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author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-28 12:13:13 Title: just your thoughts...

you can pic 3 options... numbered alike are pitted against each other
Zan is Hyroinmaru
pvp team is control

author: TanakaAiri time: 2015-10-28 12:42:46

Well i chose Hikifune (of course) , which then eliminates the need for both Toshi and Gin honestly, and as for Zabi Renji I've always suggested to you that u can do better than him so voted to go for CSB kenny as his replacement.

author: BlackLusterGod time: 2015-10-28 12:51:38

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author: TanakaAiri time: 2015-10-28 12:55:58

Top up 2800 gold I believe it is.

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author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-28 14:48:17

Nope, no idea what I'm reading

explain, I can't help lol

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-28 16:37:12

what was CSB Kenny's skill and stuff again?

author: moongoatie time: 2015-10-28 16:41:13

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-28 16:37
what was CSB Kenny's skill and stuff again?

350% growth, -75% break def, recover 20 fury

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-28 17:38:08

moongoatie replied at 2015-10-28 16:41
350% growth, -75% break def, recover 20 fury

Fair enough. Noticably better than renji. Worth the swap.

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-10-28 18:27:38

1) - CSB Kenny no arguments

2) - Though Tavern Gin's stun chance isn't 100%, it is indeed extremely high, enough for you to have him for 'end-game'. Also he reduces 50 fury at base, which can go higher to above 50 fury; the enemy will have to do 2 attacks to be able to do his skill if your Gin is faster. Toshiro literally does the same thing, but less fury (so once they come out of disarm, all they have to do is 1 attack). But you might be thinking, "But Toshiro has a 100% 'stun rate', shouldn't I get him for more efficiency?" well the thing is, though that is true, Disarm only works for when they do not have 100% fury stacked, and as you many know, you can start with more than 100 fury, so this may not always work. You should also take note that Combo Rate breaks through Disarm, so if one character survives without being disarmed, that character can give Combo Rate to another person that IS disarmed, and they'll still attack/possibly do their skill.

3)Tricky one aren't you lol. Well, Isshin helps both PVE/PVP, especially with CSB Kenny, so that helps, alongside his void in PVP which will shut down any assaulter no matter what, as long as he's faster. However, Hiki can be naturally faster and also boost your team's damage potential.
Both are great for PVE/PVP, so I'd say choose one or the other, all dependant on how you are/what you need, do you need another assaulter for more physical damage? Or you have better gear for physical damage people? Or do you need Hiki for more damage potential between supporters and assaulters for that 1 TURN, and have good gear for wisdom characters?

^^

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-28 19:42:30

So pve should end up CSB Kenny. Isshin. Hiki. D rukia
And PVP should be Hiki. Soph rangiku. Ultima aizen. And realistically Shini kieske. But if rather have Shinzo tbh.

author: alicantibet time: 2015-10-29 16:18:05

Why isnt Aizen an option?

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-29 16:38:41

Edited by MylarHyrule at 2015-10-29 16:43

alicantibet replied at 2015-10-29 16:18
Why isnt Aizen an option?

because he is going in, you guys can't vote him out, lol

my ideal final pvp team is looking like:
Soph Rangiku, main, Ultima Aizen, Kikifune, Shinzo Gin, and Hyorinmaru

and ideal pve should look like this:
Soph Rangiku/CSB Kenny, main, isshin, kikifune, Shinzo Gin, and Sogyo

then again, Shinzo will have to wait till isshin and soph are payed off, and there is no telling how much kiki will settle off at, and the chance more great partners will come out could throw a wrench in this... plus if I start to get csb points fast, CSB Aizen may replace someone, not sure, decisions decisions, plus that's all a long way off

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-10-30 09:23:42

no love for Zabimaru Renji here, lol

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-3 13:28:28

pvp = speed therefore Hikifune

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-3 14:30:42

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-29 16:38
because he is going in, you guys can't vote him out, lol

my ideal final pvp team is looking like: ...

Why hyroin for pvp? I'd prefer mugetsu/murumasa instead.

author: TanakaAiri time: 2015-11-3 14:47:07

He's making a VG focused build, with his supports as his back up. Hyorin is perfect for that. Makes having control in the back even more vital. So HMA Aizen / Hiki and Shinso is like the perfect setup(bit overkill but can never be too sure)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-3 14:50:10

kosmik replied at 2015-11-3 14:30
Why hyroin for pvp? I'd prefer mugetsu/murumasa instead.

mugetsu is way out of my price range, and I'm going to get either Muramasa, Zangetsu, or Senbon at a later date, not sure who or when, but I need another for my 15th, may use them, may not... no rush on that tho, as a still need sogyo and the 3 from honor shop... saving coupons is a tough one

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-4 07:51:11

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-3 14:50
mugetsu is way out of my price range, and I'm going to get either Muramasa, Zangetsu, or Senbon at ...

whoa - reasons not to reply when half asleep, meant normal ol' zangetsu or murumasa. With a backline like that, why have no support for them is really all I am pondering. Some of the best supports in game and no support! See your a collector tho, so there's always that, can go mixy matchy.

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-4 10:16:41

kosmik replied at 2015-11-4 07:51
whoa - reasons not to reply when half asleep, meant normal ol' zangetsu or murumasa. With a backl ...

hyorin helps make my supports blistering fast... this afternoon my back row will have Shinzo Gin, Tavern Gin, and Shini Kieske, with Soph Rangiku as my vanguard, who also gives them a decent regen.

