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author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-11 18:02:56     Title: STARRK IS A BAMF - Hollow Map Complete!

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Starrk...is....god..

So I beat Aizen group fight in Hollow Map today...which I consider to be in some ways, the equivilant to beating the game from a PVE standpoint.  Granted there are some newer PVE features that are way harder, like inferno level Conquest of Might, and some of the Bond challenges, but generally speaking once you beat all challenges in Hollow Maps, you have beaten the game from a PVE standpoint.

So while I would like to self-brag a bit about my victory, because, well lets be honest, its pretty badass and amazing!

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I also wanted to provide some info to help out those who are still on their journey to greatness and beating the Hollow Soul Map.  First off I would like to point out, I beat the Hollow Map with 100% Tavern only partners, so hopefully that gives some hope to you out there that you do not need gold bought partners to win.  I could have easily rented a few gold partners and beaten Hollow Map months ago, but I wanted to win by utilizing careful strategy, pre-planned and dliberate decisions on partners BP growth and stat crafting.  So at the time of my victory, I took a screenshot of every partner in my formation (see below), so you can see exactly what stats I had and what characters I was using when I won.  I also won with 3 rounds remaining, so there was a little wiggle room left for how much damage my Starrk was doing.  

For a little bit of insight into this strategy, there were a few key goals to keep in mind to beating this group challenge:
1) Keep their 1 assaulter stunned, he really is a manic blade aka a vanguard but he was in the assaulter line.  There were two benefits to this, one being that he is stunned so he is not hitting Starrk and two that he was not giving his big defense increase buff to himself and Aizen.
2) Use #2 skill for main, for the -30% defense debuff, which is especially needed once you kill the VG and get to the assaulter line.
3) High crit chance on Retsu and Starrk.  The high crit is needed for a few reasons, since you are only stunning 1 of 5 enemies and two of them hit your main every two rounds, you need to be able heal your main back up to full before he gets hit again, healing him 99% will result in him dying, has to be healed back full so need Retsu dishing out good heals.  Starrk needed high crit both for self-healing and to be able to dish out enough damage to win before time runs out.
4) Getting by with the bare minimum. My main was surviving with exactly 681 hit points everytime he got hit by their VG/Supporter skills.  The counter stones on main was important to make sure he never got critical hit, 1 crit would kill him.  Starrk, for the first two rounds barely survives, but once Retsu gets going and he starts self healing he never drops back below 10%, but at the end of the 2nd round he dropped down to around 2% health.  The fact that my Main and Starrk both came within inches of death, was dilberate.  I purposely moved around stones, accessories, mod souls, treasures, hogyoku's etc, to get everything perfectly balanced, this required weeks of testing/data recording and tweaking/adjusting.  Since your supports never take any damage (assuming you have break def high enough), you can drop their STA stones for crit stones if you got spares.  The nice thing is if you get high counter on Starrk/Main, then the amount of damage they take is always 100% exactly the same, so you can run and re-run the fights to see how many HP's your dying/survivng by and keep rebalancing stats around until your partners are barely surviving but dealing max amount of damage.
5) Evolution played its role.  Of course my Starrk is a god, so he has tons of damage/hp's from evolution, so that is obvious but one of the hidden gems from evolution was the combo rate increase Kisuke gets at gold+ evolution, as well as Retsu.  Having some extra aid/combo on Kisuke/Gin/Retsu helped out a bit.
6) For the most part, Starrk does all of the damage.  My entire support line did practically no damage, my main did very little damage.  Starrk basically solo'd the enemy team.
7) Other team can get lucky with resisting Gin's stun on the assaulter manic blade, or getting a combo/extra round off on one of the two guys who hit your main.  If this happens, just try again, there is some level of luck involved with your crits, them not getting combos, your stun landing and you getting aid or combo's.

Summary: Stun their assaulter manic blade, put crit stones on retsu/starrk, make sure your main can survive the round he gets double hit .... win

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author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-11-11 18:04:34

yes, we all knew that
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-11-11 18:10:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-11-11 18:17:28

starrk is godlike in this game yeah, to stronk to be f2p XD
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-11-11 18:22:33

BurakCinar replied at 2015-11-11 18:17
starrk is godlike in this game yeah, to stronk to be f2p XD

he's the stronkest




author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-11-11 18:23:03

sirnibbles replied at 2015-11-11 18:22
he's the stronkest

wait whats up with your status? u can customize a message?
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-11-11 18:24:06

BurakCinar replied at 2015-11-11 18:23
wait whats up with your status? u can customize a message?

