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author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-11 09:33:56     Title: do i need a new vanguard??

I'm at lvl 86 and I still have yachiru as my van.. this girl from my server said is good that my van's hp is 544k and dodge rate... not sure wha the hell she said about that, i just know is good? 「(゚ペ)
I suck at these type of games xD  so just give me some advice or something. my point is i just wanna get stronger and have a stronger vanguard. (〃⌒▽⌒〃)ゝ

author: pavan93    time: 2015-8-11 10:13:23

yeah it will be good to get one if  level 100 takes lot of time for you to get it would be the best option you can have because it adds aid rate to assaulters level90 vangaurd nnotri gilga
author: theguyinblack    time: 2015-8-11 10:17:51

maybe it's too late to get sajin from lv70 tavern, besides, i think you're doing fine, as the "girl" said about your dodge and HP, you'll be good as long as you have a healer... but that won't last long... maybe you can get Unohana at lv90, and get an other VG at lv100 or lv110
can you post more info about your team ?
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-11 11:35:13

theguyinblack replied at 2015-8-11 10:17
maybe it's too late to get sajin from lv70 tavern, besides, i think you're doing fine, as the "girl" ...


well to begin with, my formations looks like [attach]7591[/attach]
as you can see I play the kido user & my zanpakuto is kokujo.

also i'm not sure what zanpakuto is good to use either

author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-11 11:37:31

pavan93 replied at 2015-8-11 10:13
yeah it will be good to get one if  level 100 takes lot of time for you to get it would be the best  ...

so what you mean is just keep yachiru and wait til i get to lvl 100 so i can get nnoitra?
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-11 13:01:49

i played with yachiru vg until 100 so you are fine for now just wait untill you can get starrk from tavern.
Yachiru is nice iff you have good dodge on her you can skipp nnoitra and sajin
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-11 13:08:30

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-11 13:01
i played with yachiru vg until 100 so you are fine for now just wait untill you can get starrk from  ...

oh man, I had totally forgotten about him!

yeah, i guess i will wait so i can get starrk
author: criminal238    time: 2015-8-11 15:47:04

I would only keep yachiru to that high of a level if you have nel as a support, I can't see that image you posted so I do not know what your formation is. Stark is super weak if you don't have the right zanpaktou, and the right zanpaktou is one that will not take away from his damage which is something that you will have to pay for, or with luck can get from ubp.  So if you are a free to play person and don't intend to spend money then I would go with a defensive vanguard like sajin, he will be ok until you can get hollow Ichigo.  
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-8-11 16:11:41

okay i will make this easy and simple
if you are planning to play this game for long then i recommend you to get komumaru(the dog dude) why ? well yachiru's skill is dodge and that can be countered with 2 ways . 1-you can refine your weapons to get hit rate and if you got that on all gear u will have a base of 12%+ hit rate 2-Spirit stones ..hit rate SS is quite common to get so if you got all lvl 4-5 hit rate on you main you will fully counter yachiru at the first round after that you should be strong enough to wipe out your opponents assaulters and support on the 2nd round with the last skill and the third way to counter yachi is the first skill . +100% hit rate which make her useless well if you have 60% dodge rate (base) on her with the use of kukojo +20% final form that would be really good as a game breaker BUT that's the only good thing about her because at lvl 90+ you will need a gold vanguard so u can put gold quality treasures on also at that point your yachiru's effectiveness will stop growing and become your weak link  that's my opinion on this matter .also kazishini is the very best free zanpaktu for pvp due to the extar speed which is the very most important thing in pvp and when it comes to pve then go with zabimaru ..
my point is : if your server got active players then your yachiru will be beaten before you realize it but if you can't afford to get a better van then stay on yachi and get your reaitsu to lvl 40 to get the new form of zanp that will boost her dodge massively and i gotta say you are really good i'm also f2p and am lvl 82 and onyl got 280k bp anyway i hope you are not feeling dizzy after reading this xD   
author: nadolu95    time: 2015-8-11 17:39:40

yachiru is good for the pvp stuff  with a decent dodge rate  but in hallow souls(pve stuff) he suck as hell. i have yachiru with have 80% dodge rate and i cant beat no2 espada with her but i change  yachiru with komamura(fox) and i clear all and my lvl is 78.
author: pavan93    time: 2015-8-11 18:57:50

sparklytears replied at 2015-8-11 11:37
so what you mean is just keep yachiru and wait til i get to lvl 100 so i can get nnoitra?

nnoitra is level90 vangaurd not level100 aid rate is very good
author: invaes    time: 2015-8-16 11:56:56

°˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖° lulu!
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-16 17:34:12

invaes replied at 2015-8-16 11:56
°˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖° lulu!

sigh

don't call me that ._.
author: sithumya    time: 2015-8-29 01:22:43

Get Kom It's really not too late for him in my opinion cause I got mine only after getting my other partners and I was like 85 or something XD Am F2P so I think It's not too late for him u can lvl him up soon trust me ^^
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-29 12:43:10

sithumya replied at 2015-8-29 01:22
Get Kom It's really not too late for him in my opinion cause I got mine only after getting my other  ...

i have decided to get nnoitra instead  
author: sithumya    time: 2015-8-29 13:00:18

sparklytears replied at 2015-8-29 23:43
i have decided to get nnoitra instead

Nice ^^ I would have gotten him too but um..I had reishi probs XD
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-29 15:57:54

sparklytears replied at 2015-8-11 19:08
oh man, I had totally forgotten about him!

yeah, i guess i will wait so i can get starrk :love ...

