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author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 02:58:12     Title: Fury Stone discussion

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-1 14:02

So let's look at fury stones. At the moment, the only way to get them is Level 4 spirit stone packs for 1200 gold (880 VIP 6)

To get 100% fury, it costs around $1,500. (edit - nevermind it costs even more, around $2800, as much as it sounds, it's a small price to pay to never lose and still beat out people who spent double that easily, it's one thing if it's close, it's another when it's just a dominating victory)

100% fury starts allow a person to use their 10th skill round 1, doing massive damage to enemy team and more often than not, result in a auto win, even if the enemy has higher spirit stones, higher level, double/triple BP, and better gear.

Would anyone consider this a little TO OP? I can see it both ways, but I lean more towards it being broken, as it's near impossible to counter. Someone way lower level, in way lesser gear and spirit stones, and 200k BP lower should never, ever have a guernteed victory over the higher player.

This was broken on CN, and they released the black market so you can buy lvl 4 fury stones for cheap, resulting in everyone having 100% fury. Does GoGames need to push the Black Market and get it released so fury starts are available to everyone like on CN? Or should they nerf fury stones period, to stop the non counter play. ATM the only way to counter it is to get it yourself, thus why CN put them for cheap on the black market instead of paying a retarded amount of money to do it.

Not trying to start an argument here, just trying to get a discussion going, to see what everyone thinks, if there needs to be a change I can show this to those who need to see it, and see what they want to do.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 03:28:40

Somehow i agree with you. The dev should also release the black market op in the servers. But price should b not higher than CN server. Everthing is damn expensive here.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2014-10-1 04:03:26

Edited by Brahmastra at 2014-10-1 03:06

The server I play on will probably be merged with a guy that has 100% fury. Now I understand that this game is P2W but even P2W has its limits.

The only way you can counter 100% fury is with stamina and counter stones, level 7-8 or higher.
Since the fury person had to buy xxx packs of level 4 stones all of his characters will most likely be filled with level 8+ stones.
There are VIP9/10 players, that decided to spent their gold differently than buying fury stones, get their 5000$ character wiped of the map like its nothing.

Giving everyone 100% fury isn't a great idea either. It will be a 1hit fest, too boring and unbalanced if you ask me.

Example: I can fill my main up with: agility, strength and fury(100+%) and 1 hit the whole enemy team in 1 turn. I don't even need a vanguard or other characters placed in my formation.
I don't mind that they put in fury stones for extra damage, but 100% fury should NOT be obtainable, IMO.

I somewhat find it funny that the devs and support always talk about zanpakutos and certain characters being too OP to be put in the game at this stage, yet we have this unbeatable setup.
author: TenzinNima    time: 2014-10-1 04:39:54

100% Fury Start Not broken, ending a fight round 1 is legit ........................yes yes yes.....................
author: seraf2    time: 2014-10-1 04:45:23

well i know im a long way off 1st turn fury but still i believe its legit.
Just out of interest how much does it cost to get 100fury via the black market in CN Server?
author: yoeystoned    time: 2014-10-1 06:28:12

IMO it's broken. I'm being run down by a level 66, 193k BP, who has 100% fury. I'm level 83, 290k BP. I mean that's 17 levels and 97k BP difference. Plus I'm Quincy and he's Kido, so there's no way I can match up with his 75% crit rate and kido attacks. On top of that, he doesn't even have skill 10. I'm really looking forward to being utterly crushed when he finally reaches it.

Because of this, yes I'm in on the fury stone nerfing. Of course this wouldn't be fair to those who already have 100% fury and spending that amount of money to get it. Sure it costs $1500 and yes that is a hell lot of money just to obtain 100% fury. But no, they aren't just paying $1500 for 100% fury but also for whole lot of other spirit stones.

Seeing there is no counter to this I'll give a scenario and a question down below.

A person spends $1500 on pure stat stones and no fury included to create stones for each team member. Another person bought the rank 4 spirit stone packs worth $1500 thus obataining 100% fury. Which of them would win in a fight?
author: Kuyabells    time: 2014-10-1 08:21:19

Where i can find that fury stone? @@
author: Robenator    time: 2014-10-1 10:15:20

IMO it's too OP, I think Agility should be "only" the most important rather than Fury.
author: yamivegeta    time: 2014-10-1 10:36:45

Overpowered. I don't mind it in PVE honestly, but it shouldn't work in PvP. It ruins a lot of good aspects of the game's battles.

