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author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:01:31 Title: Block and counter

How does block and counter work here ? Is block must to have for counter to work ? #Confused

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:07:51

Block lowers dmg on you as well as reflects some back on enemy.

Counter lowers the chance of you being crit hit and lowers crit dmg on you.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:09:31

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:07
Block lowers dmg on you as well as reflects some back on enemy.

Counter lowers the chance of you be ...

So its not like you need to have high counter for block to work or something?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:17:53

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:09
So its not like you need to have high counter for block to work or something?

No you don't need high counter for block to work...2 different abilities.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:19:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:09
So its not like you need to have high counter for block to work or something?

Hit / Dodge
Counter / Crit
Block / Break Defense
Str/Wis / Stam

Pretty much the ying yang of the stones.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:24:43

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:19
Hit / Dodge
Counter / Crit
Block / Break Defense

Thank you very much ^^

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:26:40

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:24
Thank you very much ^^

Np, anytime

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:43:42

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:26
Np, anytime

One more thing how does block damage work ?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-23 23:50:05

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:43
One more thing how does block damage work ?

When your character blocks dmg, it will (though NOT 100% SURE numbers) block half the dmg, and reflect it back onto the attacker. The higher your block the more it happens.

author: korogan time: 2014-8-24 00:01:13

block damage works on the char/crew atk

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:23:04

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:50
When your character blocks dmg, it will (though NOT 100% SURE numbers) block half the dmg, and ref ...

No no I mean the damage % that gets reflected how does that work how to make that higher

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:24:26

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-23 22:50
When your character blocks dmg, it will (though NOT 100% SURE numbers) block half the dmg, and ref ...

I mean the damage that gets reflect back how does that work what is the % and how to make it higher

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:27:47

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-24 00:24
I mean the damage that gets reflect back how does that work what is the % and how to make it highe ...

The higher your block the more dmg it will reflect, and I imagine however much you get attacked for.

Basically, the more block % you have the better.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:36:35

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-24 00:27
The higher your block the more dmg it will reflect, and I imagine however much you get attacked fo ...

Are you sure about that cause i battle a strong guy blocked him but it reflected 5 damage to him where as he dealth like 1k+ damage on and i have 35% block

author: korogan time: 2014-8-24 01:38:20

like i said block damage = crew/char physical or strategy

atk

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:39:16

korogan replied at 2014-8-24 00:38
like i said block damage = crew/char physical or strategy atk

So it defect your normal attack kind of damage ?

author: korogan time: 2014-8-24 01:44:25

yep just making it simple

block % = chance of blocking
block damage = the normal atk of your crew/char

simple as that

author: [email protected] time: 2014-8-24 01:45:03

korogan replied at 2014-8-24 00:44
yep just making it simple

block % = chance of blocking

Thank you ^_^

author: korogan time: 2014-8-24 01:47:58

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-24 00:45
Thank you ^_^

NP glad that i help

author: bangladesh3610 time: 2014-8-24 11:19:14

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-24 01:36
Are you sure about that cause i battle a strong guy blocked him but it reflected 5 damage to him w ...

it depends on the opponents defense if he has very high physical/startagy dmg it reflects less back to him

author: lordbooo time: 2014-8-24 15:23:59

If I'm not mistaken when you block you the reflex damage is a normal attack (maybe slightly reduced). Since tanks don't hit for much that why it doesn't deal much.

author: ANOwen time: 2014-11-16 10:06:36

No, it's not reduced, it is exactly the same damage as if you do a normal hit. I tested it a lot of times : when i get hit and reflect damages, it is exactly yhe same damage as I would have hit it by myself (whether the damage I do is 5, 837 or 1256).

Also, the math aren't that simple with probabilities, let me explain.
Character A has a% breack defense rate and hit character B who has b% block rate.
Let's assume the hit rate is 100%.
So basicaly, character B has b/100 probability of blocking, but character A has a/100 probability of breaking this defense. So finaly, character A have (1-b/100) (not blocked) + (b/100)*(a/100) (blocked but breacked) probability to make a clear hit.

Example with my characters : 40% break def for 50% block.

(1-50/100) + 40*50/10000 = 50/100 + 20/100 = 70/100 so 70% to hit without being reflected. It works the same way with dodge/hit rate.

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