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author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 01:14:53 Title: Unohana Vs Kenpachi

Who should i get first when i reached lvl 90 Tavern. Currently have 2000 gold reshi saved up and about to hit Lvl 90.
My PVP formation is: Momo, Urahara>Kido Main, Byakuya>Sajin Koma
My PVE formation is: Rukia, Urahara>Kido Main, Byakuya>Sajin Koma

Should i just get Kenpachi first to get thru a couple stages of King of hollows and use kenpachi to make the silver and recruit Unohana later?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-9-29 01:28:43

i am at lvl 89 now. will be lvl 90 i think by tmrw latest...

well for PVP i am using sajin. ikka . yorui . kisuke . main.

PVE . i am using ikka . renji . rukia . kisuke . main.

sigh... i am golden reishi broke... onli hav 700 now... still need 500 more to get my first lvl 90

but i think i ll get kenpachi first... so tht i can earn more in PVE ... n then hav more silvers to jahken uno soonest possible...

thts for me... coz i dun realli know wats uno for besides pvp... n i still cant beat baragan hollow tower... n also toshiro 10th seretei...

other than tht.. i am doin ok i guess...

author: rfreak time: 2014-9-29 03:04:40

Hmm, well correct me if am wrong, but i think Unohana will be better for high Vip's.. Given that mostly all the strong players will have unlocked the last skill, she'll get 1 shot anyway.. Not to mention those who have Byakuya

So as usual it'll all come down to who's faster & high Vip's will win that one!
Personally am goin' for Kenpachi or Barragan [Don't hear people talkin' abt him much

].. More PvE damage & helpful with Espada's...

S6
Zaraki / Lvl 80
B.P:- 280k

author: navisterva time: 2014-9-29 08:09:23

Normally if you are running 1-2-2 then get Unohana

If using a 1-3-1 like me then get Kenpachi

author: everflames time: 2014-9-29 08:19:42

Edited by everflames at 2014-9-29 13:21

I actually want to know this as well. I'll be level 90 in around 3 days, I have 1500 gold reishi and my current setup is 1-2-2 (Sajin, Main, Ikkaku, Yoruichi, Harribel/Inoue). But I really want Kenpachi to finish my PvE formation 0-3-2 (Main, Ikkaku, Kenpachi, Urahara, Rukia).

I'm leaning more toward Kenpachi because in PvP right now I can one shot the top 7 players with Galaxy Explosion which means Unohana would not get a chance to heal anyway. Hopefully we can come to a consensus.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 14:31:31

rfreak replied at 2014-9-29 03:04
Hmm, well correct me if am wrong, but i think Unohana will be better for high Vip's.. Given that mos ...

what do you mean by high vip players? is there certain stones required to make unnohana powerful? Im a Vip 4 but my lvl 5 stones are almost completed moving to lvl 6 but im holding that back and working on Break def and crit. I know that unnohana needs to be fast, maybe faster then my main to even use her skill.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 14:34:25

PAOFUI replied at 2014-9-29 01:28
i am at lvl 89 now. will be lvl 90 i think by tmrw latest...

well for PVP i am using sajin. ikka ...

What stages are you on in Toshiro Sereitei? Are you a High Vip player?

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-9-29 18:26:18

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 13:34
What stages are you on in Toshiro Sereitei? Are you a High Vip player?

i am on 30/30 hitting Toshiro now n still get rapes by his team . bcoz they start off wit a 100% fury.

i am just a noob vip. not high vip. will be lvl 90 in after ryoka i think. then i ll try to get 500 gold rei more
n get kenpachi... maybe then i can beat toshiro team...

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 21:21:35

PAOFUI replied at 2014-9-29 18:26
i am on 30/30 hitting Toshiro now n still get rapes by his team . bcoz they start off wit a 100% ...