IMO, release Black Market so everyone can buy for cheaper prices, but limit it's use to PVE only.
author: Robenator    time: 2014-10-1 10:54:54

Where'd you get 1500$ USD?

2x4 fury stones = lvl 5
4x4 fury stones = lvl 6
8x4 fury stones = lvl 7
16x4 fury stones = lvl 8
32x4 fury stones = lvl 9
right?

14080 gold for 1x lvl 8 fury stone.
28160 gold for 1x lvl 9 fury stone.

if it's 2x lvl 9 and 4x lvl 8 fury stones to get 100% this should come to be at a total of 112.640 Gold I think, that means 112.6k Gold

2800 USD is exactly 112k gold so you'll need slightly over 2800 USD, which is something I won't bother with not even in a long process.
author: joshiasi    time: 2014-10-1 11:08:22

It is the price of winning. So basically if you want to be #1 you have to spend a lot of $$$ and have 100% fury.

It is OP but its part of the game mechanics. The game is in the very vulnerable state as it is with regards to server population. Putting in the black market would probably too soon and may cause a major concern to some low VIPs and non paying players.

Right now I feel that those who spent that money to get 100% fury are a handful and would rather see that number stay that way. Game will be less fun with more people having turn 1 kills.
author: lowkick1    time: 2014-10-1 12:06:13

Those fury stones are 100% broken and way too OP. Do they need a nerf? Yes, they ruin the game. Should Gogames nerf them? No.

I don't plan on ever dropping 2.5k usd just to have one of my characters be T1. Yes I understand the existing players rape face with T1 characters, but they did pay a good chunk of change to get there, and as everyone knows, ultimately this is a P2W game with minimal strategies against the high vip's other than becoming one yourself. And as discussed about before, this company looks for whales rather than having everything affordable to the majority of players who would buy gold if prices were lowered.

If there ever was a nerf on the fury stones they should have done it from the start, or reimburse the players who have specifically bought the level 4 stone packs for them, which I think there is a better chance hell freezes over before Gogames returns gold to players for that. So without the reimbursement from Gogames, I don't see how we can nerf the fury stones and make it fair for the players who already spent thousands on getting them. I suppose releasing that black market and having the fury stones cheaper could be one solution, but I don't relish the idea of everyone have T1 characters and have the game lose it's strategic value completely.
I didn't vote for either choice as I dont like the fury stones and T1 win isn't legit, but I don't see how there is a fair nerf for the ppl who have them already. If you come up with a fair solution, I'd be behind it 100%.

author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 12:19:56

I just find it highly annoying when someone can put in the time, gold and all of that to make their entire team balanced, and get countered by one person who simply stacks their main and gives them 100% fury. I've spent $5,000 to even out my team, yet can be stomped and not even have a chance to counter someone who only spent $2500 or so on fury and one stacked main. Game balance is so broken.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 12:41:56

For the black market even if it is not main subject here.

A 100% fury stone shouldn't be allowed even i you have the means. A maximum of 50% fury should be enough or else why bother make a 5 player formation when the soul skills reach lvl 10?

author: doubtyr    time: 2014-10-1 12:54:57

I would say 100% fury starts are annoying, I have yet to encounter them myself in this game. I would say its the lack of events you can get fury stones from and lack of partners or event partners who can possibly help alleviate the issue. Even if they put in the black market i would think it would just be so overpriced only the top spenders would use it anyway.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 13:08:32

100% fury is to OP at the beginning of the game, that's why they haven't released other rare partners and zans, to keep it balanced, they should have done the same with fury stones.
author: Brahmastra    time: 2014-10-1 14:31:27

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-1 12:08
100% fury is to OP at the beginning of the game, that's why they haven't released other rare partner ...

100% fury is just ridiculous anyway, at least when it comes down to PVP.
It will stay broken OP today, tomorrow or a year from now.

The only thing that's reasonable to do is to make it available during the 2nd turn (150fury) or remove it from PVP entirely.

I just can't imagine it being fun to kill or be killed with 5 seconds into the PVP match. It just blows my mind the more I think about it.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 14:59:57

Brahmastra replied at 2014-10-1 13:31
100% fury is just ridiculous anyway, at least when it comes down to PVP.
It will stay broken OP to ...

Even fighting a strong BP player, if you got a respectable VG and line up you aren't going to die first round, and if you manage to get higher speed than them you can atleast fight back and damage them...but not even getting a turn...just about stupid.
author: deathzorkas    time: 2014-10-1 17:33:40

oh my that's alot of money, gold and fury stone O.O
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 19:38:39

[ the reason why bleach was (is) popular because no1 dies in 1 episode...imagine ulquiorra losing to ichigo in just 1 episode   ]  
author: boringstuff    time: 2014-10-1 20:50:38

um yeah i think its really over priced but cause its over powered and it shouldnt be available for everyone
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 21:28:07

boringstuff replied at 2014-10-1 19:50
um yeah i think its really over priced but cause its over powered and it shouldnt be available for e ...

