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author: maru321    time: 2015-8-22 07:09:47     Title: Tips on building level 110+ partners

I'm lvl 108 and currently using 1-3-1 formation with;
Kenpachi (4/5 mod) - Ikkaku (4/5 mod) - Main - Sajin (4/5 mod) - unohana/gin/yoru  ( mostly unohana, depends on the situation)


Whats the best tavern combo to get after hitting 110?  or should i just get all 3 of them?

also im only 1.5k stones short away from claiming csb kenpachi.
author: Xallog    time: 2015-8-22 07:25:48

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author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 07:43:33

regarding ur team u definitly need ichigo as vg to replace sajin.

As for aizen he's way better than yoru, but since u use her depending on the situation,

ishida can be good for u in pve first n to prepare for csb kenpachi
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-22 08:52:17

I'm no expert but i'd like to see people explain a bit better when they come questions like this. For starters i'd like to say that stunners should always be first because of the progress in hollow soul, but if your yourichi can cope up maybe you should go with ichigo then. By looking at your partners i assume you are low vip or f2p so i would say uryu should come third, maybe you could even skip him if your kenpachi is moded and half way through evo... But what i don't get is that kind of half pve and half pvp 1-3-1. No offense but i'm saying this because you will have problems later on (because you probably don't have 2 or 3 kido runes) and you will need to go 1-1-3 in conquest of might, and bond, and more important in hollow soul like with tousen... Not trying to get you mad just think about it, and if you got it cowered i apologize, but i think you need to work on some other stuff then what partner from 110 you need ;)
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-22 12:45:25

Edited by maru321 at 2015-8-22 12:46
[email protected] replied at 2015-8-22 08:52
I'm no expert but i'd like to see people explain a bit better when they come questions like this. Fo ...

This is actually my first server, i'm only at vip6 ( used gold on whatever events were on ) .

my bad on the question not being clear, but the other 2 above answered it already and judging by the answers they both knew i'm the pve type. Out of all the gold i wasted i managed to get 6 (10% fury stones) and 3 (8% fury stones)

Pve build ;

Kisuke - full mod t1
rukia -full mod + 3 basic fury  (so t1 after kisuke attacks)
main
kenpachi
ikkaku.


i'm getting 60m in evil spirits and around 20m in ryoka ( entering after 8-10 mins so others can get loots)


So pretty much i'll take the 3 partners in 110 . thanks for the answers guys




author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-22 13:09:21

maru321 replied at 2015-8-22 18:45
This is actually my first server, i'm only at vip6 ( used gold on whatever events were on ) .

my  ...

I like the silver maru-chan. Keep up the good work
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-22 13:24:08

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-22 13:09
I like the silver maru-chan. Keep up the good work

I'm still thinking of a way to salvage my formation for hollow souls and pvp when merge comes (server is dead as of the moment ).
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-22 16:21:47

maru321 replied at 2015-8-22 19:24
I'm still thinking of a way to salvage my formation for hollow souls and pvp when merge comes (ser ...

Yap that's why i like 1-2-2. 1-3-1 is ok if you got isshin and whit ichigo etc. and if you're first and wreck everybody and don't give a f*ck. It's also easier to switch to 1-3-1 or 1-1-3 if you need to from 1-2-2. In your case, you would need to make a 180. And it's not just the runes, it's the stones and stuff. I feel the dif when i switch from uno to urahara, cause it's not just from one supp to another, it's who goes first, one is a more wisdom based other agility... There's a lot to think about. And if you have strenght main you have to distribute strenght stones between 4 characters -.- . Maybe you should add gin in, along with uno, for the time being, switch stones, see what's up.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 16:31:16

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 07:43
regarding ur team u definitly need ichigo as vg to replace sajin.

As for aizen he's way better tha ...

I'm planning on getting hollowed ichigo when I hit 110 too.  I'm like 1 day away from hitting 110.  Now my question, you say replace sajin with hollowed ichigo.  My sajin is fully modded, lvl 101.  

