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author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 13:59:44     Title: Guild War bug or......?

Edited by ThrowerSaS at 2014-9-16 13:08

hey everyone,
I was wondering if this is a bug or not.
There is someone who I could always beat with no chance to fail in palace, arena, slaves and everywhere else, but in the guild war he won because he attack first even that I have 3.5k more speed than him. Do not tell me he change his gear because I already check it before 5 sec from losing and after 5 sec. so no way he changed it. Anyone know the reason if there are some secret about guild war or its just bug!? its happen 4-5 times for him and about twice for another player I am faster than him by 800 speed.

sorry for my bad English and please give a real answer not imagination one ;)
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 14:15:41

There are several reasons for this.

1) His guild could have a lot of levels into the guild wars guild buff, which increases your attack via % wise.
2) He could also be getting the solo buff via gold that increases stats for that guild wars.


Combined with both, yes it's more than possible that's why he's beating you.
Also apparently there is a bug if you are within 1000 speed of one another, that sometimes the one with lesser speed can go first. It's a bug in the CN version to.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 14:24:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 19:15
There are several reasons for this.

1) His guild could have a lot of levels into the guild wars gu ...

it's probably the bug, I think the buff only gives boost's to health and damage or at least that's what it says it does
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:30:52

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 13:15
There are several reasons for this.

1) His guild could have a lot of levels into the guild wars gu ...

if he 1 hit me I would say you are right its guild buff or moral but its speed problem and its not 1000 speed different. we are talking about 3500 different speed so its not 1000 different. The main problem he is faster even though I have 3500 more speed than him. and I think nor moral or guild buff give speed unless I am wrong in this point i think something wired is here -_-
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:35:06

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 13:24
it's probably the bug, I think the buff only gives boost's to health and damage or at least that's ...

You are right so I dont think its could effect the different between my speed and his.
author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-9-16 14:35:15

Just to clarify, you checked his reiatsu stats not the normal, right? Also sometimes some stats might not display properly with a zanpakuto's buffs; I was just vaguely remembered something, so don't take that second part too seriously.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:37:47

yep all I am talking about are the reiatsu  stats. and its his main so its must be with the zanpakuto's buffs
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:40:19

Kazeshini
author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-9-16 14:40:34

Edited by MisterMusashi at 2014-9-16 13:45

Which zanpakuto are you two using?
Edit: What levels are each of them? Original, Shikai, Bankai, or Hogyoku-kai?
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:45:08

Edited by ThrowerSaS at 2014-9-16 13:46
MisterMusashi replied at 2014-9-16 13:40
Which zanpakuto are you two using?

idk how my answer came before you question but nvm

both of us using Kazeshini
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:46:17

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-9-16 13:40
Which zanpakuto are you two using?
Edit: What levels are each of them? Original, Shikai, Bankai, or  ...

Both Bankai
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:49:10

basically my speed 41.5k and his speed is 38.5k. he have 37  reiatsu I had 34 but with better accessory and the one I am talking about is Tosen so better accessory mean alot.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:50:51

The only reason for this I think is the guild war buff give speed with attack power and health.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 14:56:53

hmm so no more ideas
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 15:33:08

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 13:56
hmm so no more ideas

Does he have Byakuya, he lowers enemy speed.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 15:35:52

nope he have main with 10th skill momo, Orihime, Komamarua and renji, and no one from them is even close to 30k with Ruaitsu. His  main is the highest with 38.6k speed
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 16:21:13

http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... &aid=58&t=1

this fight is now in protect event. forget about the double hp just watch who attack first
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 16:28:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 14:33
Does he have Byakuya, he lowers enemy speed.

the battel above is the same for arena and palace but inguild war he start attacking first
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 16:40:20

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 15:21
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightreport/?rid=563808922521610598&aid=58&t=1

this fight is now in prote ...

I don't know man, how he beats you in GW, seems rather weak to me.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 16:47:24

Edited by ThrowerSaS at 2014-9-16 15:48
[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 15:40
I don't know man, how he beats you in GW, seems rather weak to me.

327k BP is the high in our server so dont except something op.. But still Idk how he is faster, and its look like no one know the answer hmmm
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 17:05:29

should be because of reaitsu+zanpakuto bonus. pvp stats are not the same as normal stats. u can see the differences in alliance blood battle
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 17:06:07

Edited by ThrowerSaS at 2014-9-16 16:07
[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 16:05
should be because of reaitsu+zanpakuto bonus. pvp stats are not the same as normal stats. u can see  ...

if you see reply number 7  you will know that I am talking about reaitsu + zanpakuto bonus + they work in guild war and in arena so why I always attack first in arena but not in guild war
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 17:07:32

btw inSec
for some  reason I cant see your reply so if you can do it again will be great
author: inSec    time: 2014-9-16 17:13:58

