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author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 14:03:49     Title: Shini uruhara or aizen?

Can anybody tell me if shinigami uruhara is good to get?  I know he probably is, but I need somebody to take out supports.  Got isshin to take out assaulters with silence, now I need to take out supports .  I'm thinking of getting shinigami uruhara for this, since his silence is 100%, but I"d like to know if he's worth it, or can tavern aizen do the same job as he does.  What worries me about silence is that the enemy supports could still attack, even though they don't skill.  Aizen on the other hand stuns supports, but that's not always effective.  
In addition, modding aizen gonna be way much easier than modding shinigami uruhara.


So, any thoughts?  


P.S. SWP aizen is out of my reach since I'm just vip4, and I'm level 110.  it will take me forever to get the necessary coupons for him, since I only get like 280 HM coins per day, which is like 5 coupons per day, and I reset once, so he's out of the picture for now.

author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-13 14:33:33

shini urahara is good for silencing aizen isnt always 100% stun but does take fury away
shini ura has 170% frowth his crits will kill supports easy if u can dish out the dmg
every crit or so he will regain 102 fury to skill again next turn
his skill doesnt work in hollow souls so getting aizen is good either way for that
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 16:34:23

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-13 14:33
shini urahara is good for silencing aizen isnt always 100% stun but does take fury away
shini ura ha ...

Ah true hollow, souls, I completely forgot about that.  Yet again, Stunning might not be necessary, if he crits, or if used with a kisuke who crits, which would mean that he'd skill turn after turn after turn, with a bit of luck of course.
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-9-13 16:41:57

Before I got Bankai Rukia I used Shinigami Urahara. He's fatanstic IMO. I personally think he's worth getting, especially for just topping 4k gold.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 16:53:14

NNatsu replied at 2015-9-13 16:41
Before I got Bankai Rukia I used Shinigami Urahara. He's fatanstic IMO. I personally think he's wort ...

That's the thing though, if I get him, I won't get aizen.  Tavern aizen that is.  Plus, modding shini uruhara from scratch, won't be easy.  Gonna take a while.  Also, the thing with shini uruhara is once supports are done, silence don't work on other enemies.  With aizen, when I finish taking out supports, I could stun vg, which would be very good especially those pesky stark users.

SWP aizen is a far off dream.  

OH one more thing, if it's not too much to ask natsu, can you tell me who are shini uruhara's bond partners?  I'd like to know if he'd be ok, with my team.
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 16:58:52

shinigame ura silence is 100% while Aizen's stun is no where near 30% (if your opponents has anti-stun accessories) also urahara if he crits he can attack every turn and that can make up to not silencing vang/assaulter
(personal opinion u don't have to agree/disagree)
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-13 17:02:06

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 22:53
That's the thing though, if I get him, I won't get aizen.  Tavern aizen that is.  Plus, modding sh ...

That's the thing my friend you will need to get tavern aizen regardles of getting shinigami urahara for the sole purpose of hollow sould. You will need and you will. Everything else i agree with noctustheking.

But if i can leave you with anything, before shinigami urahara i was just a guy period. After i got him it separated me from the guys with the same bp and 100 k more, later on after brushing up even 200k, not even lying or exaggareting.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:07:40

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 16:58
shinigame ura silence is 100% while Aizen's stun is no where near 30% (if your opponents has anti-st ...

I agree, but I don't really have to wipe out supports, I just got to keep them from skilling or giving t1 to assaulters.  That's what I want truly, for them not to skill.  With shini uruhara, they won't skill, that's 100 percent, but they will still attack, as for aizen, he might or might not stun, but he also reduces fury.  That is critical, because that allows them not to skill.  So even if I don't stun them, I lower their fury, so they still can't skill.  

I need to keep supporters at bay for 2 or 3 turns, while I take out assaulters withi isshin, main combo.  

Lastly, I forgot to mention, I use kisuke, so with luck I could make shini uruhara skill everyturn.  With aizen iif I'm fast enough, I can keep reducing fury to supports, so they won't skill to me.

Aizen's ability could be critical in hollow soul, but I'm not really sure if I need it, as I already got gin, and retsu unohana.  Don't know if stunning supports will be needed to beat tosen or gin.
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 17:13:44

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:07
I agree, but I don't really have to wipe out supports, I just got to keep them from skilling or gi ...

well what if a player had a T1 assaulter the increase fury ? in that case Aizen would be useless
But there are way too many assumptions to make and i dunno if you are gonna reach an answer so  urahara is the best in some cases  and Aizen is the best in other cases now for you to decide you need to check your csb/arena and see who would be more useful in these situations
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:13:48

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-13 17:02
That's the thing my friend you will need to get tavern aizen regardles of getting shinigami urahar ...

Nah I won't get both, it's one or the other. But really, do you need aizen for hollow soul?  I mean I got gin and retsu unohana.  I don't know if IM gonna need to stun supports for tosen or gin.  

ONe more thing, aizen's skill can stun those annoying stark users, so they don't attack me, and even if he doesn't he lowers their fury so they won't skill like in 1 or 2 turns.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:19:40

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 17:13
well what if a player had a T1 assaulter the increase fury ? in that case Aizen would be useless
...