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-4 19:34:45

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-4 10:16
hyorin helps make my supports blistering fast... this afternoon my back row will have Shinzo Gin, ...

^^ 9%, I guess murumasa spoils me with 21% to supps. Different strokes for different folks and all, whatever is working for ya!

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-11-4 19:38:31

kosmik replied at 2015-11-4 12:51
whoa - reasons not to reply when half asleep, meant normal ol' zangetsu or murumasa. With a backl ...

omg saw your name on the side of recent post

I clicked because of your first 3 letters of your name

still not disappointed due to your avatar

wuv u Fake Kosmo <33

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-5 09:12:52

kosmik replied at 2015-11-4 19:34
^^ 9%, I guess murumasa spoils me with 21% to supps. Different strokes for different folks and al ...

15%, plus MASSIVE boosts to my vanguard... plus with the price I paid for him... yeah

author: I_MIKE_I time: 2015-11-5 10:38:28

1) CSB Kenny, quite obvious I think.

2) I'd go for D Toshi, since you're using hyorinmaru... but it's a close one.

3) I'm lvl 78 with hikifune which one-shots everything I've faced in CSB (incl. white ichigo, shinso gin etc.) from lvl 90+, so I'm kinda biased...

author: shadarlo time: 2015-11-5 10:50:07

Edited by shadarlo at 2015-11-5 10:51

I'd personally keep Isshin but swap Gin for Hikifune. She's in a totally different league than gin and you definitely don't need both.

If you can't win with Isshin, CSB Ken, Hikifune, and a decent VG then you are likely facing a truly sick team. Though I'd probably prefer Cute / SWP Aizen / Nel to CSB Ken for PvP purposes personally. Although with strong VG's being more popular now, perhaps CSB Ken will have a new life in PvP against them to some degree.
Your Zanpak is kinda crap for having Hikifune though

Do not, for any reason, get D Toshiro. TOTAL waste of points. Save for Aizen or you'll feel really stupid later in the game.

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-5 13:19:06

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-5 09:12
15%, plus MASSIVE boosts to my vanguard... plus with the price I paid for him... yeah

price ya paid - yea, pretty much factors into everyone setup; otherwise I don't know someone who WOULDN'T run hikfune. Side note, CSB ken is such a waste of CSB time imo, I would rather take aizen 1st, byak 2nd, and still trying to think of a reason to need him over xp books ;)

author: Zento-Hazashi time: 2015-11-5 13:19:43

kosmik replied at 2015-11-5 18:19
price ya paid - yea, pretty much factors into everyone setup; otherwise I don't know someone who W ...

DAMNIT your name again <3

Wuv u fake Kosmo <33

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-5 13:22:43

kosmik replied at 2015-11-5 13:19
price ya paid - yea, pretty much factors into everyone setup; otherwise I don't know someone who W ...

who is your pve assaulters if you can skip CSB Kenny? ATM I have Isshin, Zabimaru Renji, and main

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-5 14:04:37

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-5 13:22
who is your pve assaulters if you can skip CSB Kenny? ATM I have Isshin, Zabimaru Renji, and main

PVE?  I have murumasa so atm, full formation is - CSB Aizen/Shinso/Main/Res.Uliquriora/Noza Ken.
I don't change forms for pvp/pve, I use that formation permenatly unless some $%# $#%#^^$ $@$&$ @$@^ing conq makes me put in another.
Do not underestimate Uli's burn damage, it adds up pretty damn quick.

Only time I plan on having to do a form swap is when I get csb byak and ultima here shortly.  I'll change out csb for uliq for the speed boost I guess, or drop a saulter all together and stick ultima in the sup row and run 1/1/3.  Still slightly undecided on that one, need gin for the fury building, but ultima is faster than CSB, choices choices. (supps are pure T1's, CSB aizen evo11, gin isn't even close because he's my newer guy)
I'm not really a fan of changing forms for pvp/pve, I tend to gain more much xp for my team that I use on a consistant basis, instead of having to xp scroll em.

ANOTHER SIDE NOTE -
I am not a fake Kosmo, I'm the real deal Kosmik, been around since S6!  ^^

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-5 14:10:35

kosmik replied at 2015-11-5 14:04
PVE? I have murumasa so atm, full formation is - CSB Aizen/Shinso/Main/Res.Uliquriora/Noza Ken.
I ...

if you drop to a 1-1-3, I'd put up a case for Hyroin as a zanpacto, especially with your Noza Kenny... the fact you don't nerf his attack by 40% is huge

author: kosmik time: 2015-11-5 14:32:07

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-11-5 14:10
if you drop to a 1-1-3, I'd put up a case for Hyroin as a zanpacto, especially with your Noza Kenn ...

downside to that is I would also lose buff rounds for either/both aizens, as well as losing 15% speed/18% dmg to saulters and 11% speed and 25% to supps. I'd rather 3 chars doing 25%, and main doing 18% more damage than 1 VG doing 40% more, just my thoughts (VG capping break is a pain in the arse tbh)

author: MylarHyrule time: 2015-11-27 14:23:22

I switched my vang to muramasa. I still use hyorin for some things but I find I'm stronger with a 1-2-2 with muramasa. As a bonus when I got muramasa I also picked up Sogyo from ultra hero which once I get that one to hokyku-Kai I'll have a new pve zan. Prob gonna end up with zangetsu here but not for a while still. Also. Anyone know a faster way to mod kieske. I can only get 22 things a day, trying to fully mod for full T1 as I have the stones once he gets that mod lol

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