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author: Ezekeial time: 2014-8-30 20:15:23 Title: Mid 50s+ PvP team (supports help)

Edited by Ezekeial at 2014-8-31 11:24

So I've been thinking about mid tier PvP as our server has many 50/60s now, it seems like the ability Orihime does is quite useless mainly due to the fact that everyone around this rank plays anti-heal.

Do you think a group of; Rukia/Momo, Rukia/Nanao or Momo/Nanao would be the strongest? Or maybe you prefer Orihime's healing.

author: fyzxme90 time: 2014-8-31 02:07:34

For me PvP Inoue is most important until lvl 70..

The problem is anti healing..

So U have to make momo faster and totally stunned the assaulter..

until u make some progress to lvl 70..

change Momo to Yoruichi..

author: Selphie_Timilt time: 2014-9-3 19:52:29

fyzxme90 replied at 2014-8-31 19:07
For me PvP Inoue is most important until lvl 70..
The problem is anti healing..
So U have to m ...

As he said ^ Inoue is still good not all people use anti-healing and if they use anti-healing they are weak to your momo, or can't buff their main. Still works in your favor

author: korogan time: 2014-9-6 03:13:18

rukia/momo is decent if you think you go all out atk

ori/momo for supporting vanguard if you think battle will last long

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-6 08:15:49

If you want to run a killer PvP combo, then i would suggest.

Main+ Ichigo/Lissa and Momo/Orihime.

This composition has very little counter to it, unless the opponent is running the same composition, you will win most, if not all of your PvP.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-7 11:57:56

Dear Ezekiel i understand why i cant beat u cause i cant stun u ever with my momo infact i dont want to change my array till the lvl 70 =) than i replace orihime or mom with soifon maybe than i can defat u and white obama not play much these day yet we cant take him 1st place even ur guild friend honda katsu cant beat him? He has too much bp cause his lvl 60 sets :S

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-8 14:23:37

Have you ever thought about asking your question in the right section of the forums? Please don't fill up the important strategy guide section with simple questions, when you do this important guides are pushed down to where they aren't seen by people who need them.

momo orihimi even even with anti heal being used commonly soon that wont happen anymore anyways plus they can always just swich to anti stun to counter you other wise, but if you use both they cant counter both :p, back in day when my server was around that level there was someone who was weaker then me and i used anti heal but he made his healer faster then my main so turn2 first person to go was his healer who healed all damage of turn 1 hsi second fastest being his main using anti heal went befor my healer meening he got full hp turn 2 where i had a useless team member and a dead tank lol just dont count out orhimi for anti heal times plus she is still usefull in other things in game im level 85 almost 86 i still use her

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-13 19:12:06

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-9-14 00:14

Glasglow replied at 2014-9-6 13:15
If you want to run a killer PvP combo, then i would suggest.

Main+ Ichigo/Lissa and Momo/Orihime.

I totally agree with this compo, well i have to wait to see if the chrismast Ichigo is still on the rewards or not.
For now the best strat between 50 and 70 is to recruit lisa and momo then depending on the situation make a 1V 3 Ass and 1 Supp if you think you'll win fast, or if the fight will be tight use a 1V 2A 2Supp

The 1V 1A 3Supp never tried it anyone who can tell us?

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-13 19:18:35

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-13 18:12
I totally agree with this compo, well i have to wait to see if the chrismast Ichigo is still on the ...

1-1-3 is bad in PvP at level 50~70, supports don't deal enough damage to kill anything, unless you geared up your main with rank 9 stones, and have fully upgraded Ultimate gear (The lv60+ one).

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-13 19:23:51

Glasglow replied at 2014-9-14 00:18
1-1-3 is bad in PvP at level 50~70, supports don't deal enough damage to kill anything, unless you ...

Yeah i was almost sure the last strategy won't be of any help (99.99%) anyway i've just made it to lvl 50 and i'm still improving Inoue, the thing is I'm willing to change one of my vanguard and I'm hesitating between Renji and Lisa I read the Nemu stuff about Renji but nothing about compatibility for Lisa...

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-13 19:40:08

Edited by Glasglow at 2014-9-13 18:43

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-13 18:23
Yeah i was almost sure the last strategy won't be of any help (99.99%) anyway i've just made it to ...

Honestly? Ichigo is better than Lisa.

Most people say that Lisa has better stats, but what they forget , is that Lisa does not get 100 Fury every time she uses her skill, while ichigo does, which lets him hit the assaulters every turn.

