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author: shader99    time: 2014-8-26 23:01:15     Title: this game is a money raping machine of death?

they expect me to just top up again to replace a large amount of missing gold. ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
author: Glasglow    time: 2014-8-27 07:17:40

      Well put.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-27 10:04:28

lmao yes and you made my day
author: benjiji    time: 2014-8-27 10:39:51

lol its 20 Yes and 0 No )) well its the harsh truth but thats how it is these days

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author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-27 11:25:07

benjiji replied at 2014-8-28 01:39
lol its 20 Yes and 0 No )) well its the harsh truth but thats how it is these days

Unfortunately as benjiji said most games are like these in this day and age with micro transaction...

BUUUT! you have to remember that this game isn't being sponsored by any big companies like COD and WoW etc. are! they need to get there funding from either the aired bleach episodes (I'd assume almost dwindled) or from Japanese sponsors which let's be honest here... to run a US a EU a CH and I think a few other entire servers (even on a game with such low graphics) with 60-150+ per day 24/7 and ontop of that 20+ servers per zone! it's not exactly a cheap thing
author: benjiji    time: 2014-8-27 12:56:47

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-27 10:25
Unfortunately as benjiji said most games are like these in this day and age with micro transaction ...

i own a server so i know how hard it is to mantain it ( not a server here lol , another game )
author: benjiji    time: 2014-8-27 13:01:40

Edited by benjiji at 2014-8-27 12:04

... sorry i posted on the wrong one
author: loljk1337    time: 2014-8-27 13:04:25

benjiji replied at 2014-8-27 09:39
lol its 20 Yes and 0 No )) well its the harsh truth but thats how it is these days

thats some disturbing underwear ya got there
author: benjiji    time: 2014-8-27 13:13:25

loljk1337 replied at 2014-8-27 12:04
thats some disturbing underwear ya got there

dont insult my underwear !!
author: shader99    time: 2014-8-27 21:06:16

yea people stealing from you don't count if it happens on the internet?
stealing is ok because they need money?

what are we trying to say here?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-8-29 15:25:30

Like any game top ups gonna win but this game is a little more oriented then others mostly because of weekly events only being top up and the aliance shop. Personaly i only spend as much on a f2p game as i would on a consol game so im vip 4 and i love benifets of it and is till have fun but there will always be those who will pay more then you, im lucky that vip 4 is enough for me to be 2nd on my server lol
author: Ezekeial    time: 2014-8-29 20:44:32

Edited by Ezekeial at 2014-8-30 11:47

It is if you're aiming to be the top on a server, PvP it is a huge bonus if you have higher spirit stones. Apart from that I feel you can still enjoy the game just as f2p player, just don't expect to be #1 on the server.
author: lordbooo    time: 2014-8-30 16:05:44

[email protected] replied at 2014-8-29 14:25
Like any game top ups gonna win but this game is a little more oriented then others mostly because o ...

In my server the 4th rank player in VIP 4. He is doing better then some VIP 6 players in my server.
author: supertricker    time: 2014-8-31 20:06:23

try playing dota2 its not a p2w
author: Selphie_Timilt    time: 2014-8-31 20:11:31

Edited by Selphie_Timilt at 2014-9-1 13:13
Ezekeial replied at 2014-8-30 13:44
It is if you're aiming to be the top on a server, PvP it is a huge bonus if you have higher spirit s ...

Well put. I looked at the things you get free just within 3-4 days I have like 2k skill scrolls and all sorts of other goodies its p2w but at least they give everyone the ability to play and tbh you can still do everything this game offers.. will just take 3-4x longer maybe shorter if your a smart and wise player who can spend your coupons well we have 2 VIP 0's * so they say *  who are top 5 in our server atm. I can't beat them and I am vip 6.  
author: inSec    time: 2014-9-7 19:08:29

Edited by inSec at 2014-9-7 19:10
Selphie_Timilt replied at 2014-8-31 20:11
Well put. I looked at the things you get free just within 3-4 days I have like 2k skill scrolls and ...

its easy to check if they are vip or not. First see if they have rangi, second during events look at how fast they attack on evil, if its as fast as you then they have skip so atleast vip4 honestly best way to tell is to look at there achievements. It tells you if they have the 1k gold which would be vip 3 or 4 and then the vip6 icon and then the vip10 icon so you can't really lie about being vip or not lol.
it is possibe for them to beat you if you messed up in spending your gold and they got the rewards from being in the best guild for the cool events and etc. I myself on UN beat 3 of the vip 6s on my server and in EM beat ppl with 50-60k more bp than me with 10 more lvls as a vip4 cause i didn't make any mistakes and played smart.
author: Selphie_Timilt    time: 2014-9-7 20:57:43

inSec replied at 2014-9-8 12:08
its easy to check if they are vip or not. First see if they have rangi, second during events look a ...

