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author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-10-30 12:43:25     Title: Proof that isshin's combo is not 100%

Edited by DrSkullcrush at 2015-10-30 12:45

http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fi ... d=54&t=1&lang=en_US
here is another
http://bleachjf.gametrees.com/fightreport/?rid=36874224122702770&aid=54&t=1&lang=en_US

author: Devvoke2    time: 2015-10-30 12:45:36

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author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 12:47:24

Ohh you're maria moriko? You're in my csb but anyway that's so weird that has NEVER happened to me :/
author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-10-30 12:49:48

i cant say i ever noticed it really happening before but i just did my camps and im like wtf why didnt i 1shot them like i normally do. btw who are you?
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 12:52:46

Tanaka Airi ...seeing as you're in my csb I'm guessing I shud be in urs too. I'm rank 2 atm, trying to get ahead of that bastard RapidMotion *shakes fist*

Anyway , maybe its a one off occasion? A bug even? Not sure
author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-10-30 13:00:57

yea you are. i just never payed much attention to the names of people i cannot even reach, or ones that i beat easily. you are in the cannot reach category as i cant get past Ballin's #godstark but good luck with rapid
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 13:07:21

Ok I'm thinking that they changed him :/ ...cause I noticed a drop in my pve dmg and I wondered why, so i turned off skip battle on ES and watched it, for like 3 str8 rounds isshin's combo didn't go off till the following turn, then then i watched another and it did activate like normal so I'm thinking they changed it back to 35% like the skill description says?
author: Malshun    time: 2015-10-30 13:38:50

Yes, it seems fixed to description now.
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-30 13:40:56

#kensei      
author: dionysvs    time: 2015-10-30 13:42:31

so does that make 8th skill better for pve dailies now?
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 13:49:30

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-30 13:40
#kensei

Lol I was just saying this is prolly to promote kensei
author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-10-30 14:14:28

Edited by DrSkullcrush at 2015-10-30 14:16

my isshin is already evo 10 im not gonna bother upgrading to ken for a small increase. but they could have atleast given us his CN stats back
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-10-30 14:17:29

So... they actually fixed him to 30%?
author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-10-30 14:21:23

yea they did. when i was doing my camps i noticed i was no longer 1shotting them. i took a peak at the detailed fights and saw that my main wasn't hitting the combos all the time anymore. Of the 12 fights i watched 8 of them failed to combo. I posted 2 of them at the start
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-30 14:25:45

dionysvs replied at 2015-10-30 18:42
so does that make 8th skill better for pve dailies now?

8th skill is just dependant on who you're combo rating into with your main, just stick with normal skills you use unless the person you're combo rating into is actually WAY stronger than your other assaulters
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-10-30 14:27:15

Ouch, thanks for sharing. Got an expired Isshin with still 7k gold, but his evo is almost maxed out. Wander if I should skip him hmm....
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 14:28:34

Lol he just got nerfed today and people already talking about replacing the poor guy.

#GoodbyeIsshin
#YouWillBeMissed
#AndIWillAlwaysLoveYou

author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-30 14:30:15

DrSkullcrush replied at 2015-10-30 14:14
my isshin is already evo 10 im not gonna bother upgrading to ken for a small increase. but they coul ...

Upgrading to which ken?
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-30 14:32:30

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-30 14:28
Lol he just got nerfed today and people already talking about replacing the poor guy.

#GoodbyeIssh ...

But who can he be replaced with?  I mean at least in the reasonable price area.  I'm thinking maybe sexy yoro to go along with shura ken now for pve.  Before, it was shura ken and isshin, but for the rich guys, it was berserk renji and isshin, but now with this nerf on isshin, who can he be replaced with i wonder?


author: LadyKyojin    time: 2015-10-30 14:32:53

Edited by LadyKyojin at 2015-10-30 19:41

F u Go games atleast gives us 100% fury regen and proper stats back
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author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 14:34:58

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-30 14:32
But who can he be replaced with?  I mean at least in the reasonable price area.  I'm thinking mayb ...

