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author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-8 09:09:54     Title: Any suggestions?

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2015-10-8 09:14

Okay, so I think I have my party straightened out...  looking for suggestions, and no purchased partners as I have to pay off the 2 I'm renting before I get back on that wagon...
Vang: Soph Rang and Starrk (may add toshi at a later date for more depth) for HM as backup
Assaulters: Isshin and Event Renji  both for PVE only
Supports: Shini kieske, Jushiro, SWP toshi (toshi swaps out for Isshin for PVE)
Zanpacto: Kazeshini (ES, Ryoka till 51.  not zabi as kaze is much more upgraded)
               Hyorinmaru (any time I have a vang in)
pve formation:  0-3-2,  1-2-2
pvp formation:  1-1-3
I am level 99, Starrk and SWP Toshi are not yet in my team, but they will be this week.
any thoughts, ideas, criticisms (as long as they are productive) will all be  welcome!!

I also have tavern kieske and D rukia as I have been considering having one or two fury builders in pve, but I really like my other supports...   so many decisions...
also, for more in depth info on my party for advice,  I'm ranked 5th in arena ATM in server US161  feel free to come take a peak for better advice, please!!

and a second question,  in protect seretei (mine is very well guarded) as an attacker, of these partners, what would you suggest as my assault team,  I use pvp team but have been told pve gets better points.  I know I won't take it, just want 1st place attacker in the bag!

Thanks in advance guys and gals!!
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-8 13:26:13

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author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 08:07:24

I'll re edit this post when i get further details but I'm trying to figure something out...yu said for pvp you use a 1-1-3 formation? I'm guessing thats Rangiku - Main - Shini Kisuke - Toshiro - and who? Jushiro? thats the only other support I seen you mentioned.

And for pve I'm assuming you use 0-3-2 for ES and 1-2-2 for Ryokya? (Just making sure I have my facts right)
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 08:11:30

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 08:07
I'll re edit this post when i get further details but I'm trying to figure something out...yu said f ...

yes,  I should have been more clear
your right on pvp party
and I do the first 51 waves of Ryoka with ES party which is isshin, event zabi, main, kieske, dark rukia (as both fury builders seem to up my damage there and in protect seretei strangely enough I found out last night, lol)   after wave 51 I swap out zabi for rang
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 08:18:07

Ok well my question is why do you need Jushiro? You have shini kisuke , who is pretty fast once you build him right you need not to worry about your support lane being stunned , by lets Aizen / Youri. So Imo I'd swap out jushiro and put in gin, who will work very well along side Toshiro in the backline. Why? Toshiro's flaw in his skill is that if the assaulter lane has 100 fury they can still skill. Gin however deducts fury at a 100% rate so basically with the 2 of them combined, the assaulter lane is completely useless! That's my two cents.

As for PVE thats a pretty decent setup, considering as you said you're limited to options right now since you're already renting. My question is , afterwards do you plan on getting more event partners? If so I'd recommend getting rid of D.Rukia and Event Renji ASAP. Cute ori, Shinso Gin, Sexy Youri all come highly recommended(well at the lower end of the tier , less you can afford Berserk Renji or even Retsu Unohana Kenny)
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 08:42:59

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 08:18
Ok well my question is why do you need Jushiro? You have shini kisuke , who is pretty fast once you  ...

never thought of adding gin to back row too...   sounds like it accomplishes my goal with additional benefits...  as for other partners,  I rented shinzo and used him for a bit before, but financial plans changed, so I'm keeping him expired ATM but still working the mod as evo is going to rangiku and shini ATM.  I love sexy, but she is isn't worth the price over renji IMO as renji is payed off and was basicly free.  cute ori is trumped by shini kieske IMO as middle row fury builders turn to crap when the middle row die (Hyorin doesn't help that at all as that's why isshin isn't in my pvp team) and shini hits back row harder than she does.  i think I'm done with event partners after shinzo, but if i do get one it would be b rukia (go big or go home, right?  lol)  but that won't be for a LONG time if ever.
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-10-9 09:00:06

i think ur setup is veru good, i'm not gonna talk about pve since u got that covered with tanaka also, as for lvl100pvp if i'm not mistaken u did mention ur questionning about wether to put ura or d rukia idk about rukia if she has 70 initial fury go for her, if not urahara last mod gives 20 fury thus easier to make him start skill 1st round, if u can put some 10l medium fury stones on 2 other partners ur team shoulld be 1 2 2 instead of 1 1 3

urahara t1 goes first followed with ishin t1 also (gin will becomme useless) followed ith shini urahara t1 also then main wich will have 100% combo with ishin makes him skill on the second combo

the issu with this setup is tavern ura speed hope u did some high evo on him so he keeps up with the likes of shini ura n ishin speed
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 09:05:43