I CAN INDEED

AND IN 5 POSTS I THIKN YOU CAN TOO

YOU STRONK EUROPEAN
author: BurakCinar    time: 2015-11-11 18:25:45

sirnibbles replied at 2015-11-11 18:24
I CAN INDEED

AND IN 5 POSTS I THIKN YOU CAN TOO

better not get the status then kappapride
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-11-11 18:26:09

BurakCinar replied at 2015-11-11 18:25
better not get the status then kappapride

KMON MAN

YA HAVE TO

YEY
author: Sylencer90    time: 2015-11-11 18:36:39

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author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-11 19:53:13

how'd you beat executioner?
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-11-11 21:35:15

Sylencer90 replied at 2015-11-11 23:36
cant even beat tosen here...im cursed.

it's why you use Starrk Nel <3
author: DrSkullcrush    time: 2015-11-11 23:15:06

I have stark, im 111 and cant even beat tosen's 2nd group fight
author: DeEmEn    time: 2015-11-11 23:58:02

Well done! I beat Aizen few weeks ago, with my assaulter.
author: theunknown404    time: 2015-11-12 02:14:43

Congrats! I am currently stuck at Gin's second group. If only my people had more hp.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2015-11-12 02:40:07

Grats!
author: Gurr    time: 2015-11-12 03:24:53

       Grats!!
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-11-12 05:18:06

Congratz Meek, I'm interested on how you beat the Solo fights of Aizen's 2nd and 3rd winnion. Did you use your Starrk as well?
author: Uzumakia1    time: 2015-11-12 05:57:58

whats your bp? so i know around when to beat him?
author: slandry    time: 2015-11-12 07:14:25

i'm lv 93 and still stuck at stark 2 fight
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-12 11:32:28

Uzumakia1 replied at 2015-11-12 02:57
whats your bp? so i know around when to beat him?

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author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-12 12:08:24

grats Meekrat
author: ajoalex    time: 2015-11-12 12:20:56

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-12 20:32
:p

bp doesn't matter here. just the needed hit rate and the proper strategy. if u dt have the needed hit rate then raw power is enough even if you miss once.

@OP aka Mr UBP Prophet, congrats man. good work there esp with the tavern partners

(@nipple, yes you can, i believe in you )
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-12 15:57:09

ajoalex replied at 2015-11-12 09:20
bp doesn't matter here. just the needed hit rate and the proper strategy. if u dt have the needed  ...

i know that ,he got 6. in arena ,so his stark is as fking op
author: asunayuki    time: 2015-11-12 16:24:33

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-12 12:08
grats Meekrat

noob                     
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-12 21:57:02

asunayuki replied at 2015-11-12 16:24
noob

You are welcome

author: Cronosel    time: 2015-11-12 22:06:28

asunayuki replied at 2015-11-12 18:24
noob

Welcome guy
author: Giouvas    time: 2015-11-13 04:03:19

Meekrat at what level did you beat gin? and with what formation? I am using vg based formation with stark as well. i am 113 and having probles with 2nd group fight
author: asunayuki    time: 2015-11-13 07:58:10

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-12 21:57
You are welcome

Thanks      
author: Giouvas    time: 2015-11-14 05:02:47

grats @meekrat! still waiting for your answear

author: Raeace    time: 2015-11-14 05:09:31

Actually your success doesn't give me too much hope since you have Hyorinmaru, who doesn't happen to be free... If you had used Kazeshini or Zabimaru then perhaps...

#Gegetsuburi4lyfe
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:21:51

moongoatie replied at 2015-11-12 05:18
Congratz Meek, I'm interested on how you beat the Solo fights of Aizen's 2nd and 3rd winnion. Did yo ...

