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author: crimsonhydra time: 2014-9-20 22:54:24 Title: PGM ISSUE

there is an issue with a player on USs45 name Devil he says he is a PGM and if thats the case its a bigger problem bc he is rude to everyone who sint in his guild,he doesnt help anyone and even blocks players who he doesnt like.before he was suppposedly made a PGM he use to complain about players who top up on a regular bases and was crude to everyone which is what the last PGM on this server was reported for.and he doesnt say anything to people who are his friends/guildies when they a completely crude and disrespectful in fact he joins them most of the time.its not a good example for your game and company for someone like that to be representing it.thank you.

author: Spazmodia time: 2014-9-20 23:04:24

not only does he do this, but threatens to get people banned simply for disagreeing with him. being a PGM does not mean that you get a free ticket to do whatever you want, and act however you want without consequences

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-20 23:09:51

Spazmodia replied at 2014-9-20 22:04
not only does he do this, but threatens to get people banned simply for disagreeing with him. being ...

Be sure to take screenshots of chat and him doing this and send them to [email protected]

They will look at the information and take action if need be.

author: Tarush time: 2014-9-20 23:12:06

It was odd that if s/he is indeed a PGM, s/he would have helped ruin Protect Seireitei today by not defending (because they don't like level 13 fireballs) and wanted a reset on the fireballs for tomorrow. This led to basically a freeze of Protect Seireitei with no one participating. So basically this person decided that rather than be beat fairly within the rules of the game, they would abandon those rules and "skip out" so they can claim not to have been beaten. This is not an example that I would think the company ought to be having represent it. Especially when paired with the actions that the original poster pointed out. This set up has some flaws and it appears that the person put in place to point those out and maintain order wants to manipulate them for her/himself. Hopefully that one person is providing enough cash flow to your company to make up for the dozens of other players s/he has and will run off.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-20 23:17:24

He is not the PGM of S45, Kurenai is.
Please screenshot his chat when he is talking like that and send it to support.

author: PlasticSpastic time: 2014-9-20 23:30:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-20 22:09
Be sure to take screenshots of chat and him doing this and send them to [email protected]

They w ...

I am the person he threatened to get banned this evening claiming I was harrassing him. Which is completely not true at all. I was simply having a discussion about why he was refusing to protect the gate and him claiming it was to give us free chests and because he wanted the fireballs resetting. So upon realizing it was to benefit himself and his guild we all refused to take part. He didn't like what I had to say (which was in no way rude might I add) so threw it in my face that he is a PGM and will get me banned for harrassment which is a total joke to be honest as HE was the one that was rude. I didn't take screen shots of the said convo but plenty ppl were witness to it. On my very first day of playing this game i also witnessed him doing the same with somebody else, threatening to get them banned because he started arguments and then wanted to act upon their response.

Everyday less and less ppl are taking part in the daily events and leaving this server and tbh if it wasn't for friends I would've left too. What kind of example does he set for the game?

author: Tarush time: 2014-9-20 23:30:53

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-20 22:17
He is not the PGM of S45, Kurenai is.
Please screenshot his chat when he is talking like that and se ...

Thank you for letting us know. I will do this in the future, but honestly, I don't have any desire to have the world chat on anymore. I usually have it shut down because I was fed up with seeing her/him threaten to report anyone that said something s/he didn't like and then claiming to be the victim of it all. Should I have the chat open and catch this again, I will submit it. I only know what transpired today because I was wondering what was going on during Protect Seireitei when there were apparently no defenders and very few attackers attacking. That was when I saw his person basically egging on the rest of the players telling them that they were being given a "freebie" and they should take it otherwise her/his guild was just going to get all the chests and keep getting stronger. Not exactly building an environment that makes new players want to stick around.

Thank you again for the information.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 00:32:30

Tarush replied at 2014-9-20 22:30
Thank you for letting us know. I will do this in the future, but honestly, I don't have any desire ...

As I told the other person, put him on block and if he acts up, screenshot it, if it's bad enough he will be punished.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 00:33:01

PlasticSpastic replied at 2014-9-20 22:30
I am the person he threatened to get banned this evening claiming I was harrassing him. Which is c ...

He can't get anyone banned without screenshots/evidence. Just put him on block imo.

author: Spazmodia time: 2014-9-21 01:28:05

he has now said that Charlie gave him the position of PGM on the 17th. so idk if this is just scammy or if he's completely full of it, but yeah....

