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author: dionysvs time: 2015-10-18 15:03:41 Title: Sets of agility spirit stones

Edited by dionysvs at 2015-10-18 15:12

this is a question for the end gamers (110+?)
how many sets of agility stones do you really need?

for me, in most pvp fights it ALL depends on who has the faster isshin
but when the other side has a support stunning assault ill need to make sure main is faster to defend against stun
if i fight shinso i can make yoruichi faster and hope for a stun (her "high" stun chance is really low even against lower lvls...)

in the end i need 2 sets of agility minimum and maybe 3 to be safe, but im keeping 4 sets atm

so how many sets do you need in the end?

thanks

author: abuomar8805 time: 2015-10-18 15:07:55

i use ultima aizen so 1 set is enough for me

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-18 15:55:41

It really depends on your formation, but I believe 2 is the most solid choice. I'm using 2 myself, one on tavern Aizen, one on SWP Aizen. Need both of em to completely block my enemies since SWP aizen is useless against pure t1 supps

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-18 15:57:55

Probably 2 for most people / lower vips.
You need 1 for the fury giver and 1 for the fury receiver. If you have OP partners you can go with 1 set but that char should have some kind of special effect.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-18 17:02:51

Brahmastra replied at 2015-10-18 15:57
Probably 2 for most people / lower vips.
You need 1 for the fury giver and 1 for the fury receiver. ...

nice pic brah.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-18 17:06:19

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-18 17:02
nice pic brah.

such a qt

http://alfredowkwk.deviantart.com/art/Shutara-443301013

author: fuckyou128 time: 2015-10-18 17:16:11

u needs 0 set of agility stones cuz u can make an op vg without em :]

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-18 18:29:40

u only need 1 set

i got a set on lv12 on mugu and sadly he only 350k at his current lvl and that all u need.. one decent partner

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-18 18:30:10

Brahmastra replied at 2015-10-18 17:06
such a qt

http://alfredowkwk.deviantart.com/art/Shutara-443301013

kawaiiiiiiiii

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-18 23:17:09

A good team is not depending on 1 single or two partner(s)... If you stack them into 1 single partner, you can do well against those who are weaker than you. If you face similar power people, it maybe ok. But anything stronger, it simply doesnt work. Plus, you will do horrible in PvE. Like Ryoka and ES. It also look bad when you only have 1 single player and all other partners + your main is just decoration. True top player will have a team that will use all his partners efficiently. VG, you might not need speed but the rest will. Build them up slowly... If you run out of strategy or low on funding, focus on 1 or 2 then. If you want a good team, spread them out for those that needs it.

author: Gurr time: 2015-10-18 23:53:29

nope all you need is 1 strong partner at pvp, good team is only needed on pve to max out dps.http://bleach.playxp.ru/fightrep ... ;t=1&lang=ru_RU if i'd spread out equip from van to make balanced team i'd been beaten in that fight and if opponent is stronger it's only natural to lose, because if you win YOU are the stronger one)

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-18 23:56:34

DeEmEn is correct, you try to get all your partners faster than your opponents but don't mess with PVE too much because the silver you get from those events will matter the most down the road. This is coming from a person that has full team T1, 2 full +12 AGI sets if i merge it right now. My #1 focus is PVE because its hard to fuel my reinforces now with the cost of 26mil each time to upgrade. Little bit of advice on PVP.....you can spend $1,000 or $5,000 and you will STILL lose to the person that spend $1,000 because they are just a better and smarter player then you are. I'll give a shout out to Ooba and Noob for proving that point many times over.

author: llKhiz time: 2015-10-19 01:39:24

I have agility on everyone but the vanguard. The highest on my isshin as he's t1. I get him to the point where he skills before my opponents and then I share the rest around so I can actually beat people. My isshin and my main are the most important speed wise. Isshin to stop their assaulter line and my main to evening ceremony all over their ass.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 02:59:05

i have agility on my bya and mug only. tavern uno is my supporter so i just need her to die giving me that extra hp to get more chances of staying alive. my main stays alive to tops who are VG heavy as bya+mug will finish the as+sup lane, otherwise he will anyways be killed so its pointless to have agi on my main now. will grow him up when his evo gets implemented. noza sometimes gives those heavy VGs a tuff time before dying . need to get my defense up tho. and i def dont want that true top best blah blah player award from gogames in this pixel game lol .

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 05:31:26

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 05:17
A good team is not depending on 1 single or two partner(s)... If you stack them into 1 single partne ...

Wrong.

You need 2+ agility sets. raw power isn't the answer, speed on the other hand with control is.
Once you have your opponent on lock down, you can destroy him with your 'slower' partners.. but hey they're not slow if your opponent can't even move his 4ss.

So good luck not stacking your agility stones vs someone who does. I guarantee you'll lose 100% of the times if your opponent has brains.

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-19 06:25:14

Well, it's a mix of both strength and speed. My current setup is Aizen(t1)-SWP Aizen-Isshin-Main-Starrk with Muramasa vip6 bp 1.9m. Running 2 agi sets on supps. This way I've been able to beat some vip9-10 with 600k bp more cause I was faster and I could control their entire team, tho I'm facing trouble with pure t1 assaulter lines. I find 2 the perfect amount, 1 is for hardcores imho who can 1 shot entire teams of all of their enemies, but they don't even need to discuss strategies, cause if they do, they're doing something totally wrong.

author: Gurr time: 2015-10-19 07:10:16

my team in earlier example was controlled most time of the fight and it didn't help my opponent. you can beat even those who's controllig you if you are strong enough

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-10-19 07:16:00

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-18 23:56
DeEmEn is correct, you try to get all your partners faster than your opponents but don't mess with P ...

noobs gotta be like the smartest topper upper ever

how strong he is at VIP 9 is insane,especially since he didn't have all these good events when he topped

#NoobForPrez2016

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-19 07:46:58

Gurr replied at 2015-10-19 07:10
my team in earlier example was controlled most time of the fight and it didn't help my opponent. you ...