THen it shouldn't be available at all, till alte late game.
author: Robenator    time: 2014-10-1 21:34:37

Remove fury stones from the game and give the people who paid for fury stone, agility and crit stones in return xD
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 21:40:46

Robenator replied at 2014-10-1 20:34
Remove fury stones from the game and give the people who paid for fury stone, agility and crit stone ...

That would work to :p
author: Vaeric333    time: 2014-10-1 22:12:17

I personally think they didn't consider their systems when they put in fury.  No other stat can you hit or exceed 100%, except for fury.  I think like most other stats it should be capped at 90%, thus eliminating turn 1 finishers that are uncounterable.  I mean yes, with partner mods, or lucky extra rounds, your assaulter could skill on turn 1 but only after fury generators use skill on turn 1, which requires a degree of luck(or partner mods).  This would also eliminate the stacking problem.  If you have to stack Kisuke/Rukia and your main to get the right order and the chances to get skills off on turn 1 there's a chance that another player has an opportunity to at least have part of a turn.

I personally think fury stones have purpose, I like having 1 level 5 on each assaulter in pve incase rukia gets an extra round i have a chance to skill on turn 1 if she crits fury gen.  I also like the idea of only enabling during PvE, however that does nerf it a bit harshly.  Some would argue why PvE why not Rei events, which would mean arena/server clash, and I think thats everyone's concern.

All in all, I think the best way to handle it, is like crit, dodge, block and multiple other stats, cap at 90%.  The higher players will be satisfied, no one will have 1 round fights unless something lucky happens, and it still has value.

Just my thoughts.
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2014-10-1 22:18:32

well if they spent that much for it then the reward should be just as = to the amount spent

catch what i mean

but i do agree that starting fury needs a cap limit
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2014-10-1 22:20:59

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-1 13:59
Even fighting a strong BP player, if you got a respectable VG and line up you aren't going to die  ...

you were beaten in arena o.O
aren't you like the best most awesome player on all the servers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 23:19:16

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2014-10-1 21:20
you were beaten in arena o.O
aren't you like the best most awesome player on all the servers!!!!!!! ...

No I wasn't beaten, but I'm only maybe 3rd or 4th strongest Arena wise on all servers. But I know a few high BP players who've gotten crushed by low BP.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 23:20:25

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2014-10-1 21:18
well if they spent that much for it then the reward should be just as = to the amount spent

catch  ...

Yes, but in the relative manner or things they did not spend that much compared to a VIP 10. A 350k BP person should never beat someone who is 550k BP, 100% fury or not. That's called broken :p
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 23:22:56

Vaeric333 replied at 2014-10-1 21:12
I personally think they didn't consider their systems when they put in fury.  No other stat can you  ...

If it's on plain luck that's fine, makes it a bit more interesting, but giving anyone a 100% free win card is absolutely terrible idea.
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2014-10-1 23:23:43

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-1 22:20
Yes, but in the relative manner or things they did not spend that much compared to a VIP 10. A 350 ...

i play on server 25 and there is 75k difference in BP between arena 1 and 2

the first guy uses a 1-1-3

his supports are the stunners yourichi and harr

they only way we can beat him is to have 100% fury and be faster

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but i get what you mean

but some would call it "strategy" #NoGameNoLife anime ~ Team Blank
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-1 23:29:17

KrisKingOfLegend replied at 2014-10-1 22:23
i play on server 25 and there is 75k difference in BP between arena 1 and 2

the first guy uses a ...

Actually to beat him you just need a faster main with 10th skill, it will one shot supports opening 2nd round. Unless they are 100% fury, then there is no way to beat them period. Unless you get 100% fury to and be faster, which forces you to have to drop 3 grand to.

It may be strategy, but that don't make it any less broken. It's like playing League of Legends and starting out level 16 with 6 item build, or starting a new WoW expansion, with gear that will be available at the end of the expansion. It's just crazily unbalanced.
author: azrial    time: 2014-10-2 00:36:24

Some of the CN publisher has excluded the fury stone in black market in recent patch.. and I think GoGames will do it the same way...
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-2 00:49:13

azrial replied at 2014-10-1 23:36
Some of the CN publisher has excluded the fury stone in black market in recent patch.. and I think G ...