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 17:07
btw inSec
for some  reason I cant see your reply so if you can do it again will be great

ah because at first i thought you were the other guy and not the one with tosen, so my comment didn't really make sense after i figured out you were the person with tosen and the other guy is attacking first in gw but not anywhere else and that is weird. i'm wondering maybe for GW the talent/passive for partners are bugged and not working, because tosen has a agi talent.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 17:23:24

inSec replied at 2014-9-16 16:13
ah because at first i thought you were the other guy and not the one with tosen, so my comment didn ...

aha. and maybe you are right since there are no secrets then its must be bug in partner talent or guild buff because my guild buff lvl for guild war its 1 maybe they have high guild buff lv and its somehow bugged and give speed idk .
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 17:26:39

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 15:40
I don't know man, how he beats you in GW, seems rather weak to me.

everythingswrong@live. is it possible to ask the support to check this if there is any bug or not .
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 18:31:33

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 16:26
everythingswrong@live. is it possible to ask the support to check this if there is any bug or not  ...

I'd suggest tossing them an e-mail with battle log links and screenshots of Agil compairisons. [email protected]
author: marold    time: 2014-9-16 18:50:40

Edited by marold at 2014-9-16 17:51
ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 13:30
if he 1 hit me I would say you are right its guild buff or moral but its speed problem and its not ...

Personal guild buff give u bonus speed. But they're not awesome. For example a 13 lv speed bonus guid will give u 450 speed bonus. And 450 speed bonus X Zanpakuto bonus X spirit stone bonus  seems to be dificult for me to gain 3.5k speed bonus at the end.

The speed bug exist. I see it in a arena fight. My opponent was slower than me... First round no problem, second round, he act before me.... That was a problem with his 10th skill...
But that don't occur all fight. I see it one time cause i loose a fight that i should be able to win and check report...
I fight again those player and check the battle... and that problem disappear without any change in my own equipment/Hogu/gear/soul buff/and Hogyoku gems.

And after all other bonus are use in arena. So their's should be no difference in u're result between, arena fight and GW fight (except for personal guild bonus as said before).

But here there's a big problem as u said. Cause it's seem that only Tosen gain benefit of that bug.... And always in GW. It's not a random bug and it's a bigger problem.

Did his talent (+15% agility )bonus was double? Good question.

author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 18:59:48

marold replied at 2014-9-16 17:50
Personal guild buff give u bonus speed. But they're not awesome. For example a 13 lv speed bonus gu ...

the question was about guild buff for war only, if you talking about camp buff my guild lv is 13 and his guild lv is 11. and tosen is mine not his and the fight you saw was in protect event since gw was finished I did not have a chance to put the link. Please read every thing
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 19:16:55

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 17:31
I'd suggest tossing them an e-mail with battle log links and screenshots of Agil compairisons. sup ...

guild war finished long time ago so I wont have the battle now, after tomorrow guild war I will send the links and thanks
author: tommymac009    time: 2014-9-16 19:21:41

yeah something like that happened to me once. I was confused but found out that his guild were upgrading there's guild war assets to high.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 19:24:38

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-16 18:21
yeah something like that happened to me once. I was confused but found out that his guild were upgra ...

Well guild wars guild leveling adds Attack Power, which would cause him to hit a lot harder. Think the issue is he's attacking first with 3k lower speed or something.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 19:33:28

yep but there were talking about guild camp lvl which can increase speed but not that much and even if we say so its show how much increase when I check his state+ my guild camp lvl 13 and his guild 11 so for sure this is not the issues
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 19:37:43

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 18:33
yep but there were talking about guild camp lvl which can increase speed but not that much and even  ...

No not guild camp level, you can level up stats for guild wars through guild menu as well, same with Protect Seireitei. But Guild Wars is like Attack Power and Defense Power, Seireitei is for HP % bonus.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 19:46:11

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-16 18:37
No not guild camp level, you can level up stats for guild wars through guild menu as well, same wit ...

s=yep I know. ok out of the topic question. Flame Blade set ( from ultimate weapon event) is they worth buying them since they cost about 7-8 k gold!?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-16 19:46:32

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 18:46
s=yep I know. ok out of the topic question. Flame Blade set ( from ultimate weapon event) is they  ...

Yes, it'll do you fine till almost "endgame" when it's all +20 spirit infused.
author: ThrowerSaS    time: 2014-9-16 19:48:46

lets say Flame set maxed 20+ vs  spirit forging gear 100 or 110. with all spirit infused 20. which one better ?
author: marold    time: 2014-9-17 19:08:51

ThrowerSaS replied at 2014-9-16 17:59
the question was about guild buff for war only, if you talking about camp buff my guild lv is 13 a ...

Made the same mistake as Insec.

And yes for the guild buff, it's the camp buff but if u're guild lvl is 13 and his guild lvl 11 (and expect both of u upgrade bonus at max). It's not possible for him to gain a bonus speed better than u...or he should have a very very hight reiatsu lvl and agility spirit stone very powerfull.
author: Tyrann    time: 2014-9-20 13:01:24

Edited by Tyrann at 2014-9-21 19:12

accesory are not work in gw....,pick one hp accesory out from one character you will see it will have 0 effect

hf from eu s2^^ chaos

pls fix that




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