That's an interesting question, I really don't even know :/ I'm guessing if you can evo Sexy High enough she has almost the same amount of combo rate isshin would offer so could use her instead and throw in berserk renji or CSB kenny
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-10-30 14:35:39

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-30 14:32
But who can he be replaced with?  I mean at least in the reasonable price area.  I'm thinking mayb ...

Isn't B.Renji around 12k? 2k more than lease Isshin. I'm using Shura as well, I guess I gotta lease him back to see how he works
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-10-30 14:36:10

LadyKyojin replied at 2015-10-30 14:32
F u Go games atleast gives us 100% fury regen and proper stats back

I'm guessing that's the next step
author: hasoonfcb    time: 2015-10-30 14:37:20

that sucks :/ i had a t1 isshin and relied on that guess im gonna have to change things
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-30 14:42:33

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-30 14:34
That's an interesting question, I really don't even know :/ I'm guessing if you can evo Sexy High  ...

CSB Kenny most likely, but to have combo like one in 4 tries, depending on luck, is not appealing at all.
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-10-30 14:43:34

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-30 14:42
CSB Kenny most likely, but to have combo like one in 4 tries, depending on luck, is not appealing  ...

Well then I guess this is where brute power is gonna be more necessary than combo's , so doesn't that kind of make berserk renji like a must have right now? lol
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-30 14:44:04

moongoatie replied at 2015-10-30 14:35
Isn't B.Renji around 12k? 2k more than lease Isshin. I'm using Shura as well, I guess I gotta leas ...

Yeah but b. renji isn't lease, plus I found a lot more uses for isshin than b.renji.  If they nerfed isshin, they coulda nerfed his price too, drop it to half price, though I already paid half price of it by lease.  
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2015-10-30 14:45:50

i be happy with isshin original stats
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-30 15:38:39

isshins combo has been fixed to his discription of 35% combo
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 15:44:06

plus if you have isshin next to someone that already has great combo rate... like a sexy yourichi,  she WOULD still basically still combo like before...  plus if you get isshin's combo up, and give him level 110 ulti set, he could still combo quite often...  now if we could get him un nerfed he'd still be worth it!!
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-30 15:45:14

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-30 12:44
plus if you have isshin next to someone that already has great combo rate... like a sexy yourichi,   ...

Just wait . Go team kensei
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 15:45:46

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-30 15:45
Just wait . Go team kensei

what is kensei's combo rate?
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 15:47:31

Stop stop stop
What we now have to isshin happened and what will happen tomorrow, after the update?
And will update tomorrow?
And what new skill he?
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 15:50:01

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 20:47
Stop stop stop
What we now have to isshin happened and what will happen tomorrow, after the update?
...

isshin's combo rate got fixed, now is 35% instead of 100% and already happened
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 15:52:08

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 23:50
isshin's combo rate got fixed, now is 35% instead of 100% and already happened

And then what will happen to him?
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 15:53:50

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 20:52
And then what will happen to him?

dont know, i wish they make him like CN version, 250% and 100 fury or then isshin will be like 6k gold or even 4k
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 15:55:19

Um ... what will happen to those people who have paid for it already 4k or more?
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 15:55:48

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 15:53
dont know, i wish they make him like CN version, 250% and 100 fury or then isshin will be like 6k  ...

and that would be crap for those of us that already forked over the cash for him
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 15:56:27

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-30 20:55
and that would be crap for those of us that already forked over the cash for him

yeah now my t1 is fcked :S
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 16:00:16

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 15:55
Um ... what will happen to those people who have paid for it already 4k or more?

we are apparently getting screwed...
author: MikkyX    time: 2015-10-30 16:01:04

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-10-30 14:43
Well then I guess this is where brute power is gonna be more necessary than combo's , so doesn't t ...

A must have, if you got the $$$ to pay for him.  I mean gogames just screwed many of us all with this.  The least they can do is put berserk renji in next ubp.  