Should I replace sajin immediately after I hit 110 with hollowed ichigo?  Or should I wait until 1st or 2nd mod to replace him? I ask because of the defense of my fully modded sajin.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 20:11:37

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 16:31
I'm planning on getting hollowed ichigo when I hit 110 too.  I'm like 1 day away from hitting 110. ...

in your case u gonna proba loose some immune n counter ratestill imo h ichigo better since he gives aid rate to assaulters n regain hp from attk, think of him as the nat successor f sajin plus a mix of nnoitora n stark n some ammazing natural stats,

he proba will be better after the first mod
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 21:36:54

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 20:11
in your case u gonna proba loose some immune n counter ratestill imo h ichigo better since he give ...

Yeah that was my concern, since he isn't modded yet, he isn't as good as sajin for now.  Of course, after a few mods, then he will definately be better.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 21:47:27

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 21:36
Yeah that was my concern, since he isn't modded yet, he isn't as good as sajin for now.  Of course ...

he will, well i'm using stark for offense purposes but ichigo is a damn good vg, n don't negllect hishp recovery it's too op, for that focus on dmg
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 22:19:25

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 21:47
he will, well i'm using stark for offense purposes but ichigo is a damn good vg, n don't negllect  ...

Well so far of using him I've noticed he doesn't recover much hp, is there a reason to it?
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 22:27:57

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 22:19
Well so far of using him I've noticed he doesn't recover much hp, is there a reason to it?

yeah the dmg, it is based on the dmg he deals, that's why i went for stark, since he attks all team ie more dmg.

the principle is easy: recovers hp % from the dmg delt, the higher dmg the more hp he recovers, stark recovers around 100k hp now given the team i'm facing ofc it can go up or down.

the problem with h ichigo is he only attks one partner, so u better focus on dmg, thus the aid rate for asaulters is quite good, n his natural stats are better than stark
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 22:35:11

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 22:27
yeah the dmg, it is based on the dmg he deals, that's why i went for stark, since he attks all tea ...

Well that explains it.  I have 4 pieces lvl 90 vanguard event set and 2 pieces lvl 80 set, so basically I'm using 4-2 on equipment.  That gives no damage on him.  Plus I have the boost defense at start enchant.  Thus, he get no added bonus damage from a full set.  I guess that explains it then.

Would you happen to know if the aid skill increases or decreases by a damage factor?  Or is it same regardless.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 22:38:13

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 22:35
Well that explains it.  I have 4 pieces lvl 90 vanguard event set and 2 pieces lvl 80 set, so basi ...

good question, i have no precice answer but all i can say is when i fight hollow ichigo users the dmg dealt after their ichigo skills goes down by 90%, let's say i use to do 100k dmg on asaulters, i do 10k after aid, hope it can help u
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 22:40:14

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 22:38
good question, i have no precice answer but all i can say is when i fight hollow ichigo users the  ...

It's says 60% but ok, your ideas have cleared up my mind.  So on the other hand, I would need to make hollowed ichigo offensive I suppose to make him heal more
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 22:43:07

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 22:40
It's says 60% but ok, your ideas have cleared up my mind.  So on the other hand, I would need to m ...

90 , 60% who's counting but yeah that's the deal.

and goodluck making ichigo a beef on dmg, it's a shame he ain't attaking supporters at least; that's where stark deals the most dmg
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 22:45:40

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 22:43
90 , 60% who's counting  but yeah that's the deal.

and goodluck making ichigo a beef on dmg, i ...

Gonna be tough since I was using komamura sajin for so long and I beefed him specially with high defense and greatly lacked his attack strength, as I only needed him to tank and resist hits.  

Was gonna go for stark but people kept saying that hol. ichigo was sajins succesor so that's why I went for him.  Didn't had no idea he needed to make damage.  
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 22:51:59

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 22:45
Gonna be tough since I was using komamura sajin for so long and I beefed him specially with high d ...

well as i said before on this post, he's a successor of sajin, but also a mix of nnoitora n stark, most people look at vg as a defense tool only, but stark n ichigo are offense too, n also ur ichigo will proba need speed to be optimum but that's an end game set. if it can helps here is my stark stats.


