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author: Muzare    time: 2014-9-25 11:14:52     Title: SKILL



author: Muzare    time: 2014-9-25 11:15:41

WHICH IS BETTER.....nd WHY ???
author: deffenders098    time: 2014-9-25 11:18:57

Muzare replied at 2014-9-25 10:15
WHICH IS BETTER.....nd WHY ???

It depends on what ur doing are u asking for what skill is better for events? or just overall?

author: rubexcube666    time: 2014-9-25 12:40:13

I use Roaring flames in PVP. Then I use Conflagration in PvE, for spirits and for ryoka.

Well now I use Skill 9 for the 15% boost.
author: Unholyknight    time: 2014-9-25 17:38:38

seeing as your using the names of the Ghost Blade skills (Spirit and Kido uses different names) the best skills are Incinerate (unless you have Renji) for PVE and Destroy the World for PVP
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-26 07:23:41

Unholyknight replied at 2014-9-26 08:38
seeing as your using the names of the Ghost Blade skills (Spirit and Kido uses different names) the  ...

I think he was meaning to ask specifically for his character.

but as said above by other people it depends on what you want it for. and later on in the game for example PVP you will need to change it between fights so you have an edge.
author: deathzorkas    time: 2014-9-27 11:34:06

it depends on the skill u use depending on what partners opponent uses no skill are the best
author: Muzare    time: 2014-9-27 13:35:41

I WAS JUST ASKING YOUR OPINIONS
to take a perdect decision.....
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-27 16:05:28

Muzare replied at 2014-9-27 12:35
I WAS JUST ASKING YOUR OPINIONS
to take a perdect decision.....

Depends on the situation before you get 10th skill...once you have it you always use it except for PvE events you'd use 9th skill.
author: deathzorkas    time: 2014-9-27 19:17:05

i agree with sakai

author: streetking    time: 2014-9-29 08:48:02

Muzare replied at 2014-9-25 10:15
WHICH IS BETTER.....nd WHY ???

it all depend on what u doing n what kindda formation u have.. if u don't have or don't want to use ichigo,lisa n momo  for ur pvp it better use CONFLAGRATION the 5th skill... or else use ERRODING FLAMES it better then ROARING FLAMES..
author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-9-29 08:57:26

That's like asking "Which vehicle is better: a tractor, a racecar, or a boat?"
How does anyone answer that? Are you using it on a farm, a competitive racetrack, or an ocean?

author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-9-29 09:15:20

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-27 15:05
Depends on the situation before you get 10th skill...once you have it you always use it except for ...

I've actually been getting better results from the 8th skill, personally.
author: streetking    time: 2014-9-29 11:29:00

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-9-29 08:15
I've actually been getting better results from the 8th skill, personally.

nuh it is depend on ur luck ofc. it not like u got combo every round. yes when the combo proc it is way better then 9th skill.. but if want constant output go for 9th skill
author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-9-29 11:42:02

streetking replied at 2014-9-29 10:29
nuh it is depend on ur luck ofc. it not like u got combo every round. yes when the combo proc it i ...

But... I get 100% combo after every other round. It's guaranteed, there's no luck to that. There is luck, however, in my Ikkakku critting, and in my Rukia and Kisuke's fury boosts critting plus Ikkakku's natural fury regain. I don't feel like mathing it out, but my Ikkakku can use his 260% skill ridiculously more in a fight than he could otherwise; that trumps a little 15% bonus. Potentially, if at least two of the three fury boosts crit on Ikkakku every turn, he can use his skill every single turn in a fight. Plus I use the combo skill twice as often if not more on top of that, further increasing the number of Ikkakku's attacks and skill uses.



Still a far ways off from that 85% title, sadly...
author: streetking    time: 2014-9-29 11:49:29

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-9-29 10:42
But... I get 100% combo after every other round. It's guaranteed, there's no luck to that. There is ...

yes u might have a point there, it be better if main can skill every single round, but u need some boots of fury stone ofc, the best to do is try n error right... we all have different build..
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-9-29 13:41:41

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-9-29 10:42
But... I get 100% combo after every other round. It's guaranteed, there's no luck to that. There is ...

I can get the 85% title if nobody else would attack the spirit :/ I get 3.5% per attack, get up to about 75% when it dies, the other 7 people or so combined to do the other 25% with about 10 min left in event.
Anyhow my experience in the matter is 8th skill doesn't do anywhere near the dmg I do when using 9th skill, does maybe half as much dmg for me. *shrugs*

author: chamsdar    time: 2014-9-30 08:51:02

i would say save all your points for the 9th and 10th only and maybe the 5th one (i needed it to kill the first Espada 2 challenge, the one heal himself)

and i use the 10th skill for Protect/AW/GW/Arena/Trail/Palace and im trying to max it out (lvl 23 now)
9th only for ES/royka
author: yoeystoned    time: 2014-10-1 05:57:02

Does anyone know if Renji's 20% attack ability stacks with your mains skill 9 15% bonus and Kazeshini's attack bonus?
author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-10-3 09:31:40

Edited by MisterMusashi at 2014-10-3 08:37

I get somewhere around and over 2.2% per attack. I've recently started making my main with the 8th skill slower than my Kisuke (possibly Rukia, too) trying to work out the best way to maximize my skill uses for both my main and Ikkakku with adjustments made to account for not getting as many crits and fury boost crits. With the Triple Crown Champion title my Ikkakku gets about over 71% crit, so even if Kisuke, Rukia, and his own fury boosts don't crit enough to have him use his skill every turn, with 2 attacks every other turn and getting basic attack crits + super damage skill crits, my damage is highest with 8th.
Even when I manage to get Ikkakku slower than my main to use 9th skill before him in a turn the number of attacks and skill uses I get decimates my overall damage output. When I judge my damage output based on silver gained per attack (since my % drops every time we defeat the spirit and the actual damage is hard to keep track of), lately I'd get about 320-330k from 9th skill, 350-365k  for a low output 8th skill attack, and on high output/lucky attacks I get 380k-410k silver.
My 8th skill is Lv.15 and my 9th is Lv.10, by the way. 10th skill is Lv.26.

