in (but that's rlly endgame) and if you're gonna throw in block it has to be 80-90% (or it won't have any effect).

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-4-23 01:23:57

I swap out 1 or 2 block stones for 2 assaulters. This gives me around ~30% block which is enough in combination with CSB Kenpachi. I do it on ES and Ryoka.

author: Influentik time: 2015-4-23 03:29:31

IDK, Unless you have socket stones to add some extra slots for stones on your partners equipement, and have all lv 5-8 EXTRA block stones, that you don't need for VG, I wouldn't. I would put block on my assaulter's for PVE though.

author: ryujikun18 time: 2015-4-23 05:14:35

i have all lvl 8 counter, dodge, block and almost have 90% on dodge and block but I have 100% counter on komamura everyone hates me in my server cause I like to focus on my koma hardly anyone can get a hit in

cant wait for hollow ichigo and his dodge and block mod ima really mess them up

author: moongoatie time: 2015-4-23 05:58:03

I use block on my Ken for pvp. 3lv7 and 3lv6 with block refines he has 65% block rate +10% his buff 75%. I'm not impressed by the result to be honest. He helps finish off supports like gin, but that's pretty much it.He will hardly block AOE's cuz ppl invest the most break def there. The main reason I still use this setup is because I can't invest him agility atm. I doubt it could work on supports after all. PVE is a different matter tho. I got 2nd highest PVE dmg on ES on my server, yet on ryoka I can 1hit till wave 54 while the 1st can till 53. That's cause I have 3 sets of block stones lv6-7 (plus the buff from ken) on all assaulters and they can survive ryoka's attacks, while all people put VG there cause their asSaulters are dying. Hope I could help you some.

author: Judge_Spawn time: 2015-4-23 06:44:35

My Support has block.
For mostly PVE I switch them to an assualter for PVP

For PVE its a good way to keep a kick ass support alive

author: Ragnos time: 2015-4-23 07:58:16

I usually focus on building up the block stones on my Vanguard then once the gets to like level 6 or 7 block stones on each equip I head down to the support then my best assaulters that do the most damage.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-23 16:29:29

Having all your team surpass 90% blok is end of the game, yeah i tried once giving block to urahara so he lives longer but one thing is sure you'll ifng people in pvp with higher break defense*

As for pve only vg to sustain ryoka waves 60 and , in hueco i just give their stats are too much

author: gr8nesh18 time: 2015-4-23 17:44:25

[email protected] replied at 2015-4-23 16:29
Having all your team surpass 90% blok is end of the game, yeah i tried once giving block to urahara ...

wrong without vang u can survive till 66 wave

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-23 18:26:57

gr8nesh18 replied at 2015-4-23 23:44
wrong without vang u can survive till 66 wave

talk for your behalf mate not mine, last time i cheked my asaulters die without vg at wave 60,

also how can somebody be wrong about that it depends on your lvl gear and upgrades, a lvl80 will explode starting wave 50, while a lvl100 can do fine, if you're lvl120+ i'm willing to believe that wave 60 is doable without vg, it's a question of perspective mate so don't come and tell me that what i said is wrong, i'm playing this fuking game long enough to know at least what i'm saying is whrite.

PEACE!

author: ardeof time: 2015-4-23 19:34:47

Typically:

Vanguard gets Block, Stamina, both Strength and Wisdom, Counter, and Dodge. Vanguard gets both Strength/Wisdom, otherwise they won't be able to tank the Supporters/Assaulters.
Assaulters typically get Strength, Stamina, Break Defense, Hit Rate, Critical Rate, and Counter/Block (Sometimes depending on which character you're using, when it comes to endgame)
Supporters: Wisdom, Stamina, Break Defense, Hit Rate, Critical Rate, and Counter/Block.

As for a team with Agility (Sometimes referred to as "First turn fury"), you'd replace the last of the listing, which would be the rightmost stone listed. Example:
Vanguard (Sometimes stays the same, this is also based on the skill. Starrk may benefit more from agility than a character such as NNoitra, etc)

Assaulters: Strength, Stamina, Break Defense, Hit Rate, Critical Rate, and Agility instead of Counter/Block

and so on. Kind of a boring option for spirit stones, and every character ends up with essentially the same stone sets either way.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-25 06:13:06

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-4-25 19:15

Block stones are good for assaulters and vanguard only.. Minimum lvl of 5..
For the supports.. Stamina. Counter. Wisdom. Strength. Critical. Agility..

author: [email protected] time: 2015-4-28 08:18:49

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-4-28 21:22

It will be a good strategy by putting block stone on main character but it should be high lvl stone cuz you can attack back when you are being attacked by skill

But to me, my recommendation is just focus your block stone to your vanguard cuz he is the mostly who will take damage from enemy

If you want to make it more tactical, you can increase your vanguard damage to send back a high damage when blocking

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