they are most likely lying and a lot of them were buffed by the starting events, I know, and I spent most of my money on later items like cyclone pieces.. and barlog so they only beat me because they get to the level first like now 2-3 of them are 67-70 and I am only 64 so they have kazeshini and gold partners, so they win of course but it all comes down to how smart you spend your gold your right, this game can be a money raping machine of death very easily if you spend 400-1000 coupons / gold wrong
author: inSec    time: 2014-9-7 22:07:23

Selphie_Timilt replied at 2014-9-7 20:57
they are most likely lying and a lot of them were buffed by the starting events, I know, and I spe ...

its really each to check how much they have topped up so they can't lie or you can catch their lie if they are. go to their achievements, and look at the 3rd tab (the star icon and the 3rd achievements tells you how much gold they have topped up if under 1k and if over if they are vip6 more ;)
author: lowkick1    time: 2014-9-20 22:11:11

You probably mislead the readers with your thread title and optional poll.

How we interpret it: OP is mad that this game eats his money, and wanted to see everyone's elses opinion if this game is a huge money sink.

If you are trying to say that you had a lot of gold on your account, and that it went missing without you purchasing anything, or without someone else using your account, then you did not explain yourself well.
author: gunslingermike    time: 2014-9-27 16:05:34

I don't have a problem buying gold, it helps to keep the game going, and these guys deserve to get paid.  What i dislike is the guys in game that hate on gold buyers.  There is one on us49 named ryu and he attacks anyone he deems is gold buying.  It's almost not worth playing when there are people out there doing this.  I work, take care of my kids, and should not have to be insulted for trying to have a good time.  I've literally spent the past month as a slave to this guys guild mate because i can afford to buy gold.  If something isn't done about people like this then these games are doomed. Again his name is RYU us49 he is in hellsquad.   If there are any other goldies out there that can help to remove him or at least make his life miserable i would greatly appreciate it.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-27 18:01:16

gunslingermike replied at 2014-9-27 15:05
I don't have a problem buying gold, it helps to keep the game going, and these guys deserve to get p ...

Let's not start a witchhunt here or single a player out.

If he is causing that many issues simply block him in chat and you never have to hear him again.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-9-29 01:06:07

gunslingermike replied at 2014-9-27 15:05
I don't have a problem buying gold, it helps to keep the game going, and these guys deserve to get p ...



yo gun... just ignore such ppl ...

there will alwiz b ppl like this in any games u play ... esp when u top up n they dun... they r just bein sour
tht vips wins most of the time...

in my server there is such ppl too... well i am not even annoyed by them... instead i like those kinda of ppl...
at least they keep the server world chat alive by their ranting... wakakakakakakaka...

well ppl like them fail to see thts reality... its not onli in game but its also in real life... if u get wat i mean...

as for me... i alwiz ignore ppl who gif bad comments or bein sour... they can say wat they wanna say...
its their freedom of speech...

n yeah... game company deserved to be paid... someone got to support their bizness so tht others can play
this for free... they just dun understan this too...

well altho ppl r payin for this game... but i realli hope game dev would improve in their service n also
listen to wat gamers wans... eg. better events. price cuts . not nerfin events like wat they do in here.
failin to do so... even payin gamers will leave the game early... or stop
toppin up... thus makin them earnin less n game dyin off early...

author: hecks567    time: 2014-10-2 05:55:55

is this game robbery. yes

did the math today. as a new event poped up "lucky turntable" the one you get toshiro hitsugaya if you get 13000 event points. if you log in every hour of the day for the full 5 days for the event to clock a total of 24 uses of the lucky turntable you next your self a whooping 240. so i'm not adverse to supporting games i like, spend a bit of money here and there for things i really want. so started doing the math for just how much gold id need to get toshiro hitsugaya

if you buy 735 gold and use it in the event you net yourself 510 points and it says "a return 255 gold value". assuming the dubious "gold value" means actual gold.

wheather of not the return value meas u get rebated you still have to amass 183750 gold which translates to around $4,500 if you do get rebated gold your look at around $3.500

all this for just toshiro hitsugaya in the event. this isnt even a game per se merely a stats collecting game then it all auto . i love bleach and it why i play but so far its its only selling point.

events for special partner/zanpukto collection now out the window, now the only challenge is to see how successful i can get without using gold.
author: nose2011    time: 2014-10-2 06:13:11

They say if You cannot Beat them Join them
author: Brahmastra    time: 2014-10-3 08:15:59

hecks567 replied at 2014-10-2 04:55
is this game robbery. yes

did the math today. as a new event poped up "lucky turntable" the one you ...

Let me calculate it once more:

13000/510=25.49 times. Let's leave it at 25 due to free daily chances.
25*735gold=18375 gold total.