If the player had T1 assaulter, I switch to gin, lol.  But what you mentioned in csb/arena is valid.

I think aizen.  Because of those pesky starks.  The guys there even if they don't skill, they do a good deal of damage with their supports, plus as mentioned those pesky starks, it gets tough if they skill because they have high block.  So even with shini uruhara, if he ain't that strong, I'd give enough time for stark to skill.  

And yeah, I apologize, I think I overdid it with the excuses and reasons, I think I was giving myself some own advice, lol.  Got carried away.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-13 17:24:14

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 23:13
Nah I won't get both, it's one or the other. But really, do you need aizen for hollow soul?  I mea ...

That's the thing it's tavern aizen one way or another. I got them too and they're not enough. I mean i'm not going to force you but i don't think you wan't to pass tosen and gin with 100k more bp then you could of.

And those support provide fury and i think they even started to stun once i opened tosen's first guard if i'm not wrong. Either way don't underestimate him, even if you just let him sit there and mod him. Recruiting partner's for the sole purpose of the hollow soul is never a wrong choice or a waste of resourses
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 17:27:54

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:19
If the player had T1 assaulter, I switch to gin, lol.  But what you mentioned in csb/arena is vali ...

well when it comes to picking partners you always keep second guessing your self xD you can't really know the actuall result until you get that character and test it your self so giving your self excuses is very acceptable ^^ i do the same all the time .. and always end up picking the most fucked up partner that i can think of instead of what i really need because i over think it xD
so my last advice for you is don't over think it ^^
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:32:20

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-13 17:24
That's the thing it's tavern aizen one way or another. I got them too and they're not enough. I me ...

So very true.  You can't go wrong with hollow soul map.  
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:34:59

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 17:27
well when it comes to picking partners you always keep second guessing your self xD you can't real ...

Well as mentioned earlier, hollow soul is important, and aizen will be most beneficial here, even though I'm not sure I'll need him with a fully modded gin and unohana, but anyways, better be prepared.  And If I'm gonna screw it, might as well screw it with a tavern partner, lol.  Better that than my $$$, lol.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:36:06

[email protected] replied at 2015-9-13 17:24
That's the thing it's tavern aizen one way or another. I got them too and they're not enough. I me ...

People telling me to get shini  yoroichi, I know she's good and all that, but since I got isshin, I see no use for her, only for hollow soul map where she'd be useful.  Outside of that, I won't need her, as isshin would be most useful.
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 17:36:44

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:34
Well as mentioned earlier, hollow soul is important, and aizen will be most beneficial here, even  ...

yup you're absolutely right So after all Aizen might be better for both pvp and pve side
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-13 17:41:57

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 17:36
yup you're absolutely right So after all Aizen might be better for both pvp and pve side

Yeah, I won't fall into gogames marketing plans to force me to top up, by throwing an event to make me question myself, lol.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-13 17:45:32

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 23:34
Well as mentioned earlier, hollow soul is important, and aizen will be most beneficial here, even  ...

1-1-3 knocking through the front door with h.ichigo, main, tavern aizen gin and unohana is a very common strategy in hollow soul. stun ass, stun support, main stun vanguard, damage probably with ichigo, and unohana healing if somebody didn't get stunnes or they block, so it's a diamond so to say.

As for pve you might as well use aizen and unohana. Aizen stun's support so he can't stun you, and unohana buys time for you're main and yama to work. Later on it might be harder cause it's first hit first kill, but then you might have unoahan fully moded to recover if she drops dead first, and it's still important to get a first whack with aizen on enemy supp. so they can't do the same, followed with the wrath of main and yama, or isshin not shure who you wrote

So you could spend those dollars cause s.kisuke is faster and he can perfectly stop swp or ultima aizen in his tracks...

Or save them
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-13 17:46:12

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 23:41
Yeah, I won't fall into gogames marketing plans to force me to top up, by throwing an event to mak ...

hahahaha nice one
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 18:02:58

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:41
Yeah, I won't fall into gogames marketing plans to force me to top up, by throwing an event to mak ...

i think i just found my next signature XD
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-13 19:36:10

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 15:02
i think i just found my next signature XD


author: Suzuken    time: 2015-9-13 19:54:14

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-14 03:36

no matter how many times i see this .. i keep laughing xD it never gets old
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-13 19:58:35

Suzuken replied at 2015-9-13 16:54
no matter how many times i see this .. i keep laughing xD it never gets old

HAHA YA     
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-13 20:43:22

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 16:53
That's the thing though, if I get him, I won't get aizen.  Tavern aizen that is.  Plus, modding sh ...

his silence works on VGs
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-13 20:44:58

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 17:13
Nah I won't get both, it's one or the other. But really, do you need aizen for hollow soul?  I mea ...

its nice having yoro or aizen for hollow souls since some of their supports can be annoying whether it be healing granting more defence/ dodge or dealing aoe to you
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-13 20:48:55

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-13 17:43
his silence works on VGs

Does it?         
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-9-13 20:52:08

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 20:48
Does it?

yeah                        
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-9-13 20:52:25

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 20:48
Does it?

