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author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 05:32:09 Title: Who is better? Byakuya or Kenpachi?

I am Vip5 and lvl 76, Im literally saving to skip a whole tavern to get a jump on better Partners.
I have two forms so i can work around certain Fights.
Best and current: 1-2-2: Yachiru, Main, Renji, Orihime, Rukia
secondary: 1-3-1: Yachiru, Main, (was matsumoto, i switch from matsumoto and Ichigo), Renji, Orihime.

however i do wish to get IKAKKU since i hear hes also good. so add that on to the list.

Im going SUPER low on this so i can get a relly high jump when i am lvl 80. Saving every gold reishi, yadda yadda.

It would be great to know who is good for what. I also hear that ZabimaruREnji is weaker than the tavern Renji by a large margin.

When you reply i REALLY dont understand what the actual parts of PVE and PVP really mean, i know its used a lot and i want to understand what that really means game wise.

Im debating over (having and/or keeping) Byakuya or Kenpachi for the Assulter jump. Who would be better when i reach LVL 90

author: maniacpkt time: 2015-10-31 19:06:10

ikkaku is your number 1 priority right now.  so get him before anyone else.  next, for PVE i'd get kenpachi if you need a 3rd assaulter for events.  byakuya is good for PVP, but i've heard many people say they like their tosens better.

tavern renji is better than 1st swp renji, but lacks a bit behind soo renji in PVE.  zabimaru renji is an upgrade over tavern renji, though.

PVE events are ES and Ryoka, which it's better to focus on partners who deal tons of damage.  this is the most important part of the game, as this is where you will get the bulk of your XP and silver.  PVE also applies to things like tasks, hollow soul, etc.  it's more or less you vs the computer.

PVP is where you fight other players.  it's arena and hueco mundo as well as guild wars and protect seireitei.  here it's better to focus on crowd control such as stun, disarm, void, fury reduction,etc.  it's more speed and strategy based unlike PVE which is brute force.

author: Raeace time: 2015-10-31 19:41:31

If you want strong pvp I'd prefer starting with Yoruichi, she gives support stunn which can turn the fight in your favor, another support is Urahara, which can be gotten at lvl 80 who provides pvp and pve attributes. Vanguard is personal preference but overall Komamura works well. At lvl 80 Ikkaku works amazingly as pvp and pve assault, not too much in pvp, and I personally have Byakuya for pvp but my main is kido so he is just balancing it out. I dislike Tosen because with him you need to prioritize speed which is needed for supports and main. I figured and skipped Kenpachi and got swp Pantera Grimmjow for pve, who works well for that.

Overall my team is pvp Yoruichi - Gin, Main - Byakuya and Komamura for pve its Rukia - Urahara and Main - Pantera Grimmjow - Ikkaku. I think its not about the best team, I think its more about what do you want out of your team. So it depends on your main and what you can afford having, lvl 70 gold partners aren't bad, some of them are actually pretty good for f2p.

Yoruichi is great support stunner and lasts for a long while with being so fast, Komamura is just tank who takes all damage. Ikkaku and Kenpachi both just deal tons of damage to the vg which isn't the essential thing in pvp, so there are other assaults such as Tosen and Byakuya. Urahara is just basic support that everyone should get and at lvl 100 Stark is offensive vanguard, I'd love to have him but getting mods is pain and Gin is amazing support which is the reason I didn't get Harribel at lvl 70, since he is multiple times better.

All in all I think Yachiru with a lot of dodge and health can stay as an amazing vanguard, Rukia works in pve but Renji, Orihime, Matsumoto and Ichigo are a bit bad with horrible stats and every gold partner destroy them. For swp I think it's either Hyorinmaru Toshiro (upgraded one) and/or Pantera Grimmjow. Those both will make you saw in gold but will consume time and aren't the same as their counterparts Gin/Harribel and Kenpachi/Ikkaku.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 20:12:12

What better partners. There are no better partners from anywhere if they are not event partners from the tavern ones except swp aizen ( later ultima) and nozarashi ken (swp ken sucks) ans csb partners. All other are just waste of resourses. Lvl 70 komamura and yoruichi, 80 ikkaku and urahara (maybe byakuya), 90 unohana, 100 gin and starrk, 110 all of them.

