Bleach Online Forum

Title: Overall Best assaulter for PVP/PVE [Print this page]

author: shader99 time: 2015-7-23 20:32:00 Title: Overall Best assaulter for PVP/PVE

Based on skills/stats what is the best overall assaulter for both pvp/pve?

author: Curls88 time: 2015-7-23 20:42:04

White Ichigo no longer worth it(better get mugetsu if you consider having him).. Yamamto good price and good for pvp but he sucks in pve

Isshin is the best option

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-7-23 20:42:16

For Both, totally Isshin

author: Xcution12 time: 2015-7-23 20:42:29

isshin for sure

author: shader99 time: 2015-7-23 21:07:36

Curls88 replied at 2015-7-23 20:42
White Ichigo no longer worth it(better get mugetsu if you consider having him).. Yamamto good price ...

ok cool was needing to replace ikkaku finally, so isshin it is.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-7-23 21:50:24

Isshin is always a better choice.

author: TooGoodToBeTrue time: 2015-7-23 21:56:27

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-23 22:21:53

TooGoodToBeTrue replied at 2015-7-23 21:56

his butts hot ;)

author: TooGoodToBeTrue time: 2015-7-23 22:58:31

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-23 22:21
his butts hot ;)

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-24 22:42:07

white ichigo is better than iishin for damage purposes if you use zangetsu because the attack and damage buffs still stack
in pvp though isshin gives you that stun which is amazing

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-24 22:45:53

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-24 22:42
white ichigo is better than iishin for damage purposes if you use zangetsu because the attack and da ...

you use isshin and ichigo right?

is it better than isshin and csb ken?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-7-24 22:46:07

but where is hakuteiken

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-24 22:54:28

Edited by adventurethis at 2015-7-25 11:59

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-25 11:45
you use isshin and ichigo right?

is it better than isshin and csb ken?

isshin and white ichigo are both much better than csb kenpachi
the extra turns gained from isshin beat kenpachis damage growth rate
white ichigos damage buff and naturally high combo rate beat out kepnachis damage as well
isshin vs white ichigo just depends on what you want to do/what you have

i would pick white ichigo over isshin in pve but only because i have zangetsu and the extra damage buff is huge because they stack, an additional 25% damage.
in pvp i would pick isshin because although white ichigo does debuff the enemys damage it is more important to stop them from attacking in the first place, so 1st turn fury isshin can disable assaulters easily

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-24 23:00:34

[email protected] replied at 2015-7-25 11:46
but where is hakuteiken

he is worse than both isshin and white ichigo for pvp and pve

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-7-27 09:06:22

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-24 22:54
isshin and white ichigo are both much better than csb kenpachi
the extra turns gained from isshin b ...

sry to say you're wrong isshin is far better in PVE !

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-7-27 09:16:57

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-24 22:54
isshin and white ichigo are both much better than csb kenpachi
the extra turns gained from isshin b ...

sry to say you're wrong isshin is far better in PVE ! i tried using:

zangetsu + wichigo +main+shura+orihime+dark rukia

then:

zangetsu + isshin+main+shura+orihime+D.rukia

then used the 2 formations but with senbon this time and with main in each formation with 9th-8th and 5th skill the highest damage was :

senbon + isshin +shura+main(5th skill)+orihime +D.rukia , with isshin>orihime>D.rukia>shura>main in speed terms and damage difference was pretty big compared to :

zangetsu+ wichigo+shura+main(8th skill cz it was higher than 9th and 5th)+orihime +D.rukia but i remarqued at same time that :

zangetsu+wichigo+isshin+main+orihime+D.rukia was higher than the above one but even lower than the highest

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-27 18:51:53

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-7-27 22:16
sry to say you're wrong isshin is far better in PVE ! i tried using:

zangetsu + wichigo +main+shu ...

for you white ichigo is worse because you use dark rukia, her buff cancels out white ichigos buff.

