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author: meekrat time: 2015-10-24 11:59:20 Title: CSB Aizen / Speed question

Relatively speaking, how fast is CSB Aizen compared to other high end, fast supporters?  I know he is fast, I'm just trying to gauge how fast he is compared to others.

I'll have CSB Aizen by the end of the year and I'm considering some different strategies and I like to begin preparing months in advanced.  I would likely be putting all level 10-12 AGI stones on him, along with maxed fortified AGI accessories and focusing on rapid evolution.  So my question is, on a speed perspective how is he going to stack up against other fast supporters such as Shinso Gin, SWP Aizen etc.  Lets say hypathetically I put identifical gear/stones/treasure's etc., on all the faster supports, where would CSB Aizen come out in the ranking (approximately)?

Any insight for those who own him and/or similar partners who have faced off against him would be greatly appreciated.  Any big downsides to CSB Aizen that anyone might know I would appreciate as well.  Thanks!!

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author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-24 12:19:28

csb aizen
agi 4.5
speed mod 10%
speed bond 12%
evo speed 7k

looks neat. he has very good amount of bonus from evo for deducting fury[17%] and controlling opponents[19%], add the spirit forged lvl 120 or lvl 120 ulti acc and you get 28-35% more to that. you will have to get those % higher if you are going with csb aizen. he has good defense too from mods.

swp ultima aizen has 12% speed mod, and speed bond too. dunno his agi rate tho. but form 1 aizen himself has 12k speed, so ultima should have a bit more i guess. his agi rate could make the difference in who is faster. dt have him yet so not sure about it.

which zanpakuto are you using?

author: ajoalex time: 2015-10-24 12:25:04

#UBPprohet, haha i remember that

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-24 12:53:58

soul 5/5 upto gin
hogy yellow 20
lv8 +10 agi treasure
lv12 SS
lv11 full evo
zap - sabon
restu- 98
lv100 access +40
get you the following.... so he was end game but now only mid class... i dont have swp ultima but i doubt it any faster... shinso is still perfer for support just he cost abit.. otherwise f2p.. ultima aziens is perfer
otherwise if u counter players with full evo 11.. u wont get that lucky stunning and fury reducing them sadly... that why i went to mugu ")

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-24 13:19:03

Kosmo once told me CSB aizen is more faster than B. Rukia if you get all his mods. I trust his opinion on this one.

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-24 16:44:08

ajoalex replied at 2015-10-24 12:19
csb aizen
agi 4.5
speed mod 10%

4 AGI RATE BUT GETS 11K SPEED FROM EVO

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-24 16:45:11

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-24 13:19
Kosmo once told me CSB aizen is more faster than B. Rukia if you get all his mods. I trust his opini ...

#WELLIDEPENDSIFRUKIAHASSPEEDBONDORNO

author: polarisx7 time: 2015-10-24 17:46:33

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author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-24 17:56:40

You forgot bonds.

Essentially the way it works is Agility is the most important stat if you have a speed mod/bond.

CSB Aizen is probably the fastest supporter in the game. I highly doubt the extra 5% Speed Ultima Aizen gets outweighs the .6 Agi growth CSB has on him ( IF it did, WIchigo would be the fastest assaulter... etc etc ). However, the extra 14% speed CSB Aizen gets over BRukia is probably enough to overcome .7 agi growth, assuming you have enough agility.

author: polarisx7 time: 2015-10-24 17:58:29

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author: meekrat time: 2015-10-25 14:13:33

Thank you EVERYONE, this info is exactly the kind of info I was looking for when I made this post.

@ajoalex
I use Hyorinmaru (so 18% Support speed), its not quite as good as Muramasa, but its a good balance for my VG/and 3-1-1 setup, plus I'm not a huge spender so I was able to pickup this zanpakuto for like $30, better zanpakuto's are considerably more expensive unless in UBP etc.

@anima12
Could you (or anyone) post a screenshot of the final evolution stats of CSB Aizen, SWP Aizen as well if anyone has it (either or both versions).