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 01:39:23

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-9-21 00:46

I took screen shots, I do not appreciate being harassed and badgered by these kids and then slandered on forums, notice the same people who trolling me are ones mad because my guild is #1 and has held it for 2 weeks, they also have cussed at my guild mates and said that we should "Disband as no one can beat us"
US45PGm
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author: Tarush time: 2014-9-21 06:03:42

I would like to refer to the definition of SLANDER as found at the Merriam-Webster dictionary website:

slander: to make a false spoken statement that causes people to have a bad opinion of someone

I would like to point out that for it to be slander, the statement must be FALSE and it must be spoken.

Let's examine the first point: Are you denying that you left the gate undefended and told the other players that "level 13 fireballs suck" and that you'd let them have this one and beat the hell out of them tomorrow? Do you deny that you continued to taunt said players with comments along the lines of "Fine, we'll get the 30 chests and just keep getting stronger"? Because I cannot speak for others, but those are the comments that showed up on my computer screen. Therefore, repeating what I saw is not slander.

For the second point: What you are possibly trying to accuse others of is libel. However, even with libel, the statements must be false. And in both cases, the sweet point that must be proven is that the statements were made knowing that they were false. Recounting events does not fit this bill. Or are you trying to say the dozen or so people that witnessed this are all lying? Do not try to disprove someone else's facts with your opinion ("mad because my guild is #1 and has held it for two weeks).

If you deny those statements, publicly, that will be the end of it from me as I do not have screen shots of the conversation. In the future, however, I will be sure to take some.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 06:05:38

Spazmodia replied at 2014-9-21 00:28
he has now said that Charlie gave him the position of PGM on the 17th. so idk if this is just scammy ...

Well the list may not be updated, I don't know. I got nothing to do with the PGM system. As I said if he's abusing his position, if he is indeed a PGM, then screenshots to Charlie and support will fix the issue.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 06:07:00

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-21 00:39
I took screen shots, I do not appreciate being harassed and badgered by these kids and then slandere ...

Same as I told them, if there is evidence to be had for either side, please send it to Cyrus or Charlie, they will handle the matter. Thank you.

author: korogan time: 2014-9-21 06:18:37

PGM has no right to ban tbh, they can only report that's all

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 14:23:03

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-9-21 13:32

I never said anything about (Banning anyone) I said that if you don't stop harassing me that I will screenshot it and send it to a Gm (Facts: cussing and harassing any player may result in a ban) and what I say about Protect the Seireitei is no reason for you to come in here crying and falsely making statements ((Yes I had my guild leave the gate wide open and said please take it because lvl 13 fireball sucks and kills us even if we get a win... not my fault you passed up a 1st place we gave you a freebie and now your crying because of it??));
so Hydra (yes I know it's you Tanaka told me... and also apologized for his actions and we made amends) before you try to make things up make sure to cover your bases and take screenshots like I had.
including one's of Tanaka admitting that it was you (who are already got blacklisted by me) being the main 1 behind this.

My exact words, "I will not tolerate you cussing and harassing me and will report you to a Gm if you do not stop"

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 14:49:05

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-21 13:23
I never said anything about (Banning anyone) I said that if you don't stop harassing me that I wil ...

There is nothing wrong with giving up the gate a day or 2 for fireball reset anyways, I don't know why people would get salty over that. I do it all the time around fireball 10, even though I don't have to.

author: Spazmodia time: 2014-9-21 16:55:19

screens from here on out then.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 17:00:09

its just as you saw, it went from them lying about what I say to the truth (being #1 and not disbanding my guild like they are saying I should do in world chat) "Because no one can beat you guys"... If you want to beat us you had your chance, I refuse to disband my guild and will continue to retain a #1 placing as long as possible, you should of taken the freebie

author: Tarush time: 2014-9-21 17:12:59

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-21 13:49
There is nothing wrong with giving up the gate a day or 2 for fireball reset anyways, I don't know ...

Everythingswrong,

In no way is the following meant to be a personal attack on anyone, it is not personal and NO ONE should take it that way. But I want to take a moment to explain why this is a problem. It is from the point of view of a player that either: a) cannot afford to become a high level VIP or b) is wary of dropping so much money into a game where the benefit to a few outweigh the enjoyment of all. I am going to use the metaphor of a marathon for this.

