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author: dionysvs time: 2015-10-22 19:44:22 Title: End game shinso gin

i watched a couple of pages of battle reports from that other thread
it seems that people rarely use shinso gin, one person who did used him as a fury buffer
are his stuns not reliable most of the times? or some other reason people stop using him?

thanks

author: TanakaAiri time: 2015-10-22 19:48:26

Depends on how you view him, he's a powerhouse that skills every single turn and probably has 1 of the highest survivability amongst the other supports. His stun rate is suckish yes but he offers so much more than just that, not to mention he's one of the faster partners of the game.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-22 20:04:20

shinso is awesome, i use him

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-22 21:19:14

he is awesome

I love him

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-22 21:20:09

shinso is love, once u hit 7th mod i dont think there is any partner even close to his speed

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-22 21:22:08

shinso at lv120 with lv8 hugo and lv20 hogy with +40 lv120 access and evo 11 with lv12 agi SS sit very nice at 450k speed

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-22 21:27:39

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-22 21:20
shinso is love, once u hit 7th mod i dont think there is any partner even close to his speed

His speed? There are plenty faster then him after 7th mod. That isn't including Yama's assaulter version.

However, Shinso 7th mod buffing a High Growth support? Scary fast.

If BRenji didn't exist, 3-1-1 would be extremely viable.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-22 21:58:41

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-22 22:08

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-22 21:22
shinso at lv120 with lv8 hugo and lv20 hogy with +40 lv120 access and evo 11 with lv12 agi SS sit ve ...

yeah with level 12 agis LOL
Here... This will encourage you getting shinso gin...

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-22 22:04:23

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-22 21:27
His speed? There are plenty faster then him after 7th mod. That isn't including Yama's assaulter v ...

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-22 22:44:58

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-22 22:04
?

His 7th mod is a aura that provides 10% speed to all kido users, including himself. He would have 32% speed in total, making him rather fast, but he still only has a 3.8 growth rate.

His endgame use is pretty much the same as Yammamoto's. A walking Speed Aura for other high growth rate kido characters.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-22 22:55:03

Aristeaus replied at 2015-10-22 22:44
His 7th mod is a aura that provides 10% speed to all kido users, including himself. He would have ...

shinso has 2 speed mods and yes 7th mod is completely broken for the lategame imo

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-22 23:04:52

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-22 22:55
shinso has 2 speed mods and yes 7th mod is completely broken for the lategame imo

Oh I completely agree. Shinso has always been valued highly, but its one of the reasons I put Yamamoto much higher on the list then most people. +10% more speed is huge, and their value never really goes down as most event characters are released. Bankai Rukia's release made Shinso better, for example.

But speeds effectiveness is dependant on mostly agility. Take CSB Byakuya for example. He has a speed mod and bond ( same as Shinso ). Even with what amounts to 10% more speed then most characters, he isn't fast enough to overtake someone like Mugetsu, WIchigo, or Bankai Rukia due to their growth rates.

Pairing Yamamoto or Shinso with Bruk or Mugetsu or something is about as sexy as it gets. Good luck outspeeding them.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-23 00:33:46

Edited by [email protected] at 2015-10-22 23:35

here mine lol converted from from mugu

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-23 00:57:55

He's great but once you get to the point where you have 2 T1's he becomes less necessary. Even for PVE there are better partners out

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 01:01:39

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-23 00:33
here mine lol converted from from mugu

need to get more lvl 12 stones to be like this lol.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-23 01:03:56

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-23 00:33
here mine lol converted from from mugu

nice i could get mine to 461k with lvl 100 gear xD but spread things around a little a solid 400k is enough to maintain 1st for me, but nice damage u got there :3

author: llKhiz time: 2015-10-23 01:04:17

Mine is basically decoration. Using senbon makes him kind of pointless. He basically just makes my VG T1 lol. I'll eventually have CSB Aizen and I might use him instead at that point and just give up on making my VG T1.

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-23 01:05:53

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-22 18:58
yeah with level 12 agis LOL
Here... This will encourage you getting shinso gin...

eh?

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 01:54:47

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-23 01:03
nice i could get mine to 461k with lvl 100 gear xD but spread things around a little a solid 400k ...

yeah me too, I like to spread my agi stones.

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:00:06

Edited by DeEmEn at 2015-10-23 02:04

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-23 01:05
eh?

god damn... yours is FAST. Sorry about the slave release message.

Well, I only use mine in ES and Ryoka, so speed doesnt matter

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-23 02:00:09

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-23 01:54
yeah me too, I like to spread my agi stones.

Yeah but if someone happens to get ahead of me then i'd definitely move them to one or two partners so i can beat them xD

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:01:45

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-23 02:00
Yeah but if someone happens to get ahead of me then i'd definitely move them to one or two partner ...

I careless as long as I do good in Ryoka and ES, the two events that matter most

But if you combine them into 2 characters, you cant separate the stones after.

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-23 02:03:16

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-23 02:01
I careless as long as I do good in Ryoka and ES, the two events that matter most

But if you co ...

yeah tbh my goal is just to have about 15k challenge stones JUST INCASE they happen to bring out new partners in csb.. after that i might focus on pve, we shall see!
edit: 10k stones*

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:05:22

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-23 02:03
yeah tbh my goal is just to have about 15k challenge stones JUST INCASE they happen to bring out n ...

Do you know if China server has a new CSB partner yet?

author: BurakCinar time: 2015-10-23 02:07:13

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-23 02:05
Do you know if China server has a new CSB partner yet?

i highly doubt they do, but they do have the second phase of conquest of might which is highly beneficial for ur main character, hopefully we get it soon aswell

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:11:32

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-23 02:07
i highly doubt they do, but they do have the second phase of conquest of might which is highly ben ...

yeah, right now seeing how people just dump their main on the side because of his limited power, sad to see...

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-23 02:11:35

DeEmEn replied at 2015-10-22 23:00
god damn... yours is FAST. Sorry about the slave release message.

Nice, I just popped in and was checking out Dragoons Mug. Son of a bitch is like 2500 from 500k with tensa HAHA

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:12:33

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-23 02:11
Nice, I just popped in and was checking out Dragoons Mug. Son of a bitch is like 2500 from 500k wi ...

Do you think Shinso will be faster after mod 7?

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-23 02:29:27

If I was going for fastest I would do CSB Aizen. Don't know about Gin

author: DeEmEn time: 2015-10-23 02:31:46

bankai rukia is faster no?

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-23 02:32:05

nah cbs azien isnt as fast as gin, i can easy swap it over lol.. cbs drop to 390k or so

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-23 05:08:48

BurakCinar replied at 2015-10-22 21:20
shinso is love, once u hit 7th mod i dont think there is any partner even close to his speed

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author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-23 05:11:20

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-23 00:33
here mine lol converted from from mugu

SHOW ME YOUR MU

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-23 05:23:26

Edited by Aristeaus at 2015-10-23 05:25

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-23 02:32
nah cbs azien isnt as fast as gin, i can easy swap it over lol.. cbs drop to 390k or so

You shouldn't blatantly lie to people. It makes you look like a fool.

Your Shinso is only 2 star. It does not have either speed mod yet. Both CSB Aizen and Shinso have speed bonds of 12%. Aizen has a higher growth rate(By a large amount, mind you) and a higher base agi.

So even if Aizen doesn't have his speed mod, he is faster. If your dropping 40k speed on CSB Aizen, you are doing something horribly wrong.
Also, it looks like your image is photoshopped. 431k with a no-speed modded Shinso while using Senbonzakura? Yeah ok.

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