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author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 23:01:58

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 22:51
well as i said before on this post, he's a successor of sajin, but also a mix of nnoitora n stark, ...

Ah, I see you got the full set already of 100 gear.  Which one is it.  Is it the vanguard set or the asaulter set?

Funny thing you're saying because I beefed up sajin's defense so much on stones, accesories, etc. that I forgot 2 basic things, as I saw them completely unecessary.  Those were his strength and speed.  Both are very very bad. His strength is a bit better now, thanks to an ult att jade, but his speed is terrible.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 23:05:59

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 23:01
Ah, I see you got the full set already of 100 gear.  Which one is it.  Is it the vanguard set or th ...

i took the vg set for better immune and wisdom. if i went for assaulter his dmg would be greater but his defense would be underminded.

keep going on strengh hogus and hogyoku helps a lot indeed, mine are still low since i focus on speed for urahara now. but yeah u got the idea how to make dmg high, bit of advice don't neglict break defense, as for crits it's very difficult to land a crit with ichigo against oposite vg.

take care
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 23:16:50

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 23:05
i took the vg set for better immune and wisdom. if i went for assaulter his dmg would be greater b ...

Do you need crit stones on him too? I do have some break defense but it's mostly lvl 4 stones.  The ult attack hogyo helped a lot in terms of strength.  My hogu strength is still low, as I'm focusing on speed for uruhara too.  The thing I will most likely have to work in will be his speed as his speed is only 30k.  With reiatsu attibutes it's 40k.  All my speed stones, jades, etc. were to my asaulters and supporters.  I didn't even bother with speed for vanguard.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 23:24:34

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 23:16
Do you need crit stones on him too? I do have some break defense but it's mostly lvl 4 stones.  Th ...

i don't bother with speed for vg for now too, but ichigo speed can be a factor, i'd say focus on the basics ie dmg and defense plus upgrade ur break defense there (since if he gets bloked u get less dmg thus less hp recovery) as for crits i find it endgame too as for speed.

if i was an ichigo user i'd say i focus on speed as endgame more than crits. but for now just prepare ur sajin with break defense n more raw dmg, speed is tricky since all the other lines needs it, i can't figure how can i put speed yet on vg
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-8-22 23:28:49

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 23:24
i don't bother with speed for vg for now too, but ichigo speed can be a factor, i'd say focus on t ...

Me neither, that's why I focused speed mainly on supporters and assaulters, so they can do max damage, as fast as possible.  As for crits, I'd usually use it on my main, with his last skill, so he can crit on most partners, especially those with low counter stones.  

Anyways, thanks a lot for your help.  I'd have went for the stark road if people haven't constantly told me that I need certain stones on him, thats why I chose the ichigo road, for now, that is until I get SWP kenpachi, I"m halfway to gettin his first form.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-8-22 23:31:10

MikkyX replied at 2015-8-22 23:28
Me neither, that's why I focused speed mainly on supporters and assaulters, so they can do max dama ...

well gl mate and thks for the conversation, as u can see even ichigo needs some special preparations to be effective that's why i took stark early. planning on going for aizen before kenpachi but definitly noza ken is end game.

goodnight
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-23 02:06:07

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-22 16:21
Yap that's why i like 1-2-2. 1-3-1 is ok if you got isshin and whit ichigo etc. and if you're firs ...

yeah currently first in arena and I don't even mind being 2nd or 3rd once merge comes cause I saw a vip9 on the other server . Only concern is the hollow souls (stuck at #1)

If i do get the exact amount of fury stones for t1,do you think this team would be good;

Kisuke - Aizen - Main - CSB Ken - Hollow Ichigo

or

Kisuke - Main - CSB Ken - Ikkaku - Hollow Ichigo.


and i think no problem for ES / Ryoka .
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-23 02:07:09

thepoke007 replied at 2015-8-22 20:11
in your case u gonna proba loose some immune n counter ratestill imo h ichigo better since he give ...

was thinking of the same thing.  the aid buff from ichigo is too good to pass on even if sajin gets full moded.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-23 04:35:39

maru321 replied at 2015-8-23 08:06
yeah currently first in arena and I don't even mind being 2nd or 3rd once merge comes cause I saw  ...