A high VIP player at my server with over 420kBP having formation of Unnohana,Kenpachi,Kido Main, Ikkaku, Koma couldnt even get pass the 30th lvl of that sereitei.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-9-29 22:02:54

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 20:21
A high VIP player at my server with over 420kBP having formation of Unnohana,Kenpachi,Kido Main, I ...

omg... like tht i ll stand no chance winning Toshiro team... i dont even have unohana ... need another 1500
golden rei... n my bp not even near 400k

hics... noob i am ... it ll take me like lv95 to win him i think...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-29 22:05:08

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 20:21
A high VIP player at my server with over 420kBP having formation of Unnohana,Kenpachi,Kido Main, I ...

Wait till you get to palace 9 and they start stunning your entire party.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 22:19:51

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-29 22:05
Wait till you get to palace 9 and they start stunning your entire party.

Thats why 100% fury survives or high vip players survive.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-29 22:22:02

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 21:19
Thats why 100% fury survives or high vip players survive.

High VIP 9/10 will survive it fine, if they built their entire party right. You can't be a 100% fury user who stacked their mains and rest of your party has lvl 4 stones ect and do well past that palace. That's how most 100% fury users are. Stacked mains, rest of the party is weak as hell.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 22:36:00

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-29 22:22
High VIP 9/10 will survive it fine, if they built their entire party right. You can't be a 100% fu ...

are you having any trouble getting pass any of the stages in the seretei division?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-29 22:40:13

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 21:36
are you having any trouble getting pass any of the stages in the seretei division?

Not really.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-29 22:47:15

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-29 21:47
Of Course, cuz your OP. But at lvl 90 tho, who do you recommend recruiting first if your a low Vip ...

If you want to focus on PvE events Kenpachi, if you want to focus on PvP and PvE like trials/palace/espada Unohana.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-29 22:47:16

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-29 22:40
Not really.

Of Course, cuz your OP. But at lvl 90 tho, who do you recommend recruiting first if your a low Vip player. Kenpachi, or Unnohana?

author: TenzinNima time: 2014-9-30 04:57:24

kenpachi .........

author: adventurethis time: 2014-9-30 05:06:56

[email protected] replied at 2014-9-29 21:05
Wait till you get to palace 9 and they start stunning your entire party.

Just a thought on Unohana for PvP

at the moment I am ranked 2nd on server...im far from the 1st guy but number 3 isn't that far behind. When I use my 10th skill only his main is left with low health. When he uses his 10th skill maybe 1 of my support are dead and the rest is 50% or so.

Basically even if the battle lasted so we can use our skills again I would not be able to survive his 10th skill a second time unless Unohana is strong enough to heal all my characters to full.

So my question is: is unohana really worth it for pvp in my current situation..unless she can heal everyone to full my team would die on my opponents 2nd special attack anyway so any heals would actually be a waste. does she heal for that much?

author: [email protected] time: 2014-9-30 05:09:46

adventurethis replied at 2014-9-30 04:06
Just a thought on Unohana for PvP

at the moment I am ranked 2nd on server...im far from the 1st g ...

With high Wisdom/Crit she heals for a lot. She won't take you from 10% to full HP though even with a crit, maybe like 70-75% HP from 10%.

author: nieverland time: 2014-9-30 10:33:06

I got Kempachi 3 days ago when i reach lv90 and he help me to get more silver income, so i got like 850g reishi in 3 days even when i dont have urahara, so yeah recruiting Kempachi then Unohana is a good option

author: gonzalo117 time: 2014-9-30 10:57:17

kenpachi obiusly because you can get more silver in events and more dmg lol pvp good too to kill vanguards

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-30 17:30:34

adventurethis replied at 2014-9-30 05:06
Just a thought on Unohana for PvP

at the moment I am ranked 2nd on server...im far from the 1st g ...

Yes unnhonan is really really worth it. If you build her with the highest speed of all your char, she can heal you after your opponent use the 10 skill on you. She heals both vanguard and as.sulters which is a big advantage for facing those 10 skill users.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-30 17:34:39

nieverland replied at 2014-9-30 10:33
I got Kempachi 3 days ago when i reach lv90 and he help me to get more silver income, so i got like ...