Suppose you are running a marathon. You are not fast and are near the back of the field. At the 41st km, a race official is there and hands you a finisher's medal and says, "We didn't feel like leaving the finish line open to wait for you, so here. Have a nice day." For those not familiar, a marathon is 42 km. You can see the finish line from there. Are you going to feel accomplished? And you going to feel like the goal you've been working towards has been achieved? No. You wouldn't. So when the defenders do that, what reason is there except to lord over the other players. "We gave you that win." If they don't like the fireballs, too bad. It is designed into the game to give new and low level players at least SOME hope of accomplishing something. What reason is there for the defenders, if they know they are going to lose because the fireballs are too strong, to not defend other than to pacify their ego? If you were running that marathon, would you be happy with that? If you've been beat down every day for 10 days, do you want to be "given" a win? No, you want to earn it. And this is one reason a lot of new or low level VIPs have left. I understand, the big VIPs are the ones that the game developers want. But 100 players spending $20 per month is a lot on one server. Does the one individual or select few surpass that? I am also reminded of a quote I heard once (I am not sure where I heard it, so if someone knows whom to attribute it, please feel free to let me know): I would rather sell 1,000 tickets at $1 each than 1 ticket at $1000.

So a problem that people have with a supposed PGM doing that is simple: the spirit of the game (maybe not necessarily the rules) are being circumvented to pacify those with a high VIP level and ruin the game even further for those that do not have VIP status or came in late to the server. I know of entire guilds that have closed up on US45 due to this being the straw that broke the camels back. We are simply asking that if someone is going to be in that position, they use it for the betterment of the game as a whole and not for the sheer enjoyment of a select few. Thank you.

author: Robenator time: 2014-9-21 17:15:19

Oh lord, just post the proof in screenshots and let's get this over with instead of arguing through 100000s of words no one wants to read

author: Xcution12 time: 2014-9-21 17:21:01

Robenator replied at 2014-9-21 17:15
Oh lord, just post the proof in screenshots and let's get this over with instead of arguing through ...

ikr ive been trolling this lol jsut for something to do i was going to say this bbuuuuuutt u beat me to it

author: crimsonhydra time: 2014-9-21 17:22:16

ok seems since you want to call me out atleast read my post i never mentioned the event for i dont care about that.and what went on between you and tanaka i dont care either.yes i started the post i never denied it this was started so players had a way to speak up and find out how to do so about your poor attitude.seems im not the only one who was sick of how you insult people and abuse your power if you are a PGM.also as a former mod myself on another game for years i can say blocking players is frowned upon do to it prevents you from doing your "job" which is help players bc now you are unable to see questions from said players.i thank you Sakai Riku for the information on how to handle future issues there was nowhere posted that i could find on what to do it is really appreciated.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-21 19:48:39

Tarush replied at 2014-9-21 16:12
Everythingswrong,

In no way is the following meant to be a personal attack on anyone, it is not p ...

I guess I'm not seeing your view here. I see nothing wrong with giving it up to reset it, as I said most servers do it anyways. Now if they are bragging about it, just use the most handy feature in Bleach, the block button. Then you can enjoy the game in peace. There will always be difference in opinions in game, or how something should work but that's not what this is about.

Him letting a gate fall to reset stacks, is not a bad thing, but nor should he be bad mouthing others if this is the case (as I said, send screenshot evidence if that's the case). A lot of people consider giving up Seireitei a good thing. They consider it server preservation to let other have the buff every now and then, atleast that's what people think on my server. I've actually run into the oppossit, they bragged about taking it down when someone such as myself didn't show up on purpose to let them have it. I just ignore them. Anyways, as I said again, there will always be arguments and dissagreements, but if that line gets crossed over a game then again, screenshot the evidence and send it in.

author: mirmo92 time: 2014-9-27 16:35:55

Hello...
PGM at server 55 not online always...
please check back... dont call the pgm server 55 first go check first n you can see not online...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-27 17:21:35

mirmo92 replied at 2014-9-27 15:35
Hello...
PGM at server 55 not online always...
please check back... dont call the pgm server 55 firs ...

Most PGM's aren't active. Just e-mail support at [email protected] and let them know.

Please don't bump back up threads like this.

author: chamsdar time: 2014-9-27 18:55:28

Everythingswrong

you deserve an honor bro for keeping up with these people, the game should give you more.

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