The following are some screenshots of when I got the Extreme Battle Power title... it is slightly misleading, though. I, uh... I maxed out the Atk%/Crit% bonus and revived... a lot. (Due to server dying, the other top players in Shinigami not being present that day for event, and my guildie stopping from attacking midway through to make sure I could get enough damage I barely scraped by. My coupons will be fondly remembered for their sacrifice...)


(Note: The attack order and BP in the 3rd picture are heavily inaccurate.)
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-3 18:22:03

MisterMusashi replied at 2014-10-3 08:31
I get somewhere around and over 2.2% per attack. I've recently started making my main with the 8th s ...

Oh I got the title several days ago just normally, didn't have a bunch of ppl show up on Shini to spoil it this time, though one was trying to death revive to spoil it at end, so I had to use a few. I used 9th skill cause the damage with 8th it just far to low.

author: MisterMusashi    time: 2014-10-6 08:29:48

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-3 17:22
Oh I got the title several days ago just normally, didn't have a bunch of ppl show up on Shini to  ...

What's yer setup, mate? Like, your team comp, attack order, and equipment setup? Since I give Ikkakku my absolute best gear, having him attack twice (essentially a 100% boost, wouldn't ya say?) far outweighs a 15% attack boost for him, Renji (with weak vanguard gear from my Komamura) and myself. I don't need my main and Renji to deal damage -- they have practically none to even boost in comparison. My Ikkakku, though -- he gets the work of 4 or 5 Assaulters done. (Still waiting for that event Renji, though...)
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-6 09:42:47

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-6 08:45
MisterMusashi replied at 2014-10-6 07:29
What's yer setup, mate? Like, your team comp, attack order, and equipment setup? Since I give Ikka ...

Rukia/Urahara supports, and Main/Ikkaku/Kenpachi assaulters. I don't switch gear out, my main hits for a ton, as his phy atk is about 108k so I just keep it on him, my ikkaku's gear is lvl 90 spirit forged stuff, his phy atk is like 80k, and kenpachi is in my vg's gear, and he still hits like a truck. I got 90% crit on main, 84% on Ikkaku, they just do a ton of dmg, as does Kenpachi. ATM on evil spirit I'm doing almost 9 million dmg no buffs per battle.
author: lordbooo    time: 2014-10-7 21:40:13

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-6 08:42
Rukia/Urahara supports, and Main/Ikkaku/Kenpachi assaulters. I don't switch gear out, my main hits  ...

I use the same people also, i'm in the 9-10mil damage on evil spirit, no buff. And for ryoka i haven't found my max.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-7 21:49:20

lordbooo replied at 2014-10-7 20:40
I use the same people also, i'm in the 9-10mil damage on evil spirit, no buff. And for ryoka i hav ...

That's about same, I do around 10m now (mains dmg is about 114k phy dmg) so your's is pretty impressive to.
author: Leitzur    time: 2014-12-13 12:18:18

guys, what is your 9th skill lv ?
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-12-23 10:07:45

Leitzur replied at 2014-12-13 11:18
guys, what is your 9th skill lv ?


ermmm i think its lvl 23 or 24...


author: adventurethis    time: 2015-1-18 05:38:06

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-8 10:49
That's about same, I do around 10m now (mains dmg is about 114k phy dmg) so your's is pretty impre ...

10th skill is the best hands down for pvp

for pve the choices of 9th and 8th skill vary depending on your setup.

with sogyo and dark rukia in my pve team the 9th skill would simply be overwritten so its not worth it. add the fact that i have iishin i can then chain quite a few attacks with 8th skill. i still would say even if someone is f2p they would do better with 8th skill, since 3 assaulter's (if you use that formation) with 15% more damage is still going to be lower than getting an extra turn off on your assaulter's, someone would need to crunch the numbers to find out
author: llKhiz    time: 2015-4-27 15:39:13

This thread got me wondering whether keeping your vanguard in would be the better option rather than kisuke and rukia in ES and Ryoka?
author: [email protected]    time: 2015-5-17 12:54:34

It all depends on your formation, which zanpakuto you use, and what partners you use.

Some skills will help maxumise your zanpakuto skill effects and other skills will help maxumise your partner skill effects

author: pavan93    time: 2015-6-14 22:42:35

Muzare replied at 2014-9-27 13:35
I WAS JUST ASKING YOUR OPINIONS
to take a perdect decision.....

go with erroding flames
author: uwannadonkey    time: 2015-11-25 17:33:56

id argue that if you have a team setup in a certain way, skill 8 may be better.  and when I say certain way, similar to how i have it built up.  I control my teams speed and put shinigami kensei as faster then my main, so when my main gives extra combo round, it would go back to kensei, who always skills.  This works with any partner that recovers full fury every time, plus lets you have the team member skill 2 times in any round where your main skills.  As it stands, 8 gets me the most dmg
author: pablosays    time: 2016-5-8 12:44:36

deffenders098 replied at 2014-9-25 11:18
It depends on what ur doing are u asking for what skill is better for events? or just overall?

yo i am server 1 and my name is bankai

author: pablosays    time: 2016-5-8 12:45:58

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-27 16:05
Depends on the situation before you get 10th skill...once you have it you always use it except for ...

i agree wid u




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