Save your silver for lvl 80, and then start gathering reishi cause you get more gold reishi once you hit lvl 80. There's no way around things, and no swp partner is worth the while except the mentioned ones, theyr skills don't work in hollow soul, and that's enough to make them replaceble, which is a big deal since bond and evo had been enliseted.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 22:26:43

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-31 20:12
What better partners. There are no better partners from anywhere if they are not event partners from ...

i know the swp partners are terrible! why work so hard for that shiz! DX
so i also hear stark isnt that well...
im saving up so i can get two peeps at once and all that.
im definately getting ikkaku. for sure. I was going to get Komamura... but i felt that be somewhat of a bad thing after someone told me that nnoitra is slightly better. so im on the balance of my new vanguard.

author: Raeace time: 2015-10-31 22:29:30

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-31 22:26
i know the swp partners are terrible! why work so hard for that shiz! DX
so i also hear stark isnt ...

Best choice is to rush one, getting 2 at once is waste of time since you'll lose modification and experience days.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 22:32:33

Raeace replied at 2015-10-31 19:41
If you want strong pvp I'd prefer starting with Yoruichi, she gives support stunn which can turn the ...

Ah~ I see.
I was also told that tosen was terrible to byakuya.. but im not sure exactly why... I mean. It seems like the problem is how they react in pve and pvp. Byakuya in pvp and Tosen for Pve? I think.. though i know i might be wrong on that. With the rate im going and where im at in the game i was frequently told to do Kenpachi/Ikakku and then probably Komamura as van.
supports were Rukia and yoruichi. If it gets to that.... i think that would work for at least

I really want to get all the high-end chars but im not super rich at the moment, but i would honestly get Toshiro if i could i hear hes really good.

author: Raeace time: 2015-10-31 22:34:24

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-31 22:32
Ah~ I see.
I was also told that tosen was terrible to byakuya.. but im not sure exactly why... I ...

Tosen and Byakuya are both for pvp, if you have kido main then I prefer Byakuya, if not then you could just go for Ikkaku and or Kenpachi.

author: Raeace time: 2015-10-31 22:35:17

[email protected] replied at 2015-10-31 22:32
Ah~ I see.
I was also told that tosen was terrible to byakuya.. but im not sure exactly why... I ...

And Urahara is must have, in pve you'll use Urahara + Rukia supports, boosting fury isn't the best in pvp tho.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-10-31 23:14:36

maniacpkt replied at 2015-10-31 19:06
ikkaku is your number 1 priority right now. so get him before anyone else. next, for PVE i'd get k ...

ah~ Thank you very much~ this is good information!
Indeed, im planing on getting Ikkaku/Kenpachi since i can readily got the two. then in the end Byakuya.
i did hear though that tosen was lacking in some part of his stat with Byakuya... i may have to cheak that out soon.
indeed. even though ZabiRenji seems really nice. I think i will pass on that.. it seems many dont use him due to how slow he possibly is compared to TavRenji.... Im not sure how to go about it.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING.. i was having a hard time understanding the terms, as it was crucial to making decisions about my Picks.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 09:49:13

Raeace replied at 2015-10-31 22:35
And Urahara is must have, in pve you'll use Urahara + Rukia supports, boosting fury isn't the bes ...

ah~ I see~ seems reasonable.. and very good options. thank you~

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-1 10:02:19

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 09:49
ah~ I see~ seems reasonable.. and very good options. thank you~

I personally did a mistake and got first gold partner at lvl 76, Yoruichi and was late in modifications and experience, then I got Ikkaku and Urahara early 80s, then bought Byakuya and replaced Ikkaku in pvp comp, got later on Komamura because realized its good to have gold tank, Sado wont just do it anymore. I skipped all lvl 90 partners, because I had Pantera Grimmjow in makings, then at lvl 100 I just got Gin and replaced Urahara with him. But all in all I would go with whatever my heart desires, it shouldn't be relying on the overall meta or so.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 10:09:35

Raeace replied at 2015-11-1 10:02
I personally did a mistake and got first gold partner at lvl 76, Yoruichi and was late in modifica ...

awww >< well thats all fine, i have many options, hopefully i will find what will be best for me at the moment~
no worries~

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-1 10:32:57

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 10:09
awww >< well thats all fine, i have many options, hopefully i will find what will be best for me a ...

Well my favorite characters from Bleach anime 1. Urahara 2. Yoruichi 3. Gin so I prioritized on getting those. All happened to be supports tho...