Though I wonder about berserk renji.  My assaulters got close to 90% crit, some have 88 others 86, 85% so I wonder how berserk gonna fit here, with the 90% cap.  I'll probably have to switch some crit stones around.


author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 16:02:28

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-30 16:01
A must have, if you got the $$$ to pay for him.  I mean gogames just screwed many of us all with t ...

supports often love to crit...
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 16:03:38

MylarHyrule replied at 2015-10-31 00:00
we are apparently getting screwed...
screwed...

what?
you're talking about limited lease?
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-10-30 16:10:44

None is gonna get compensated cause it's a fix, not a nerf. Doubt there would be even if it was a nerf. Prices lately tend to drop, some of us gained, most of us lost, shit happens ^^
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 16:10:53

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 21:03
what?
you're talking about limited lease?

if they did this to promote kensei, they are the most dumb company ever
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 16:11:33

And did not you isshin, almost like kensei?
And the calculation of the cost, I do not think it will fall much!
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-30 16:12:38

MikkyX replied at 2015-10-30 16:01
A must have, if you got the $$$ to pay for him.  I mean gogames just screwed many of us all with t ...

if you get berserks crit mods they go over the 90% cap
my brenji has 100% crit
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 16:13:19

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 21:11
And did not you isshin, almost like kensei?
And the calculation of the cost, I do not think it will  ...

kensei is 12k in turntable, and isshin 10 in limited lease, now they made them almost the same shit, isshin has more dmg but only attacks assaulter line and has 100% cc, kensei has better grow rates and attack all team dealing less dmg i belive and have a high chance to cc...
author: MylarHyrule    time: 2015-10-30 16:14:13

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 16:03
what?
you're talking about limited lease?

lots of people got him, several paid more than we would have if he was like he is now...
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 16:14:35

Edited by Miliandra at 2015-10-31 00:16

But for example!
Now isshin is 10k gold!
After fixing it will cost for example 8k
If I have to pay for it for example 7k, I will pay 1k or is it the old full price?
That is the question I would very much like to hear an answer from the representative gogames!
And I'm tired of writing them to support every time!
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 16:15:29

Edited by Dotiie at 2015-10-30 21:18
Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 21:14
But for example!
Now isshin is 10k gold!
After fixing it will cost for example 8k

THB i dont know how it will go but, i doubt they will reduce his price, cuz they have to rewrok limited lease system for those who is getting him piece by piece

if u get a answer try to ask why they made this also ;)

author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 16:22:07

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-31 00:15
THB i dont know how it will go but, i doubt they will reduce his price, cuz they have to rewrok lim ...

Well, we write in support of the explanation for this question!
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-10-30 16:25:50

30% is better than nothing, I'll keep him in my pve team still.
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 16:27:11

NNatsu replied at 2015-10-30 21:25
30% is better than nothing, I'll keep him in my pve team still.

i also will, but for 10k gold... better spend more 2k and get kensei
author: dionysvs    time: 2015-10-30 16:28:40

to be fair, we all paid for the stats as he is now, 100% combo is a bug
author: Miliandra    time: 2015-10-30 16:28:48

NNatsu replied at 2015-10-31 00:25
30% is better than nothing, I'll keep him in my pve team still.

35% combo!
and YES
i also will, but for 10k gold... better spend more 2k and get kensei


author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-30 16:28:55

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 13:27
i also will, but for 10k gold... better spend more 2k and get kensei

You said it, I didn't
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-10-30 16:30:44

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 16:27
i also will, but for 10k gold... better spend more 2k and get kensei

I agree, if I had yet to buy either I'd buy Kensei for sure. Unfortunate.
author: Dotiie    time: 2015-10-30 16:35:24

dionysvs replied at 2015-10-30 21:28
to be fair, we all paid for the stats as he is now, 100% combo is a bug

tbh i bought isshin cuz i knew about bug, if were 35% before, i would had keep my money
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-10-30 16:39:18

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 16:35
tbh i bought isshin cuz i knew about bug, if were 35% before, i would had keep my money

Not for me, I was bad back in the day, so even with only a CHANCE at combo'ing, making assaulters useless was pretty attractive to me. Obviously now if I had the choice I'd have spent the 10k gold on something else, but what can you do. Hindsight 20/20.
author: llKhiz    time: 2015-10-30 16:54:28

Edited by llKhiz at 2015-10-30 16:57

He's been around for over a year. If they were going to "fix" him they should have long ago.

I'm definitely not topping up again. This has annoyed me too much lol.