Wow, just let people keep the one sided free win card. e_e
author: everflames    time: 2014-10-2 04:06:50

azrial replied at 2014-10-2 05:36
Some of the CN publisher has excluded the fury stone in black market in recent patch.. and I think G ...

That's a stupid idea. All that does it let the people who have 1st turn fury continue to dominate. The only course of action is to actually keep it on the black market.
author: gr8nesh18    time: 2014-10-2 08:23:55

its legit basically its p2w, they have money and choose easiest way, well its hard too at hollow soul map/soul palace etc if dont have fury.

author: rubexcube666    time: 2014-10-2 12:08:16

I kind of wish they changed how the fury stones worked. Like each stone has their % chance to boost your fury by 50% on attack or so.

That way someone with 100 starting fury now, would still only benefit in later rounds.

Example: start at 50, next hit go to 100.

When using that 100, you can start with 100 again if you trigger effect.
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-10-2 15:31:55

what is they remove the fury stones wouldn't that be better?
or make it available at 90% only not 100%
having 100% fury at first round is not logical and not fun even if i had it i wont have fun
author: lordbooo    time: 2014-10-2 22:28:52

A lot of other games like this has the option of 100% fury (most of them are cheaper kinda) so I think it should stay because at higher lvl I dont think main could OHKO anymore. Its a good boost at the beginning for those willing to spend the money on that. Now later on if they add a way to get fury stone without having to spend TONS of gold that would be nice and could even it out more. (ie. Maybe HIGH wave lvl in ryoka could maybe give a basic fury stone)
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-2 22:33:12

lordbooo replied at 2014-10-2 21:28
A lot of other games like this has the option of 100% fury (most of them are cheaper kinda) so I thi ...

I got up to 80% fury off this event alone, little short.
author: lordbooo    time: 2014-10-2 22:57:56

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-2 21:33
I got up to 80% fury off this event alone, little short.

lol i didn't even see the fury stone for this event. I thought with this event you would get 100% fury.
author: Leprosy    time: 2014-10-2 23:18:33

Broken For sure......Takes the fun out of playing honestly...
author: AshidoKanõ    time: 2014-10-2 23:21:25

yamivegeta replied at 2014-10-1 09:36
Overpowered. I don't mind it in PVE honestly, but it shouldn't work in PvP. It ruins a lot of good a ...

I Agree! Release Black market, but limit Fury to pve
author: nieverland    time: 2014-10-3 01:50:31

Well all the time when some ppl got T1 is the same, some ppl complaining till them can get T1, then some ppl get 2 T1 and again but at some point T1 gonna be normal its like cash chars you cant say erase that is too OP because this game is p2w at the end you can call this "spend wisely his money" because they need to spend less money  to beat high Vips and this discussion gonna start again after the update of char upgrades, because more ppl can get T1 Urahara and Rukia so all the team can have T1 with less fury stones so im fine with T1 because at the end they use a lot of money and use his money wisely so you cant complain against someone for being smart "IMO"

btw: this thread is weird because some top players complaining about broken stuff that needs money, when that is our duty (free players or low Vips like me )
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-3 15:28:00

nieverland replied at 2014-10-3 00:50
Well all the time when some ppl got T1 is the same, some ppl complaining till them can get T1, then  ...

i feel you.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-3 15:31:18

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-2 14:31
what is they remove the fury stones wouldn't that be better?
or make it available at 90% only not 10 ...

whats the different between having 90% fury and 0% fury? only stupid people will try to max it out if its capped to 90%
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-10-3 16:18:07

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-3 14:31
whats the different between having 90% fury and 0% fury? only stupid people will try to max it out ...

it will still does more damage if you have more percentage. but for me i wish they remove them all.
and have it like partners only like Rukia and  urahara!
author: nieverland    time: 2014-10-3 17:03:42

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-3 14:31
whats the different between having 90% fury and 0% fury? only stupid people will try to max it out ...

agree with you dont get the point of spending like $2000 dollars to up your dmg maybe 10k w/o T1 fury stones are useless and they dont increase your BP
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-3 17:25:20

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-3 16:35
chamsdar replied at 2014-10-3 15:18
it will still does more damage if you have more percentage. but for me i wish they remove them all ...

fury stones dont give u dmg dude. u mean by purchasing bunch of lvl 4 stones? i think synthesizing lvl 1 stones is much more cheaper
author: chamsdar    time: 2014-10-3 22:06:24

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-3 16:25
fury stones dont give u dmg dude. u mean by purchasing bunch of lvl 4 stones? i think synthesizing  ...

