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author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-17 12:46:30     Title: Is noza kenny bugged?

IF he's bugged is he not worth getting then?

author: ajoalex    time: 2015-10-17 12:48:21

how is he bugged?
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 12:52:27

Edited by Zento-Hazashi at 2015-10-17 18:03

lol after Seiryu said this xD

anyways, it's his fossilize skill, I wouldn't say it's bugged, more to the fact that it's a terrible skill lol

Pretty much fossilize (quite self-explanatory) makes the enemy unable to move, at all so they can't do anything whilst also being invulnerable (immortal in this case)

However, in this case, you can't hurt them WITH SKILL attacks, so someone like Urahara would never be able to hurt them, you can only injure them with non-skill attacks

this is a huge problem since by the time you get Noza Ken (lvl 120) You're going to be high lvl; good formations and somewhat extremely powerful with good partners since you need to be VIP 5 which means those people are going to be regenerating fury with good combo's, and focusing other enemy partners that aren't the vanguard.

Also take note that Noza Ken skill gives 100 fury to anyone on your team; that person that gets the fury can't injure the enemy that's fossilized. also in 1v1 situations, it's the fucking worst since it always goes back to Noza Ken; he can't hurt anyone for 20 rounds pretty much lol


Edit: For reference - http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US

author: Evild4nte    time: 2015-10-17 12:55:52

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 12:52
lol after Seiryu said this xD

anyways, it's his fossilize skill, I wouldn't say it's bugged, more t ...

You forgot to mention, that at some level everybody´s nozaken has around 120% blockrate, while its not possible to bring breakdef that high, which means he will step by step kill your team, while he is invincible.
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-17 13:02:15

Evild4nte replied at 2015-10-17 17:55
You forgot to mention, that at some level everybody´s nozaken has around 120% blockrate, while its ...

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author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 13:02:26

For Reference - http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US  <-- best example
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 13:03:30

Evild4nte replied at 2015-10-17 17:55
You forgot to mention, that at some level everybody´s nozaken has around 120% blockrate, while its ...

Noza Ken doesn't become invincible, it's the other way around, the enemy becomes invincible which is the bad thing
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-17 13:10:34

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 18:03
Noza Ken doesn't become invincible, it's the other way around, the enemy becomes invincible which  ...

if u put revive on noza's weapon, maybe there is a chance of winning based on who has more hp ofc
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 13:12:27

Edited by Zento-Hazashi at 2017-2-2 11:40

before i kick Noza Ken to utter shit

He is PERFECT for PVE, doing 350% Growth rate skill pretty much every time, increasing own crit rate and attack rate by a high percentage, he's brilliant!

If you are planning to get him, you might aswell, i mean he's good in PVP as long as your Noza Ken actually kills with the fossilize ability, or your team is faster and kills the enemy vanguard quick enough, or once again that your team doesn't actually regenerate fury at a crazy rate to the point you always do skill every round

for reference on who's doing Noza Ken right - http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... d=58&t=1&lang=en_US




TL;DR on all of this: He's PERFECT for PVE, troublesome for PVP if your team is a high VIP formation. If they do not regenerate fury at a crazy rate, then it's fine, get him as long as your team does normal attacks then and again. Try avoiding to T1 him unless he does a CRAZY amount of damage (like 1 hit enemy vanguard kinda damage)
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 13:13:29

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-17 18:10
if u put revive on noza's weapon, maybe there is a chance of winning based on who has more hp ofc

yeah but, the rest of the team is still available to kick a Noza Ken's ass while the Noza Ken is attacking nothing xD

that maybe is a really low chance, which sucks :/
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-17 13:16:15

that looks CRAP noza is CRAP =D
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 13:26:14

Evild4nte replied at 2015-10-17 12:55
You forgot to mention, that at some level everybody´s nozaken has around 120% blockrate, while its ...

with evo and bond it is possible to get someone to that lvl of break defense
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 13:26:30

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 13:12
before i kick Noza Ken to utter shit

He is PERFECT for PVE, doing 350% Growth rate skill pretty muc ...

my team skills like every round got to change whole formation so i dun encounter that problem with BWG
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 13:30:29

HE IS NOT  bugged his case is just the same as unohana kenpachi ... if she was the only one left then she is invisible ....... WHY PEOPLE DON'T complain about her ?? just because Noza's buff can be annoying sometimes doesn't mean that he is bugged =.=
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-10-17 13:37:38

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 13:30
HE IS NOT  bugged his case is just the same as unohana kenpachi ... if she was the only one left the ...

Well, for quite a few reasons. She is a event character. She is a support. She is the squishiest character in the game. She is slow.