i did mention that which one is better comes down to what you own, but in general if you are just comparing the two against each other you will find the damage buff is better if you can make full use of it.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-27 18:57:45

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-27 18:51
for you white ichigo is worse because you use dark rukia, her buff cancels out white ichigos buff. ...

isshin secures 6 hits on assaulter line... white ichigo is nowhere near the level of isshin when it comes to pve.

author: maniacpkt time: 2015-7-27 19:16:21

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-27 18:57
isshin secures 6 hits on assaulter line... white ichigo is nowhere near the level of isshin when i ...

exactly. it's not how much he buffs or how much damage he does. it's that combo rate and how many turns your assaulter line gets per round.

author: shadarlo time: 2015-7-27 23:11:55

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-27 18:57
isshin secures 6 hits on assaulter line... white ichigo is nowhere near the level of isshin when i ...

I see people saying things about Isshin that he secures or assures or guarantees x amount of hits. NEver having used him and only reading his description it seems like he'd make assaulters combo 1/3 of the time each. With 3 assaulters I'd assume 1 of the 3 would combo each round and that gives 1/3 chance to combo for the next and 1/3 again as small a chance to combo again.

so 1+1/3+1/9. Which is 13/9 bonus attacks, so 4 and 4/9 attacks per round. Is this accurate? Or does his combo rate actually make them attack far more often than that? I know with Sexy yoru this becomes even better as she's already at 29%or so for me.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-27 23:15:11

shadarlo replied at 2015-7-27 23:11
I see people saying things about Isshin that he secures or assures or guarantees x amount of hits. ...

the combo rate from isshin is actually 100%, i don't know why it says 35%

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-28 03:05:57

shadarlo replied at 2015-7-27 23:11
I see people saying things about Isshin that he secures or assures or guarantees x amount of hits. ...

what mr cat above said.

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-28 03:47:47

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-28 07:57
isshin secures 6 hits on assaulter line... white ichigo is nowhere near the level of isshin when i ...

i use isshin and white ichigo so i can't complain either way

author: shadarlo time: 2015-7-28 08:24:50

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-27 23:15
the combo rate from isshin is actually 100%, i don't know why it says 35%

So every assaulter gets 100% combo rate? Or just Isshin is 100%?

author: Redman06 time: 2015-7-28 09:50:28

The assaulter that is next to isshin gets the combo rate

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-28 10:29:36

shadarlo replied at 2015-7-28 08:24
So every assaulter gets 100% combo rate? Or just Isshin is 100%?

every assaulter

author: ajoalex time: 2015-7-29 11:38:13

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-28 08:15
the combo rate from isshin is actually 100%, i don't know why it says 35%

its 100% only if he goes first, if he goes second with full fury then the combo rate is 35% ie a chance(atleast when i tried that formation)

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-29 13:00:00

ajoalex replied at 2015-7-29 11:38
its 100% only if he goes first, if he goes second with full fury then the combo rate is 35% ie a c ...

i don't think thats true

author: MikeDragneel time: 2015-7-29 13:32:25

Whatever it may be, just make sure Isshin hits first and you get 6 shots from assault line per round.

author: MikeDragneel time: 2015-7-29 13:34:25

The damage is overwhelming if you know what you're doing. And i think Isshin and White Ichigo together is devastating in PvE.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-7-29 14:34:29

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-29 22:00
i don't think thats true

i would wish the same, but it has happened to me 2 atleast.
bya went first, then isshin t1, then main , then sup and vg, no combo happened.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-29 14:36:21

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-28 03:47
i use isshin and white ichigo so i can't complain either way

how much dmg do u do in ES?