Yes, I used Starrk for all of the solo fights.  I actually did not beat him in his final 1v1 (vs. Aizen himself).  I got him as low as 20%, but due to the extremely high hit rate required, I opted not to beat him 1v1 and focus on winning a disadvantaged 5v5.  At 305% hit rate my Starrk hit Aizen aprox. 60% of the time, I would have needed to invest into 1, possibly 2 more lvl 9 hit stones (my Starrk had all lvl 9's or 10's).  That would have allowed me to beat 1v1 aizen, and then easillllly beat 5v5.  However, there is absolutely no need to have 315% hit rate for any other PVE or PVP, so I would have spent thousands of coupons for an additional hit stone or two, and they would have been worthless as soon as I won.  Wheras all the work I put in to beat Aizen 5v5, most of that work was invested in dmg/defense/hp on both Starrk and my main, therefor it is all still useful and relevant, so I wasted nothing.

A tip I self-learned and found useful, is remember that stun chance level based.  1v1 fights that you can be stunned in suck, so I found bringing Starrk to my max lvl helped tremendouisly avoiding being stunned.  My max lvl for Aizen was 122, it was 120-121 for other fights.

Starrk destroyed the other solo fights of Aizen.  I believe I had somewhere in the neighborhood of about 1.6m BP when I beat those two fights, but more importantly then my total BP was my Starrk's BP, which was around 610k-625k BP.

Hope that info helps some.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:29:08

Uzumakia1 replied at 2015-11-12 05:57
whats your bp? so i know around when to beat him?

My total current BP is between 1.9m and 2m.  But that isn't really that important.  For the most part, 3/5 of my team was worthless.  I needed my main to survive so he could debuff their assaulter line, I needed Retsu to heal, gin to stun, and kisuke to push fury....I did not really care about kisuke or gin's stats, their skills did no damage ever, and their speed didn't matter, so basically you could subtract 500k from my BP and the outcome would have been exactly the same.  Retsu stats did matter a little bit, I needed her damage (aka her heal) amount to be decent enough, but even she relatively didn't count.  And as for my main, I only needed him alive to debuff....all the BP and stats that matter were on Starrk.  (relatively speaking, the Aid/Combo rates of my other partners helped some as well, but those stats give almost no BP gain).

My main BP was around 280k and Starrk's was around 630k...so that is a little over 900k.  I would say, if you balanced your power and strength strategically into the right partners and were utilizing the same strategy as me, you could beat 5v5 Aizen, with disadvantage at around 1.1 - 1.3m BP
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:29:57

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-11 19:53
how'd you beat executioner?

Same way I beat everyone, honestly, dump a ton into Starrk and watch him murder everyone.
author: Uzumakia1    time: 2015-11-14 09:31:54

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 14:29
My total current BP is between 1.9m and 2m.  But that isn't really that important.  For the most p ...

damn, 1.5m bp here and gin 1st minion is annoying the hell out of me.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:37:43

Edited by meekrat at 2015-11-17 20:31
Raeace replied at 2015-11-14 05:09
Actually your success doesn't give me too much hope since you have Hyorinmaru, who doesn't happen to ...


You know, let me offer this up to inspire a bit of hope there.  You are correct, Hyorinmaru is really the only thing I have that you can't get for free, unless you happened to get it in UBP.  I missed that UBP, it wasn't until 2 UBP's later that I figured out you could save vit to get free stuff from UBP.  However, I was able to buy Hyorinmaru for $10.  His price was lowered so much during Reio, that during a really good reio combo events, I topped up twice, got a butt load of gold, and had a little bit of luck in reio janken, got was able to get Hyorinmaru for next to nothing.

However, lets say you are truly 100% F2P, and that you can't even top up $10 for whatever reason.  Keep in mind, I finished Aizen, without using any reward from my 18,888 coupons 1 year sign in reward.  If I would have waited and did that, and used my viso revenge reward and selected a lvl 10 STR treasure, and then use my stockpiled hogu talismans to level it up (and even F2P and stockpile talismans from many events including SA), then I could easily boosted my Starrk's defense and damage through the roof.

Someone could do all of that all while remaining F2P.  So yes, I could have easily beaten Aizen without Hyrorinmaru, should I have chosen to wait and use Viso rewards towards beating him, I instead opted not too.  Hopefully this gives a little bit of additional hope.