20000 gold = 500 USD
2000 gold = 50 USD

20000-2000 = 18000gold
500-50 = 450 USD

450 USD or 356EURO for Toshiro

Mysterious Raffles:
Note this is free after buying points for Toshiro.
25x255gold= 6375gold value
6375/150=42 chances to get fury, silver, hogu, reishi etc.

Topping up 15k will give you a 15% increase which will give you 2250 gold extra, ~17000 total.
15k gold is around 350 bucks, indeed.
author: WeissGame    time: 2014-10-5 01:37:38

Edited by WeissGame at 2014-10-5 09:40

I think everyone has long since given up on GoGames lowering their prices..

You can get Toshiro for 20k more or less 350-400$ on CN its 45-50$
So if people are really thinking of going to the TOP i would recommend starting to save up massive amounts of GOLD cause if Tensa Zangetsu - Bikini Companions - Shura Kenpachi prices on US/EU will be x6 too (well i guess they will lower to ... x5...) then you will
go waaaaaay over VIP10 long before you get all the top companions.



author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-5 23:07:47

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-5 22:10
WeissGame replied at 2014-10-5 00:37
I think everyone has long since given up on GoGames lowering their prices..

You can get Toshiro for ...

Toshiro cost a lot more on CN the first time he was ever put out, we are looking at prices over there now where he's been out several several several times and it's been way lowered. He's 5k in this same event over there now, as is most of the other partners due to them being out several times by now.

Also, we won't see Tensa Zangetsu anytime soon, as it's not even out on CN servers. The next Zan we see will be either regular Zangetsu, Muramasa, or Hyrorinmaru. I expect one of those to be in the next event, or the event after.
author: deimudda    time: 2014-10-6 20:36:43

In my opinion the problem is that playing without top up here makes absolutely no sense. That is also why i started hating this game within 1 week.
I mean needing funds and all is ok but what they are doing is whoring themselves and the game out to people who appearently have somebody shoving the money up their behinds in unlimited quantities, thus making skill and commitment to the game lose all value.

I once thought the idea of top up was to show your apreciation of the work the developers and those who maintain server etc. do and get some perks in return but here it is paying more than most actually good game (which this is not one of them) cost in order to make up for one´s lack of time and skill.
But since as mentioned above all online browser games (at least most) have become like that i guess it is time for me to say fuck that and wish you guys fun and best of luck...
author: battletag    time: 2014-10-7 06:56:42

i topped once so get ranriku..........not top again.............it crazy ask price for things..........i not earn alot and i not waste whole pay check on this game
author: ajoalex    time: 2014-10-8 05:13:08

i did a top up once to get some stones. now i have created a google spreadsheet to understand how spirit stones work for each player, i am trying to learn its mechanisms and not blindly play the game. so for me, its amazing. and i will keep my top up money for now, and will spend only if and only if i need to. as of now there are some tough competitors in arena and hopefully it will stay for some more time .

if someone is worried about the money, then play games like Path Of Exile. you donate but that goes only into the cosmetics of the characters and not into fighting abilities/stats. No one is forcing anyone . cheers !!
author: Shahadem    time: 2014-11-4 00:31:37

If you want to know what value for money isn't, this game is a perfect example.

If you want to know what value for money is, look at most other video games.
author: DarthVille    time: 2014-11-5 21:18:09

Edited by DarthVille at 2014-11-6 04:31
If you want to know what value for money is, look at most other video games.


It's simple with 50$ you can buy a decent game, single player or online, there are some online mmmorpg good that cost 50$ + - , there are not free to play, but after you buy them you can go and play as long as you want knowing that the difference is only style or strategy

with this game is the other way ... it's a free to play but a pay to win, here with 50$, you get vip 4, after that you If you want , silver, a chance in events premium awards, don't know a special partner... you need to pay more and more, this games are only for moment since the management is very poor, people will come and go, regular or gold buyers, no matter if you are free, vip4, vip10 for you to play you need other people to play as well so this game is like Krypton we all know he's gone blow




and like a proof,  70% of players are looking like this
you know why ?
because this game is way to expensive for a kid to play...
author: Shahadem    time: 2014-11-16 11:00:42

DarthVille replied at 2014-11-5 20:18
It's simple with 50$ you can buy a decent game, single player or online, there are some online mmm ...

Honestly the game is way too expensive for any rational person to play.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-16 11:50:51

DarthVille replied at 2014-11-5 20:18
It's simple with 50$ you can buy a decent game, single player or online, there are some online mmm ...


holy cow... thank god i dun look like this...

i guess i belong to the 30% group ?

yeah if my kid plays n he tops up like me... i am goin to gif him a good lecture...

wakakakakakakakaka...
author: kuntiger    time: 2014-11-23 06:31:20

İt's expensive, you are right. But as someone said before: "stealing" is not the right word for this situation. Most of the games are like this. However you can improve yourself in this game without any payment. I know that who pays for it get stronger than you. But this game is not just about pvp. It also includes pve, a huge one.



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