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-1 11:25:06

get ganju he's the best partner ever and he can be upgraded to an SSS partner at later stages

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 12:12:00

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-1 11:25
get ganju he's the best partner ever and he can be upgraded to an SSS partner at later stages

ganju...... like the first person you get? i never heard that being a thing.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 12:14:03

Raeace replied at 2015-11-1 10:32
Well my favorite characters from Bleach anime 1. Urahara 2. Yoruichi 3. Gin so I prioritized on ge ...

shhh.... i have like... i TO DIE FOR fave on Kenpachi over here........ >< so im like......
iwantkenpachisobadomg.

and not be a fangirl over it. but i fail miserably cause as i see it... all my faves are asulters~

author: Raeace time: 2015-11-1 12:20:03

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 12:14
shhh.... i have like... i TO DIE FOR fave on Kenpachi over here........ >< so im like......
iwantk ...

All my favorites were supports. :3

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-1 12:24:11

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 20:12
ganju...... like the first person you get? i never heard that being a thing.

well ofc you haven't .... gogames folled you so u dismissed him right ? ..
too bad you could have made him into ultima Aizen for free

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 12:32:40

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-1 12:24
well ofc you haven't .... gogames folled you so u dismissed him right ? ..
too bad you could have ...

you pullin mah leg! No way! i know like a ton of peeps higher that I in arena alone dont even have him still!

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-1 12:36:27

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 20:32
you pullin mah leg! No way! i know like a ton of peeps higher that I in arena alone dont even have ...

if you don't believe me ask Sirnibbles .... he's the one who created this game and he will tell you the truth

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 12:40:49

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-1 12:36
if you don't believe me ask Sirnibbles .... he's the one who created this game and he will tell yo ...

omg.... dirty trick maaan~ XDD why they not say to keep all yo playersss~ that would be lesspainful! DX oh wells

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-1 12:44:46

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 20:40
omg.... dirty trick maaan~ XDD why they not say to keep all yo playersss~ that would be lesspainfu ...

yep that's why everyone in this forum worship ganju
#GodGanju
#AllHaillGanju
#TooBadIdismissedHimAsWell
#Troll
#Ganju
#Potatoes

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 13:00:04

Suzuken replied at 2015-11-1 12:44
yep that's why everyone in this forum worship ganju
#GodGanju
#AllHaillGanju

you meany ~

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-1 13:02:40

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 21:00
you meany ~

Sooowwwwwwwy
you know ..
i'm kinda the troll of the forums so ....

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 15:47:42

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 04:26
i know the swp partners are terrible! why work so hard for that shiz! DX
so i also hear stark isnt ...

Starrk is good, but you shouldn't wait for him. I would recommend komamura over nnoitra but you'll have to decide. The only thing nnoitra has over koma. is aid rate and that 4th mod. However that aid might come later then needed in round, and 4th mod is also a future term, by then you'll be able to get a better vg. Koma. just stands there, and he does that better then anyone else in the game, even h.ichigo, and that's all you need at the current lvl.

I see that you're struggling down there so i'll tell you, you should get ulquiorra and not byakuya, you might end up upgrading him, and using him till the end of the game, if not good also. He deals better dmg. has better stats than bya-kun etc. and is obtainable at the same lvl. Other then that you sound like a f2p, or low vip, so only swp aizen from swp other then ulq. if you ask me.

Rest i already told you.

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 15:50:28

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 04:26
i know the swp partners are terrible! why work so hard for that shiz! DX
so i also hear stark isnt ...

Or you could just decide to be a bad ass and keep kira and ganju. Kira get's a crazy buff from wabisuke, and you can upgrade ganju to true shikai ganju later on, and get his better half bonnie

#Bonniechan <3

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 18:36:12

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 15:47
Starrk is good, but you shouldn't wait for him. I would recommend komamura over nnoitra but you'll ...

ahh i see. ineresting info.. i will try to keep that in mind....

omg i dont think anyone i know still has ganju... DX

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-1 19:13:05

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-2 00:36
ahh i see. ineresting info.. i will try to keep that in mind....

omg i dont think anyone i know s ...

hahahaha, anyway check this guide out, and the ones related at the bottom when you have time, i'm sure they'll be helpfull

http://forums.gogames.me/thread-447-1-1.html

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-2 00:53:58

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 19:13
hahahaha, anyway check this guide out, and the ones related at the bottom when you have time, i'm ...

i have been staring at this for weeks~

author: [email protected] time: 2015-11-2 03:52:41

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-2 06:53
i have been staring at this for weeks~

Then i'm sure you'll make the right choice

author: Suzuken time: 2015-11-2 05:37:09

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-1 23:50
Or you could just decide to be a bad ass and keep kira and ganju. Kira get's a crazy buff from wab ...

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