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author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-9 17:56:54     Title: Who is better, Csb Aizen or Kirinji.

I am saving up challenges stones and I did plan to get csb Aizen, but now that I have Kirinji I am having second thoughts about getting him.  My formation is Krinji, tavern Urahara, Yama, Sajin and my main.  

author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2015-12-9 18:02:56

CSB aizen can be usefull in hollow maps, but everywhere else Tenjiro dominates with his ridicules speed and easy mods. Plus you already have tenjiro, which means you can get kenpatchi which will boost your PVE damage by whole lot. Unless you already have him, then maybe go for CSB aizen or white ichigo (Which will take a fucking while).
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-12-9 18:08:54

By Speed aspect alone, Kirinji

In overall aspect, CSB Aizen, he provides CC to everyone and even reduces their fury

BUT ofc this can be argued as Kirinji provides Chaos, to 2 enemies, which is just insane, and that speed alone makes him the fastest in the game (I believe? Or Oetsu is, whatever they are both faster than Hiki apparently xD)

My personal take would be to choose Kirinji as he deals 200% Damage, which is bound to kill at least 1 of his targets, whilst also igniting them for a pretty much ensured kill, whilst CSB Aizen is quite the chancy partner. Kirinji also provides 20% speed boost to other supporters, so pretty much an Oetsu speed mod! Which is an insane amount of speed! ^^
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-12-9 18:09:18

(Ignore my vote on the poll, was thinking ahead of myself)
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-9 18:10:56

Edited by criminal238 at 2015-12-9 18:11
AssassinwithRPG replied at 2015-12-9 18:02
CSB aizen can be usefull in hollow maps, but everywhere else Tenjiro dominates with his ridicules sp ...

Yea I was thinking of going for white Ichigo since there is nothing elese that I want in csb.  Shame it was not demon Ichigo, I really need a good vanguard and a shinso Gin for my team.  
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-9 18:15:27

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-9 18:08
By Speed aspect alone, Kirinji

In overall aspect, CSB Aizen, he provides CC to everyone and even re ...

Yea his speed is insane, I have to keep agility stones off him so his speed is below urahara's which does suck.  I really need to get a shinso Gin
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2015-12-9 18:19:36

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-9 23:10
Yea I was thinking of going for white Ichigo since there is nothing elese that I want in csb.  Sham ...

W.Ichi Ain't that bad, and they still prob want to make a load from D.I, maybe UBP in few months.
author: DeEmEn    time: 2015-12-9 18:25:25

Kirinji debuff alone is better than aizen. it's hard to get the aizen to speed up on par with other new red partners, so even if he deducts fury, someone else can be faster than him (like kirinji) and boost own support speed by 20% o.O which is asking for another debuff coming as long as the 2nd support is fast enough.
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-9 18:46:01

AssassinwithRPG replied at 2015-12-9 18:19
W.Ichi Ain't that bad, and they still prob want to make a load from D.I, maybe UBP in few months.

Man it would be nice to see him in ubp
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-9 18:46:32

DeEmEn replied at 2015-12-9 18:25
Kirinji debuff alone is better than aizen. it's hard to get the aizen to speed up on par with other  ...

Yea I am thinking now that it's better to stick with Kirinji.  
author: AssassinwithRPG    time: 2015-12-9 19:08:12

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-9 23:46
Man it would be nice to see him in ubp

#NeverGiveUpHope
#ThereIsAChance
#ButNotTooSoon
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-12-9 19:58:46

AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZEN
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-9 20:00:35

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-9 18:58
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIZEN

Nibbles? Is that you?! I haven't seen you around in a while. Thought you got ran over in the street. XD
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2015-12-9 20:04:38

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-9 20:00
Nibbles? Is that you?! I haven't seen you around in a while. Thought you got ran over in the stree ...

same could be said about you , like the new freaky look though..... lolzzz
author: Arrowx    time: 2015-12-9 20:13:19

I don't really like Kirinji to be honest, so I chose Aizen
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-9 20:14:05

RiadDahoe replied at 2015-12-9 19:04
same could be said about you , like the new freaky look though..... lolzzz

Yeah.  A artist did it for me. His name is Raeace. He is on the forums.