I will say, I did experiment some with Zabimaru and Ashisogi, nice thing about Ashisogi is his DOT damage ignores defense, but ultimately they just didn't give me what I needed.
author: Raeace    time: 2015-11-14 09:52:25

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 16:37
You know, let me offer this up to inspire a bit of hope there.  You are correct, Hyorinmaru is rea ...

I think its nearly impossible to beat aizen f2p with vg heavy team. I personally have supportheavy team so your method doesn't work for me. I think its just overall how you build your team and what you can afford to have for boosting it, for example you had vg heavy team and so Hyorinmaru's low damage boost didn't affect your Starrk too much, instead it made him even stronger. Maybe support heavy team would do better with such as Muramasa or so. But f2p zanpakutos are pretty iffy.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:53:04

[email protected] replied at 2015-11-12 11:32
:p

Lol that is a bit deceiving.  My normal BP is around 1.80 million, I spike it up about 150,000 for CSB and HMA.  One thing about not having a balanced team is your stats drastically change when you move things around.

As for my arena rank, I normally sit at #6, I am capable of holding #4, but partially due to being lazy and not wanting to move things around (I do GW/ES/Ryoka's etc. with my PVP setup lol), so I often get bumped, and don't really care.  The only time I do arena is when I need to finish daily tasks.

There was a time a few months ago (with the same ppl you see in that BP Ranking Screenshot) where I was not even in the top 10 BP, but I was #3 in Arena, consistantly, for awhile.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:55:25

Giouvas replied at 2015-11-13 04:03
Meekrat at what level did you beat gin? and with what formation? I am using vg based formation with  ...

For Gin, I know I used Kisuke/Starrk/Main, and I believe for the 5v5 I used Gin/Aizen (tavern).  As for level, I believe I was level 120 on my main, Starrk and Kisuke would have also been lvl 120, and Gin was around 115 and Aizen was exactly lvl 105.

Strategy was to lock down everyone I could, so that Starrk's self heal was > their damage output, and for him to kill them before they killed him.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 09:57:52

ajoalex replied at 2015-11-12 12:20
bp doesn't matter here. just the needed hit rate and the proper strategy. if u dt have the needed  ...

Thanks man =)

You are definitely right about the BP no mattering, so to speak.  I could have put on lvl 50 gear on my Main, Kisuke and Gin and the results would have been exactly the same, and that would lower my BP by half a million at least I'm sure.

The only real BP that mattered was Starrk's.  And as you very well know there are things that give little to no BP that make HUGE differences, like Fury stones, Aid Rate/Combo Rate etc...
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 10:14:35

Edited by meekrat at 2015-11-17 20:34
Raeace replied at 2015-11-14 09:52
I think its nearly impossible to beat aizen f2p with vg heavy team. I personally have supportheavy ...


I don't disagree with most of your post.  I will say that a F2P can win with a heavy VG team.  To be honest, I am a heavy support team, I have ran 3-1-1 since I was lvl 70'ish.  I have never used other assaulters, and it's not because I don't have decent ones.  I believe 3 things are key to winning end game, and in this order, 1) Speed, 2) Control, 3) VG that survives 2 full rounds.

Now yes, my Starrk is by far the strongest partner on my team, but my main is by far the weakest partner on my team.  Most of my focus is split between my supports and Starrk.

Plus, like I said the viso reward alone could be enough to help beat Aizen.  Let me put it into perspective, a new maxed lvl 10 STR treasure, that would be replacing a near max lvl 6 treasure (thats the highest I can farm), would result in about a 40,000 STR gain on my Starrk.  I don't think I need to explain exactly how much damage and defense forty-thousand strength on Starrk translates into.  With that much damage, I would have even been able to beat the 1v1 without getting additional hit stones, just because of how much harder Starrk would hit/crit and heal, even with missing half the time.  And again, anyone that is F2P could do this.

It goes back to one of the good points you made, the key to victory is strategy.  There are many ways to beat opponents both in PVP and PVE, figuring out what works for you within your limits is the key to victory.  I had at least 5 different ways that I could have beaten Aizen, 3 involved OP Starrk 2 did not.  All were a good bit different, and all would have worked but would have required me to focus my efforts in a certain direction for weeks/months.