Well obviously,but nothing is for granted. Your starrk could be countered by an SWP Aizen with high break def and you could end up killing yourself easily enough. Different formations get countered differently, that's why I suggest 2 agi sets.
In the long run pve>pvp, that's why I find 1 character stacking a terrible choice, unless you're not planning to stick for long.
Btw check this BR http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US I'm about 600k bp behind

author: Gurr time: 2015-10-19 08:38:19

moongoatie replied at 2015-10-19 07:46
Well obviously,but nothing is for granted. Your starrk could be countered by an SWP Aizen with hig ...

don't get me wrong in pve like a said earlier good team is a must but in pvp 1 strong char is more than enough. in ma br opponent had 300k+ more bp and still lost and if only main and stark were in my team at that time i'd still win even with about 1kk difference in bp.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 10:11:41

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 05:31
Wrong.

You need 2+ agility sets. raw power isn't the answer, speed on the other hand with control ...

You are wrong. I am not talking about raw power. Like I said, if your funding is allowed and be a true top player, you dont need or dont want to stack them all in 1 or 2 characters. You can stack vs someone weaker than you. But once you face someone stronger, you dont stand a chance. This is why we have a team formation, not a solo rambo character. If you cant figure out the advantage to best use your characters, and stack everything into 1 or 2 characters, then you are the one that has no brain because you couldnt bother to do so. or... simply dont have the brain to figure out and follow what other does.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 11:39:01

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-10-19 20:59

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 19:11
You are wrong. I am not talking about raw power. Like I said, if your funding is allowed and be a ...

"You can stack vs someone weaker than you. But once you face someone stronger, you dont stand a chance."
you are wrong !! simple example. you might not know these ppl though, not very famous. but still an example for you.

PS- all the above happened when both of them were online so no taking advantage of the evo/bond bp bugs.
oh then there is gw, #1 gets 4th -6th position while that bloody stacker gets first position whenever he plays.
then there is PS, before that #2 became a "Stacker" this #1 used to defend his guild for 8-10 days. but now cos of that bloody stacker he cant defend for more than a day.
ah alliance battle, thats the best. #2 wipes out #1 9/10 times. #lessHpBonus
that #1 is now a anti-stacker preacher because of a certain "stacker"[swapper] . I wonder who uses the brains now as per your research analysis !! But yes this #1 is a true top player, clap clap !!

I need to start a thread for this true top player thingy btw.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 12:05:36

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 16:11
You are wrong. I am not talking about raw power. Like I said, if your funding is allowed and be a ...

This is painfull.. but you're the one that's wrong.

you dont need or dont want to stack them all in 1 or 2 characters.

You do. If you can't outspeed your opponent then you're done for and I'm talking endgame where speed matters.

If you cant figure out the advantage to best use your characters, and stack everything into 1 or 2 characters, then you are the one that has no brain because you couldnt bother to do so

Let's play a game. I'll counter any team you can imagine with my own team (out of my team, I'll have 2 partners that have higher speed than your team since I'm a speedstacker). I'll win 100% of the time, but hey you have the chance to prove me that I have no brain, so go for it.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:11:36

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-19 12:15

Oh you talked about gw? What about ES and Ryoka, the events that meant the most? I dont see you post your pathetic damage?? I dont see you talk about it when you lose to me? lol. Go ahead, nice story that you are telling. Keep telling that when you need to adjust so much to win. I dont bother adjusting my stuff to beat you, I just sit there and let you adjust. Did you beat Cyra in 2 rounds? Did you beat August? I dont think so. Enough said there.
Yes, less HP bonus, you are right, that's why your Byakuya is faster and kill the team.

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-19 12:11:37

Lol I think most people mistake focusing with stacking a partner

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:19:42

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:11
Oh you talked about gw? What about ES and Ryoka, the events that meant the most? I dont see you post ...

you must be some kind of stupid, right? i was talking about "You can stack vs someone weaker than you. But once you face someone stronger, you dont stand a chance." , one of your testimonials O priest. Its obv that you would do more damage and even are stronger than me. lol and i dt even have a supporter who does dmg in events, else who knows i could have come close to u. my 95m vs ur 135m in ES sounds ok, considering ur lvl and gear diff and esp u being the true top player.

Nopes, i just need to swap to get a chance to beat your ass. Oh look someone has been trying a lot today eh

,
Oh so i have to beat cyra in 2 rounds, the next benchmark eh?
I didnt beat August but i beat September, a month back ie.

Are you bragging or preaching?

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:21:40

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-19 12:30

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 12:05
This is painfull.. but you're the one that's wrong.

You talk about End Game? End Game means everyone eventually gets lvl 12 speed stones on all partners. Right now you are talking about mid game...

I just did

You are not easy to beat, you are also a good player too.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 12:26:10

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 18:21
You talk about End Game? End Game means everyone eventually gets lvl 12 speed stones on all partner ...