What's been happening Riad?
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2015-12-9 20:22:13

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-9 20:14
Yeah.  A artist did it for me. His name is Raeace. He is on the forums.

What's been happening Ri ...

All good here Ragnos..... i dont know if it's me, i just have a odd feeling we might have mergers soon....
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-9 20:45:15

RiadDahoe replied at 2015-12-9 19:22
All good here Ragnos..... i dont know if it's me, i just have a odd feeling we might have mergers  ...

Same here. Been a while since a merge.
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-12-10 02:19:15

CSB Aizen is more cool so I choose him. Kirinji is super lame tbh.
I make it a point to not use partners I hate.

author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 03:57:27

NNatsu replied at 2015-12-10 02:19
CSB Aizen is more cool so I choose him. Kirinji is super lame tbh.
I make it a point to not use part ...

Yea his water splash attack is a bit lame.
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2015-12-10 08:24:47

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 03:57
Yea his water splash attack is a bit lame.

well even if he would blow kisses or hearts ...... getting the win is very important imo hahahah
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 08:29:50

RiadDahoe replied at 2015-12-10 08:24
well even if he would blow kisses or hearts ...... getting the win is very important imo hahahah

Eh true enough.  He has been a great help since csb got merged and I managed to beat everyone for the first time in csb thanks to him.  
author: RiadDahoe    time: 2015-12-10 08:38:40

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 08:29
Eh true enough.  He has been a great help since csb got merged and I managed to beat everyone for  ...

awesome, wish i was not focused so much on Ishin which is t1 now, Kirinji would give way more speed...who knows, i might end up making kirinji t1 , and let ishin follow up...
author: grzesiekgabrile    time: 2015-12-10 08:42:33

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 08:29
Eh true enough.  He has been a great help since csb got merged and I managed to beat everyone for  ...

i have CSB and Kirinji
CSB is full evo and high lvl, but i use Kirinji
if you have lame enemy in arena or CSB use Aizen, but if enemy have more speed and this fcking Hikifune only Kirinji
Kirinji chaos skill is ok, but his ignite is epic
author: grzesiekgabrile    time: 2015-12-10 08:46:58

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 08:29
Eh true enough.  He has been a great help since csb got merged and I managed to beat everyone for  ...

ahh and one more, if you have option to take Ultima Aizen go for it
Ultima and kirinji do the job, CSB optional when you have some problem and need CC
CSB Aizen with Ultima that was wombo combo, but new supp have to much speed
author: kosmik    time: 2015-12-10 09:30:56

Tenjiro is currently fastest in game (aside from the main argument)  which is cute cause he CAN hit like a truck.  Heres the only issue with him, and a CSB aizen being T1, aizen 100% your getting fury reduction and a big boom on everyone + chance to stun.
Tenji - 2 big hits (hope you kill the right ones!) CHANCE to ignite, and a must chaos.  Summed up, Aizen may be slower but almost guaranteed effect (esp around evo11).  Tenji faster, hit harder, but a lot more random.  I had a point about pve and pvp, but eh, fk it you get the idea and such.
author: Sylencer90    time: 2015-12-10 09:33:05

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author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-12-10 10:55:14

Depends on who you pair Kirinji up with and how you plan to use him. If you are dependant on Kirinji to win you a fight then yes the fact that he is way to rng may cause you some disappointment.
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-10 10:58:20

If you don't mind, could you tell me your other noteworthy chars (SWP/CSB/Gold) and your Zanpakuto?


By default, Tenjiro is better because faster and making other sup faster as well.
author: TanakaAiri    time: 2015-12-10 11:05:24

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-10 10:58
If you don't mind, could you tell me your other noteworthy chars (SWP/CSB/Gold) and your Zanpakuto?
...