I built my whole team around Isshin. Bought Senbon because with isshin it was best to run with assault heavy. If they had said they were going to do this early on I would have went for a 3-1-1 with Mura or something. God damn it

author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-30 16:57:58

llKhiz replied at 2015-10-30 16:54
He's been around for over a year. If they were going to "fix" him they should have long ago.

I'm d ...

i think it is because they just started to work i think next step is buffing isshin so he becomes like CN cz CN has 35% chance as well not 100%
author: thepoke007    time: 2015-10-30 17:10:41

all im saying to these fukers ( developers or whatever)
u can't have it both ways little priks, make combo 100 n ishin doesn't regain fury each time n low dmg ... ok still good enough

make ishin as the originial fact of ... too lazy to bring the stats ok we good

but bring him half way both worse stats then fuk u
author: dionysvs    time: 2015-10-30 17:47:03

Dotiie replied at 2015-10-30 16:35
tbh i bought isshin cuz i knew about bug, if were 35% before, i would had keep my money

like you said, bug, so it was gonna get fixed sooner or later, like kensei controlling pve dailies
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-10-30 18:22:14

I understand the frustration but honestly it was just a matter of time.
Isshin was bugged having 100% combo rate while the description clearly states 35%. Any person with some knowledge could tell the magic he did was NOT 35%. If you honestly thought this was working as intended you best go back to school, excuse me.
As far as people complaining about us not following other publishers here's something to think about. We are getting way, way, WAY better rewards than most other, if not all publishers when it comes to topping up and rewards related to topping up. Should we also follow other publishers on this part? I don't think so.. Publishers of this game can do however they see fit.
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-30 18:31:36

Brahmastra replied at 2015-10-30 23:22
I understand the frustration but honestly it was just a matter of time.
Isshin was bugged having 100 ...

Yo

We are getting way, way, WAY better rewards than most other, if not all publishers when it comes to topping up and rewards related to topping up


I thought I was the only one person that saw this shit
The status of upgrading and spending money in this game is absolutely fucking amazing

not too sure if you know about Runescape, but it's literally this game and Runescape which is in-line for topping-up in the game, they offer way more than any other game ever, absolutely worth the money you pay.

Topping-up on either of these games literally unlocks a brand new world, brilliant how they've done it
author: dionysvs    time: 2015-10-30 18:42:23

good compared to other publishers, idk never played on any other
but these ppl think its worth it
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the whole point of browser games like these is that they offer PURE p2w
you can have an iq of 50 but as long as you top up, you can beat einstein
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-30 19:10:38

AHA I TOLD THAT AZZ FACE HE WASNT 100%
author: DeEmEn    time: 2015-10-30 19:47:08

Time for me to drop Isshin. The only thing he attracts me was the 100% combo rate.
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-30 20:03:04

dionysvs replied at 2015-10-30 23:42
good compared to other publishers, idk never played on any other
but these ppl think its worth it

why hide the names? xD
author: dionysvs    time: 2015-10-30 20:05:49

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-10-30 20:03
why hide the names? xD

um general forum posting, avoid names of ppl not involved
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-10-30 20:08:31

dionysvs replied at 2015-10-31 01:05
um general forum posting, avoid names of ppl not involved

eh i see what you mean
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2015-10-30 20:43:44

llKhiz replied at 2015-10-30 16:54
He's been around for over a year. If they were going to "fix" him they should have long ago.

I'm d ...

Next thing , they will nerf kensei , after that they will give sophisticated rangiku a breast reduction........
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-10-30 20:44:22

I love them for doing this. Now I replace Kensei to cover his spot and still hit wave 69. Everyone else that needed his combo boost are fucked and drop out way farther in Ryoka now. Top up wins again kids.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-30 21:58:06

dionysvs replied at 2015-10-30 16:28
to be fair, we all paid for the stats as he is now, 100% combo is a bug

Thank you, people complaining cause they "FIXED" his bug, always hated fighting isshin cause he 100% combo, ty gogames its about damn time u fix this op cheap character. He is too good for his price.
author: iz4n4minok4mi    time: 2015-10-31 08:05:59

He was cheap because he is nerfed as fuck.. Just look at ours and the original posted here..Well might as well go back to sexy yoruichi in ryoka. I got the +- same results with 2-2-1 formation there. I basically switched to him just to lvl him up faster. Will probably still use him in ES though, although I lost around 15 mil of dmg.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-31 12:35:52

Prof that Control Team Rocks
http://logineu.gogames.me/fightr ... ;t=1&lang=en_US
author: meekrat    time: 2015-10-31 13:19:34

DrSkullcrush replied at 2015-10-30 13:00
yea you are. i just never payed much attention to the names of people i cannot even reach, or ones t ...