Well dude even if you wanna talk about that endgame where everyone has lvl12stones and shit.. then you can't be talking about 'stackers' either. #SmoothLogic

My counter: SWP Aizen/Retsu kenpachi - Mugetsu/Main/TSI
Zanpakuto: Tensa zangetsu

Aaaaaaaand you just got rekked.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:26:37

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:11
Oh you talked about gw? What about ES and Ryoka, the events that meant the most? I dont see you post ...

hahahaha, thanks man. you really showed something diff no one here has ever seen, #1 slaving #2. clap clap,
one question, were you always like this or did you mentally change because someone beat you in arena? u do see a doc i suppose right, pls do, i really care for you and i really dont want you to leave the game or get mad.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 12:26:52

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 18:11
Oh you talked about gw? What about ES and Ryoka, the events that meant the most? I dont see you post ...

Keep telling that when you need to adjust so much to win

. I dont bother adjusting my stuff to beat you, I just sit there and let you adjust.

Makes sense..

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:29:24

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 12:19
you must be some kind of stupid, right? i was talking about "You can stack vs someone weaker than ...

I am not even trying or bother to adjust, I just feel like attacking you for the sake of it.

Lol, then lets see you try to come close to me. My damage varies from 135-150m, why you post your max damage vs my minimal damage? My max damage makes you look too bad? Of course, you dont expect anything less from me, even tho I am still weak compare to true top players in US like bwg.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:31:23

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 12:26
vs

I was talking about him, not me...

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-19 12:32:32

** brings the popcorn*** im too booored

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:32:47

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 12:26
hahahaha, thanks man. you really showed something diff no one here has ever seen, #1 slaving #2. ...

My mental is fine. Your stacking method is just making me sick. Seems like you ran out of strategy and just struggle just to beat me. Post up your gears and show everyone all your partners, please do.

I am far from quitting lol. Dont have to worry about that.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 12:33:11

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 18:31
I was talking about him, not me...

Doesn't matter, you'll have to adjust just as much as he has to do beat you..

+ did you like my team format? (got plenty others aswell)

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:34:49

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:21
You talk about End Game? End Game means everyone eventually gets lvl 12 speed stones on all partner ...

so u just beat his pilot, and 6 attempts and you couldnt beat a weakling stacker. does that make me stronger than august or do i have a brain? oh wait, i could be on the path to be the next true top player

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:37:42

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-19 12:41

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 12:33
Doesn't matter, you'll have to adjust just as much as he has to do beat you..

+ did you like my t ...

I dont adjust, my aim is not beating him, since I know he is just a trash.
I dont know about your team until you put them into fight. Just typed out means nothing.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:40:01

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 12:34
so u just beat his pilot, and 6 attempts and you couldnt beat a weakling stacker. does that make m ...

It's not an attempt, an attempt is when you tried. I didnt, so it's not an attempt, it's a simply click for the heck of it. Talk about brag, the post you made with screenshot of it, you dont call that bragging? It's the same purpose that I have, I am just trying to prove something.
Can you even beat his pilot? lol!

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:43:10

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:37
I dont adjust, my aim is not beating him, since I know he is just a trash.

a trash just beat you , slaved you and you lost 6 times. i can understand your feelings now. just dont try too much cos u have just 20 free chances per day.

err i rarely get to see u attack, i just notice the first dmg, its usually 135m.

you know what, you are mixing things up here, you are getting butthurt and confused at the same time, its a deadly thing you see and poisonous at times too.

i just told about my team formation before you dodo, i have lvl 100 gears on all but vg who has 2 sets of 110 n 1 set of 100. and if you are saying that i dont have strategy then it proves that you are the biggest idiot in this game. dont worry i will be with you #bleachFriendsForLife .

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:44:53

@DeEmEn, i am going to change to pve, this is your chance to beat me with 100% chance. use your brain and be the true top player you always was !!

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 12:49:01

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:40
It's not an attempt, an attempt is when you tried. I didnt, so it's not an attempt, it's a simply c ...

i posted to prove you wrong
you posted as you are dumb and you are constantly proving it. pls stop, its painful

i will beat his pilot the day he starts acting like an idiot. since he is not, i dt take the time.
to beat you is simple, just swap aka just a click(or two)

and there is a chance. but you making it look like i am stronger than you or something. i am very humbled by your compliments.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-19 12:50:44

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 17:32
My mental is fine. Your stacking method is just making me sick. Seems like you ran out of strategy ...

hey hey now, leave us #Stackers alone, it hurts me, i've already had the worst week ever

(BTW this is quite irrelevant, just stating stuff out)
Anyways, we don't stack to see how powerful they become and that they are op, some of us (Like me!

) just stack on main because that's what we did in the early lvls and as a 'newb', for when we didn't know any better. Another personal reason is to the fact that I don't have the right partners yet, so im completely ignoring them till i get the partners i want ^^

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:53:13

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 12:43
a trash just beat you , slaved you and you lost 6 times. i can understand your feelings now. just ...

I just slaved you too, it's a back and forth game. I am not mixing things up or get butthurt like you think I am.

Like I said, I am not even trying, and since when you get 20 challenge chances? lol...

Post the screenshot of your equipments up, do it. With your stones, hogyoku and accessories? lol. You know what, dont bother, you will probably adjust them before you take the screenshot lol. Since you are so good at adjusting.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 12:59:26

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 12:49
i posted to prove you wrong
you posted as you are dumb and you are constantly proving it. pls stop ...

If that's what makes you feel better, keep looking at it this way then. I am not stopping you.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:01:42

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 21:53
I just slaved you too, it's a back and forth game. I am not mixing things up or get butthurt like ...

I just slaved you too

yay , you get 5pts. keep it up.

when you get 20 challenge chances?

i purposely did that , cos you weren't making any sense at all here, didnt want to disappoint you completely.

Post the screenshot of your equipments up, do it. With your stones, hogyoku and accessories?

are you illiterate? do you see that bp diff? what are you trying to prove other than making yourself the biggest fool of the day ? let ES finish, i will take screenies and show.