Were you referring to me? lol
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-10 11:22:49

TanakaAiri replied at 2015-12-10 11:05
Were you referring to me? lol

No, to the guy who made the thread.
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-10 11:26:28

So... white Ichigo CSB... overprice much?
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-12-10 12:30:00

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-10 11:26
So... white Ichigo CSB... overprice much?

lol pretty much
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-10 13:18:09

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-12-10 11:30
lol pretty much

Yeah the moment I saw it I was like... what...the...fuck gogames... ugh...
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-12-10 13:20:32

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-10 13:18
Yeah the moment I saw it I was like... what...the...fuck gogames... ugh...

well not really they are doing great job lately
author: Suzuken    time: 2015-12-10 13:23:16

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-10 21:18
Yeah the moment I saw it I was like... what...the...fuck gogames... ugh...

well, it's true W.ichigo is not the most perfect partner for CSB but he has 40% combo rate with is mods, damage reduction and + dmg for own team and he is AoE .. he isn't really bad even though he is really overpriced as you said , 8-10k for him would have been better cuz Aizen is pretty much as much valuable as him
author: shadarlo    time: 2015-12-10 15:18:49

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-10 13:18
Yeah the moment I saw it I was like... what...the...fuck gogames... ugh...

I can't imagine anyone would get him at 12k.  He's not even used by a lot of people who have him anymore.
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 16:56:44

grzesiekgabrile replied at 2015-12-10 08:46
ahh and one more, if you have option to take Ultima Aizen go for it
Ultima and kirinji do the job, ...

Yea I can't wait to get pure t1 for my team but that is gonna take a while, and I have a problem with my Yama, his ignite skill cancels out my krinji's ignite skill.  I might have to get rid of Yama down the line.  
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 17:02:49

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-10 10:58
If you don't mind, could you tell me your other noteworthy chars (SWP/CSB/Gold) and your Zanpakuto?
...

Shinigami Urahara, Shingami Yoruichi, I have no swp partners worth mentioning but I am saving up for swp Kenpachi and I almost have enough to get him.  I have no csb partners and I still use kazeshini sadly, my next step is getting a t1 shinso Gin to replace Urahara.
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 17:05:03

kosmik replied at 2015-12-10 09:30
Tenjiro is currently fastest in game (aside from the main argument)  which is cute cause he CAN hit  ...

Yea the rng can be a pain in the ass to depend on.  
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-10 17:37:34

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-12-10 12:20
well not really they are doing great job lately

Nah, I'm not saying they are entirely doing a bad job. They are doing about 8%  better IMO, but I wouldn't price that much for him.
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-10 17:57:44

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 17:02
Shinigami Urahara, Shingami Yoruichi, I have no swp partners worth mentioning but I am saving up f ...

For the small pocket, I'd suggest getting Hyorin from Ultra Hero, CSB Kenny, SWP Kenny and replacing Kisuke with SWP Nel.

But I'd advise against T1 shinso gin... his price tag is quite high and a fury-booster like that has no chance against a T1 hikifune/oetsu etc.
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-10 18:28:51

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-10 17:57
For the small pocket, I'd suggest getting Hyorin from Ultra Hero, CSB Kenny, SWP Kenny and replaci ...

I do get what you mean but shinso is temporary until I get a full pure t1 team.  I might get csb Kenny for pve.
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-11 05:58:32

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-10 18:28
I do get what you mean but shinso is temporary until I get a full pure t1 team.  I might get csb K ...

Are you getting Gin for contracts or so?

Because tbh, even I am not willing to pay that much for something temporary...
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-11 16:53:32

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-11 05:58
Are you getting Gin for contracts or so?

Because tbh, even I am not willing to pay that much for  ...

I will hire him until he appears in ubp,if he doesn't appear for a while then I will just buy him.  Pure t1 fury for three characters is gonna take me ages to get since I don't spend a big amount of money on this game, unless they add in another good way to get them like the reio event.
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-11 17:01:31

criminal238 replied at 2015-12-11 16:53
I will hire him until he appears in ubp,if he doesn't appear for a while then I will just buy him. ...

For PvP, you dont need many T1 chars, just 1 like hikifune/oetsu and you're going to win against a lot of people.
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-11 18:43:36

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-11 17:01
For PvP, you dont need many T1 chars, just 1 like hikifune/oetsu and you're going to win against a ...