Honestly, I am not sure why anyone likes her at all. The chances of her "comboing" is so low against adequate opponents, and it gets lower with each new character introduced.

Shes pure PvE to me.
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 13:49:41

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-17 21:37
Well, for quite a few reasons. She is a event character. She is a support. She is the squishiest c ...

well,for quite a reason Noza is the same since u need vip5 to get him ... he is a vanguard,he is slow
he is pure PvE ..
._. that's why i compared him to uno mate
author: Aristeaus    time: 2015-10-17 13:58:54

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 13:49
well,for quite a reason Noza is the same since u need vip5 to get him ... he is a vanguard,he is s ...

All Vanguard are slow. They make up for this by being tanky as %!%.

I actually like Noza for PvP. A lot of the time, Petrifying VG is a good thing for you, as long as you have more HP.
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 14:04:20

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-17 21:58
All Vanguard are slow. They make up for this by being tanky as %!%.

I actually like Noza for PvP ...

-.-' i was on Noza's side from the first man,what are u trying to prove to me
anyway just like i said he is not bugged and he's not bad
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 14:07:28

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 18:30
HE IS NOT  bugged his case is just the same as unohana kenpachi ... if she was the only one left the ...

We don't complain about Uno because it's a buff to Uno herself lol

Noza Ken gives himself a debuff, not only to himself, but everyone
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 14:08:18

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 18:30
HE IS NOT  bugged his case is just the same as unohana kenpachi ... if she was the only one left the ...

We don't complain about Uno because it's a buff to Uno herself lol

Noza Ken gives himself a debuff, not only to himself, but everyone
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 14:10:22

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 22:07
We don't complain about Uno because it's a buff to Uno herself lol

Noza Ken gives himself a debuf ...

he is a monster in ryoka
so deal with it baby bahahahahah
all this kenny talking made me do this[attach]9038[/attach]

author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:21:43

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 13:12
before i kick Noza Ken to utter shit

He is PERFECT for PVE, doing 350% Growth rate skill pretty muc ...

result : noza's too good to be true in PVE , NOZA too bad to be true in PVP
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-17 14:41:39

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 19:41
yup

aha you're the example i used aren't you? Formations like yours, absolute no-no for Noza Ken

and mine?
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 14:41:46

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 19:21
result : noza's too good to be true in PVE , NOZA too bad to be true in PVP

yup

aha you're the example i used aren't you? Formations like yours, absolute no-no for Noza Ken

formations like Genji's? Absolute yes-yes for Noza Ken!
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:50:23

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 14:41
yup

aha you're the example i used aren't you? Formations like yours, absolute no-no for Noza Ken

formation like BWG : HELL NO NOZA KENNY HIS FORMATION BASICALLY EVERYONE EXCEPT MAIN GET 100FURY BACK EVERYTIME LOL
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:51:41

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 13:30
HE IS NOT  bugged his case is just the same as unohana kenpachi ... if she was the only one left the ...

YEAH IT'S BECAUSE NOZA BUFF IS GOOD FOR YOUR ENEMY NOT FOR YOU LIKE RETSU CASE ( NOZA IS SUPPOSED TO CAUSE A CC BUT THAT CC JUST MAKE YOUR OPPONENT HAVE HIGHER CHANCE TO WIN)
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:52:51

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-17 13:58
All Vanguard are slow. They make up for this by being tanky as %!%.

I actually like Noza for PvP ...

BUT IF 2 PARTNERS OF ENEMY TEAM SURVIVES YOU WILL LOSE CZ WHO WINS IS THE ONE WITH MOST PARTNERS IF IT'S 1VS1 IN THE END IT BECOMES THE ONE WITH MOST hp
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 14:53:04

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 22:51
YEAH IT'S BECAUSE NOZA BUFF IS GOOD FOR YOUR ENEMY NOT FOR YOU LIKE RETSU CASE ( NOZA IS SUPPOSED  ...

okay .-.
don't use him then,use #GodStarrk
problem solved .

author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:56:23

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 14:53
okay .-.
don't use him then,use #GodStarrk
problem solved .

oh another PROBLEM ( I DISMISSED #GODSTARK)

#NOTGONNAFREAKINWASTESILVERANDMODCHANCESONHIM

+ GETTING DEMON JUST SAVING RIGHT NOW
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 14:58:04

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 19:53
okay .-.
don't use him then,use #GodStarrk
problem solved .

love yo' logic
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 14:58:24

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 19:50
formation like BWG : HELL NO NOZA KENNY HIS FORMATION BASICALLY EVERYONE EXCEPT MAIN GET 100FURY B ...