Sorry that is what i meant. its butter than having them alone (easy to get)
but as i said, Fury should only comes from partners!
author: everflames    time: 2014-10-4 05:17:12

chamsdar replied at 2014-10-4 03:06
Sorry that is what i meant. its butter than having them alone (easy to get)
but as i said, Fury sh ...

If something can have money made off it, more than likely it will.
author: wisdomer    time: 2014-10-4 12:36:42

Hi, Maybe it s not the fury stone the problem. In fact (let s say there is no fury stone) if you invest your money in speed and strength you will definitely win in the round 2. more and less the same with the fury stone.

if you want fair fight why not remove the skill 10 in pvp or reduce his rate to 120% max. with that the match can last longer.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-4 13:23:07

wisdomer replied at 2014-10-4 11:36
Hi, Maybe it s not the fury stone the problem. In fact (let s say there is no fury stone) if you inv ...

or remove the donation/top up system :p
author: zjwrckq    time: 2014-10-7 08:18:39

so how many fury stones u need to get 50 fury?
author: x24june    time: 2014-10-9 12:07:12

Edited by x24june at 2014-10-9 11:09

if main char get 50 fury point at beginning, so we need 100% fury to get 100 fury point, right? and what percentage of fury on the fury stones lv 6,7,8 and 9?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-9 12:56:25

x24june replied at 2014-10-9 11:07
if main char get 50 fury point at beginning, so we need 100% fury to get 100 fury point, right? and  ...

9 - 18%
8- 16%
7 - 14%
6- 12%
5 - 10%
4 - 8%

Need 2 9's and 4 lvl 8's. It cost 860 gold at VIP 6 for 1 lvl 4.
author: x24june    time: 2014-10-9 13:32:45

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-9 11:56
9 - 18%
8- 16%
7 - 14%

i see.. nah, if some partner like rukia or urahara with mod (if available), we just need 48% fury, right?
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-9 14:34:38

x24june replied at 2014-10-9 12:32
i see.. nah, if some partner like rukia or urahara with mod (if available), we just need 48% fury, ...

I don't remember, but we won't see partner mods anytime soon.
author: x24june    time: 2014-10-9 17:24:58

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-9 13:34
I don't remember, but we won't see partner mods anytime soon.

as i though eumm, anyway thanks for reply
author: x24june    time: 2014-10-10 11:40:21

Oh i'm forgot this, how many fury which obtained every time we hitting the opponent?
author: deadlyimpact    time: 2014-10-10 11:45:03

x24june replied at 2014-10-10 10:40
Oh i'm forgot this, how many fury which obtained every time we hitting the opponent?

50 with normal hits and 100 with critical hits
author: smurf76    time: 2014-10-15 14:15:48

just remove the fury stone and it be fair play for everyone.
author: smurf76    time: 2014-10-15 14:17:25

btw if u count it this way, of coruse it would cost alot to get the fury.
normally those able to afford to spent will wait for event to get the fury.
its much cheaper that way, but still cost a boom.
author: smurf76    time: 2014-10-15 14:18:31

the best event i saw to get 8 pcs of fury at a cost of around 100 usd plus minus. thats abt 4k gold . the event that u get lvl 6 stones at every 10 steps reach 100 steps get good rewards. i go for 3x lvl 8 stone, not fury thou.
author: smurf76    time: 2014-10-15 14:24:20

yoeystoned replied at 2014-10-1 05:28
IMO it's broken. I'm being run down by a level 66, 193k BP, who has 100% fury. I'm level 83, 290k BP ...

why would a player top up so much on a server he lose out behind so far of lvls in the first place?
why did he not choose a new server to top up instate?
author: yoeystoned    time: 2014-10-24 21:59:57

smurf76 replied at 2014-10-15 13:24
why would a player top up so much on a server he lose out behind so far of lvls in the first place ...

Beats me man. He already quit a long time ago. Stuck at lv72 and I'm now lv89. Such a waste
author: Evild4nte    time: 2014-10-25 03:50:00     Title: RE: Fury Stone discussion

To get 100% fury, it costs around $1,500. (edit - nevermind it costs even more, around $2800, as much as it sounds, it's a small price to pay to never lose and still beat out people who spent double that easily, it's one thing if it's close, it's another when it's just a dominating victory)

100% fury starts allow a person to use their 10th skill round 1, doing massive damage to enemy team and more often than not, result in a auto win, even if the enemy has higher spirit stones, higher level, double/triple BP, and better gear.