True enough.  
author: Brutalix    time: 2015-12-12 00:20:12

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-11 17:01
For PvP, you dont need many T1 chars, just 1 like hikifune/oetsu and you're going to win against a ...

Jus wondering how u mean that with jus 1 T1 is enough to win against many teams without fury...arent your whole team just gonna hit only your opponents vg and not causing too much dmg?
author: Brutalix    time: 2015-12-12 00:41:31

I got another question abt Tenjiro I hope for your kind advices...I understand he is fastest n give speed to other supporters...but how does it really works? How much faster for other supporters are only limited to only as fast as Tenjiro speed or will they go beyond Tenjiro's speed  comes next round?

For example if you have  a fast Tenjiro n almost as fast Shin Gin...with Tenjiro going first n giving speed to Gin...come next round...will Gin speed boost go beyond Tenjiro n start ahead first instead of Tenjiro?
author: I_MIKE_I    time: 2015-12-12 04:26:35

Brutalix replied at 2015-12-12 00:20
Jus wondering how u mean that with jus 1 T1 is enough to win against many teams without fury...are ...

A T1 hikifune/oetsu will throw the enemies from T1 (if they even have a T1) and even some from T2... and most importantly, they'll kill most of the enemy team right away.
author: Brutalix    time: 2015-12-12 07:50:03

I_MIKE_I replied at 2015-12-12 04:26
A T1 hikifune/oetsu will throw the enemies from T1 (if they even have a T1) and even some from T2. ...

But even if the enemies doesnt have T1 anymore, how would you be able to kill MOST of their enemies with only your sole T1 Hiki or Oetsu when your rest of the team only hitting their vg without skill from fury?

Unless you are saying a T1 Hiki/Oetsu alone is so OP that just their one AOE hit can wipe out an entire enemies' Assault n Supporter lines regardless how resilient or stacked in just one round?? I could be wrong but last i understand, kido characters doesnt really does much dmg against opposite kido characters, let alone against a similar Red characters like Tenjiro or Oetsu if your enemy has them as well?
author: criminal238    time: 2015-12-12 10:16:32

Brutalix replied at 2015-12-12 07:50
But even if the enemies doesnt have T1 anymore, how would you be able to kill MOST of their enemie ...

A t1 Hiki would take away their fury and grant your team invincibility for one round, this means the other side can't skill until the third round.
author: Minimmoi    time: 2015-12-12 12:12:13

a noob question: what chaos debuff does?
author: Raeace    time: 2015-12-12 12:17:16

Minimmoi replied at 2015-12-12 19:12
a noob question: what chaos debuff does?

Chaos itself makes the chaosed partner/main to do normal attack to own open line, vanguard, assaults or supports if 2 first lines are dead.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-12-12 14:19:22

Minimmoi replied at 2015-12-12 12:12
a noob question: what chaos debuff does?

enemies affected by chaos will do normal attk to own vanguard instead of attk or skill you.
author: asunayuki    time: 2015-12-12 18:23:21

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-10 01:08
By Speed aspect alone, Kirinji

In overall aspect, CSB Aizen, he provides CC to everyone and even re ...

You surprise me, when i forget that you talk in all caps all the time i start even considering that you are a intelligent human being
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-12-12 18:26:44

Edited by sirnibbles at 2015-12-12 18:32
asunayuki replied at 2015-12-12 18:23
You surprise me, when i forget that you talk in all caps all the time i start even considering tha ...
you are a intelligent human being




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author: asunayuki    time: 2015-12-12 18:29:33

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-13 01:26

That's called ''sickburn''
author: asunayuki    time: 2015-12-12 18:30:30

sirnibbles replied at 2015-12-13 01:26


author: TooGoodToBeTrue    time: 2015-12-12 18:45:49

Hitman Reborn is the best anime ever. Especially the little cat/lion Natsu.
author: NNatsu    time: 2015-12-12 18:49:05

                                                                                       
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-12-12 19:12:17

asunayuki replied at 2015-12-12 23:23
You surprise me, when i forget that you talk in all caps all the time i start even considering tha ...