So even if she does more damage than him with the same stones, Ichigo will deal more to the enemy assaulters, since he doesn't skip a turn to hit the vanguard. And if Lisa meets a heavily stoned Yachiru, then you are in big trouble unless you have good HIT on her, since she won't be able to even get her fury up to hit the assaulters again.

If you aren't SURE you can kill the enemy assaulter team with Lisa in one turn, you are better off with ichigo.

And well, deicing between Lisa and Renji, means that you have to decide if you want to run the Assaulter killer composition, or the regular vanguard killer way.
Renji does tons more damage than Lisa, but he hits the Vanguard.

Also you said something about changing your vanguards? If you mean, that you want to upgrade your vanguard, then getting Chado is a must, Yachiru is bad, take my word on it.

But if you meant that you want to take off the vanguard, then you can do that for PvE, assuming that you have upgraded your gear well enough not to die in a few shots, but for PvP? Don't even bother trying to PvP without a vanguard, your assaulters will be dying like flies on the front line.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-13 19:53:56

Glasglow replied at 2014-9-14 00:40
Honestly? Ichigo is better than Lisa.

Most people say that Lisa has better stats, but what they fo ...

Thks for all these information on PVP i'll defintly keep sado he is my current vanguard for the assault compo what you said gave some thinking, ty very much

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-13 20:03:22

Momo and Orihime. Bestest, Nanao is useless

author: Glasglow time: 2014-9-15 06:53:50

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-13 19:03
Momo and Orihime. Bestest, Nanao is useless

Nanao is free if you can top-up, because you will want to buy the second lv1 ultimate set anyways.

And she is good until lv65, or even later if you don't plan on using Kazeshini.

author: marold time: 2014-9-17 15:36:12

For a 50-70 team...hard to play with only support... The best choice could be Momo/Orihime and Rukia if u do that but seems to be pretty hard.
If u use only rukia as supporter, u can try that one.

Rukia/ Main/Lisa/Free ichigo/vanguard. Very good focus on assaulter lane and it's a burst damage team with rukia. But can be easily counter with momo.... U need a good speed on all u're assaulter and expect to kill u're opponent damage dealer in on single round fury attack. Not possible to block momo at this moment of the game... Rukia can help u if only one or two of u're assaulter are stunned. U're next furry will be sooner and u can expect to finish the job.
U need good critical rate on u're assaulter and rukia too.
Critical attack give u half more rage point. So if one of u're assaulter make a crit next turn, with 30/45 rage point given by rukia u can expect to use furry every two turn.. and not need too wait three turn between each furry.

Rukia could be use all time cause of her rage boost ability.
Orihime is very usefull when people stop to use heal curse. And unitl u can purchase Unohaha (lvl 90) she will be the only valuable healer, and u will need an healer for trial and event.
Nanao : good damage delear for event. with rukia and a 2-3-0 team for event like spirit hollow and ryoka it's a must... until lvl 65. Kazeshini surpass her boost ability.
Momo : the only stunner at the start of the game, can't be counter until lvl 70 or use of 10th skill. Usefull in pvp, useless after lvl 70. Easy to counter with Yoruichi and great difference with Haribel who is much better.
Lisa : Good damage dealer in team with free ichigo. Two partner able to focus assaulters lane. One of the first partner combo for pvp. good critical rate, usefull with rukia too. Easy to make a second free ichigo after turn 2 and lauch fury attack every two turn. Bad damage focus (120% on fury). Killing a full assaulters lane will report her ability on vanguard next... like ichigo and if opponent as a strong healer, it could be an endless fight.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 09:30:27

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-9-21 08:44

for me the best support lane is rukia and orihime
u have to make rukia to attack first and at lvl 80 u change orihime to urahara
and make him to attack first then rukia( I think that rukia and urahara is the best suport lane cuz they fill tons of fury to your assault lane and combined with ikkaku and main hero can use their skill every round )
then main character then your best assault lane will be ikkaku with your main characterand for the vanguard i think its best to be with sajin komamura
i hope that information will be usefull to all players

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 11:07:46

I'm lvl 61 now and did'nt recruit momo for reiatsu reasons, I read the comments, and concluded it almost useless to recruit momo at this lvl since i'll reach 70 soon (even if I'm willing to recruit Komamura to replace vanguard first), i'm using a 1 - 3 - 1 formation, and most of people using momo now can't handle the boost in speed for main doubled with anti stun skill, plus renji (heavy on vanguard) and Ichigo 100% fury on assaulters, Inoue as healing with high counter and crit hit stones.