Would anyone consider this a little TO OP? I can see it both ways, but I lean more towards it being broken, as it's near impossible to counter. Someone way lower level, in way lesser gear and spirit stones, and 200k BP lower should never, ever have a guernteed victory over the higher player.


When someone is quite lower than you are, he wont beat u just by fury stones on prot, coz ur prot + vanguard and maybe ur 2nd assaulter will tank his furyskill and you can crash him in the 2nd round.
You can test this by fighting vs people with full fury and many lv 10 stones who have quitted. When u gets more and more bp u will beat him somedays, even if he has T1 fury and better overall stones.

I think the fury stones are not the problem, the problem is, that the dmg in pvp is not balanced. The overall pvp dmgoutput needs a big nerf, so that a prot cannot oneshot a whole crew.
The relation btw atk and def is just broken.
If the pvp dmg would be slower, tactics would come to play much better, so u could look how to handle with different opponents and can beat stronger people with a certain setup too.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-25 04:03:25

Evild4nte replied at 2014-10-25 02:50
When someone is quite lower than you are, he wont beat u just by fury stones on prot, coz ur prot  ...

I agree, there needs to be more tactics. There is no tactics vs an active 100% fury user unless you do it yourself.

They need to nerf lvl 10 skill dmg. By over half.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-25 12:02:30



hrmmmm ... if i can restart back the game... the amount i spend i ll hav 100% fury... n dun care about other stuffs...

but i cant... so i got to spend again of wat i ve spent... n hope to get 100% fury... but it wont be so soon...

i hope theres a better way to beat this 100% fury thingy...

maybe some partners or zank will do the trick.. but hav yet to be found...

author: ruedia    time: 2014-10-27 21:42:00

Would have disagree CN has better gold Price and US aka NA along EU have higher gold price. The only way get fury stones is thru Events and LVL 4 Spirit Stone Package. Now if you are only talking CN then I would agree but you say altogether. I say if you want to Nerf Fury Stones then Nerf them all. Then you have fair fight if you want a fair fight. When is it every a fair fight I mean I can stand toe to toe with 200k BP at times I'm only at 158k BP. So you want make fair fight then I say make it where only Support can only use Fury Stones. That be fair fight then to a point lol. The main Topic should be compare with CN and NA/EU what different they have. Not always what CN has when we NA/EU don't have it.
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-27 22:38:34

ruedia replied at 2014-10-27 20:42
Would have disagree CN has better gold Price and US aka NA along EU have higher gold price. The only ...

Yeah but you can't stand up to someone who is 200k BP with 100% fury 10th skill main at 158k BP. Or 400k BP for that matter.

It's just a cheap win. I'm a few stones from 100% fury myself, so they might beat me for now, but I'll beat them back in a few weeks.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-28 00:03:54

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-27 21:38
Yeah but you can't stand up to someone who is 200k BP with 100% fury 10th skill main at 158k BP. O ...



now thts the spirit...  go go go riku...

i ll be 100% fury too wit a lil bit more time needed n some realli good events...

wat to do... spend on the wrong shit at the start of the game... n din know tht 100% fury is good...

author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 00:23:49

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-27 23:03
now thts the spirit...  go go go riku...

i ll be 100% fury too wit a lil bit more time needed n ...

I knew it was, but I chose to make my team more balanced, with strong main and strong VG as well. With a little work, I know eventoully I can counter a T1 user.
author: mazukazaru    time: 2014-10-28 04:20:40

Fury stones are broken only problem is there pretty expensive that is why it's pay to win
author: mazukazaru    time: 2014-10-28 04:23:54

only way to counter fury stones is with Harribel and Yuroichi by having them also use Fury stones and have higher speed than your opponent
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 04:34:20

mazukazaru replied at 2014-10-28 03:23
only way to counter fury stones is with Harribel and Yuroichi by having them also use Fury stones an ...

Eh, I got my ways to counter them without it.
author: mazukazaru    time: 2014-10-28 04:45:23

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-28 11:34
Eh, I got my ways to counter them without it.

Aw do tell i'm currently rank 2 in arena but i would love any advice i can get
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-28 05:03:45

mazukazaru replied at 2014-10-28 03:45
Aw do tell i'm currently rank 2 in arena but i would love any advice i can get

My team is balanced. My main is stacked, and my VG is one of the tankiest in NA/EU. They both can survive a round 1 fury user. My Ikkaku may can survive. Supports could probaly survive a 100% fury kido user as well.