Guessing from your Point of View, your a high Vip player and top of your server. Cuz low Vip player like me cant manage to obtain enough amount of silver to make 850 reshi in 3 days even with kenpachi cuz the top of my silver doesnt spare any Ryoka for us to kill. He can 1 hit the ryoka to Wave 19 or 20 and even after that, he has those eagle eyes.

author: nieverland time: 2014-9-30 19:27:08

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-30 16:34
Guessing from your Point of View, your a high Vip player and top of your server. Cuz low Vip playe ...

Well..........no

im Vip4 and 3rd place at my serv and yeah we have 1 guy can 1 shoot at like 12 wave isnt much but he get most of the kills abecause he snipe all the time and i cant do a lot of dmg only 2.8mill average per att, but if you snipe some kills and with luck thats like 4 to 6mill per ryoka and like 7mill at ES and lv90 auto have better win rate than lv80 i got like 25 reishi average at 10x auto try

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-30 19:29:36

nieverland replied at 2014-9-30 19:27
Well..........no im Vip4 and 3rd place at my serv and yeah we have 1 guy can 1 shoot at like 12 ...

Im not 90 yet running Byakuya, main, rukia, urahara, and koma and i strike about 3mil at the ryoka. At lvl 9o, do they give out more reshi or is it the same portion

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-9-30 19:54:38

ermm... wanna ask. about kenpachi being in main team to replace ikka

as for pve my setting would b... main . ikka . kenp . rukia . kisuke .

but for pvp ? main . sajin . kenp . yorui . kisuke ?

what about espadas n sereitei beating tht toshiro team on 30th floor ?

any advice on tht ? i still have yet to get uno... need 3 - 5 days i think on jahken

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-9-30 20:12:11

Edited by tommymac009 at 2014-9-30 20:23

PAOFUI replied at 2014-9-30 19:54
ermm... wanna ask. about kenpachi being in main team to replace ikka

as for pve my setting would ...

I heard that Ikkaku is better then Kenpachi in PVP. But in Espada, sereitei and trials, people tend to use kenpachi because of his Growthrate and his Block ability. Another reason is if you equip him with the same equip as your ikkaku, his hit rate and crit might be higher then Ikkaku because hes a 90 char. But i Might recomend getting unohana too if you want to pass espada #2 cuz i heard she'll help you surivive

author: nieverland time: 2014-9-30 20:12:44

tommymac009 replied at 2014-9-30 18:29
Im not 90 yet running Byakuya, main, rukia, urahara, and koma and i strike about 3mil at the ryoka ...

i dont have urahara but yeh i think the win rate at lv90 is better

author: Shiba_Isshin time: 2014-10-1 01:10:05

lol hatin' on Gao for sniping when you do the same thing

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-1 01:16:36

Shiba_Isshin replied at 2014-10-1 01:10
lol hatin' on Gao for sniping when you do the same thing

its not hatin on them, its just a little irritating that there names pop up every 2 second on the system annoucement screen. Even when I snipe some down, i feel more irritated receiving chest knowing that a really rare opening.

author: nieverland time: 2014-10-1 01:46:35

Edited by nieverland at 2014-10-1 00:49

Shiba_Isshin replied at 2014-10-1 00:10
lol hatin' on Gao for sniping when you do the same thing

sometimes i think you and Ban are the same guy, anyway but if you look at the # of kills and how much time he wait to get the kills its a lot diferent, anyway the # of kills all the other players got when Ban isnt online at ryoka is more than double and after some point i only att after countdown or kill cd and Ban can wait 2 or 3 mins to get the kills and you cant say im wrong

btw: i dont hate Ban but i think he play like a child most of times

author: TenzinNima time: 2014-10-1 05:11:10

i recomand Retsu Unnohana

author: chamsdar time: 2014-10-1 10:48:44

i would go with Unnohana based on you still get the damage and you will survive PVE events.
where Kenpachi will useful in ES event and Espada 2
that's just my opinion and i might be wrong

author: Shiba_Isshin time: 2014-10-1 17:49:34

nieverland replied at 2014-10-1 01:46
sometimes i think you and Ban are the same guy, anyway but if you look at the # of kills and how mu ...