You know what, dont bother, you will probably adjust them before you take the screenshot lol. Since you are so good at adjusting.

ever heard of the exchange option. you see when you do that, all the items from player a goes to player b, so its automatic, i dont need to change all that manually. u can try it. its in the partner option. its like just 4 clicks since all u do is just for the sake of a click. its very easy, ask me any queries if you find it hard.

now pls dont post a screenshot of you defeating me, thats the biggest joke. its already understood that you ..well...should be beating me everytime as per ur scientific studies.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 13:05:44

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 13:01
yay , you get 5pts. keep it up.

lol purposely ok...

Do show, who knows, you might switch things around because not everyone will make an account to that person's server and check their stuff to confirm.

You do more than just exchange lol... Dont even try to lie to everyone here. Post the screenshot for all the stones and gears and hogyoku. haha...

Defeating you is something I can do without posting screenshot. I dont need to prove it to anyone, unless they asked for it.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:10:36

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 22:05
lol purposely ok...

Do show, who knows, you might switch things around because not everyone will ...

You do more than just exchange lol... Dont even try to lie to everyone here.

dude apart from the fact that you are talking shit, i only exchange from bya to mug and vice versa. i took all agi stones from uno since she doesnt need it . and i have enough agi stones in my backpack to be faster than you whenever needed and if you even topup so i am not sure what you are talking about.

my hogu, treasure, all makes sense to what formation i have. dude, i really lost all the respect for you as a true top player, you couldnt even understand what i did and what i didn't. you are such a waste man, get lost from my life. i hate you !!

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:13:13

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 22:05
lol purposely ok...

Do show, who knows, you might switch things around because not everyone will ...

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 13:16:21

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 13:10
dude apart from the fact that you are talking shit, i only exchange from bya to mug and vice vers ...

You never had any respect for me anyways, stop making yourself look good lol. Just admit you are stacking just to beat me. haha. I took ss of your partners during ES, so I will be waiting for your ss.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-19 13:18:07

llKhiz replied at 2015-10-19 01:39
I have agility on everyone but the vanguard. The highest on my isshin as he's t1. I get him to the p ...

oooh...,
Thats where you fail, with my formation my most important was getting my defense up to speed and balance my kido user have even higher phy def than my phy attker, so whole defence is good and also as good was my tank and that for a AOE suvival if enemy main turn out to be faster with Destroy the World or something, and also MY support are T1 for PVP and even thou you top my Assaulter my support will shut you down and your support cuz there are #GodFlash the only may to win to shutdown my support and pray that my assaulter dnt finish you off withing the next two round or my support are back on track.
Also, Considering getting you weakness up to str is a great way to boost team, as i mention even kido users have even better def than str mains so you AOE will do little to my support unless they are coming from your support which is usually weaker.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-19 13:19:13

llKhiz replied at 2015-10-19 01:39
I have agility on everyone but the vanguard. The highest on my isshin as he's t1. I get him to the p ...

so easy t1 swp tshiro for you and its night night.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:21:47

Edited by ajoalex at 2015-10-19 22:26

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 22:16
You never had any respect for me anyways, stop making yourself look good lol. Just admit you are s ...

i was lazy to do it, so i just wanted to make you do it. i knew it was easy to make a fool out of you. for someone who is not using gin lol. i have already revealed my team formation to every tom dick and harry i know lol. pls do the needful

its not stacking you nitwit. i just upgrade the players i need to. i make my bya go first to beat you in gw/ps/bb . i get coupons so why not. and i swap back to beat others +csb.

since u took ss of pve, do take ss of my pvp, i just exchanged stuff from pve partners to pvp partners.
oh and if doing evo+bond for 2 players is also stacking then i am the ultimate stacker !!

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 13:27:39

I did do the PvP after you swap back. It's not just PvE that I took. You dont use different VG and main, so that stays the same, just support I did the ss of her after you swap it back. So how is it? Does it even come closer in ES? I see you try to finish off Quincy before I joined, but I took the last hit from you... awww poor baby... Too lazy? or scared to feel ashame? Come on, post them out to defend yourself that all your other partners doesnt have a BIG gaps in speed and power.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:33:30

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 22:27
I did do the PvP after you swap back. It's not just PvE that I took. You dont use different VG and m ...

i am sorry to tell you that i was on auto the whole time, i didnt even spend a single coupon. i even missed a min or 2 in between diff ES's as i was away from pc. i am not sure if this will make you butthurt, but i dont need to lie and i admit if i did something . so yeah, apply cream, it could burn a lot.

you remind me of my childhood days, in kindergarten, we used to play 'i took the last hit from you' kinda games. i thought you just said such stuff once, but i see that you keep on saying them. nice to know u have a heart of a kid but the brain of a..well .. the dumbest thing on earth or rather no brain at all eh

reg my team members, u still aren't making any sense man, what in the blue hell are you trying to tell?
i will make it clear incase its hard for u to understand
uno/bya/mug gets replaced with kisuke/be.renji/isshin, for pve thats all. and vice versa for pvp. and i swap bya with mug depending on partner formations. stop acting like a child and make sense for once .

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-19 13:34:31

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 18:27
I did do the PvP after you swap back. It's not just PvE that I took. You dont use different VG and m ...

Dude

We're not exactly scared to post other partners

As i said we have reason to stack certain characters, Ajo even showed me that he goes ALL out on Byakuya so he can specifically beat YOU (Someone admittedly stronger), however take note of that, he's going against your words of that stacking a character can't beat someone that is exceedingly stronger, nothing else, so shush about PVE and what not, and go back to your own words and what he's trying to say.