Edited by TanakaAiri at 2015-10-9 09:12

Isn't worth the price? O_o High combo Rate(when evo'd)? Additional fury gain(to everyone mind you) , insane skill dmg? Increase to support damage? She is well worth the bang for the buck(especially over renji) and she's dropping radically in price! I would (if you can afford to get her) replace renji with her. But till then(or if you ever decide to) , Renji does a ok job i guess.

When i suggested Cute ori and the others ii was referring to PVE not PVP(as a replacement for D.rukia) You have a pretty decent pvp setup, can't really think of any other recommendations(except replacing toshiro with gin like i recommended) less you wanna venture farther into the paid partners which you seem like you don't want to or even a T1 setup

author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 09:14:26

thepoke007 replied at 2015-10-9 09:00
i think ur setup is veru good, i'm not gonna talk about pve since u got that covered with tanaka als ...

He uses Hyorin as his zanpakto for PVP, so isshin will be slower than my pet turtle(hyorin offers no boosts to assaulters), so idk how he would make isshin viable if he can't make him quick enough, he would probably need to invest ALOTTTTTT into agi stones, hogu etc
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-10-9 09:22:46

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 15:14
He uses Hyorin as his zanpakto for PVP, so isshin will be slower than my pet turtle(hyorin offers  ...

didn't notice it; indeed hyorin is useless for assault his call anyway i do have hyorin too but i'm using kaze in pvp for ishin purpose, with fortification now supp lines are faster with kaze than hyorin also, he's an op zan but his fortifications are damn usseless for now till u bring some noza and swp aizen together; well i dno't have rangeku as vg also; so maybe gin is the best solution still i do find it a shame to leave ishin on bench once u can t1 him his skills fits perfect
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 09:27:41

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 09:05
Isn't worth the price? O_o High combo Rate(when evo'd)? Additional fury gain(to everyone mind you) , ...

While I have been running Isshin a lot in pvp, he is just too slow and squishy.  as hyorin does nothing for him, and rangiku adds massive regen to everyone else, I'm doing away with the middle row in pvp.  My set up is more of a defensive/control one ATM and I'm basicly riding my vanguard. (not fighting against b rukia thank god).  My set up is blistering fast supports, tanky, regen inducing, powerhouse vang, and my squishy hard hitting middle...  I don't yet have enough stones to improve the squishy issue but do have level 6 and 7 (one or two 8) stamina stones on everyone so I am trying.   those around me in arena have either control (gin/yourichi) parties,  and also middle row destruction (tosen/shunsui) parties.  thanks for your thoughts, and I will think about them,  maybe use some of it in party making!!
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 09:29:38

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 09:14
He uses Hyorin as his zanpakto for PVP, so isshin will be slower than my pet turtle(hyorin offers  ...

right,  and those stones are going on my supports as they are always around a lot longer and help to control the fight.  Not to mention tthat rangiku giving them insane regen (I mean, rangiku regens 100k HP a turn,  mix that with hyorin giving her +70% hp and full strength...  well you know,  she's a monster, lol)
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 10:35:09

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-9 09:27
While I have been running Isshin a lot in pvp, he is just too slow and squishy.  as hyorin does no ...

No prob, glad i could spark some ideas for yuh. But all in all you seem to be on a right path! Keep up the goods work
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 12:43:26

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 10:35
No prob, glad i could spark some ideas for yuh. But all in all you seem to be on a right path! Kee ...

now, for a back up vang for HM,  currently I have sajin as he is there.  was thinking of Starrk as my Rang is built similar to how a good starrk would be built...  him or Norilta (espada 5)   what do you think?
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-9 12:59:55

Eh i personally think Nnoitora is awful, and well he's built around the assaulter lane(which in your case doesn't really offer much help since you run 1-1-3 and use hyorin! So I would just go with stark, because hyorin + stark = #GodStark
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-9 14:06:57

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-9 12:59
Eh i personally think Nnoitora is awful, and well he's built around the assaulter lane(which in your ...

yeah,  not to mention my Rang is 100k BP higher than everyone else on team, lol   level 99,  263kbp,  not terrible I'd say, lol




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