I was only joking around.. but maybe you didnt catch that..

lol we're certainly not the same person.. he can one shot a lot of them now.. he doesn't even have to snipe.. he just has to hit one..lol

I hate the announcements in general and think you should be able to mute them altogether, but that's another losing fight to have in another thread..lol

If Gao isn't on you get like 80% of the kills.. so it's no different really.. I'd honestly rather him kill every single one to ensure a clan win, if i can't kill them because a lot of times the timing is bs.. then i'd rather get the bonus for the clan win..

How does he play like a child exactly?

author: nieverland time: 2014-10-1 18:19:47

Shiba_Isshin replied at 2014-10-1 16:49
I was only joking around.. but maybe you didnt catch that..

lol we're certainly not the same pers ...

not really because sometimes i left 6 to 8 waves and only att after the countdown but i got some luck kills even w/o move, well he can 1 shoot only if his assaulters crit after wave 8 - 10 so isnt a sure one shoot i saw him fail even in wave 6 2 days ago so he isnt a one shooter like the real top players

because they can one shoot till wave 20 + maybe more, US-10 guys can go till wave 43 and btw after wave lets say 25-30 ryoka hit hard so you need van again and dmg low, more if you use an van with low att

author: TenzinNima time: 2014-10-2 07:24:53

kenpachi.......

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-10-3 09:30:21

i think my plan went well...

i choose kenpachi first... n then 1 n half days later i got my unohana...

n now i can beat tht toshiro team on sereitei palace...

still cant beat baragan 2nd goons...

tried givin my gears to kenpachi but still couldnt work...

anyone got tips on how to beat baragans 2nd team ?

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-3 11:50:23

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-3 09:30
i think my plan went well...

i choose kenpachi first... n then 1 n half days later i got my unoha ...

raise your BP equipment i guess. Weeks ago, most spenders have trouble beating him when they're at 400-500BP. I think You might need to raise kenpachi hitrate up pretty high in order to hit barragan at best.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-10-4 03:55:17

around what BP n formation can kill baragan 2nd team.

and wat kind BP for baragan final ?

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-4 04:55:01

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-4 03:55
around what BP n formation can kill baragan 2nd team.

and wat kind BP for baragan final ?

I mean out of most of the servers in this game, only the super vip players were able to defeat barragan. from what ive seen thru fourm, about 400k-500kBP. But really BP doesnt matter, just matter how you build your char. If its to hard, don't sweat it, your doing this way to early then your suppose too. Barragan teams is about lvl 100, so its a little too early to hope and kill him.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-4 06:29:47

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-4 02:55
around what BP n formation can kill baragan 2nd team.

and wat kind BP for baragan final ?

Around 500k I think. Give or take 50k.

author: jimmyoz time: 2014-10-4 12:31:02

Its best to get kenpachi first because using him in pve for events gives more silver which means you will be able to get unohana even faster from tavern this way.

author: Leitzur time: 2014-10-4 12:56:46

which is more worth to recruit for f2p? I do understand high vips tend to dominate the ryoka event and get all the kills. I'm afraid that getting him without getting back more money would make investments go wasted. but then again, if I recruit unohana while her stones are not godly enough will make her useless because she will die of enemy's area skill (pvp and pve). so confused..

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-4 16:02:26

f2p is kenpachi. Try not to depend on ryoka for kills if your a F2P player cuz what you said is absolutely correct. Kenpachi is best use at Evil spirit for you to get more silver if your a F2P and PVE style player.

author: tommymac009 time: 2014-10-4 16:07:46

jimmyoz replied at 2014-10-4 12:31
Its best to get kenpachi first because using him in pve for events gives more silver which means you ...

I know kenpachi helps in PVE but my situation, i can only make it to Evil Spirit twice a week if im lucky. For Ryoka, the top dog in my server tend to get 90% of the kill leaving the other 29-30 people with nothing cuz he can 1 hit ryoka a lot since the triple crown title and the achievement of zambimaru.