Well you're still far away from t1 if i remember correctly so it's up in the air. I like the first team. Aizen shuting down enemy support and letting you're assauletrs work, that's a good formula, I use similar one. What's with swp characters, plan on getting any? How about that r2 ulquiorra when you hit 115. Maybe switch csb ken. with him?
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-23 13:09:40

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-23 04:35
Well you're still far away from t1 if i remember correctly so it's up in the air. I like the first ...

i actually have some gold waiting for next reio and treasuremap to complete my t1 combo. for swp , i'm buying kenpachi coupons.

is ulquiorra really that good? i might check it thanks
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-23 14:01:25

maru321 replied at 2015-8-23 19:09
i actually have some gold waiting for next reio and treasuremap to complete my t1 combo. for swp , ...

Well you have people asking who's better him, or yama, or csb byakuya. So he's up there. And you'll get him first when you hit lvl 115, and then you can keep working on kenpachi coupons. Cause i think h. ichigo is better then shin shura ken., So you'll be able to get r. ulq. before you have another 4k challenge stones for byakuya, and you'll still be able to gather coupons for noza until you hit 120 if i'm correct. Now that i read it all sounds complicated, but it's rather not hahah
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-23 14:29:59

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-23 14:01
Well you have people asking who's better him, or yama, or csb byakuya. So he's up there. And you'l ...

nah its not that complicated, it just takes super long to get that.
once i get t1 on main i think i can clear whole hueco mundo already

someone also told me swp ken is shit unless its noza, so another long time to grind.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-23 14:57:02

maru321 replied at 2015-8-23 20:29
nah its not that complicated, it just takes super long to get that.
once i get t1 on main i think  ...

That was my point, you can get him, mod him, evo him, it all stays once you upgrade him. Same for ulq. t1 is beast for hueco mundo, i get to espada #2 easy, but sometimes i encounter those crazy spenders that are still lvl 80 90 on 7 6 5 and they eliminate my supp cause they already have t1 and crazy speed, nothing get's me mad like that.
author: maru321    time: 2015-8-28 09:27:36

[email protected] replied at 2015-8-23 14:57
That was my point, you can get him, mod him, evo him, it all stays once you upgrade him. Same for  ...

just hit 110 and got 3 of them.

how do you build hollow ichigo in terms of stones and stats? do i go full agi-str on this one?
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-8-28 13:24:15

maru321 replied at 2015-8-28 15:27
just hit 110 and got 3 of them.

how do you build hollow ichigo in terms of stones and stats? do i ...

Agility no, strenght yap. Strenght stamina, block, counter (enough for a decent van.) Now wisdom is a maybe, depends on you, it will reduce kido damage that the enemy is able to inflict on you're van.

For the rest dodge is a maybe also, ichigo has a dodge mod, that increases dodge for 10% probably, and you can go above 90%. Now it will take some fragments and time to get there, so you can leave the dodge stones in backpack, and put them on when you reach the mod, or keep em, it's on you.

Now since you are planing to get noza, and since everybody has a bigger crit rate later on, you can split the dodge or even cast it, and gradually gather and add hit stones, break, and last crit (a lot of stones all together, you'll probably need to split them, synthesize  and 3 this 3 that) But what i just wrote also depends on what zan. do you use (What do you use btw.) Also you can socket more holes if it's a end game equip.

As for the evo, solely on you, since the stones stay, and evo doesn't so... maybe you should evo him if you feel he can't cope up, if not you can work on other character's, but i recommend yes, so you can have bigger attack thus bigger heal, also he'll come in handy in hollow soul with aid rate... either way you don't lose. it's vitality, it's a long way to noza.

So got sick of reading yet? haha




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