HEY

That's Seiryu not me

I only caps if there is a cunt like Nibs
author: sirnibbles    time: 2015-12-12 19:39:21

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-12 19:12
HEY

That's Seiryu not me

WOW

k guess i had that coming for my last comment on this thread



i luv natsu

author: asunayuki    time: 2015-12-13 04:49:18

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-13 02:12
HEY

That's Seiryu not me

Yeah i know he's such an asshole
author: SeiryuSky    time: 2015-12-13 05:03:49

asunayuki replied at 2015-12-13 04:49
Yeah i know he's such an asshole

#F*** IT

#F*** YOU ALVA
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author: asunayuki    time: 2015-12-13 05:27:13

SeiryuSky replied at 2015-12-13 12:03
#F*** IT

#F*** YOU ALVA

He's Aizen so it makes sense in a way...
author: theunknown404    time: 2015-12-13 23:12:49

I only intend to use CSB Aizen in PVE, especially King of Hollow Souls. That's where he's truly useful atm.
author: badbone    time: 2015-12-14 17:59:11

Kirinji is better but if you have yamamoto better get Aizen
and buff him with 20% speed from kirinji.It will be way faster than white this way.
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-12-14 17:59:57

Ermmm ,who is ALVA? he is in my CSB....
author: HellDestroy1010    time: 2015-12-14 22:17:35

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-9 20:00
Nibbles? Is that you?! I haven't seen you around in a while. Thought you got ran over in the stree ...

is that you ragnos? Remember me Mattrat who does the math for zanpakuto growth rates. Sadly i was hacked again lol :p
author: bwg2469    time: 2015-12-14 22:18:02

[email protected] replied at 2015-12-14 14:59
Ermmm ,who is ALVA? he is in my CSB....

That fucker with a bunch of numbers for a name here on the forums
author: badbone    time: 2015-12-15 06:59:50

HellDestroy1010 replied at 2015-12-14 22:17
is that you ragnos? Remember me Mattrat who does the math for zanpakuto growth rates. Sadly i was  ...


author: [email protected]    time: 2015-12-15 08:48:16

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-14 22:18
That fucker with a bunch of numbers for a name here on the forums

oh i saw him somewhere xP
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-15 09:17:28

HellDestroy1010 replied at 2015-12-14 21:17
is that you ragnos? Remember me Mattrat who does the math for zanpakuto growth rates. Sadly i was  ...

Stop getting hacked!
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-12-15 14:29:12

HellDestroy1010 replied at 2015-12-14 22:17
is that you ragnos? Remember me Mattrat who does the math for zanpakuto growth rates. Sadly i was  ...

THE HECK THAT'S REALLY YOU ?XD
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-12-16 10:44:52

bwg2469 replied at 2015-12-15 03:18
That fucker with a bunch of numbers for a name here on the forums

Ah yeah

The pre cunt

author: [email protected]    time: 2015-12-16 11:57:53

Zento-Hazashi replied at 2015-12-16 10:44
Ah yeah

The pre cunt

#the rangiku cunt

#f*** you alva
author: Zento-Hazashi    time: 2015-12-16 13:20:02

[email protected] replied at 2015-12-16 16:57
#the rangiku cunt

#f*** you alva

That counts too

I can't really say that second hashtag anymore :/
author: HellDestroy1010    time: 2015-12-16 19:59:28

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-15 09:17
Stop getting hacked!

Lol i know sorry xd any math for me to do? i hope i dont lol
author: Ragnos    time: 2015-12-16 21:13:04

HellDestroy1010 replied at 2015-12-16 18:59
Lol i know sorry xd any math for me to do? i hope i dont lol

XD, no I think our math doing days are done. Mainly since they released OP Shuhei.

Makes all the Partner Suggestions I made look weak.
author: HellDestroy1010    time: 2015-12-16 21:17:32

Ragnos replied at 2015-12-16 21:13
XD, no I think our math doing days are done. Mainly since they released OP Shuhei.

Makes all the  ...

Lol well make any partner suggestion yet?




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