Edit: Quote for reference -

But anything stronger, it simply doesnt work.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 13:57:53

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-19 22:34
Dude

ah finally someone understands without even me trying to explain even once. So i am sure i have made myself very clear here. Time to sleep and goodnite to all.

@DeEmEn, the trick i do to swap is the Exchange option, its very easy, try it out. gn !!

for those who wants to see the BR of deEmEn losing to me (no point showing the ones in which i lose, cos thats the usual stuff as expected when fighting a strong one, also taka just fought me 6 times n lost so i dt have a BR, he could share one if anyone wants , or i will later

) here they are
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... ;t=1&lang=en_US

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 14:13:15

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 13:33
i am sorry to tell you that i was on auto the whole time, i didnt even spend a single coupon. i ev ...

Sure you didnt, after I have seen your damage went up twice... It's not the first or the last time I have seen you doing that. Burning your coupons, its a common thing from you. Keep denying the stupid shit you do, doesnt make you look smarter.

I was just talking about the event that just went by, taking your last hit means nothing to me. It was just a reference, nice try tho.

I am not talking about your PvE/PvP team. Use your "brain".

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 14:17:02

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-19 13:34
Dude

Exactly, he did all that just to beat ME, but not everyone else as strong as me. You get my point here? He adjust the team just to beat me, that's all. Does that make him or stacking characters strong? Not really. His stacking is just a sign for his struggle to beat me, not being strong, that's the point I am trying to point out.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-19 14:30:15

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 19:17
Exactly, he did all that just to beat ME, but not everyone else as strong as me. You get my point ...

yes but the original point was that stacking onto a character will not allow you to beat someone stronger by a clear standard, in this case, that's false

I myself beat those that are stronger than me, however I am CONSISTENTLY stacked

Ajo only stacks for you (call it a strategical move, not a noob way to go out) so he can beat you, nothing more nothing less, he could be an utter cunt like me and just stick with a stacked Byakuya, however that's not Ajo, he does have partners, more than 1 at least, unlike me who doesn't even have a character past 200kBP

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 14:39:39

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-19 14:44

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-19 14:30
yes but the original point was that stacking onto a character will not allow you to beat someone s ...

What I am also trying to say is, I wont stack and stacking only will allow temporary wins, in a long run, or as August say... End Game... Stacking doesnt work, that is what I mean. Example players: Ueno, Cyra... When they utilize other characters to counter you, you have no one else to allow you to keep winning.
EX: You are in Taekondo's fight. You kick that stronger guy in the nuts... Yes, you brought him down, but using cheap tricks. But when he finds a way to counter that kick. You will be taking the beating.

author: sirnibbles time: 2015-10-19 14:50:48

calks out ajo for stacking his bya

stacks two people, including bya

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author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-19 14:54:51

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 19:39
What I am also trying to say is, I wont stack and stacking only will allow temporary wins, in a lon ...

xD that example hahaha

that made my day lol

anyways yeah countering 1 stackers are pretty damn easy

good thing they don't exist until you can see them in arena at the top or something xD

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 15:26:31

sirnibbles replied at 2015-10-19 14:50
calks out ajo for stacking his bya

stacks two people, including bya

He is offline, all the stats dropped including his Byakuya... Normally he is 790k BP, Mugetsu has 590k, rest has only 300k.

Check out my stones, hogyoku... they are all well spread out. I only put a little bit more on Bya cuz he is my main assaulter. Unlike Tasuki, he got almost no hogyoku into his main, VG and support. Empty stones slots in their equipments. +0 fortified accessories in his VG. Lvl 3-4 stones appears on those characters in some equipments. Rest all went to Byakuya 12/11 stones and spare only slightly on Mugetsu, lucky enough to have lvl 9 stones.

My shinso evo is maxed out, you dont expect anything less from my shinso. Also, he is my only kido partner, so I put all the kido stuff on him. He is my favorite character in bleach afterall. I am working on the others as well.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 17:57:37

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-19 18:37
I dont adjust, my aim is not beating him, since I know he is just a trash.
I dont know about your t ...

'if you have a brain' you can play the battle in your mind.

And it doesn't take a lot for someone to understand that the team I suggested counters yours.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 18:08:58

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 00:26
He is offline, all the stats dropped including his Byakuya... Normally he is 790k BP, Mugetsu has ...

i went to sleep and you still barking here? so one should have hogu maxed out on all their players ? you preach about strategy and you know shit about it, man you are a loser in real life i bet !!

are you illiterate? really? when i say i want 'unohana to just die', what do you make out of that? why the fuck should i have stones, hogu on her apart from kido dmg that benefits her and kisuke in pvp+pve.
oh wait, why am i even replying to a scum like you, you are the one who denied that you are takahashi and have a s.gin. to someone like you, talking sense is an absolutely no no.. and also expecting you to talk sense is another thing lol.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 18:18:30

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 17:57
'if you have a brain' you can play the battle in your mind.

And it doesn't take a lot for someone ...

if you have the brain, you should realize what other stuff relates into the battle, not just characters.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 18:21:12

sirnibbles replied at 2015-10-19 23:50
calks out ajo for stacking his bya

stacks two people, including bya

lmao, acc to him you need to have equal stones on everyone, you need hogus on everyone regardless of whether they need it or not. everyone should have highest lvl acc on them. even if you are saving up or getting one done you have to equip it on everyone .
so
taka - 472k(noza)/713k(bya)-474k(main)-591k(isshin)/720k(s.gin) is not stacking

but me 322k(noza)/633k(bya)-333k(main)-760k(mug)/276k(uno) is stacking and if i swap then
322k(noza)/788k(bya)-333k(main)-595k(mug)/276k(uno) is also heavy stacking.

acc to that dickhead, i need to have agi stones on my unohana or main, he should just take a look at the BRs i posted. i think he hasn't taken a look at the tavern yet. oh well he denied being the jerk he was before and he accepted the jerk he is now, with proof ie. had my laugh for the day.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-19 18:22:47

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 00:18
if you have the brain, you should realize what other stuff relates into the battle, not just chara ...