Anyways, I have one of the highest atk's in NA if not the highest, as well as I'm the fastest main in NA at 113k speed. He will get his 10th skill off, Toshiro can get his fury atk off as well, which cuts their dmg 25% + my zan's 10% damage reduction, so basically that's 35% of their damage, with my defenses being so high, they won't scratch me after round 1. Round 2 I'd one shot their team, leaving the main, maybe if they are stacked, I'd kill them in the 3rd round going first.

When I get masked ichigo, and his aid skill, will cut everyone's dmg. if I stick with Toshiro, and get his 6th ability, that's a 30% stun chance on anyone who attacks him as well. I think a few more days to a week will set me up pretty good. It might not be 100%  for sure win but it'll be close.

And if not...well, I'll be 100% fury soon enough, almost there. Having the fastest main in NA, and with my damage...probably won't lose to much
author: mazukazaru    time: 2014-10-28 05:09:02

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-28 12:03
My team is balanced. My main is stacked, and my VG is one of the tankiest in NA/EU. They both can  ...

Nice, sounds like you have this in the bag our server is not that high on battle powers yet highest one is 310k so we are not at your level just yet
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-30 10:52:57



hrmmm my version of countering 100% fury is slightly different i guess...

but still wit tank like Stark n hav to make him realli buff...

but i prefer to use Gin n probably Kisuke... still testin... speed is still the key... not sure how high my agi can go...

coz i haven tested it...
author: King_Akaba    time: 2014-10-31 04:25:45

Edited by King_Akaba at 2014-10-31 04:28

Black market needs to be released here before too many people have bought 100 fury from lvl 4 packs and start complaining how its not fair that they paid  $2800 to get it and then all of the sudden its the same price as lvl 1 stones.
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-31 10:14:06

King_Akaba replied at 2014-10-31 03:25
Black market needs to be released here before too many people have bought 100 fury from lvl 4 packs  ...


totally agree... xixixi...

hopes it gets release fast...

then a lot of ppl will hav them... n then it will be down to strats of 100% fury vs 100% fury

or who has more of it...
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-10-31 10:55:17

Edited by [email protected] at 2014-10-31 16:55

the only way i can see fury being fixed is by lowering how you obtain it. Right now most player do 1 hit then have fury next turn, so if you lower how fast fury builds then there maybe be a fighting chance against it. So say each round you only gain 20 percent fury and instead of 50 and buy adding fury stones so say lvl 4 which gives 8 percent initial start have it so that it gives 8 percent of 20 per round to fury so first round you would be at 21-26 or so forth depending on lvl or how many stones you have. But now doing this you get into game machanics  since now you would have to lower damage all round to allow for fury to build and actually be used for all partners if not vanguards would by dead before healers get to them in some cases even attackers. the only other option is they have to lower how much damage the finale skill can do. Because yes i agree if you could enter a battle and the only person you need is your main character and 100 percent fury, no partners and wipe out an entire team before they swing i say its way over powered and should be adressed or you will eventually lose alot of your players which in turn means your income because no one wants to play a game that you can never get to the top even by spending a shit load of cash
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-10-31 12:36:18

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-31 09:55
the only way i can see fury being fixed is by lowering how you obtain it. Right now must player do 1 ...


if thts the case...

f2p r even more affected... even more harder for f2p

vips will just buy those stones n still get 100% fury ...
author: KHONHAX    time: 2014-11-1 06:04:47

How much % is a lv12 fury stone?   Just thinking if you have 6 x lv12 fury stones, you would do extra damage for all the fury you got over 100.   Now thats gona be fun xD
author: Brahmastra    time: 2014-11-1 06:07:28

PAOFUI replied at 2014-10-31 09:14
totally agree... xixixi...

hopes it gets release fast...

PVP is gonna be lame as hell though.
Unless people actually like 1 round pvp matches.. lel
author: selene0818    time: 2014-11-1 06:48:00

KHONHAX replied at 2014-11-1 05:04
How much % is a lv12 fury stone?   Just thinking if you have 6 x lv12 fury stones, you would do extr ...