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-10-5 10:42:26

tommymac009 replied at 2014-10-4 15:07
I know kenpachi helps in PVE but my situation, i can only make it to Evil Spirit twice a week if i ...

f2p or not... kenpachi first... try ur best to attend spirit n ryoka...

even if ryoka u cant kill... it doesnt matter... u still can hope for a snipe... or just hit watever ryoka
that comes runnin to u... n wit some luck u might get a kill or 2 ...

i ve seen others who gets kills from ryoka... n doesnt mean vips get all the kills they get
heck loads of silver... its random... sometimes its a heck load of epicness... or stones... or souls...

there will be some point ur vips cant 1 shot it... so it will open up a gap for u to snipe n kill it if u r
fast n lucky...

author: PAOFUI time: 2014-10-5 10:44:56

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-4 05:29
Around 500k I think. Give or take 50k.

ok... thanx thanx... but any tips on the formation... zank use... skill use ? n etc...

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-5 20:54:22

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-5 09:44
ok... thanx thanx... but any tips on the formation... zank use... skill use ? n etc...

I used 10th skill and Kazeshini, though Zabimaru would probably be better. I used a 1/2/2 formation.

author: chamsdar time: 2014-10-5 21:12:01

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-5 19:54
I used 10th skill and Kazeshini, though Zabimaru would probably be better. I used a 1/2/2 formatio ...

can you show us most resent fight with that formation? please

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-5 21:15:10

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-5 20:12
can you show us most resent fight with that formation? please

Umm, maybe later, i got a few fights on here somewhere linked...

author: chamsdar time: 2014-10-5 22:55:33

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-5 20:15
Umm, maybe later, i got a few fights on here somewhere linked...

ill wait
thank you

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-5 23:09:27

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-5 21:55
ill wait
thank you

There is really no special to see...I kill people in round 1, first attack of round 2. It's just a 1/2/2 formation that almost everyone uses. Nothing special.

author: chamsdar time: 2014-10-5 23:24:49

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-5 22:09
There is really no special to see...I kill people in round 1, first attack of round 2. It's just a ...

which support you use? in events.

author: [email protected] time: 2014-10-5 23:36:00

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-5 22:24
which support you use? in events.

Think I've said 100 times I use Rukia/Urahara support in PvE lol...Main/Kenpachi/Ikkaku assaulters.

When I hit 110 my final PvE team will be Rukia/Urahara Main/Kenpachi/Ishida

author: Brahmastra time: 2014-10-9 16:31:34

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-5 22:36
Think I've said 100 times I use Rukia/Urahara support in PvE lol...Main/Kenpachi/Ikkaku assaulters ...

Would you say Ikkaku is better than Kenpachi for daily events and stuff? In combination with Rukia and Urahara that is.

I just can't decide lol

author: jw4115ta time: 2014-10-20 22:32:03

Edited by jw4115ta at 2014-10-21 03:33

I got Bayakuya just now, along with phisical main yourichi and rukia, is it worth changing him for Kenpachi when I get lvl 90 or keep Baya and get Retsu to replace Rukia?
Already passed 30/30 toushiro tower but still strugling with espada 2

author: Glasglow time: 2014-10-28 02:54:11

Brahmastra replied at 2014-10-9 15:31
Would you say Ikkaku is better than Kenpachi for daily events and stuff? In combination with Rukia ...

Azrial said he is better, but only when you get him the last mod, which takes a few months and you should get Kenpachi and use him anyways until you can replace him with Ishida at 110 i think?
Not to mention that Kepnachi does some insane burst with his skill haha, yesterday a kenpachi crit on my kido main for 150k, i luled and died to one shot having only 100k hp.

author: falcon89 time: 2015-9-23 16:40:07

I'm lvl 89 and I cleared it at lvl 86. All I did was make my main character start off with his skill and hit everyone, and I boosted his critical hit rate and strength and break defense up as high as I could. My main character alone has almost 200k bp

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