Now first thing, read suzuken's reply please.

So this is why it's never late and why you absolutely WILL get komamura.
Yachiru pve wise is ok. You got it figured out sort of and that's ok. But here's where people are messing up.

You must have noticed that dodge doesn't work in hollow soul. Not only dodge but block also, and other stat's need to be exceptionally high also. So your yachiru no matter how strong she is or hp she's got, espadas always take a large chunk out of you. Also your zan. and the way you relly on dodge will get you nowhere.

The reason you won't skip him is this. I'm also a starrk user and i don't use him in hollow soul. The reason is that he has to have a sick hit and break to work there, so basically he has to be a good offensive vanguard since he has an aoe skill, and it results in 3/5 dodging, and 4/5 blocking my attack so i get annihalated with starrk. After that i switched to koma and i got the best kill. He is defensively even better than hollow ichigo, and you absolutely must have him not just because of him, but to get better after him.

I tried to keep it brief as i can. I can write a 500 page essay still after this post, as of why you should get him, and it's all cons. Also if maybe wonder after reading this is getting him just for hollow soul smart (if you don't plan on replacing yachiru and abbandon that dodge) yes it is. Every partner, if it's just for hollow soul it is.

Sorry for the long post, hope it helps you. If you didn't understand smth ask
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-30 15:34:15

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-29 15:57
Now first thing, read suzuken's reply please.

So this is why it's never late and why you absolut ...

wow yeah, I can see why its not late to get him but i sort don't understand why people prefer him over shinji. in my opinion, i was gonna wait until i reached 90 so i can nnoitra but thats gonna take a while.. so instead i was planning getting harribel since momo is starting to suck now but tbh i just dont know anymore.

oh, i am now lvl 87 :p
my formation is momo / shin grimmjow, main, byakuya / yachiru
as for zan. is zabimaru

author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-30 20:34:29

take komamura, as an f2p he'll come handy till lvl110, also try to switch ur formation from the 1 3 1 set to a 1 2 2 set, as for the second supporter my bet is on yoruichi she's the best complement for momo, haribel can wait, u'll have gin at lvl100 who is 10 times better.

focus on ur reiatsu that's ur first priority go lvl40 asap u'll unlock the final form of ur zanpakto
author: sparklytears    time: 2015-8-30 21:11:50

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-30 20:34
take komamura, as an f2p he'll come handy till lvl110, also try to switch ur formation from the 1 3  ...

who should i remove if i do set 1 2 2, grimmjow or byakuya? okay, i will wait for gin and also my reiatsu is already at lvl 41
author: Mattrat1    time: 2015-8-30 22:43:01

sparklytears replied at 2015-8-30 21:11
who should i remove if i do set 1 2 2, grimmjow or byakuya? okay, i will wait for gin and also my  ...

probably ur formation would be expected
komamura-main-grimmjow upgraded-yoruichi-unohana
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-31 06:58:05

sparklytears replied at 2015-8-30 21:34
wow  yeah, I can see why its not late to get him but i sort don't understand why people prefer h ...

Because starrk is better than shinji, has better stat's than shinji and he's still nowhere defensively wise close to koma. Koma even beat's h.ichigo defensive wise.

There's a reason why you must follow a certain patern. expecially if you're a f2p. Read azrial's tread, 17(now 19) tips for begginers. There's a reason people always tell you to get koma once you hit 70, then yoruichi. Shinji as an offensive van. need lvl 8-10 stones to work, and no f2p has them around lvl 70. Not a chance, Even if you did, you would equip. your main and supp. not van. Komamura is there, just to stand there, and that's all, and that's more than enough. Get koma. Work on lvling him, and preparing him for hollow soul. Leave yachiru if you must for pvp.

Best would be to geting yoruichi also, and abbandon shin grimmjow (keep him pve wise). Switch to kazeshini, work on yoruichi's speed. Tactic shutting down enemy supp., and buying time for ass. to work, while koma protect's them. Unohana on lvl 90. Yoruichi shut's down enemy supp. Ass work, unohana heals to give them more time if you will. It's a diamond. If you really really wan't to, and don't have resources and exp. scrolls. Go for nnoitra. He has some value in that 4th mod and aid. But please don't leave out yourichi. And wait for gin instead of harribel.

1-2-2 formation. From 1-2-2 it's easier to switch to 1-3-1 or 1-1-3 in bond, conquest of might, and hollow soul and it's easier to have one set of certain stones. Then two just sitting there.

Sorry for the long post again
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-31 09:16:05

Edited by thepoke007 at 2015-8-31 15:18
sparklytears replied at 2015-8-31 03:11
who should i remove if i do set 1 2 2, grimmjow or byakuya? okay, i will wait for gin and also my  ...

don't do it right away, n for ur team definitly keep byakuya n replace grim, prepare ur set for supporter in ur bag n when u can infuse it n lvl it switch grimjow with some supp, again yoruichi is best suited with momo in my opinion.
gratz on reiatsu i guess u're hogyo kai now instead of bankai? n yes gin is the best asaulter stuner in tavern.

i would suggest to upgrade grim once u hit lvl100 , the problem is u need to be vip1 minimum. so as for a second asaulter who would help u in evil spirit n ryoka i'll advise ikkaku or kenpachi.





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