Either way, Aizen is def. beatable as F2P, and is def. beatable with a F2P VG Heavy team, just depends on how dedicated you are to beating it and how good you are at patience/strategy/long-term planning.
author: Raeace    time: 2015-11-14 10:19:54

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 17:14
I don't disagree with most of your post.  I will say that a F2P can win with a heavy VG team.  To  ...

Yeah, but its a lot harder with vg heavy team, I personally run currently Shihoin Yoruichi + Gin Ichimaru support line with plenty of speed, but not too much damage, and I'm far away from beating Aizen, and I also have Byakuya who can slow enemies, and having so much control over enemy teams has gotten me into territory where I have lowest bp out of people around my rank in arena, but I can beat up to 5th player just because of my teamcomp. (I'm 16th in bp, and usually rank 10 in arena) I wish I had enough bravery to stack everything on one partner but I don't and thats why I respect your decision to make your Starrk a beast. And I'm lvl 105 so as I said, far away from Aizen.
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 10:59:43

Raeace replied at 2015-11-14 10:19
Yeah, but its a lot harder with vg heavy team, I personally run currently Shihoin Yoruichi + Gin I ...

Just based on your posts and replies, I can tell that you have the fundamental understanding of this game and how it works that I have 0 doubts you will have any problems eventually beating Aizen with your own strategy.

I can respect the lower BP/higher rank scenario, its been like that for me for awhile.  I find it quite satisfying though.  I can't claim the whole F2P > big VIP if your smart...because, well I'm not F2P, but I can say I have spent half as much on this game as some, and have gone twice as far.  I am as strategic about my gold spending (VIP6 btw), as I am about my combat strategy.

Yoruichi, Gin, Kisuke, Main and Sajin was my setup for a long time, then Starrk replaced Sajin, then about 8 months ago I got Shinigami Kisuke from UBP (#UBPprophet) and he replaced Yoruichi.  Although I did buy Tavern Aizen to help me beat Gin 5v5, and I used him quite a bit for Aizen 5v5 while I experimented around, so basically I ran the same setup as you did, just at one point about 6-7 months ago I made a strategic decision to focus primarily on Shini Kisuke and Starrk, and it has worked out well.

Keep up the good work, more power to ya for being F2P and growing as you have.
author: Raeace    time: 2015-11-14 11:04:25

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 17:59
Just based on your posts and replies, I can tell that you have the fundamental understanding of th ...

I'm going to get Aizen at 110 and I can't afford getting 3 1 1 just because my main is Kido so having Byakuya is necessary resource of damage for time being, untill I get swp Ulquiorra. And I'm not quite f2p, I have payed enough to get skip battles, but the gold went to early tavern wins xD (blue partners to be exact, and this was my first server so I made quite the amonut of mistakes)
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-14 11:08:27

Edited by meekrat at 2015-11-14 11:10
Raeace replied at 2015-11-14 11:04
I'm going to get Aizen at 110 and I can't afford getting 3 1 1 just because my main is Kido so hav ...


Lol, no worries, this was my first server as well, so I made a few also haha.  Good point about needing Byakuya, my main is physical damage, although at times I wish he was kido, more useful in PVP.

I will say, having a 3-1-1, makes it so much easier to focus on Starrk because then you only have two STR stone users, and since the primary purpose of Supporters are to either control, buff or debuff, their wisdom stones aren't quite as critical as an assaulter or vg's strength stones.  I would taken the 2 best supporters in the game over the 2 best assaulters in the game, any day.

Also, SWP Ulq will be a HUGE help to beating Aizen, because his DOT damage will ignore the defense buff.  That is why I experimented a bit with using Yamamoto and Ashisogi as zanpakuto, was to see if I could get my DOT damage to out damage the defense buff.

author: Raeace    time: 2015-11-14 11:12:13

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 18:08
Lol, no worries, this was my first server as well, so I made a few also haha.  Good point about ne ...