yeah                        
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-13 21:44:37

sirnibbles replied at 2015-9-13 17:52
yeah

Naw.           
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-9-13 21:58:48

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 21:44
Naw.

yaw                     
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-13 23:07:43

sirnibbles replied at 2015-9-13 18:58
yaw

Well shit mine is bugged. Im quitting this stupid ass game
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-13 23:47:21

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 21:44
Naw.

it does after supports die
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-14 00:54:15

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-13 20:47
it does after supports die

Am I being trolled?
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-14 00:56:48

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-14 00:54
Am I being trolled?

no it really works on VGs which is why its nice if urahara can 1shot supports
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 01:05:52

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 19:36

Wtf.  Talking about timing, lol.  Only 2 or 3 persons from my server know about this.  You must certainly be one of them.

We joke around with this same quote, so funny you should bring it now.  
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 01:08:25

noctustheking replied at 2015-9-13 20:43
his silence works on VGs

You sure? I doubt it works on vanguards. As for having aizen or yoro in hollow souls, I've gotten fine right now without them.  I'm at 1st guard tosen.  Don't know if aizen would be necessary from this point on, since I get along well with my fully modded gin and unohana.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 01:11:51

sirnibbles replied at 2015-9-13 21:58
yaw

Now how would the eternal F2P knows if silence works on vanguard if as the name implies is Eternal F2P.  Unless, don't tell me you got shini uruhara from UBP too? Now I know why we getting crappy ubps, lol.
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-9-14 01:18:13

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:11
Now how would the eternal F2P knows if silence works on vanguard if as the name implies is Eternal ...

yes shini urahara was in ubp about 4 ubps ago now
and yes silence really does work on vgs
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-9-14 01:27:34

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:08
You sure? I doubt it works on vanguards. As for having aizen or yoro in hollow souls, I've gotten  ...

I have Shini Urahara and can confirm it does. Once supports die he silences vanguard.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 01:51:29

NNatsu replied at 2015-9-14 01:27
I have Shini Urahara and can confirm it does. Once supports die he silences vanguard.

So he's even better than I thought.  Wish I knew this earlier.Too bad, I just got aizen, lol. And he's very slow.
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-9-14 01:56:51

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:51
So he's even better than I thought.  Wish I knew this earlier.Too bad, I just got aizen, lol. And  ...

Well just because you got one doesn't mean you can't get the other. Shini Urahara is definitely better than tavern aizen.
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-14 02:02:58

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 22:05
Wtf.  Talking about timing, lol.  Only 2 or 3 persons from my server know about this.  You must ce ...

Look back at the thread. I was the first one to say that is the quote of the day and its being put in my Sig.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 02:20:35

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-14 02:02
Look back at the thread. I was the first one to say that is the quote of the day and its being put ...

Strange coincidence.  Some guys in my server use this quote a lot, so it caught my attention that you use it too.
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-14 02:25:44

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-13 23:20
Strange coincidence.  Some guys in my server use this quote a lot, so it caught my attention that y ...

Its funny as hell when it happened.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 02:25:57

NNatsu replied at 2015-9-14 01:56
Well just because you got one doesn't mean you can't get the other. Shini Urahara is definitely be ...

True.  But then I'd have to spend lots of xp scrolls lvling him, from scratch, plus I'd have to spend more scrolls making aizen 110 plus i'd have to find a way to get thier mod frags, since I"m more than filled with modfrags of my own.Can't afford modifying another partner, not now at least.

And as mentioned before, in case you missed it, I'm not gonna fall into gogames marketing plans to make me question myself whether to top up or not, lol.  Something like that, don't remember it exactly, lol.
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-9-14 03:46:09

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-14 02:25
Its funny as hell when it happened.

Don't let your dreams be dreams.
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-9-14 04:12:39

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 02:25
True.  But then I'd have to spend lots of xp scrolls lvling him, from scratch, plus I'd have to sp ...

Sounds like you never planned on getting him. This thread seems to have no point.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-14 04:18:08

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 23:07
Well shit mine is bugged. Im quitting this stupid ass game

Yeyyyyyy pls do it fast though =_=
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-14 04:20:48

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-14 02:25
Its funny as hell when it happened.

I said it first >.< I said it few months ago in fact-_- anyway someone in UN WAS THE FIRST ONE LEL
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-14 04:57:43

NNatsu replied at 2015-9-14 10:12
Sounds like you never planned on getting him. This thread seems to have no point.

Nah he seems kind of stubborn rather. He was refusing to hear how aizen is a must for hollow soul, and now he got him even for pvp purposes, and now he refuses to hear how good s.urahara is in pvp. It's like a cat and mice game
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-9-14 05:15:17

MikkyX replied at 2015-9-14 01:11
Now how would the eternal F2P knows if silence works on vanguard if as the name implies is Eternal ...

#IHaveLike40Alts
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-9-14 05:16:00

bwg2469 replied at 2015-9-13 23:07
Well shit mine is bugged. Im quitting this stupid ass game

dont know what you're talking bout, works against him

ryujiken18-whatever he said
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-9-14 10:33:21

           
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-9-14 10:46:45

go for urahara. hes insane.




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