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-29 14:55:10

ajoalex replied at 2015-7-29 14:34
i would wish the same, but it has happened to me 2 atleast.
bya went first, then isshin t1, then m ...

you're obviously doing something wong

when i use isshin there's always combo

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-29 17:48:16

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-30 03:36
how much dmg do u do in ES?

about 3.5 billion with me at 120

but i had to say i spend most waves missing ryoka, my internet is slow so it is not until ryoka reach 30 mill that i can actually start killing every time, before that wave my kills can be as low as 2 kills.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-29 19:45:49

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-29 17:48
about 3.5 billion with me at 120

but i had to say i spend most waves missing ryoka, my internet i ...

i was talking about evil spirit event (12:59) how much damage you do per battle

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-29 19:46:41

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-29 19:45
i was talking about evil spirit event (12:59) how much damage you do per battle

can't you read

he does 3.5 bil a battle

#OP

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-29 19:50:51

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-29 19:46
can't you read

he does 3.5 bil a battle

wowsoMUCHDAMAGE

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-29 19:52:54

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-29 19:50
wowsoMUCHDAMAGE

i do more though

shunsui does 63 bil just with his skill

#63

#OP

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-29 20:00:09

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-29 19:52
i do more though

shunsui does 63 bil just with his skill

wowsoSHUNSUI?

author: adventurethis time: 2015-7-30 01:47:26

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-30 08:50
wowsoMUCHDAMAGE

apparently i cant read, i didnt see the ES part

I havent done ES in a while actually due to time difference so i cant really say, ill have to get back to you on that

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-30 03:07:25

adventurethis replied at 2015-7-30 01:47
apparently i cant read, i didnt see the ES part

I havent done ES in a while actually due to ti ...

sure that'd be great!

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-7-30 06:23:58

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-29 19:46
can't you read

he does 3.5 bil a battle

3.5bil is pretty crazy.. I bet he uses Tosen

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-7-30 11:59:33

Brahmastra replied at 2015-7-30 06:23
3.5bil is pretty crazy.. I bet he uses Tosen

hahaha i can see youre learning

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-7-30 13:44:53

BurakCinar replied at 2015-7-30 11:59
hahaha i can see youre learning

haha you bet :>

#Tosen

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-30 13:47:08

Edited by sirnibbles at 2015-7-30 13:48

Brahmastra replied at 2015-7-30 13:44
haha you bet :>

#Tosen

#TosensGood

#ButShunsuisBetter

#BeatArrancarEliteWith688Health

#Best
[attach]7438[/attach]

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-7-30 14:00:23

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-30 13:47
#TosensGood

#ButShunsuisBetter

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-30 14:09:17

Edited by sirnibbles at 2015-7-30 14:10

Brahmastra replied at 2015-7-30 14:00

exactly

he's kind of a big deal

#MostUnderratedFightEver

#ItIsntJustAboutYouIchigo

author: Uciffer4 time: 2015-7-30 14:14:05

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-30 14:09
exactly

he's kind of a big deal

But ichigo didnt even was in the winter war :O Just the end ^^

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-7-30 14:15:56

Uciffer4 replied at 2015-7-30 14:14
But ichigo didnt even was in the winter war :O Just the end ^^

he was at hueco mundo and it was allllll about grimmjow and ulquiorra and omg kenpachi

that was the only fight that mattered

author: Uciffer4 time: 2015-7-30 15:15:44

sirnibbles replied at 2015-7-30 14:15
he was at hueco mundo and it was allllll about grimmjow and ulquiorra and omg kenpachi

that was t ...

Fatty yami

i want to know how they manage to kilñ him.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-7-30 15:57:38

Uciffer4 replied at 2015-7-30 15:15
Fatty yami i want to know how they manage to kilñ him.

NAH YAMA DIN DIE IT WAS JUST AN ILLUSION A CLONE ALL THAT WAS AN ILLUSION ALL THAT QUINCY ARC WAS.... INFINITE TSUKUYOMI ON ICHI xd

author: Xallog time: 2015-7-30 20:01:28

Note: The author has been banned or deleted.

Welcome to Bleach Online Forum (http://forums.gogames.me/)