Bond is a good point to bring up, unfortunately I did not have the vitality saved up for UBP this go, so no Yamamoto, and I doubt we'll see him in UBP again (probably ever), and I wouldn't buy him unless he was like >$30 just for bond purposes, so I will miss out on that 12% speed *sad face*

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 14:31:50

meekrat replied at 2015-10-25 14:13
Thank you EVERYONE, this info is exactly the kind of info I was looking for when I made this post.

...

u can rent yama for a day and still use him in bond forever

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-25 14:34:39

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 11:31
u can rent yama for a day and still use him in bond forever

This is like Kensei now the developers know and will take it away..... Bugs are best not explained here 0.o half serious half joke

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 14:38:06

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-25 14:34
This is like Kensei now the developers know and will take it away..... Bugs are best not explained ...

I dont think its a bug tho... since it doesn't go in formation.

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-25 14:42:00

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 11:38
I dont think its a bug tho... since it doesn't go in formation.

The word bug/glitch/not intended. None of it has any direct effect on me personally but I don't normally see developers leave something like not fixed for too long. Heck I can't even do 140 alliance war o.0 I'm salty about that one

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 14:44:03

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-25 14:42
The word bug/glitch/not intended. None of it has any direct effect on me personally but I don't no ...

ahh okie dokie

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 14:44:29

but srsly who is fastest?

author: bwg2469 time: 2015-10-25 14:47:19

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 11:44
but srsly who is fastest?

Ok here is another angle to look at it. Who ever tops up is. I have Isshin up to 455k without the 8% mod for pve only. Sum it up. Doesn't matter because you only need to be faster than your opponent. Now level 140 trail tower renji he's over 455k speed lol

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-25 14:47:27

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 19:44
but srsly who is fastest?

I'd personally like to say B.Rukia is faster overall (If you put both CSB Aizen and B.Rukia with the same exact stuff) since her character was literally just released to be a super fast demon, whilst CSB Aizen was just released to be a CSB supporter, and to the fact that the growth rate is just crazy on speed...

I'm pretty damn sure they designed a only fast character to actually be the fastest in the game, else there'd be no point in just having her speed be high and nothing else since other characters would fill her position easily ^^

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 15:01:12

if u just want base stat of swp azien just check in SWP

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-25 15:12:24

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-25 14:47
I'd personally like to say B.Rukia is faster overall (If you put both CSB Aizen and B.Rukia with t ...

so is CSB faster than SWP aizen? assuming they have same gear and mods and bond?

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-25 15:37:34

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 15:12
so is CSB faster than SWP aizen? assuming they have same gear and mods and bond?

tbh I dont think anyone really knows, unless someone has both characters at the same level and can strip them.

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-25 15:39:30

if anyone has a level 136 csb aizen let me know haha

author: Aristeaus time: 2015-10-25 15:43:23

BRukia > CSB > Ultima

CSB only has like 5% less speed then Ultima between mod/bonds, but has a .6 AGI higher growth rate. I thought I had explained that already? lol

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-25 15:52:22

Brahmastra replied at 2015-10-25 15:37
tbh I dont think anyone really knows, unless someone has both characters at the same level and can ...

i do though not same evo lvl

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-25 15:52:33

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-25 20:12
so is CSB faster than SWP aizen? assuming they have same gear and mods and bond?

I'd assume CSB is indeed faster

SWP partners are pretty much for free in terms of how to gain them, and their stats don't really compare so great in comparison to CSB partners, so i'd definitely like to say CSB Aizen is faster

however, I've seen more faster Ultima Aizens then there is CSB Aizens, but that's most likely because he has a better skill than CSB Aizen; they focus more on Ultima

but personally, i'd definitely say CSB Aizen is much faster

author: Brahmastra time: 2015-10-25 15:54:44

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-10-25 15:52
i do though not same evo lvl

well we can both strip down and just deduct evo speed

author: SeiryuSky time: 2015-10-25 15:57:19

Brahmastra replied at 2015-10-25 15:54
well we can both strip down and just deduct evo speed

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