The only people i'm having problems with are the top 5 on the server with a BP diff of 30-50K.

To sum up, in some cases even momo becomes useless at some point.

author: lowkick1 time: 2014-9-22 03:29:28

If you topped up to get rangiku and nano, momo is a good replacement for nano if you geared nano correctly, which is to say have them have the most speed possible. I got sado first, but had to also pick up orihime since momo/nano combination wasn't working out for me, maybe since I didn't have enough resources to make them both super speedy. So my current composition is momo/orihime, main/rangiku, sado, and I've been doing pretty well for myself holding top 5 in arena. I do want to pick up rukia for pve events aswell as renji for another assaulter, and to replace rangiku, but I don't have the silver for that yet.

With momo, I can beat players stronger than me, since alot of their strength comes from their assaulters, which momo effectively handles. Without her I can't beat stronger opponents, with her I have beaten 100k bp vs my 92k bp.

author: zoomonrotmg time: 2014-9-23 19:19:04

Inue is a trash if you use frost arrow/Demon curse/Confragation the better is Momo/rukia

author: deathzorkas time: 2014-9-27 17:42:06

u recruit orihmne and momo is a must. That's because orihmne and momo teamed up gave player hard time beating. like for example orihmne heals and momo stun that gives u huge advantage to win. because u stop healing but momo stunned u but stopped stun orihmne healed. Orihmne and momo teamed up with sado and renji annoy players the most.

author: adventurethis time: 2014-9-28 22:55:11

Edited by adventurethis at 2014-9-28 23:05

best team early game for pvp
support: momo and orihime support= stunning slows your enemies damage output and many use 3 assaulters at this level so you have a high chance of stunning a good portion of their team. There is not a lot of antihealing either so you will have much higher survivability with orihime in place....there is very good synergy between these two characters..one increases your survivability and the other decreases your enemy damage, a good combo to use.

assaulters: main + renji..renji does the most damage of any assualter until lvl 80..some will say rangiku is better because of her high crit but the truth is top players have a lot of counter stones so she wont do a lot of damage at all and without crit she is bad. Ichigo and Lisa are not even close to being better than renji.

vanguard: sado is your best bet until lvl 70.

author: adidoank123 time: 2014-11-9 07:22:50

hello guys, is purple grimmjow from honour shop is worth to buys? bcoz i want to hire grimmjow for my support

author: lmavenl time: 2014-11-21 05:47:08

Rukia/Momo is what i suggest.

author: mansonloo time: 2015-3-9 02:54:33

Rukia all they way till u can recruit gold supporters.

author: Lawzliet time: 2015-5-7 18:57:38

IDK bout you guys but i run a 2-2-1 formation with double rukia. Dark and normal. im lvl 57 and it works pretty well for me.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 05:47:26

adidoank123 replied at 2014-11-9 07:22
hello guys, is purple grimmjow from honour shop is worth to buys? bcoz i want to hire grimmjow for m ...

Oi! make a post about this! dont ask a question in a question thread anyway!

author: bobobo77 time: 2015-12-17 14:12:38

healing is one of the crucial ways i keep my vangaurd alive.

author: geomarkz time: 2016-7-25 23:15:04

If you want to break enemy VG, then use anti-healing skill, plus renji, rukia, and kaien(lol don't under estimate his skill, lowers defense for 15%). Also You need to have a good tank VG to pull this one. So better get sado and modify him to at least 2stars.

If you want to break enemy assaulters, then use 6th skill for main, then ichigo and lisa, plus rukia. If enemy has momo, then use 4th skill(anti stun). You can also replace lisa with momo if you like.

My personal choice? Lol, I would use ichigo, main and renji, plus rukia, with a super tanky sado. Renji alone, if built right can break enemy VG specially with crit.
Why I use this? Coz this would allow me to use 4th skill(yeah the anti-healing, because it has the highest dmg at your disposal, even more if youupgrade it). So yeah I go for the highest dmg. Also stun from momo is not an issue, just workout your accessory, always always pair them lol. And don't forget to lvl up your reiatsu. Coz low reiatsu means you suck at pvp.

Lol, peace, all these are just my personal thoughts.

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