Well lvl 11 is 22% from what I've seen...not sure what a 12 is... haven't seen one yet
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-1 07:42:01

Brahmastra replied at 2014-11-1 05:07
PVP is gonna be lame as hell though.
Unless people actually like 1 round pvp matches.. lel


this halloween event is awesome...

i am at 80% now...

n its much cheaper to get the stones now i think...
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2014-11-1 17:48:05

[email protected] replied at 2014-10-28 04:03
My team is balanced. My main is stacked, and my VG is one of the tankiest in NA/EU. They both can  ...

so what if you had 100% fury on tosen ~ that would be great against another person with 100% fury if you make tosen faster he will nerf the enemy by 50%

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or give Sui feng 100% fury

next turn you screw the person over

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or give them both 100% fury or all 3 (including your main) but that amount of money is just crazy

EDIT:

why'd make the word fury red????
author: LadyKyojin    time: 2014-11-14 16:03:35

selene0818 replied at 2014-11-1 05:48
Well lvl 11 is 22% from what I've seen...not sure what a 12 is... haven't seen one yet

its is 24% for level 12 its goes up by 2% each lvl, lucky i never purchased the mega stone pack, i got mine from events and collected them
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-15 02:27:29

doubt its gona change.. iv played a naruto game just like this few yrs back and its the same problem.. 1st turn kill with 100% fury.. so for my 10 cent i doubt the dev will ever change that fury stuff... only excuse i can think they will say.. if they can do that why cant you? it is a p2w game .. they dont give crap about our happiness.. all they care about is making money.. and they have already done that seeing how much people have paid for this game already.. if this game dies they can just toss it and get another generic browser game..
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-15 05:12:28


lol... u might not get killed on first round even vs a full fury opponent...

theres alwiz ways around it... i bet many ppl can think of how ...

n if u say u need to spend more money to get fury... there r alwiz cheaper ways to get fury even witout black market...

n its not impossible for someone witout fury to win a fury player too...  but its much harder... n it can be done...

even winning the so called God of Quincy is possible... n dun need to spend as much as he does...

author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-22 20:41:29

WE really need that black market so soon i hope they will fix this bugged %100 fury start or allow everyone easly to start that %100 fury :S
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-22 21:02:13

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-22 19:41
WE really need that black market so soon i hope they will fix this bugged %100 fury start or allow e ...

I think the ultimate fix would be allow us to refine fury into equipment, say a max of 4 or 5 fury per piece, but it's at a 10% chance to get or so
author: KrisKingOfLegend    time: 2014-11-22 21:10:25

i think it should be capped off

at most i think it should be 80% or 90%
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-22 22:39:21

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-22 20:02
I think the ultimate fix would be allow us to refine fury into equipment, say a max of 4 or 5 fury ...



at the moment now its onli for the weapon...

n dang... it took me whole damm lot of stars... just to get tht 4 fury on my weapon...

dafuq... its killin me...

i think buyin it would be good... coz its so hard to get green enchant stones...

zzzz
author: nieverland    time: 2014-11-22 22:48:17

PAOFUI replied at 2014-11-22 21:39
at the moment now its onli for the weapon...

n dang... it took me whole damm lot of stars... j ...

lol and i skip twice psychic because tried to get pierce ..........................
author: [email protected]    time: 2014-11-22 22:50:22

<1>.....Tenth skill is too op - should drop down the damage to 1/2 or 1/3 in turn would cause less headache on fury atks
<2>.... only supt should be allowed 100 fury - assulters and vg caped at 80 or 90
<3>....partners not mains need mods to boost there stats
<3>... defense stats of need boosted on hogu equipemnt (atk is easier to obtain then defnse)
..........defnse boost that lowers atk or atk boost that lowers defense ( like quincy blut viene artery)
..........defense boost lower speed
<4>...black market for rage gems

as is right now vrs rage..... partners r worthless might as well just be main and vg vrs main and vg

and as for aoe atks look at byaku and bargain they dont produce high damage as tenth main would....
so lower the main atk to allow for more strategy

right now its Speed Speed Speed...... Rage.... tenth....

as for me i carry a heavy armoured vg and seems to be only way i can even attempt to fight 100 rage
since main is kido im pretty done there on losing main if hit first
vg zan helps me do some serous damage...
in two days will see what stark can do if he can at least hold up a bit...

but yes rage is op....it unbalances the game considerably
author: PAOFUI    time: 2014-11-22 22:55:26

nieverland replied at 2014-11-22 21:48
lol and i skip twice psychic because tried to get pierce ..........................


lol i did tht b4... long time ago... same thing wit u ...

well when u dun wan them... they ll come... when u r lookin for them... they wont come...

get wat i mean...
author: nieverland    time: 2014-11-22 23:45:33

[email protected] replied at 2014-11-22 21:50
.....Tenth skill is too op - should drop down the damage to 1/2 or 1/3 in turn would cause less head ...

well agree that att/def diference is really high, they can easy balance the game boosting 30 or 40% def that way you gonna need all the team to win and battles last longer



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