I do and the result is still a win for me and a loss for you.

I like how you can't even come up with a counter..

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 18:25:13

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 18:08
i went to sleep and you still barking here? so one should have hogu maxed out on all their players ...

You went to sleep doesnt mean I have to, different time zone... think... You dont have to be a loser to chat on forum during day time. But you, on the other hand, woke up just to reply to my posts, did I make your butthurt and you couldn't sleep well cuz you only slept for 5 hours.

That's what I mean by stacking wont be able to allow you to use your characters fully. That's a great example! You just treat her like trash and let her do the hp recovery after death. Way to go!

yeah you dont have to reply to me, the more reply the more of the stupidity side of you showing. Surprisingly August and you reply around the same time... I wonder why...

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 18:29:38

595459354 replied at 2015-10-19 18:22
I do and the result is still a win for me and a loss for you.

I like how you can't even come up w ...

I dont need to come up with a counter, your original formation can beat me 50/50. I didnt say you are a weak opponent. I dont expect anything less from a person who stacked 2 partners.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 18:41:20

595459354 replied at 2015-10-20 03:22
I do and the result is still a win for me and a loss for you.

I like how you can't even come up w ...

dude, you have to be a true top player to challenge him or even ask him a question. and before asking him a question have you done the following?
-balanced out stones on every partner?
-filled up hogu slots on every partner?
-upgrade to latest acc and levelled each one up?
if all even one of the 3 is a no, then am sorry you should not be asking him questions, he will feel bad.

i wonder if there is anything true to what he says and he is the one to talk about me lying.

My shinso evo is maxed out, you dont expect anything less from my shinso. Also, he is my only kido partner, so I put all the kido stuff on him. He is my favorite character in bleach afterall. I am working on the others as well.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 18:50:13

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 03:25
You went to sleep doesnt mean I have to, different time zone... think... You dont have to be a los ...

man, you really have a frustrating and depressing life don't you? and you thought it could be better if you play the game. its ok, we are there for you, everything can be cured, you just need real friends. i will be there for you, your mental issues will get over soon, trust me.

-btw i sleep for 5hrs only, if you dont like that i will sleep for 6-7 hrs
-i woke up an hr ago and was working, got done with work hence just came for some entertainment. dont go depressed thinking i woke up just to reply to you.
-no i and august are not the same. i know you have been cheated all the time in life, but trust me i am telling the truth and only the truth.

now did that make you feel better, i hope it did, anything can be cured, even stupidity, we are all there with you buddy. dont forget ur meds, everything will be fine.

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-19 19:18:48

So much salt.

The answer is 1 or 2 sets. You can stack, which is absolutely fine and generally a winning strategy with the right partner. Even in situations when you don't stack, using more then two sets is probably incorrect.

Take for example any team with Senbonzakura. Senbonzakura boosts speed, and to take advantage of that, you need 2 agil sets. Your first person skills, buffs team, and now your 2nd set character has +25% speed and will likely skill next. If you full stack on a Senbonzakura team, you are doing it wrong and might as well be using Zangetsu. The only way single stacking on Senbon would work is with a extremely defensive Assaulter ( someone like WIchigo ) who gets Senbon Def Buff, 10% def mod, and -15% damage to anything that survives.

Spreading out your agil stones more then that is not a winning strategy at endgame. Most of those partners wont survive the first attack anyway, and your VG is slow as all hell even if you stack him.

Damage stones on the other hand *usually* should never be stacked. Getting a extra 12% STR/Wisdom is *usually* not worth the 30% you lost on your other partners by stacking.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 23:23:18

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 18:41
dude, you have to be a true top player to challenge him or even ask him a question. and before ask ...

I was trolling, you can troll and I cant? wow. nice.

I am not saying balance out stones on all partners, I do believe that some partners has more stones than the other. But in your case, I am not sure if you can call yourself doing it properly... I just need to give 1 example...

Really? You removed your VG's stamina accessory to your Mugetsu/Byakuya? Wow, do you still call yourself properly stacked? You dont want your VG to survive?

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 23:25:25

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 18:50
man, you really have a frustrating and depressing life don't you? and you thought it could be bett ...

Oh so you woke up an hour ago, so your sleeping time was only 4 hours then, does this bother you this much and you lose sleep? aww poor baby, you need lullaby to keep you asleep then. I feel sorry for you trying to act cool and write my life story. I am sure you didnt cheat when you denied using coupons in protect sereitei lol! Your stupidity needs to be cured, not mine.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 23:31:10

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-19 19:18
So much salt.

The answer is 1 or 2 sets. You can stack, which is absolutely fine and generally a wi ...

I did not say all partners should have the same level of stones, I know some will be higher than the other, to make some important characters go first. I totally get that. I am not asking anyone to spread out the agi stones, I am just saying if your funding allows, try to keep every partner, maybe not your VG, have some agi stones, because sometimes, your opponent will be faster than your partner even with zanpakuto boost. Also, for our little friend ajoalex here, he stacks 70% of STR stones in his Byakuya lvl 11-12 and left the others with level 6-9 stones. Too bad he doesnt know, you need to teach him a thing or two.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-19 23:34:10

Here's a little something for you too... since you like to play it that way.