Well my Byakuya is almost like comical relief, he has no agi whatsoever, he just has decent damage and I just wait for his death so I can activate 5th mod. My Gin is my main priority with 63k wis and 85k agi, while my Yoruichi is a lot slower and weaker, but has combo rate that can help me to stunn enemy supports, I prioritized speed on Gin over Yoruichi because mostly enemies stack damage AND speed on mains so I need to outspeed their main's and if lucky my combo rate will help me out with Yoruichi. My main is inbetween with decent speed and about equal damage, while Byakuya has decent damage but agi thats gets outsped by everything. ._.
author: ryujikun18    time: 2015-11-14 11:18:38

sirnibbles replied at 2015-11-11 18:22
he's the stronkest

no he isnt ichigo is biznatch !!!
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-11-14 11:58:31

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 09:21
Yes, I used Starrk for all of the solo fights.  I actually did not beat him in his final 1v1 (vs.  ...

Thank you =)
author: Giouvas    time: 2015-11-14 20:07:33

meekrat replied at 2015-11-14 09:55
For Gin, I know I used Kisuke/Starrk/Main, and I believe for the 5v5 I used Gin/Aizen (tavern).  A ...

thank you for your reply and info. i guess all i need is to wait for lvl 120. my stark is at 550k bp at lvl 113 already so i guess i just need the levels to beat both gin and aizen
author: penises    time: 2015-11-15 02:02:24

wow I will never reach aizen lol
author: PacoNegro    time: 2015-11-15 02:09:50

whats hollow soul map
author: Shadow49999    time: 2015-11-15 02:14:27

PacoNegro replied at 2015-11-15 02:09
whats hollow soul map

you r too young my child.
author: scapegoat31    time: 2015-11-15 02:52:38

Still stuck on Stark in the hollow map. This is going to take forever.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-11-15 09:10:25

Alright... i have a Question; i hv done the maths but i can't put my hand to it if btw this two who does beta dmg to vanguard, Minus Special SKill like 25 furry to all partner and block to assaulter.
Btw Sexy Yoruchi and Zaraki Kenpachi. which is beta all around damage.
author: jackthehorn    time: 2015-11-15 10:37:30

what is your reaitsu level??
author: RivensBanKai    time: 2015-11-15 23:21:20

i want to ask something ... you said you won it F2P ... OK i dont count hyorinmaru but , have you noticed your partners equipment ? i see sets that worth gold , ofcourse no big deal but they give much much more than the ones you can get as F2P wich is 110lvl upgraded currently . i mean all that stats and rates bonus are too much to be ignored ...  congratz anyway but its not F2P
author: kosmik    time: 2015-11-16 12:08:44

Edited by kosmik at 2015-11-16 12:10

he has extactly 1.8 sets* and 2 extra's, which is exactly what you would have if you had been doing slots for FREE since they first started putting em out.

side note - looks like he got screwed like I did where when we just needed 2 pieces to finish a suit and they changed the gear levels it was giving out!
author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-17 20:29:01

Edited by meekrat at 2015-11-17 20:40
RivensBanKai replied at 2015-11-15 23:21
i want to ask something ... you said you won it F2P ... OK i dont count hyorinmaru but , have you no ...


If you read Kosmik's post that will address part of your post.  He is correct in both the fact that I obtained most of my non-crafted gear for free, and that I did indeed get 'screwed' during the switch over of gear available in slots.  If you look at my gear, you will not see any full sets of "gold" gear (like the stuff from the Ultimate Arsenal / Reio), because I have never bought a set of gold armor.  Admittingly I did spend 80g once in slots because I was 10pts shy of getting a piece.

But here lies the single greatest problem with your post.....where did I ever say I won it F2P?  The answer is no where.  I never claimed that.  I said that I beat it with Tavern partners only, no gold partners.  Which would exclude Hyrorinmaru, as that is a Zanpakuto, but for all intense purposes could be considered a 'partner', but I clarified that I did have that and that I recognized that he cost gold...unless of course you got him in UBP, which he was in UBP, so therefor you could have potentially had him for free too.

To further clarify, I believe that the hollow map can be beat as a F2P.  I'm not claiming that I did it, I just claimed that I did it without any big ticket items.  Like I didn't drop $500 for a Mugetsu or Tense Zangetsu, or a brand new Red partner etc., I was simply saying "Hey, look I beat Hollow Map and did it with tavern partners", and furthermore I did it with crap gear (compared to most mid-high lvl VIP's).

Also on the topic of gear, only two of my characters (out of 5) even had non-crafted gear, and one of them was wearing level 100 gear.

