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author: Redman06 time: 2015-9-6 11:11:26 Title: Stark build

For some reason I'm starting to think I'm building stark incorrectly. Currently I have a defensive set up on him (yes i know he's an offensive vanguard) just i feel like if i switch to more offense it might make him squishy seeing as zangetsu is my main zanpakto and I don't have senbon or hyorinmaru.

My current stones on him are : str/wis/sta/counter/block/hit

On all his gear I have str/sta/block stats

Any suggestions as to how else to build him? or am i on the right path

author: moongoatie time: 2015-9-6 11:13:17

maybe some break def so he ll get blocked less

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-9-6 11:16:22

take out hit and wis for break def + crit if u want offensive

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-9-6 11:26:24

Honestly anything over 190% hit rate is usually wasted, so merge his stones up to where you're around there or even a bit lower. This'll give you a bit more room to work with. Definitely do like Burak said and take the wis stones off of him. They likely aren't making enough of a difference to warrant them being there in the first place. Break def and crit are definitely good additions.

So yeah, more or less I agree with Burak, except keep some hit on him so he's not missing the enemy vanguard all the time since he can't gain fury if he doesn't hit.

author: moongoatie time: 2015-9-6 11:32:05

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-6 11:26
Honestly anything over 190% hit rate is usually wasted, so merge his stones up to where you're aroun ...

That hit rate is wasted once you kill Aizen, cause with 220% I'm not even close to hitting first minnion. And I would have to disagree with you on the wisdom stones. Well if you go on offensive route yeah, but for defensive they are def needed

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-9-6 11:35:32

moongoatie replied at 2015-9-6 11:32
That hit rate is wasted once you kill Aizen, cause with 220% I'm not even close to hitting first m ...

I said the hit rate's wasted because he's talking about for PvP as far as I can tell. Also no offense but if his zanpakuto is zangetsu then using starrk against people in hollow souls would be absolutely pointless.

As far as the wisdom goes, starrk is an offensive vanguard primarily. And his wisdom growth rate is absolute crap so making wis stones worth it on him would be expensive and most likely not worth it/impossible for someone that's not gonna top up for hyorin or senbon.

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-9-6 11:40:07

moongoatie replied at 2015-9-6 11:32
That hit rate is wasted once you kill Aizen, cause with 220% I'm not even close to hitting first m ...

Btw since you mentioned Aizen, it took me about 250% hit for first minion, 280% hit for second minion, and 320% hit for Aizen himself. Just to give you an idea of what you'll need for each one.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-9-6 11:41:17

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-6 11:35
I said the hit rate's wasted because he's talking about for PvP as far as I can tell. Also no offe ...

exactly.

if you have socket stones for extra stone slots, feel free to use wisdom, otherwise wisdom is a NO NO

author: Kosmodestiny time: 2015-9-6 11:43:18

BurakCinar replied at 2015-9-6 11:41
exactly.

if you have socket stones for extra stone slots, feel free to use wisdom, otherwise wisd ...

Yeah definitely. I thought about mentioning that too, but from the original post I got the feeling he's not gonna be going socket crazy so i didn't even bring it up.

author: Redman06 time: 2015-9-6 11:43:53

Ok I'll scrap his wisdom stones then but now I'm confused as where the hit rate part comes in. Currently his hit rate is at 183% with 6 level 6 hit rate stones. When you said merge what exactly did you mean. Also would using SWP Ken with zangetsu in hollow souls be a good idea? Or should i then work on getting senbon/hyorin instead?

author: moongoatie time: 2015-9-6 11:51:36

Kosmodestiny replied at 2015-9-6 11:40
Btw since you mentioned Aizen, it took me about 250% hit for first minion, 280% hit for second min ...

Thanks for the tips on Hollow map, it's gonna take a few months to get that high hit rates

Anyway, I used Starrk so far in map with Tengen, so I don't see Zangetsu being a problem, he could always use Tengen. I noted about map because a few weeks ago I did the same. Fused some stones to get some slots, without considering map/pve and it was great mistake.

About Starrk being offensive VG and having low wisdom growth rates I completely agree. Yet usiing Zangetsu his dmg is -40%, he will need too much effort to have any real damage, thus I believe making a bit more tanky is better. Anyway, still best choice for him is to get Hichigo who can synergy with his Zangetsu and stay on a defensive VG route.

author: Redman06 time: 2015-9-6 11:55:02

Thing is I'm on route for a more offensive VG seeing as I'm planning to switch to SWP Kenny whenever i get him(1 month away)

author: Redman06 time: 2015-9-6 12:29:41

Not sure How I'm gonna fit in crit stones...if i take out hit...his hit rate drops massively. If i sacrifice break def...he never lands a hit without being blocked. Lol confused

author: Mattrat1 time: 2015-9-6 12:36:59

Try 6 strength, 6 block, 6 stamina, 6 hit or less if reached closer to 190% hit rate, 6 break def, 6 crit

author: Redman06 time: 2015-9-6 12:43:29

If i take out counter stones wouldn't that increase my risk of being critted on?

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