Did someone say #godstarrk ?  I would love for our two Starrk's to meet, to demonstrate a true #godstarrk =)

#UBPprophet
author: noctustheking    time: 2015-10-31 13:34:22

bwg2469 replied at 2015-10-30 20:44
I love them for doing this. Now I replace Kensei to cover his spot and still hit wave 69. Everyone e ...

lol ive been getting to wave 61 with a 3-1-1 lol
fkin love hiki-shinso-uno kenny-main-tsi

author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-10-31 13:49:57

Miliandra replied at 2015-10-30 16:14
But for example!
Now isshin is 10k gold!
After fixing it will cost for example 8k

you cant blame gogames for that. his skill description clearly says its not supposed to be 100% combo.. them fixing it is not their problem, its yours for wanting something thats not meant to be there.. as in.. youre a greedy peice of shit, sorry.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-31 14:28:55

noctustheking replied at 2015-10-31 13:34
lol ive been getting to wave 61 with a 3-1-1 lol
fkin love hiki-shinso-uno kenny-main-tsi

OMG
Killa.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-10-31 19:20:20

Well if they wanted to fix Isshin so badly why didn't they fix him completely.
I still cant add him to Formation on pre battle screen in conquest.
I have to go through regular Formation screen.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 07:59:00

be has a combo based evo and mod so... you can get the fixed.
below is my crt/combo damage baby
i can switch out grimm for sexyyoruchi

author: dionysvs    time: 2015-11-1 08:02:51

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 07:59
be has a combo based evo and mod so... you can get the fixed.
below is my crt/combo damage baby
i c ...

cute ori overwrites zabimaru's dmg rate buff
dark rukia overwrites cute ori's dmg rate buff
you might wanna consider another support/zanp
and sexy yo > grimm
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:06:42

dionysvs replied at 2015-11-1 08:02
cute ori overwrites zabimaru's dmg rate buff
dark rukia overwrites cute ori's dmg rate buff
you mi ...

oo so it doesnt stack?

author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:17:29

Alright will use kisuke,
but dark rukia even its still same damage rate of 12% with cute so no much changes

Same will just use Either Grimmjow (pantero soon)
or Sexy Yoruchi/ since cute adds block to assaulter i don't need and wont get kenpachi, wante to get him cuz of his skill plus block, but pantero is beta and sexy is beta than pantero with furry for all by 25(more on crt) add more damge to support by 10% and 305 growth rate.

author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:19:21

dionysvs replied at 2015-11-1 08:02
cute ori overwrites zabimaru's dmg rate buff
dark rukia overwrites cute ori's dmg rate buff
you mi ...

add since sexy has 12% combo rate its good with isshin, mc 9th skill.
9th skil okay right

author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:29:42

RiadDahoe replied at 2015-10-30 20:43
Next thing , they will nerf kensei , after that they will give sophisticated rangiku a breast redu ...

OMG... dnt troll Rangiku nooooo, she wasnt ready nooooo...
          me and tshiro love does melons, nooooooooooooooo.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:41:28

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-30 21:58
Thank you, people complaining cause they "FIXED" his bug, always hated fighting isshin cause he 10 ...

i still combo like mad up to five 2x2 in one round (isshin skill, mc skills/combo, isshin combo, mc combo) back to 50/50 furry plus crt furry by cute.
so every two round he skills and shutdown assaulter and my yoruchi shutdown the support and may stun(most time like 76% of the time). also i swtich btw cute and kisuke for full team furry but no block and damge buff.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-1 09:45:50

i dont know why you guys are all hating isshin... if my isshin is faster than which ever assaulter you have i win.
if your support is faster than my yoruchi then mayb i will still win but my isshin and yoruchi go above 61k speed





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