Ran out of chances? or simply dont want to embarrass yourself so I cant use it against you?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-19 23:45:30

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 08:34
Here's a little something for you too... since you like to play it that way.

hahahaha, I knew you would make a fool out of yourself, so i lowered my mugetsu's speed so ur isshin would go first, check BR and you will get to know. And i was just waiting for you to take a screenshot and post it here. thanks for the laugh, you are so predictable and hurt. In this way i got to do my tasks also unlike a certain person simply clicking out of boredom.

reg the vg, my vg anyways survives, i dt need that extra stam on him for now, i want my assaulters to survive. cos against cyra n august my noza is the last one to die. get it? and against you its a chance, i still have time to work on it, still aching between ur legs?

nopes, i sleep at afternoon also, i will send you my daily time schedule if you are so feeling bad about it. wanna know when i poop? maybe you could plan your stuff accordingly

PS, cheat, coupons denied? wtf are you talking man? i havent used coupons since i became faster than you, i anyways get to beat you and your gate within 15 min. you really need to see a doctor.

And, best part of this thread was you showing screenshots that you slaved me and i couldnt beat you which was the obvious . And not to even mention the stuff i showed busting your crap myths Mr True Top Player. I know how much butthurt you are as you cant brag about all the shit like you used to before, sorry about that, i just got sick of you, no hard feelings.

Thanks for the entertainment. Tomorrow, lets see, I will try to start on another topic if possible. Oh yes, and don't attack me when i go and poop ok, be a True Top Player now

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-20 00:03:03

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-20 00:05

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-19 23:45
hahahaha, I knew you would make a fool out of yourself, so i lowered my mugetsu's speed so ur issh ...

Keep typing up stories. Like some other trolls say, "Cool story, tell it again." or something like that. Keep telling them, you need your words to convince other people that you are cool and good. I am done. You can keep attacking me while I sleep/eat/poop/pee/shower, whatsoever. Sure... you slow down your mugetsu... sure...

Don't start a topic with true top player, you aren't good enough for it.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 00:09:17

2set of agi vs 4 sets agi stones, more of the good stuff. all that gold deEmEn topped up looks like shit now, i am sure he must be feeling the same. dude, just enjoy the game, else once i come with higher gear, you will be squished like a bug. till then enjoy the arena wins

and thanks for the coupons from gw, you are so kind. i would advice you to balance your team ok !!

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 00:10:55

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 09:03
Keep typing up stories. Like some other trolls say, "Cool story, tell it again." or something like ...

Don't start a topic with true top player, you aren't good enough for it.

oops i just did, are you going to shoot me for this?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 00:12:25

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 09:03
Keep typing up stories. Like some other trolls say, "Cool story, tell it again." or something like ...

Thanks , have a goodnight. wake up in the morning to resist being a slave for 10 times before i finally let you go, oh and i am laughing at that time too

. pls dont leave the game nor the server, its so boring without you.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-20 00:17:28

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-20 00:10
oops i just did, are you going to shoot me for this?

no, just want you to know your place, like you should in our server.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-20 00:19:02

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-20 00:12
Thanks , have a goodnight. wake up in the morning to resist being a slave for 10 times before i f ...

sure... are you gonna adjust more just to beat me? I love seeing your struggle. You are the entertainment, not me. lol!

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 00:23:47

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 09:19
sure... are you gonna adjust more just to beat me? I love seeing your struggle. You are the entert ...

you still here, i thought you were done. ah you are not a true top player, you are the true top troll player

.

my place in the server as of now is #2, i see it daily, dunno why i would forget that.

btw are you still going to be here or go like you said before? are you not sleeping cos of me? what is the problem, share it, your disease can be cured, i am sure 100%.

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-20 04:43:59

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-20 00:29
I dont need to come up with a counter, your original formation can beat me 50/50. I didnt say you ...

I don't see how my win ratio would be 50% since SWP aizen controls your VG+AS and fury restrict shinso. Shinso will also be silenced by Mugetsu + the aoe damage of those 2 is already devastating.
At this point none of your characters can do anything besides Gin doing an auto attack on TSI and your Noza hitting himself in confussion. Even if you were to magically Kill block me, once Retsu unuhona kenpachi skills (on her own, since I'd calculate my team's health), she' won't die.

--> The win ratio is 100%

your team: Shinso gin - CSB byakuya/Main/ishiin - Noza
My team: Swp Aizen: Retsu Unuhona kenpachi - Main/Mugetsu - TSI

Don't get me wrong, I don't say stacking is fun.. it's just the way to play/win the game Pvp-wise

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-20 04:44:43

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-20 00:41
dude, you have to be a true top player to challenge him or even ask him a question. and before ask ...

Lol, alex plz don't bring me down on Hazasalami's lvl :s

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 07:03:29

595459354 replied at 2015-10-20 13:44
Lol, alex plz don't bring me down on Hazasalami's lvl :s

haha, my bad

. though defeating deEmEn is easier lol. ur mugetsu should finish all but vg (maybe vg too) off very easily as it goes first. my bya itself wipes his assaulter lane to 10% or less. i dont even get to see his shinso if his vg doesnt give aid rate. i think the 50-50 he meant was for me and not you.

let it be, he beat someone weaker to him and is happy about it.

when will they bring out cross server/region friendly bout, i wanna fight you

, (once my mug evolves).
TSI and u already have mug+rets :O , bond(age) gone right ;)

author: 595459354 time: 2015-10-20 09:32:22

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-20 13:03
haha, my bad . though defeating deEmEn is easier lol. ur mugetsu should finish all but vg (m ...