And to top this off, which I mentioned before, I completed this without having/utilizing my 365 day sign in bonus.  I could have easily selected a STR Treasure, spent my saved Talismans on it, and instantly sent my Starrk's power through the roof (both for defense and offense), and that would have still all remained F2P.

So while I never made the comment that you mention in your post, I would stand by the statement that hollow map can be beaten by F2P, it just probably would take a few extra weeks-months.  And also, your comment about gold bought sets, was entirely inaccurate, Kosmik's post accurately reflect the gear's origin.  I plan things out months in advanced and spend months towards working on goals, I obtained a fair amount of those pieces you see 1 or 2 pieces at a time, all of which can be obtained for free as a F2P, with a little bit of planning and sometimes a little bit of luck.

Thank you for your gratz, I appreciate it, I certainly put as much work into beating this challenge as any F2P ever will, I just was able to finish it a little bit quicker because I spent a few bucks on the game here and there.  I wanted to provide some inspiration that hollow map can be beat, with regular tavern partners, with regular gear (obtainable via F2P), through careful strategy and determination.
author: kosmik    time: 2015-11-17 20:35:41

meekrat replied at 2015-11-17 20:29
If you read Kosmik's post that will address part of your post.  He is correct in both the fact tha ...


omg I was right for once.
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-11-19 13:36:06

Edited by moongoatie at 2015-11-19 13:46

Thanks for all the tips Meek! While I used a completely different Strategy than you it helped a lot

Hope you don't mind if I share my team comp for anyone who is interested


author: meekrat    time: 2015-11-20 18:18:16

moongoatie replied at 2015-11-19 13:36
Thanks for all the tips Meek! While I used a completely different Strategy than you it helped a lot  ...

Very nice.  Did you have to beat it with the 5v5 disadvantage as well?  I see you have CSB Kenny, which can blow through that guys defense if you have enough dmg on him (which you do).
author: moongoatie    time: 2015-11-21 19:03:26

meekrat replied at 2015-11-20 18:18
Very nice.  Did you have to beat it with the 5v5 disadvantage as well?  I see you have CSB Kenny,  ...

Yea I skipped 1v1 as well. Didnt have the patience for that high Hit rate. My Shura's dmg is barely enough. Needed 15/20 Criticals to beat it and that critical penatly destroyed my dreams many times xD
author: Giouvas    time: 2015-12-3 18:00:52

meekrat i tried to reach you with a pm without success. i managed to clear gin and i also killed up to 2nd 1v1 at aizen hollow. i need some advice on how to kill the 2v2 group fight. I try with yoroichi/gin /retsu/main/stark but seems i lack something either knowledge, power or levels. My stark is at 610k bp atm. Can give screenshots as well if i get a reply
author: spamers    time: 2015-12-3 18:49:17

Edited by spamers at 2015-12-3 18:55

Gz. If we can see, you used tavern partners, i used free zanpakuto. So we can say, what F2P can clear soul map. He just need more time.  And man, your Stark is very good.(I have 11lvl strenght spirit stones)

author: Giouvas    time: 2016-1-24 06:30:10

so i am trying the 5v5 against aizen but my main can't stand the 2 hits.... should i remove stuff from my stark and try to buff up my main a bit?
author: Giouvas    time: 2016-1-24 06:51:12

my main survived by retsu can't fully heal him lol xD well i am prolly gonna do it today. i keep notes here just to know what i am missing at every step. you can delete them after if they annoy you
author: Giouvas    time: 2016-1-24 07:26:40

Giouvas replied at 2016-1-24 06:51
my main survived by retsu can't fully heal him lol xD well i am prolly gonna do it today. i keep not ...

done with the healing part now i lack damage to finish them. getting close.....
author: Giouvas    time: 2016-1-24 08:07:59

done it after 3 hours or trying different things i did it! thx a lot for your post meekrat, couldn't do it without your help!
author: meekrat    time: 2016-2-5 23:07:48

Giouvas replied at 2016-1-24 08:07
done it after 3 hours or trying different things i did it! thx a lot for your post meekrat, couldn't ...

Very nice!! Gratz!!  Glad my detailed post could help at least a couple people out.


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