hahaha lmfao xD
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 14:59:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 14:58
hahaha lmfao xD

   
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:00:18

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 22:56
oh another PROBLEM ( I DISMISSED #GODSTARK)

#NOTGONNAFREAKINWASTESILVERANDMODCHANCESONHIM

u dismissd starrk ....... [attach]9039[/attach]

author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:01:38

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 22:58
love yo' logic

love you too <3        
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 15:02:18

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 15:00
u dismissd starrk .......

yeah in fact i remembered i never recruited him initially XD
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:05:27

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 23:02
yeah in fact i remembered i never recruited him initially XD

yeah,yeah and you are trying to beat BWG huh ... yeah my potato .. .. good luck having a sexy formation without starrk
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 15:06:16

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 15:05
yeah,yeah and you are trying to beat BWG huh ... yeah my potato .. .. good luck having a sexy form ...

i am having bankai #SHUNSUIIIIIII SO YEAH
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:08:40

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 23:06
i am having bankai #SHUNSUIIIIIII SO YEAH

bankai shunsui ?
stay quite or you will get raped by a random curious cat
don't say i didn't warn you
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 15:08:57

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 15:08
bankai shunsui ?
stay quite or you will get raped by a random curious cat
don't say i didn't warn ...

LOL               
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 15:12:45

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 20:08
bankai shunsui ?
stay quite or you will get raped by a random curious cat
don't say i didn't warn ...

when did you become

well, you

this is sexy
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:17:42

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 23:12
when did you become

well, you

[attach]9040[/attach]
i finally got a complement from Zento
you know what that means ?
it means that i have to go to sleep because i have school tomorrow ... FUCK ..

author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 15:19:51

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 20:17
i finally got a complement from Zento
you know what that means ?
it means that i have t ...

HAH school, i remember those days <3


sleep is for amazing people, get yo ass to sleep <3
author: Gurr    time: 2015-10-17 15:19:59

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-17 14:52
BUT IF 2 PARTNERS OF ENEMY TEAM SURVIVES YOU WILL LOSE CZ WHO WINS IS THE ONE WITH MOST PARTNERS I ...

nope it's still depends on hp if your kenny got more than combined hp of 2 opponents he'll win
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 15:21:02

Gurr replied at 2015-10-17 15:19
nope it's still depends on hp if your kenny got more than combined hp of 2 opponents he'll win

nope you're in russian servers here it works differently bro i battle like 20 ppl everyday and i sometime face that result
author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-17 15:21:19

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 12:52
lol after Seiryu said this xD

anyways, it's his fossilize skill, I wouldn't say it's bugged, more t ...

yeah i get that, i thought he was bugged bugged, my assulters are kido - isshin - shini kensei with senbon. i figured even if the enemy vanguard is untargettable by skills, it wont matter with my set up . what do u think? sorry 4 bothering u and thx
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-10-17 15:22:54

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 23:19
HAH school, i remember those days

yep,yep just one more minute ..
(that's what i said to my self 6 hrs ago)
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 15:32:44

hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-17 20:21
yeah i get that, i thought he was bugged bugged, my assulters are kido - isshin - shini kensei wit ...

what's your full formation? can't just be 3 people xD

and it's fine ^^

Shini Kensei? You beauty <3 Anyways, Kensei won't do damage to the enemy VG, but the others will, since they won't be forever T1

even if you do have a fury supporter, it's fine since they won't give that much to the point you always do a skill every turn like Ooba does ^^ So you should be fine, as long as your Noza Ken does a mass amount of damage anyways, since that's what his 350% Growth Rate is there for
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 15:34:14

Suzuken replied at 2015-10-17 20:22
yep,yep just one more minute ..
(that's what i said to my self 6 hrs ago)

Go for longer, don't be a fool and 'go to bed'

sleep is cool, but staying up longer than intended? pfft, what beats that coolness
author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-17 15:43:32

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 15:32
what's your full formation? can't just be 3 people xD

and it's fine ^^

LOL i didnt realize i didnt list them all
its currently : sajin, kido - isshin - shini kensei and kenpachi unohana as supp.
thanks again xD and yeah i figured that haha
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-17 15:48:59

hasoonfcb replied at 2015-10-17 20:43
LOL i didnt realize i didnt list them all
its currently : sajin, kido - isshin - shini kensei and ...

Right then, yeah your formation seems fine for it, no problems at all

ofc there'll be the occasional assaulter(s) not dealing damage due to Kensei and Isshin giving insane combo rate every turn, but that will of course be infused with normal attacks
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-10-17 15:52:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-17 15:48
Right then, yeah your formation seems fine for it, no problems at all

ofc there'll be the occa ...

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