Lol nono I don't got any of the partners I listed xD

Just made a team to show that a 2agilityset would woop his ass :p But yeah I wouldn't mind cross server/region friendly or w/e. Going for a Noza-C.Orihime-Hyourinmaru combo atm

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 09:38:47

595459354 replied at 2015-10-20 18:32
Lol nono I don't got any of the partners I listed xD

Just made a team to show that a 2agilityset ...

lol ok nice nice

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 23:03:34

oh completely forgot abt this thread.

ok so update for today
deEmEn said he doesn't adjust. yest i told him the reason why he was losing to me(speed of my mug > his isshin)
and today he took agi from his shi.gin and gave to isshin. this is after he was just losing to me in arena.

deEmEn busted again for the nth time!! ok i think am done with this, nothing more for me to prove.

Hope you all had a good laugh

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-20 23:30:28

whats wrong with stacking? Sounds like a bunch of made up beliefs

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-20 23:46:17

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-21 08:30
whats wrong with stacking? Sounds like a bunch of made up beliefs

not sure why ppl find stacking very offensive . i find stacking as a strategy esp if you are doing it right and not just putting everything on one partner.

i think the gaming bible has some commandments which say not to stack and religious ppl blindly follow it

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-21 00:14:31

lol, I simply switch my hogu from my shin gin to isshin. I dont need you to tell me how you beat me, I can see it from my battle screen which 90% of the time I ignored or skipped. But switching hogu actually make my team more balance, which is following my true top player principles. Did I beat you with it? yeah, I can. You just disproved yourself that stacking simply doesnt work.

BWG, nothing wrong with stacking, it's a strategy for those who struggle to be at the top and dump everything into 1 or 2 character hoping to beat the top players. It's really nothing wrong with it. Like the description that I used when I talked to Zento.

I left this thread alone for a while and let August and Tasuki jerking each other off, so I dont have to waste my time. On the other hand, Tasuki kept you guys "updating" and desperately making himself look good from talking down on me. Anyways, I am not going to further respond to retards, it's simply waste of my time.

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-21 00:24:49

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-21 09:14
lol, I simply switch my hogu from my shin gin to isshin. I dont need you to tell me how you beat me, ...

you dont have a brain hence you can never be a true top player.

i proved ur statement wrong many times. thats all i wanted to do and not to continously beat you. you are the stronger one, its obv that you would win. but i defeated you many times being a "Stacker".

i being a "Stacker" beat you, cyra, ueno, august in csb. what more proof you want?luckily for me, its not about being #1 and bragging about it like it is for you.

i dont want to look good or be cool here, i just wanted to prove you wrong and i did. i got my cookies.

and i dunno what you were talking about august, i thought he was inactive for more than a month. u seriously have some mental problem. first u think my acc is pilotted , then you think i am august, then you think someone else is august, then you think you are not takahashi, then you think you are takahashi and the best part is you think you are a true top player. sorry man, you dont satisfy the requirement which needs to have a brain.

author: mctroepen1 time: 2015-10-21 14:25:54

It seems like a lot of people dont understand the meaning behind what Deemen is saying.
Is not the same having a full team with lvl 10 stones, than having a team with 1 char with full lvl 12 stones while the rest is with empty slots, stones lvl 5/6/7 maybe a couple 8 or 9. Accesories lvl 0 or lvl 10 while your stacked char has accesories lvl 80, same with hogyoku stones, some chars not having even a significant hogyoku stone while your stacked one is having a lvl 25 or 30 hogyoku ultimate speed/atk, and your whole strenght relies on a 1 hit kill char.

I kinda quit the server since theres no way i can compete with this people that tops up thousands monthly and i was a free player but i still enjoy the game so from time to time i login and play it, and ive seen both of this chars and i happened to see the argument inserver between both of them and saw what deemen was talking about. This tasuki guy had like 750k bp on his haku byakuya while the rest of his team was at around 300k only, so i got curios and saw his team, and as said, his whole team was weak, if he didnt 1 shot the entire team of his opponent in his first round (like in gw where you dont get an HP buff, and only speed stat is the one that will make you win over someone stronger) he was bound to lose.

Well anyways doing a simple math on the chars he has, the stones, hogus, etc etc, i can say that tasuki has spent at least twice what takahashi ku has, and everytime i login i see that takahashi is in first place in arena, and is better ranked than tasuki in cbs. So as someone stated before you can top up 5000 dollars and still be beaten down by someone that top ups 1000 dollars but is clever enough to use them in a correct way.

So if you think stacking the best way, wait till you cant 1 shot their team anymore and you have a weak team, for example even if you can 1 shot, if they proc aid you wont kill them, and if they got a disabler that survives and the fury to release you will prolly lose.

Plus this is the internet and you prolly wont be this arrogant if you were face to face, you just act high and mighty because you are behind a monitor.

author: NNatsu time: 2015-10-21 17:18:09

I have agility stones on every character except my vanguard, am I Bleach Online-ing wrong?

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-21 17:20:07

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-21 05:14
lol, I simply switch my hogu from my shin gin to isshin. I dont need you to tell me how you beat me, ...

oh shit i got referenced <#

Just so im not on some Dragoon/Kosmo lvl shit, I only did it because of newb decision xD

leave my name be now <3

actually don't it's sexy af when you say it, continue please <3333

author: NNatsu time: 2015-10-21 17:34:02

I stack and I'm proud.

#StackPride

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-21 17:50:52

NNatsu replied at 2015-10-21 22:34
I stack and I'm proud.

#StackPride

who on tho

that's where you start not to be so proud anymore

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