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author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 05:01:33 Title: Need Help

Hi all,
Im lvl 110,at 1mil bp,f2p
My current formation Hollowed Ichigo-Main(kido)-Ikkaku-Gin-Aizen.
Need some help with shinigami Urahara(t1) and shinigami Yoruichi(t1),my oponents team is weaker than mine(though the're vip4+),
my strategy is to 1shot them with mains 10th skill,and with the arena buff i can hardly 2 shot their team.
My Gin's speed is lower by ~2k,but it's not a problem i can upgrade it soon with new set,and Aizen's speed is lower by ~20k(i just got him),
but it also doesnt matter because they get sillenced by Urahara.
Need some advices here,i have some ideas but it'll take ~3 months to make them true.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-23 05:29:46

The day they introduced the arena HP buff, you should've realised the 1shotway wasn't going to last.

Change your strategy to a control team and you'll have 100%win chances.
Either make your Shini yoru faster than your opponents team (think she won't get hit that way)
Or make your shini uruhara faster than his, etc

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 06:05:15

Edited by MazdaRX8 at 2015-5-23 06:07

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 05:29
The day they introduced the arena HP buff, you should've realised the 1shotway wasn't going to last. ...

u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru or shini ura?
i asked about some strategies to counter them(t1),not how to use them(i know it perfectly)
and untill recently i could easy 1 shot their AS and SUP,just vg left(my dmg on main is high enough+ it's kido type so i kill easy AS and SUP usually have low hp)
About control team i said that i have Gin+Aizen,arent they control type?
and it doesnt matter my speed on them if the enemy is t1(as in my situation) it's no use

author: Chkval time: 2015-5-23 07:44:13

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 13:05
u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru ...

It depends if you have urahara and rukia as partners, and if they are final modded or not. And i said urahara and rukia, since you're f2p.

If not, then it's gonna be a long way, since you need the fury stones no matter how you look at it.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-23 08:22:09

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 12:05
u misunderstood....i said that my team is ichigo,ikakku,gin,aizen.Did i said that i have shini yoru ...

yeah misread that

Well even as a f2p it's possible to start with t1uruhara and another character (eventually/depending how you spent your coupons).

But in case you can't do that, you'll have to go for the other method: tank the 1st hit and control.

VS shini yoru: your gin/dmg dealer has to be faster than her (or you'll never be able to kill her unless trough block)

VS shini uruhara (t1): nothing that you can do vs that, besides killing his support or getting your own T1 fury

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 09:30:34

Chkval replied at 2015-5-23 07:44
It depends if you have urahara and rukia as partners, and if they are final modded or not. And i s ...

i can get t1 urahara,but need some time to reach lvl 100 on him and mod,
but this mean that i'll have to go 1-1-3(need a lot of wisdom stones which is imposible as f2p) or to change gin/aizen(no good option)

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 09:41:39

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 08:22
yeah misread that

Well even as a f2p it's possible to start with t1uruhara and another character ...

vs shini yoru isnt as simple as u may think,i kill allmost all my oponents team with my 10th skill(everyone with hp less than half) and other parteners kill vg and main.and gin is stuned by shini urahara
yoruichi is invunerable and urahara(still alive with ~20%hp)keeps filling her fury and she cast her skill every 2 rounds...imposible to win,even with block

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-23 10:54:05

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 15:41
vs shini yoru isnt as simple as u may think,i kill allmost all my oponents team with my 10th skill ...

I could show you a link where my Vg destroys the whole opponent's team.. inlcuding shini yoru with block but that won't help you. I'm just listing the things you could do:

In case your opponent has both shini yoru and uruhara t1.. then yeah, he's the one controlling you.
There are always a few characters that you can't go around, certainly if you're a f2p.

author: Chkval time: 2015-5-23 11:46:12

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 16:30
i can get t1 urahara,but need some time to reach lvl 100 on him and mod,
but this mean that i'll h ...

I did not say you'd have to go 1-1-3. With kisuke t1 going 1st on your team, you'd need 25 max to 13 min fury for every other partner to skill (depending on your accessories).

Partner him up with Aizen, who's faster than the other team's supports, so he takes them out: if you get lucky with a stun, plus the fury deduction regardless.

If your main gets to skill, and as you claim, can wipe out the supports, then you're halfway there. If not, then you'd need another aoe partner, such as byakuya or swp ulqiorra, to finish the job.

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 12:31:35

Chkval replied at 2015-5-23 11:46
I did not say you'd have to go 1-1-3. With kisuke t1 going 1st on your team, you'd need 25 max to ...

yeah,i thought just the same.
I cant get swp ulquiorra(vip1 restriction)but i want to get csb byakuya,or csb aizen.
thanks for adivces

author: Chkval time: 2015-5-23 12:32:49

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 19:31
yeah,i thought just the same.
I cant get swp ulquiorra(vip1 restriction)but i want to get csb byak ...

Yeah, i forgot about that swp restriction, but glad i can be of help

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 12:35:10

Edited by MazdaRX8 at 2015-5-23 12:38

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 10:54
I could show you a link where my Vg destroys the whole opponent's team.. inlcuding shini yoru with ...

I bet that your vanguard isnt one that a f2p can build

The funny thing is that my oponents are eighter 200k bp less(with shini yoru and shini urahara t1,good team but weak built) or 200k bp more(with op team that i can win with lucky stuns) and i could win them recently

need new strategy against them,thanks for advices

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-23 12:57:40

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 18:35
I bet that your vanguard isnt one that a f2p can build
The funny thing is that my oponents are e ...

That's probably because fury stones don't give BP points + they tend to stack a few stones on 1-2chars ;)

Best is to try and get t1 with uruhara and another char (even as a f2p it's possbile, just takes time)

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-23 13:09:11

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 12:57
That's probably because fury stones don't give BP points + they tend to stack a few stones on 1-2c ...

i can make t1 urahara and 2 more parteners,but as i said it wont be a control team anymore

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-23 13:10:42

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-23 19:09
i can make t1 urahara and 2 more parteners,but as i said it wont be a control team anymore

It will be lol, at least this way you can actually do something.

Uruhara --> tavern aizen = Counter SP
Uruhara --> Gin = Counter AS

So what you're gonna have to run is a 3-1-1
Uruhara - tav aizen - gin / Main /vg

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-24 04:30:37

595459354 replied at 2015-5-23 13:10
It will be lol, at least this way you can actually do something.

Uruhara --> tavern aizen = Count ...

3-1-1 formation wouldnt be that bad,but considering that i'm kido class,and i try to 1shot enemy team with 10th skill,it'll be troublesome to make another lvl 7-8 wisdom stones set.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-5-24 06:29:56

MazdaRX8 replied at 2015-5-24 10:30
3-1-1 formation wouldnt be that bad,but considering that i'm kido class,and i try to 1shot enemy t ...

Control characters don't neccesarily need dmg, they are there for the control ;)

they do need crit/break defence and agility though

author: MazdaRX8 time: 2015-5-25 06:03:02

595459354 replied at 2015-5-24 06:29
Control characters don't neccesarily need dmg, they are there for the control ;)

they do need cri ...

I am chosing between 2 formations:
1) 1-1-3,hollowed ichigo-main(kido)-kisuke-gin-aizen
where i have to synthesize all my wisdom stones and make
2 sets of high lvl stones,one for main and one for another suporter(when i'll swith to retsu),
synthesize all agility spirit stones to make 3 high lvl stones just for 3 suports,
and strenght stones all to my vg
2)1-2-2,hollowed ichigo-main(kido)-csb byakuya-gin-aizen
no need to make any changes with spirit stones

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